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Top Dems: Trump doesn’t scare us at all

Hillary Clinton’s top supporters and other Democrat insiders have a message for Republican voters – bring on Donald Trump, and Ben Carson, too.

The Associated Press contacted all 712 superdelegates to the Democratic National Convention next summer, and asked them which Republican they thought would be their party’s strongest opponent in the general election.

And it’s clear that the Democrats continue to underestimate both Trump’s and Carson’s popular appeal among voters.

“As a Democrat, I’d love to see a Trump-Carson ticket,” said Bob Mulholland, a member of the Democratic National Committee from California. “We’d probably win back the Senate and pick up the House as well.”

Offering a window into how the Democratic establishment is sizing up the competition, most superdelegates expressed bewilderment at a Republican field in which billionaire Trump and retired neurosurgeon Carson are leading in polls while Jeb Bush, the son and brother of presidents, struggles.

Of the 176 superdelegates who answered the question, 65 said Rubio, the first-term senator from Florida, would be the Democrats’ strongest opponent.

“Rubio speaks well and he could generate appeal among Latino voters,” said Chris Wicker, vice chairman of the Nevada Democratic Party, referring to Rubio’s background as a Cuban-American raised by working-class parents. “He doesn’t say some of the crazy stuff that the other leaders have said.”

The other candidates Democratic insiders cited as their strongest opponents included Ohio Gov. John Kasich, 45 votes, Bush, 36, Trump, 16, Carson, 4, Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, 4, and New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, 2.

Businesswoman Carly Fiorina and former New York Gov. George Pataki each got a vote. So did Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, who dropped out of the race, and Mitt Romney, the 2012 Republican nominee.

Democratic superdelegates can support the candidate of their choice at the party’s summer national convention, regardless of whom voters choose in the primaries and caucuses. They are members of Congress and other elected officials, party leaders and members of the Democratic National Committee.

They are the ultimate party insiders. With 712 votes at the convention, superdelegates make up about 30 percent of the 2,382 needed to clinch the Democratic nomination.

In an interview, Rubio played down his status among Democratic insiders.

“You never know what these people are thinking when they say these things to reporters,” Rubio said. “I do believe, and I’ve believed this through this campaign, that if I’m our nominee, we’re going to be viewed as the party of the future and the Democrats are going to be viewed as the party of the past.”

Many Democrats surveyed were dismissive of Trump. Some said his sharp rhetoric on issues like immigration won’t fly in a general election.

About one-fifth of Democratic superdelegates who answered the survey said they believe Bush, who is fighting to stem a slide in GOP polls, could bounce back and pose a threat to Clinton, given his name recognition and early fundraising.

Even more superdelegates praised Kasich, a two-term Ohio governor who served 18 years in the House. Some Democrats described Kasich as the “adult” in the field who could campaign from the center and win his home state, a key battleground.

The last candidate to win the White House without Ohio was Democrat John F. Kennedy in 1960.

“A Democratic nightmare would begin and end with a Rubio-Kasich ticket,” said former state Rep. Boyd Brown of South Carolina.

The AP results come as Clinton is solidifying her support among the superdelegates. More than two months before the first primaries and caucuses, Clinton has public endorsements from 359 superdelegates, while Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders has 8 and former Maryland Gov. Martin O’Malley has 2.

A few Clinton supporters warned against dismissing Trump too quickly, given today’s political climate.

Joe Rugola, a labor union leader in Ohio, said Trump and Carson might be written off in a normal political year, but “I don’t think there’s anything normal about politics in America right now.”

The Associated Press contributed to this article

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  1. Main street says

    Benghazi lies. She told us that Arab Spring was great. A power hungry proven liar. Her hubby’s signing NAFTA has cost the U.S. millions of jobs. His de-regulation of Wall Street caused the 2008 financial crisis. Her charity gives little to real charity. It’s 2015. We don’t need 1990’s relics like her and Bush.

