A scandalous Op-Ed published in the New York Times has revealed a growing division in evangelical churches about the presidential candidacy of Donald Trump.
Trump’s poll numbers continue to surge and he’s drawing heavy support from evangelical voters. But a leader of the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC), which claims to represent 15 million members, is demanding his members immediately stop supporting Trump.
Russell Moore, the president of the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission of the SBC, issues a scathing review of Trump in the article. He claimed that Trump’s attitude toward women was that of a “Bronze Age warlord” and that to support Trump, evangelicals must “repudiate everything they believe.”
Moore goes on to make a number of accusations about the GOP front runner: He hints that Trump could be secretly pro-choice, says he made his fortune off “a moral vice and an economic swindle that oppresses the poorest and most desperate,” and says evangelicals and other social conservatives who support Trump are illogical.
It’s no secret that many Christian leaders haven’t been thrilled by the prospect of a Trump candidacy — but could this “holy war” of sorts begin to spread to other denominations? In this fractious and hotly contested 2016 presidential election, this may only be the beginning. And should other religious leaders begin coming out against Trump, it could seriously shake up the future of the GOP race.
You can read the controversial Op-Ed piece on the New York Times web site
That’s the reason I left Southern Baptist church years ago. If Mr. Moore seems to be playing God or at least standing in for Him. True Christians have a personal relationship with God because of Christ and we answer to God. Mr. Moore should be fasting and praying for those SBC members; more importantly fasting and prostrating himself before God crying out for forgiveness. It is the Church’s job to spread the news of Jesus Christ, not tell people how they should think, feel, believe and live. The government is doing a pretty good job of doing that already.
I only hope readers don’t think all Christians are like this man. He is judging and that’s God’s job.
Very true
He can’t make anyone do anything.
Russell Moore must consider a name change: Russell LESS. He does not know what dire situation the world is, and WHO the GANGSTERS are who triggered these terrible situations. If he IS REPRESENTING “THE” Creator he would have done his meditations, organize “Power Prayer Groups” and trust the LORD to handle DIVINELY where this Nation is meant to go. NOT arouse millions of people into hatred by his erroneous remarks. Nowhere in the Bible are we instructed to use our head. Many times the Master Jesus reminded us to “See, feel and think with your HEART” So, if he wants to lead the flock: ” trust the process he is entrusted with and BE a representative of the Christ consciousness”
That’s all that is required from him. Don’t muddle the waters or you will drown in them. It’s NOT your job!
Be at PEACE, and you will spread it through your demeanor. Only then will you EARN the name Russell Moore.
Peace be with all of us
The Holy Bible says ” The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it? Jeremiah 17:9
It never says to lead with your heart. Many people are adrift in life because their hearts are changing. God’s holy truths never change.
wonderful-wonderful Amen
I have never heard of this buzzard.. He just have no idea what is happening in the world.. OH wait, I bet I know whom he voted for in the last election
Just mention the word ” CONTROL ” and you’ll see how they cringe, in this case it’s very true
Your wrong sir! The Pastor need to address the congregations on political matters as well. And they haven’t! This why you have a very wrong opinion on the matter as many others so called christians. This is the reason we christians are being tossed out of every aspects on daily life today! He”s right there on the point and if all christians start to be vocal on our rights and make our weight be felt on economical matters we will see those discriminations against us being stopped dead.
Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.
I guess you haven’t heard of Jesus having an army to fight the Antichrist Gov. are you going to be in Jesus’s army? The antichrist gov. is our US gov. run by the greedy company’s that are destroying our world
I ask people What caused this economic depression? no one can tell me, well do you know? high gas prices did, when the price of gas goes up so does the price of everything else, and the only thing that will bring us out of this depression is free energy , so force the auto company’s to make only water to hydrogen cars and trucks and conversion kits to change the pieces of junk fuel injected, and diesel trucks to run on hydrogen with switches to shut off the fuel injectors, and the fuel pump, don’t do this now and the economy will collapse soon, when our bought and payed capitalist Gov. goes bankrupt Tell every one not to buy a new car, and tell them to tell others, tell them they must do both. Don’t buy a new car, or truck.,
Cancer society’s are not doing any research, because they found cures for cancer way back in the 1930’s, and you won’t be giving them any money if they come out with a cure, they are the biggest mass murders, and you are paying them to kill you with chemo, and surgery, they can’t make any money curing you, catch 22, the best cure for cancer is in a book Encyclopedia of healing Juices, by John Heinerman, page 141 under Grape/ raisin juice, a man diagnosed with cancer didn’t do the murdering chemo, he buckled down and eat his fruits and vegetables, and killed all of his cancer, red fruits and vegetables, have a substance called lycopene that will kill cancer, and keep you from getting cancer, pore nutrient is what causes cancer, and a host of other illnesses so eat your fruits and vegetables, with your meat. a good balanced diet.