    • GLENN says

      IF we don’t get that MUSLIM TRAITOR out of power now , it will cost us 100,000 AMERICAN LIVES @ DAY HE IS IN THE WHITE HOUSE! YOU POLITITIONS ARE ALL ASS_LICKING COWARDS & I HOPE YOUR FAMILIES are the first to go. MAY GOD FORGIVE YOUR SINS !!!! I DO NOT THINK ANYONE IN AMERICA WILL !!!

    • evacagle says

      OH YEAH! THEN WHY ARE YOU BASHING SOMEONE YOU DO NOT FEAR SO BLATANTLY AND FORCEFULLY. LOOKS LIKE YOU FEAR HIM TO ME. AND YOU SHOULD FEAR HIM. HE IS AWESOME. TEN STEPS AHEAD OF ALL YOU LIBERAL BLUBBERING CARETAKERS AND VICTIMS.

      • Robert Hagedorn says

        Yep. What you say SHOULD be shouted. If the Leftists really believed Trump would be the weakest candidate, they would just smile and shut up.

    • Vikki says

      I’m thinking more of a Trump/Cruz ticket…The Dems WORST NIGHTMARE!!!!!…the reason they keep trying to scare everyone about the Donald is because they KNOW he is the one person that CAN beat them!

      • Dr. Miles says

        I agree with that. Trump and Cruz. What a “power play”. The Dems will wonder what happened.
        GO TRUMP. The Real Americans are behind you.

    • anita says

      we all know what a liar the Clinton B…. is ,the Democrats are scared of Trump ,they know if he gets the Nomination then their days are numbered ,and the crooked Clintons will not steal from the American People anymore ,they both should have been in Prison long ago ,get rid of them now before they do anymore damage ,for her lies about Benghazi ,she needs to be put away ,and her email lies she has to go to Prison .,we had enough of O bama and Clinton and Democrats ,

      • Richard says

        Who knows what records might get released instead of being incorrectly listed as classified to protect certain Democratic and likely, we have to simply be honest, Republican indiscretions. After all, we ALL came out and gave them the House and the Senate and what do we get? Hundreds of thousands of Muslims from an area that has hundreds of thousands of Christians trying to stay outside of range, in the mountains or anywhere that the savages are not present. Why don’t we get them? Why are they all Muslims? I asked the same question of my Republican Governor’s office. Their reply was that they follow the lead of the White House. Somehow I simply don’t remember reading that the States HAVE to follow the White House especially if it is political and most importantly if it is undoubtedly hurting the security of this country. The guy at 1600 must have so much on so many that they are scared to death to move against him which is another excellent reason to get rid of our persistent political class. Put people in power who have had jobs. People like Trump for example or Dr. Ben Carson. For some reason I still have faith in Senator Cruz and I cannot logically explain why except maybe that he cuts across their grain so often and does not care. No, our so called leader will leave us with an internal civil war raging that will now include the so called social justice warriors and after all the ISIS infiltrators are killed and any other violent militants that take up arms against innocent civilians are taken out guess who is going to be left. All those little Liberals in training that joined them and let the media claim it was really about social justice when it was completely about power and fear and they will be facing, most likely, the US military after they have just lost men an women putting down a national rebellion fed and led by ISIS and their Iranian backers. I still believe that he will go on an extended vacation and never come back to the US except maybe as leader of the UN which would be interesting. The greatest traitor in American history would have diplomatic immunity in the city where the radical Islamist st savages started it all. I think that the UN is a failed institution and needs to be reconsidered now before it is too late. NATO is a shell of itself with only Germany being any likely threat to a real invader. But then again, Germany’s leader, just like our so called leader has been pumping in Muslim refugees by the thousands and her people are starting to rebel as the rapes and the inevitable conflicts emerge when one civilization is invaded by another. Immigration means you intend to join the culture you are going to. What we are seeing is not immigration. It is September 11, 1683 all over again except this time there was nobody to stop the invasion at Vienna and they are now scattered across all of Europe with orders to out breed the countries that take them in. Does that sound like immigration? So far, I have not said a single religion related thing but I will do so now. This country has turned so far away from the principles that made it great and the common, though with some significant differences, religion that bound us together that I just don’t know what God would do to help us. What if the current resident at 1600 decides to NOT use the military to stop violent militants rampaging across the country? After all, he has cashiered way too many generals and Heaven only knows the types that he has put in their place. The military had taken a hard politically correct turn and there is a whole crop of generals (please note the lack of capitalization) that care more about social theory than military theory and keeping their personnel alive. If US citizens try to fight back 1) they will be outgunned and will not have access to explosive ordinance like what has likely been positioned already thanks to the brilliance of “The One” 2) They will have some military experience as there are more than a few veterans across the country and finally 3) What if “The One” turns the military against the civilians trying to protect themselves instead of the militants trying to carve out what, another caliphate here? What happens when those carefully selected generals turn their guns on citizens protecting themselves to force them to not engage the militants and stop them? God, please help us all.

        • brewer says

          well I guess I would haft to go against my own military that I served myself… if they go that far and that would be a sad day for me

        • Mindy Zumba says

          DUMP TRUMP, DUMP TRUMP, DUMP TRUMP, DUMP TRUMP, DUMP TRUMP, DUMP TRUMP, DUMP TRUMP,

          PLEASE DUMP TRUMP, DUMP TRUMP, DUMP TRUMP, DUMP TRUMP,

      • Mindy Zumba says

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        PLEASE DUMP TRUMP, DUMP TRUMP, DUMP TRUMP, DUMP TRUMP,

    • Elizabeth Bowers says

      Will the GOP establishment get their way? Thus it would be establishment candidates (Bush, etc.) and a Hilary victory.

    • Mindy Zumba says

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      PLEASE DUMP TRUMP, DUMP TRUMP, DUMP TRUMP, DUMP TRUMP,

  3. Grant says

    All you have to do is flip what the Dems are saying, “As a Democrat, I’d love to see a Trump-Carson ticket,” means they are scared to death of such a ticket! Also, “A Democratic nightmare would begin and end with a Rubio-Kasich ticket,” watch whom they want to run and do just the opposite! They know damn well that Kasich is the weakest of any of the candidated who have a chance (slim) of getting the nomination! I love watching the Dems squirm especially since they best they can run out there is an old, washed up hag! Bring it on Dems!!!

    • Mindy Zumba says

      DUMP TRUMP, DUMP TRUMP, DUMP TRUMP, DUMP TRUMP, DUMP TRUMP, DUMP TRUMP, DUMP TRUMP,

      PLEASE DUMP TRUMP, DUMP TRUMP, DUMP TRUMP, DUMP TRUMP,

      • Josw says

        Poor mindy or should be called mindless: When you act on bravado you repeat yourself over and over trying to convince mostly yourself that you really believe what you are saying. Say it long enough and in your mind it becomes reality.
        Think, mindy, think.

  5. Mike Sabota says

    Hillary has to surmount her legal issues before she can be the nominee…Every passing day,the evidence mounts and soon will be presented to DOJ…
    Maybe no formal charges,but will be enough to keep her from wrapping up the nomination..which is ok in my book…

  7. Russ says

    the low life libtards are scared to death of Trump. They (the libtards) are a truly disgusting lot. Hillary the hedge hog will look great in her new orange pants suit. scum bag!!

  8. Hoffhack says

    These eff-ing Liberals are just as Delusional as “Barrack The Magic Negro!” Trump will turn Hillary every which way but loose!

  9. Gilbert Weissler says

    Sadly too many people will vote for a party rather than for a person. The Republican choosing cnbc for their first debates was a horrible mistake. The station made them a laughing stock with the stupid questions asked of the participants. It was a whole different way of handling the Democratic debates which had some substance to the questions. It is this glaring difference in the way the news media projects the parties that will make this election an uphill battle for the Republicans regardless who they run for office.