#1 cause of Alzheimer’s is aluminum poisoning, take all cookware to recycling, and don’t buy anything in aluminum cans, spread the word to every one, when we stop buying they will have to make iron cans, and cookware, so spread the word and tell those you tell to spread the word also. #2 cause is iodine deficiency, that cause’s bipolar, schizophrenia, depression, suicides, eat fish, and yogurt 2 to 3 times a week spacing them out every 2 to 3 days, because iodine will be depleted out of your body in 2 to 3 days
The flu shots have been tested out to have 25 mg of mercury per shot, they tested to have formaldehyde, ethylene glycol ( anti freeze ) and aluminum the #1cause of Alzheimer’s, ADD and ADHD, . to give you a strong immune system from the flu, colds, and a host of other germs, and bacteria, you want to get Garlic, powder, and or minced and season with a little almost every day, all nutrients will be depleted out of your body in two to three days so you need a little almost every day, a garlic container should last a person 5 to 6 months.
Diabetes is one of the biggest medical scams, it can be cured with a little cinnamon almost every day, like iodine it will be depleted in 2 to 3 days, so a little almost every other day will keep your blood sugar level normal .
You are 100% right and I hope many people read your comment. I’m looking for a holistic doctor in my area to help me free my self of the prescribed medication I’m taking now….my conventional doctor told me that I’ll need it for life. Thank you for your message.
Bryce, while I agree with most of what you say you are completely lost on the cause of this depression. Greedy, evil men on wall street conspired to rob the worlds people of their security and wealth. Morgan Stanley, Goldman Sachs and a host of other paid Standard and Poors along with other rating companies to rate junk investment vehicles, the banks and investment firms had created, as AAA securities. The worlds retirement funds and banks investors who weren’t in on the scam ate it up. When it failed as planned it turns out these crooks had insured and re-insured themselves against loss. This led to AIG and other companies destruction. Hank Paulson, who came to the rescue supposedly, was predetermined to be there with a band aid plan insuring the continuation of what would appear to be normal recession recovery while they were completing their theft. Oil costs are being ignored by the companies as they charge what they like and not what the normal profit has been for gasoline. Historically speaking when oil is at $40 a barrel gas has been $1.60 on average. As for the aluminum, flu shots, MMR shots and natural cures you are spot on. Let nobody think this depression wasn’t engineered by mathematicians hired by Criminal investment firms to destroy the worlds middle class. There is a very good documentary on television right now that names names, gives the structure of the scam and the numbers. I have read several books on the matter. Some cover up lies and 90% truth. The documentary is truth.
I believe you all are right on point. GOD BLESS.
Any church that promotes or dissuades voters from voting for a candidate or specific bill is violating the tax codes that allow them tax free status. The Catholic Church NEVER speaks out against any particular candidate or law for this very reason. They preach about ISSUES.
You are entirely correct. Southern Baptist and other so called “liberty” defenders, must have their 501c3 status revoked when entering the political arena on a public level.
Please do not judge all those 15 million SB people by what their leader says…they own him no obeisance.
So politics is not an issue?
Ever read the Constitution? Or even know what it is? Or of its existence?
The gutless pastors who are soooo afraid that they might offend somebody are the reason the country is in such a mess.
Nobody wants to hear the truth, and if somebody has the temerity to stand up and tell the truth everybody wants to bury them.
In your world the government is god. So, Bush was your deity and now it is that kenyan in the WH. Who will tell you how to live next? Hillary or Trump….And since you worship govenment, will you obey?
BTW, haven’t read the fellow’s piece. And I’m not for Trump. But I will defend his right to say his piece and thank God that he has the guts to tell it to everyone.
Had the church had the guts to stand up and say something in the past perhaps we wouldn’t have the extension of the Nazi practice of experimenting on humans and trafficking in human body parts through that curse called planned parenthood.
But then maybe you support the murdering of children and the cannibalization of their bodies.