    Hopefully our electorate will not buy into the Democratic fostering that anyone who disagrees with them are hateful of women and of those who are of Mexican descent. For me it is hard to understand someone who loves humanity voting for a party that defends and promotes organizations such as Planned Parenthood and blithely ignores their atrocities. Gilbert

    • John R. De Lude says

      You nailed that one on the head.
      It may be time to “FIRE” all politicians, as they are in the political field with the main purpose of gaining significant wealth. And they back up this problem with more lies.

      Question: How do you know when a politician is LYING?
      Answer: There lips are moving.

      • Charles Hess says

        If only we could rid ourselves of those currently in office. I realize that there may be some, a few, that should be left in office, but let them run for office to regain their seat. Starting with a fresh slate in both the Senate and the House is a fearful position, but we have too long let those in office have their way.

        Along with a new election, laws regarding term limits should be enacted. This could go a long way in changing the current system. And also, enact legislation that would prevent those not in office from becomming lobbyists. That is definitely necessary.

  10. Ron says

    Do you really think that the Democrats are going to be honest about who they fear most as an opponent? They want to convince the GOP voters to pick the candidate they feel they could easily defeat.

  11. Justin W says

    It’s interesting that Democrats consider a moderate Republican to be their biggest threat. I think John McCain, Bob Dole, and Mitt Romney have held similar positions in the past….oh, wait…those guys all lost.

    2016 is likely to be an unpredictable year. Should President Obama be able to fill America with Syrian refugees, a terrorist attack in the summer or fall could give the Republican candidate a 50 state landslide victory. A terrorist attack could also send a host of Democrat politicians into retirement.

    On election day 2015, Kentucky voters handed Republicans an unprecedented number of wins in what was once a solid-Democrat state. Little know Republican challengers unseated well-financed Democrat candidates. Only two Democrats will hold statewide elected office in Kentucky in 2016.

    President Obama is foolish enough not to be afraid of ISIS infiltrating the refugees he wants to bring to America. The Democrat presidential candidates are fools not to be afraid of Donald Trump. He is likely to connect with the voters in a way the Democrats can only dream about.

    • Moe Verner says

      Donald Trump connects with voters? How do you figure that? I mean, he definitely has a way of rallying people and getting some people excited. But he’s got no policy, and he knows nothing about international relations outside of trade. And even when it comes to trade he’s shoddy. He thought China was a part of the TPP. I mean, come on. And that was after it was finally published. He had the chance to at least double-check. I don’t know about Trump. I see he gets people excited, but I don’t know what there is to get excited about. And, honestly? Bernie’s connecting with the people more than Trump is. Bernie gets way bigger crowds, and actually stands for what the majority of Americans actually want to see happen in this country. Here’s the thing about Trump. He won’t get a single democratic vote. Bernie’s got a growing portion of republicans who intend to vote for him. You can yell at me all you want because that’s what you guys do on this website, but at the very least look at their ideas side by side.

      Oh and: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_sanders-5565.html

      • David Kruger says

        I use to lean towards the democratic party until I woke up and realized that the democratic party is attempting to change our constitution from “We The People” to “We The GOVERNMENT”
        Now I am totally for TRUMP but not so much for the Republican Party.

        • Moe Verner says

          I totally respect that. I’m aware that the democratic party isn’t a whole lot better than the republican party. That’s why I’m an independent. Something that shocked me was when I realized that, as a democrat, I was totally blind to some of the stuff the party was doing. Now, to be fair, a lot of things I still agree with. But we ought to move in the direction of a country fueled by people who are deeply involved with the political system. Otherwise it’s just going to become a corporate oligarchy. I like that Trump is stirring things up. I don’t particularly like how he’s doing it, but I appreciate his efforts.

  12. Jeff says

    ill go on record as sayn trump rubio. W/O trump rep have zero chance of winning.I am independent / regan democrat and we strongly favor trumps message.thx

  13. Eddie G. says

    The GOP field of candidates are way far ahead in their goals than that of the Dummycrats. GOP candidates talk about real issues versus their Dummycrat opponents who only squawk about climate change and gun control, two issues the American public is not interested in versus that of the economy, jobs, runaway government corruption, taxes, and Obama’s lack of real leadership against our enemies. Hillary and Bernie are too old and corrupt plus O’Malley is just an idiot. Sanders likes Socialism, Hillary embraces Marxism, and O’Malley squawks about how Iowa gets 30% of it’s energy from wind while dismissing where does the other 70% come from? Duh ! I tink it be coal and oil oh my ! 3 Amigo idiots whom the DNC is putting all their marbles on especially one demented corrupt old lesbian bag who has no allegiance except to her narcissistic self just like Obutthead.