Wilson, don’t worry so much about politics, no matter what the circumstances, he should stick to what he knows best, do not influence people’s minds, that is not the way Christ did his thing. Chritianity as you know it Wilson will disappear years from now and you will be forced to believe as a Muslim, wait and see, it’s already spread to many parts of the world, when the scriptures say multiply, Muslims are doing so in droves. Christianity will become a faded religion and disappear. You can not live in the biblical old age theories, forget about Jesus, he has done his job, stop living in the past, that’s ancient history, go forward and live free from religions that dictate to what you should eat as well. This is nonsense, he should stick to what he knows best and it’s not politics!!
And what’s the litmus test to support a candidate? What comes out of the mouth are words, none of these pastors/men know what is truly in their hearts. I guess they can use assess their holy appearance, their ability to name biblical books and authors, scripture memorization and recital, how many cute kids they have and how much they profess the love of their spouses, their pro-life stance, how much they tithe…
Get real, “News Flash”, Jesus isn’t running for office and none of these religious zealots have the right to manipulate church member’s decisions. The fact that the Southern Baptist call themselves an organization screams LOBBYIST to me!
Did the leadership of this church body issued the same advise with regards to Mr. Obama or Hillary?
Mr. Baird, You are the one that is wrong. You and Mr. Moore have your heads so far up your respective “you know whats” that the lack of oxygen has given you brain damage. What do you want? More of the same political hacks that have put our once great country in the terrible condition that exists today. Donald Trump at least is not part of that. Let’s give him a chance before sending him packing. We gave Obama a chance (just because he was black) and look what he did. There is no way that Trump can do any worse, and I for one, believe he will be far more successful than any President since Reagan (and maybe back to Truman).
Mr. Moore should remember that “judgment begins in the Church”.
MOORE doesn’t even have the intelligence or commonsense to speak for himself, HOW DARE he tell others what to do!!!!!!! Spew your IGNORANCE to others of your ILK who are STUPID enough to follow Anti Christians like you MOORE!!! DESPICABLE!!!!
Back in the day, (whenever that was), it was popular for the “Rev” in the black church to endorse a
candidate, and for the block vote to then follow. Many times, we would “entertain” the Rev in exchange
for his/her support, it was the system.
Times have changed, or not? What was done then was wrong, and to resort back to that era is a bit
scary.
I, for one, do not want anyone to tell me how to vote, we have a independent spirit, and the right to
make our own decisions.
I must go on record saying he is wrong.
Thank you, I feel the same way.
Beverly,
You are absolutely right regarding the role of pastoral leadership, BUT, it is the responsibility of the believers to apply what they have learned and what they believe to everything in life–even what presidential candidates are all about. How does Trump measure up to God’s Word.
Trump seems to have more common sense than any body in the white house. The only way things could get worse is to elect another pol-i- ti -sion.
Very true
I agree
I had to leave the S B C because the leadership tried to pass judgment on anyone who disagreed.
Good for you and God bess you. I am shocked at all the attacks against Trump, who is the only leader who is not affected by political correctness and who will restsore America to its judeo-Christian foundation; and will not be deterred even by people who do not show God’s love but really promote satanic and anti–biblical doctrines. Let us play for Trump for victory and success, so that he will be able to make America great again, judge eve– a Jerusalem born jew for whom Jesus is Lord.
Russell Moore needs to pull his head out of Obammy’s Cranny. Right now isn’t the time for anyone to get picky or particular. The country is hanging like a loose tooth in the mouth of a homeless guy and this jerk Russell Moore is getting hung up of bullcrap issues.
Trump is not Jesus – NOT CANDIDATE IS. But Trump is the closest thing we have to a real leader that can possibly save what little is left our this country.
Isn’t the Southern Baptist Convention one of the religions that has bowed before the liberal, progressive, feel good liberals? If you have a religious belief that’s all you need. You do not need a big fancy church building. You do not need some slick talking charlatan in their $2000.00 suits to tell you how you should feel say or do. All these silver tongued devils are in it for the money and life style they get out of it. They make me sick. You can get to Heaven without paying homage to some man who tries to make you believe he/she knows the answers.
Amen!!!!
Donald Trump to Mr. Moore……
YOU’RE FIRED!!!!!
I agree. This man should be spreading the Good News of Jesus Christ, not getting his nose into politics. The Church needs to talk about issue that violate the teachings of the Bible, not pretend to know what is on the mind of Donald Trump.
Pat R. I agree with you. I left the Southern Baptist Church for the very same reasons over 30 years ago. I am a true believer in God, Jesus Christ, and The Holy Spirit, but refuse to be associated with ANY organized religion. The manipulations, lies and hypocrisies are too much for me to handle. I wish you well, Pat R. Take Care And God Bless.
Moore needs to leave a person’s preference as to he votes for to the voter. His preference or hang-ups are his own. We need a leader in the White House that can get this country back on the right track, instead of trying to destroy it.
Well said. Our Christian leaders are not sounding like Christians, but like someone who expects to be here for a long time.
As you can see, he went to the NY Times to publish his article, the left wing, anti-Life, pro Atheist, anti-God, Anti-American and anti-America NY Times. That says it all. He is far from a Christian.
Is he and his church paying taxes?
He does not have the right to tell anyone who they should support or vote for.
JUST BECAUSE ONE LIBERAL MEMBER OF A LARGE CONSERVATIVE CHURCH GROUP SPEWS THIS SORT OF NONSENSE DOES NOT MEAN THE ENTIRE GROUP BELIEVES IT OR WILL FOLLOW SUIT!!
In Texas we don’t have gambling because of the Souther Baptist strong hold, I was confused as to why he has SB followers. Hypocrites you think.
Religious leaders need to spread the good news about Jesus and salvation and stay out of politics. Jesus said, “Render unto Cesar what is Cesar and to God what is God’s.”
The Lord deserves our devotion. Our politicians are place there by God.
We should pray for them that they may have His wisdom in governing us.
Stay out of politics evangelical leaders except to advocate that we pray for them.
“The Lord deserves our devotion. Our politicians are place there by God.”
There is no reason a person cannot be devoted the the Lord and still vote. By voting we take part in the process of establishing leadership, the Lord may very well place them into office through our votes thus we serve Him. How does God put people into government excepting through the people in our nation which is a democratic republic. He uses His people to accomplish His purposes. Have you ever met the Lord at the poles ? He does not perform a Theophany every voting season you know,or dont you?
Stay out of politic’s so then NOT so bright individuals can and have perverted the Science, Art of Governing ?—-Since in many ways ancient weapons are being sharpened by our adversaries, and nearly the same
old battles ARE to be re-fought. Thus only the heathen formerly objected to the Christian religion, that
they SHOULD NOT be led away from the ancient and accustomed rites of their divinities, but now the
most INIQUITOUS endeavour of wicked men contend that THEY SHOULD eradicate from Christian people
ALL divine and MOST necessary teaching connected with Our holy faith, and that THEY MAY USE them
WORSE THAN the heathen, and MAY INVOLVE them in the greatest misery, namely, the subversion and
CONTEMPT of all faith and religion. Of which impure plague, than which none is more detestable,
those were the founders who attributed to man that by the LIGHT of REASON each one could know
and judge concerning doctrine divinely revealed by virtue of his own reason and judgment, and that
there was no necessity to submit to the authority of the Church and the Roman Pontiff, whose sole
right it is, by divine command and appointment to be the guardian of that doctrine, to hand it on
and to judge truly concerning it.
Pope Leo XIII
The petrodollars Muslims begin the slanderous campaign ……, The New York Times should ask to his readers: “Do you want another president pro-Islam (..Obama …. ) or a president who defends the values Western freedom ?? “
HOW DARE HE MAKE ANY DEMANDS! FREE SPEECH! Despite Obama, this somewhat remains a free country and this no-named-so-called “leader of the SBC” DEMANDS his “15 million” people not support Donald Trump – THAT IS LUDICROUS! They do NOT have to support his view nor do they have to kowtow to his “demands”. I left the SBC nearly 30 years ago because of this, and all this tells me is THAT WAS A GREAT DECISION THEN! What a lot of nerve!
how dare anyone tell someone they cant vote for who they want and who might they want them to vote for anyway ????????another Obama?
I think most of these “so called” leaders are like the present pope, IE: ‘communists’.
I was kicked out of a church for QUOTING a scripture in the Bible. Let no man teach you, the Holy Spirit will lead you unto all truth and righteousness. These mega preachers need to Go!
you young lady are 2000% right
In this country you have a separation of church and state. The church should stay out of politics or start paying taxes. Their tax status can be revoked .
Yeah, the ‘ole harlot’ still trying to ply her ‘goods’. The ‘beast’ has tired of her and the meddlings of the unholy whore.
(Rev 17 and 18) She ‘rides’ only a short while yet.