  15. rodney says

    democratic strategist are idiots, they are supporting Hilary aren’t they? They can’t stopp the bleeding. chicago won’t vote for Hilary , that is for sure. hispanics don’t like her, women don’t like her. They are scared and this is an attempt to be brave. Yeah just like the JV team, Democratic strategists like the faggot are so out of touch with the world it’s pathetic. This only goes to rove the point of Rush and a few others.

  17. andrei rosenwasser says

    Hello,
    i am not an American cititen but i can tell you what i think about the 2016 candidates.
    Begining i don’t think that Mrs Hillary CLINThON has a chance to be the next president of USA.
    Read the book of M.Klein “the Amateur”, especially the beginning and yo’ll have an idea about her husband’s oppinion about the actaua, president of the USA, M.Obama,
    Conserning the republican candidates i can’t tell you my oppinion because of lack of knoleadge.
    Yours faithfully,
    Dr.A. Rosenwasser .

    P.S.i hope that now you won’t find any “flow” in my remarks. Please ignore my supplementary remarks, and don’t publish them.

  18. David Kruger says

    Trump is our best chance for “we the people” and that includes blacks, Spanish and all legal citizens. Even the illegals will benefit in the long run. And I believe that a Trump president will give those born here a shorter and easier path to full citizenship… Unless you are a total asshole like those in that disgraceful video!
    I am undecided who Trumps running mate should be but maybe Rubio might help the Hispanic votes.

  19. Lois Wenk says

    ignore Trump he is bad news and an arrogant lying 2 faced, inconsistent, woman hatting, racially prejudice problem. Look at what he says with hid words and behavior.

  20. steve h says

    I know there are intelligent people here but you do understand that this is what they call “reverse psychology”. Remember the story of ole brier rabbit. “Whatever you do don’t throw me in the brier patch”.
    The dumbass Dems want you to think they want Trump so they can trounce Trump. The real fact is they know they will lose to Trump. They say they “don’t ” want to face Rubio……..BULLSHIT. Rubio is one of them.

  21. Charles Williams says

    That dam Muslin that we have in the white house only wants to help the Muslins and help them take over the world. I hope and pray that someone get a good start on a impeached
    to kick the Muslin out of the white house. Then indick for a big jail term for Hillary Clintonas she is the biggest lair that ever been in office. That goes for Bill as well. The only way we will get out of what this bush has got us into is vote for a man that owes no one like Mr Donald Trump a man that will do what he said, and want let amy one push him a round. He will lake a stand and back it . I hope that he wins and put all of the people that running for president on the GOP party in a in office to back him . then let them kick ass on all of the dam libble Democratic who want all of us to be dependent on the government for our lives

  24. Jerry Feldman says

    Hillary Clinton says that the U.S. is not at war with Islam or Muslims. We are only at war with Jihadis. The 26,387 terrorist acts world wide were all perpetrated by Islamic Muslims. It is just a coincidence that all these terrorist act were perpetrated by Muslims. The Islamist have just had bad luck. It is just a coincidence that they were all perpetrated by Muslim. Coincidence only.

  25. Fred Mitchell says

    Hillary is right,Trump can’t scare Democrats,,,,,,once they have been brain washed,its all over,,,,,,,they are just coasting.

    • Mindy Zumba says

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      PLEASE DUMP TRUMP, DUMP TRUMP, DUMP TRUMP, DUMP TRUMP,

  27. Mindy Zumba says

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    PLEASE DUMP TRUMP, DUMP TRUMP, DUMP TRUMP, DUMP TRUMP,