He represents nobody! Who does this dip stick want, Jeb Bush? And what would you expect from the New York Times? What other so called religious leaders are trying to bring Trump down? The article does not say, and implies there are many out there when in fact, this is the first I have heard of it! This is just hype, and nobody will pay any attention to what this guy Moore has to say.
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GO TRUMP!
What’s wrong with this “so called” religious leader. Does he not see what is happening to our great country? What does he want, what we’ve been getting? The present administration, including the lying Hillary,the left-wingers, are Hell-Bent on destroying our freedoms. I am a Christian, and since Barack has been in there he has done absolutely nothing to help our country be one. He has torn down what it took 100 years to build. At least Trump is not afraid to speak up about what and who is wrong for our country. We need someone to stand up against the thieving, lying politicians that have filled the White-house. One problem I see, is there are supposed to be an overwhelming per-cent of Christians in the United States, how did we ever put someone in office with the beliefs that our present administration have, not once, but twice, what is wrong with people? Wake up all you Christians!
Hello, Brothers and Sisters,
I am new here, just signed up today. I am a tongue-speaking / praying, baptized in the Spirit (and water, as an adult), meditating, Bible reading, Scripture quoting, church going, card carrying Christian. Actually, I’m not sure about the card-carrying part, I may have misplaced it. 😉
On a more serious note, all or most of what you have posted sounds like something I’ve not heard of in most churches I have attended in my life. To be honest, I’m hearing something no one should ever hear from true Christians. Do some of you remember the old song, “They’ll Know We are Christians by Our Love”? Well, love is not what I see or hear in your posts today. I see, hear, and feel pride, bitterness, anger, judgement, self-righteousness, . . . and more.
One day I asked Jesus when He would come back for us, His Bride, His Church. His answer was shocking. He said He didn’t know when He would be able to come back to claim His Bride (the Church). He was very sad when I asked why it was that He could not come back and take His Bride home with Him. His answer broke my heart. He
told me He could not come back for His Bride because He no longer recognizes her.
The Horn News, what a breath of fresh air, thank you!
What’s happening here is much more than a political problem. It is a spiritual problem. This country was founded on Jude’o/Christian principles. The Jews and the Christians are protected by our God Jehovah.
However this country passed a law in 1973 making it legal for man to go inside a woman’s womb, and kill her child simply because its birth would be inconvenient.
Homosexuals began to flaunt their sin out in the open, even having parades celebrating their shame, eventually our states began to pass laws making gay marriage legal. Prayer was slowly and methodically outlawed in public schools, and plaques and monuments with the 10 commandments, and nativity scenes, suddenly became offensive to many, and were ordered removed. Even bringing a bible to school became frowned upon. Pornography became common and very available. In essence our country turned its back on God, and did those things which provoke him to anger.
There is a scary example of this in the bible, with the Jews in Jerusalem, whose behavior mimicked that of modern day America. God who is very patient and merciful sent them Jeremiah to warn them of what would befall them if they didn’t repent and turn from their wickedness. Jeremiah prophesied for years not days, which shows even more God’s merciful nature, however the Jews for the most part did not repent, or change their behavior, and God sent the Babylonians against them, who burned the city, and took most of its habitat’s captive.
Their king was captured trying to escape the judgment of God, and his sons were slaughtered in front of him, before king Nebuchadnezzar put out his eyes. There are many arrogant people in America who think something like this could never happen to us, but keep in mind it happened to the Jews, and they are the apple of God’s eye.
Do not be deceived God is not mocked; a man will reap as he sows. Is anyone surprised that our “king” Mr. Obama appears to be inherently evil, and bent on destroying America? Or that he embraces Islam, a hateful, vile religion, and speaks out openly against Christians’?
And that he actually helped Iran acquire a nuclear weapon, and billions of dollars, at the same time they were chanting in the streets death to Israel, death to the USA?
All very true and listen up everyone because we are not beyond being chastised and judged by God– due to our stinking sins and disrespect of His Word and Ways–. He is the Creator and has the right to tell us how to live, in order to give us a good life. But if we flip God off and ignore His eternal doctrines, as written in the King James or Geneva Bible, we do so at to our peril.
Pastoral incompetence. Whomever it takes to restore America is what counts!. The mess we are in now will take a real leader to accomplish it.
Pastoral incompetence! Whomever it is ,we need a leader to restore AMERICA now!!
the bible-thumping blowhard needs to keep his butt in the pulpit and stick to the bible not politics.. there is enough hot air without him adding to it….
The separation of church and state doesn’t mean the church stay out of politics. It meant and still means that the government cannot interfere with the church and it’s business. People get educated for crying out loud. God’s word says “My people perish for the lack of knowledge”, that means scripturally as well as what’s going on around you. Pastors can educate and inform their congregation of facts of a prospective candidates position on an issue that may be contrary to the Bible and it’s teaching but does not allow them to dictate a persons choice. That issue is between God and that individual. It would be good to have a true, born again Christian in the office of the president in America, but that is not the final consideration. No man, whomever, is perfect. Especially in politics. There is, unfortunately, always compromise. Consider all, then make your best choice according to your convictions and God’s leading.
Religious beliefs are different from conscious thought..Every person should follow their own heart,.I believe that Donald Trump is a good man I will vote for him.
While I view Trump’s actions and words as narcistici, egotistical, and immature, I find it odd that a religious leader would advise his people on how to vote. If he feels the need to preach about politics, then he should just present the facts. Do his research and share it, without comment on whether it is right or wrong. Just throw out questions if one wants to get people to think about a particular action. Parishioners know their own mind and they are not dumb.
While I view Trump’s actions and words as narcistici, egotistical, and immature, I find it odd that a religious leader would advise his people on how to vote. If he feels the need to preach about politics, then he should just present the facts. Do his research and share it, without comment on whether it is right or wrong. Just throw out questions if one wants to get people to think about a particular action. Parishioners know their own mind and they are not dumb.
Sadly the SB leader is wrong for “demanding” that no one vote for Trump. He should have pointed out what is wrong with Trump and asked his people to prayerfully consider their decisions. Trump’s ideas as to returning America to good values and being against politicians is what is attracting Americans to him. However, his rhetoric is harmful and I question his morals. How will our allies (and enemies) respond to his attacking them verbally? We need someone more like Dr. Ben Carson, a Christian and non-politician. Check him out. I have and I like what I see.
Hey Moore.
Why don’t you follow the 11th. Commandment. God was going to put it in, but he didn’t have room. The eleventh commandment is: Mind your own __________ business.!!! You can fill in the blanks. Yeah, as a Christian, I am going to listen to this guy. Who are you supporting Moore, Mrs. Ethical – Hillary JO!!! This woman has gone as far as committing murder and getting AWAY with it. Set you sights on this monstrosity and not on Donald Trump who has the nuts to say what he feels, no matter what turd he offends.
I am so proud of Evangelico Christians who refuse to let one appointed leader dictate to millions of American voters. That is manipulation and communism. I am not an American but I stand with Donald Trump he loves America ,he is greatful to America.On Hannity last evening Mr. Trump was asked if he would accept pay if he is elected he said no.
I believe he wants to help reduce the insain deffecit and he will if given the chance.I believe He is America’s only hope to end the corruption ,poverty and davision . Also Mr. Trump knows what most Americans don’t know , that here in Ontario Canada our health care program is fantastic. Americans would love our healthcare. It works!!! we have a healthcare card and that’s all we need to see a Doctor or be admitted to a hospital. The Ambulace if needed is out of our pocket ,it costs a wopping $45.00 Less than a Taxi cab. Do your home work!!
Love and Prayers to all of you in America.
Jane 🙂
PS
There is strong evidence linking autism to vacines. Check out vactruth.com
THERE is people that say if you don’t vote you are wrong in Gods eyes. that is not true ?
I will never vote for some one that voted for man to marry man or 2 women to marry that is a sin .read the bible
Matt.20 1–16 .sodom and Gomorrah ISA> Leviticus man kind do not lay with man kind as with women kind it is a sin .
All the problems our country is experiencing is a direct result of apathetic Christians.I challenge all Christians to take the Hillsdale College course on the US Constitution and go to Wall Builders web site ,David Barton will School you on our founding Fathers and the founding of the greatest country on Gods green earth. Further more Roman’s chap.13 and render unto Ceaser what is Ceasers does not apply to this Country.One,this is a representative government not a dictatorship and most of our previous representatives where Christians and from this day forward should be for the fact that someone who fears God will answer to God and that make’s a great person to lead and represent us instead of someone who is self centered, egotistical, and an arrogant control freak. Two pull out a Dollar, it says The United States of America on it not some Ceaser, so I should render unto myself not Ceaser.When reading God’s Word you should remember to understand the place and times the people where living in.Christians should not stop praying for our nation,but should be active in every aspect of it after all this is where we live and is one of the only places that we can live in freedom and liberty,and don’t stop shearing the love of Christ to lead people unto the Father and eternal Life. This is loving your neighbor as yourself and being a good Samaritan.
Russell Moore decides to speak now. Where has he been for the last 7 years? He is mistaken and should do his homework.
Brilliant, It is far better to support the Liberal, Fetal Crushing ideology
of the Clinton crew.
The SBC needs to pay closer attention to its misguided Leadership.
Did anyone actually read Dr. Moore’s article and not just this writer’s thoughts? No where in his article does Dr. Moore demand his members immediately stop supporting Trump. This is just the writer injecting his thoughts so as to incite outrage among the readers. Dr. Moore is encouraging people to do their research. Find out about the character of the candidate as that will give us some idea as to how they will conduct themselves in the Oval Office. What do they really stand for? Yes, It’s refreshing to hear a candidate speak out against things that most Americans have thought about and are passionate about. But…all I’ve heard from Trump is a lot of blustering and nothing substantial about how to fix these things. In fact, I’ve been quite embarrassed by his speeches which arouse the people but leave us unsatisfied as to how things can/will change. To me, it would be like following the Pied Piper. Fellow Americans, do your own research, pray and make an informed decision when choosing who will lead our Country for the next four years.
This church leader should not be telling anyone who or what to vote for. The leaders can present the facts about all of the candidates, without endorsing anyone. To come out against Trump is not his place to do. Shame on him! Could this be part of the Apostate Church talking– that will join with the Government, to battle against Christ and His followers? Read the book of Revelation.
What is this church “leader” afraid of happening? We know Trump cares about America, he knows how to handle finances, and will obtain results for WE THE PEOPLE. Are we Christians wise enough to see through this controlling church “leader”? No church is to control its members; it is unscriptural and borders on cult-like activity.
I would like to know who’s pocket Mr. Moore is in. It has already been published that the PAC and the other candidates are out to destroy Mr. Trump’s chances of obtaining the presidency. None of the other candidates have the ability to turn this country around like Mr. Trump. He would be someone that other countries would respect because they know he means what he says. We cannot judge some ones relationship with God. That is totally personal. What we can do and must do is pray that God’s will for our country be fulfilled. God bless you all and God bless America.
The SBC is hardly qualified to be making any judgements about anything especially an election!! They gave up that right when they kicked GOD to the curb years ago!! There are still a lot of Christians in the SBC, but most of them are not real Christians they’re Southern Baptists – definitely NOT the same thing!!!
Hi OR – I wouldn’t say they kicked God to the curb. I would say they accepted the New Age Bible versions, the pagan praise songs, and accepted the notion that they should keep their religion and opinions inside the four walls of the church. I have a friend still in the SB denomination and she is so asleep.
Could Mr Trump be the next King Cyrus as one Pastor envisioned? I am a Pastor of another denomination (I will leave that blank so my fellow pastors can choose what the Lord says to do), & I see Mr Trumps faults & failures. I like Dr Carson, but is he the right man to right our country. Is there anyone will to be a wrecking ball in the Liberal China Shop we now call America (or should I say the liberal media & politicians). None of those running can or will do what Mr Trump will to restore America to it’s greatness, just as King Cyrus (A heathen king) did for Israel. Why do we keep looking for the next Messiah to deliver us from the Liberal machine. The next time Jesus returns will be to rule after the Tribulation. STOP LOOKING FOR THE PERFECT CHRISTIAN MAN TO BE PRESIDENT. Let God use whatever instrument He needs to return America to it’s greatness…maybe even a CINO (Christian In Name Only) to crush the liberals. Notice: The media & Liberals fear him…I as a sold out born again, Spirit led Believer trust in Jesus Christ I don’t fear him, but see how he is tearing down their kingdoms other political born again believer’s will not fight! If he is God’s trumpet call, so be it. I will honor him as President, but still follow my Savior!!!
Be very careful for all Religious Leaders are not really Religious or Spiritual so Check them out fully first before falling for possible B.S. Think hard. Opinion.
> I challenge all Christians to take the Hillsdale College course on the US Constitution
I second that motion, then maybe they will realize how much God -HATES- our free mason government. The last warning to Congress not to mock God, delivered by their own stenographer, made that clear.
The USA is the woman of Babylon, NYC is the city of the seven mountains, God is wiping the east and west coast off the face of the earth (Zech 13), and we have reached the end.
imho, God is using “The Donald” to cut off the hand of Congress, just as God showed me he would do in Feb and March 2014. Which is what Obama and then SCOTUS did. How did Obama end our pagan 2014 year? With CUBA ! Did anyone see that coming? This so called Iran treaty is nothing more then cutting off the hand of Congress.
So, how is Trump cutting off the hand of Congress? Have the six representatives and senators basically disappeared from sight after he started to run? How are they, especially the ones that are not natural born citizens under our free mason Constitution (aka Rubio and Cruz), doing in the single digits? I guess Carl Rove and the rest of the RINOs are now worried they might have to deal with the fake LFBC after Obama leaves office after all.
They need not worry, there will not be a USA after Feb 2017. The Cacodemon In Charge did not wait 2,000+ years to get to this point and just walk away.
God is against this nation and many of the talking head religious leaders have been warned about the Bible numerics buried in the the USA’s history and God’s judgment (Curse of the Zeroes) against it for abortion, followed by homosexual marriage.
This is the problem with Religion in any country. For some reason or another those that are in leadership positions of a religion or any form of an organization think that their congregation actually take orders from fools like this Russell Moore. This is why I don’t belong to any kind of religion. zzzzzz…..I follow my faith not religious fools like this idiot. This is the reason God didn’t want us all living in large cities. (For we would all become as one and think like one another). We are to live seperate from one another to think freely for our self.
My only, worry about Donald Trump is….I hope, he is sincere in his endeavor of running for the White House and not just to divide the conservative vote. Should i find that he is sincere and dedicated in returning this country back to God. Then my vote goes to …..TRUMP! I pray Donald can TRUMP the herd……………….
Tax the churches and the businesses they run.
These preachers who tell their congregation who to vote for, are really not much different from the mullahs.
I agree with all those comment’s on true Christianity.if we don’t appoint true believer’s of the Bible in office, the United State’s is doomed for destruction! please, put God back as our
king of king’s. we were founded on the word of God. true born again believer’s are being
killed for the truth. it will get much worse if we don’t.
Since when do you get to make judgement of others . Sttick to your church matters and I am sure there are plenty
Where was he in 2008 and 2012. There have been positive changes in Trump. He is not my number one choice but I could support him. He has agreed to stand up for Christians in USA and around the world. God can change a person when they are willing to open themselves to Him.
An Evangelical.
John
I follow God the Father, Jesus the Son and the Holy Spirit who lives in my heart. I read my Bible and pray every day. I attend a Southern Baptist church where I try and go ever Sunday.
I for one do not allow no one to tell me how or who that I should vote for.
I am a strong believer in the “RAPTURE” I am looking for my Lord Jesus to come at anytime. So, when the true born-again believers leave this old God forsaken, Christ hating world! I for one do not care who wins this election. If people do not “REPENT” you will go through the Great Tribulation, then a HELL FIRE where Satan, The Beast and False Prophet will be and punish forever and ever!
There’s only one escape for this and that is “JESUS CHRIST” do you really know him?
GOOD LUCK TO THE TEA PARTY LET’S TAKE 501 C AWAY FROM CHURCHES WHO GET IN POLITICS
Every adversarial knock is a boost! Go Trump!
Dr. Russel Moore advertised support for the homo-pedophile society last year. He represents the gender-confused and pedophile society within the Southern Baptist denomination, not Southern Baptists. The concept that he controls the Southern Baptist “convention” over-extends factuality.
Russell Moore is a Democrat. He previously worked for a pro-life democrat politician. There is no more pro life in the democrat party. In his position in the church, how can he still support a party that militantly stands for abortion, for planned parenthood, for cutting up aborted infants and selling their body parts?
Yes, and the Baptists who didn’t show up for the last Presidential election gave us 4 more years of Obumbler. Thanks, guys and gals. Of course, there was a little matter of voter fraud, and that was evident, too. But when so-called “Evangelicals” stayed home and sat on their thumbs, they showed how little they cared for righteousness. Pitiful.
I don’t look for any President to be Messiah, but I do expect competence and ability. We can pray for someone like Trump, or we can pray for someone like Hillary. The distance to morality is a lot shorter for Trump – who admittedly is a bit like Nebuchadnezzar. But Hillary is Jezebel – an evil power-glutton, while Nebuchadnezzar was mostly narcissistic.
Ever see how G0D refers to Nebuchadnezzar? Three times he calls him “my servant.” No such words for Jezebel.
If Moore actually reads his Bible, and listens to the Holy Spirit, he would not be so ignorant.