San Francisco Democrats have failed two times to grant illegal immigrants voting rights. Now they’re hoping the third time is a charm – and they’re relying on GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump to help them.
The San Francisco Board of Supervisors member Eric Mar believes the anti-Trump political climate in the city will help push through his proposed amendment.
Mar says he wants illegal immigrants with children in the city’s public school system to vote in school elections.
“With Donald Trump’s racist and anti-immigrant sentiments, there is a reaction from many of us who are disgusted by his politics,” Mar told Fox News. “I think that’s going to ensure there is strong Latino turnout as well as other immigrant turnout.”
According to The Public Policy Institute of California, “almost a quarter of the nation’s undocumented immigrants reside in California, where they make up slightly more than 6 percent of the state’s population.”
That ensures the passing of Mar’s proposed amendment would create a large increase in the San Francisco voter rolls.
To their credit, San Fran voters have twice narrowly rejected previous proposals to extend voting rights to illegals, once in 2004 and again in 2010. Mar is attempting to get the charter amendment on the ballot for the third time for the November 8th presidential elections.
The proposed amendment has critics outraged.
“It is wrong to extend the vote to individuals who have not entered the American social compact or made a commitment to our Constitution, our law, and our cultural and political heritage by becoming citizens. It is even worse to extend the franchise to illegal aliens whose very first act is to violate our laws; that encourage contempt for the law,” Hans von Spakovsky, senior legal fellow at The Heritage Foundation and former Federal Elections Commission member, told Fox News.
In the next coming weeks, the charter amendment will go to a rules committee, and then on to the board of supervisors who will make the final decision on whether it will appear on the ballot.
— The Horn editorial team
The Democrats are Citizens of the world, just like Obama! I AM NOT A CITIZEN OF THE WORLD, I AM A CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA! and they DO NOT have a right to change my Country into some ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT! This is an evil that I and many others can see coming. Ladies and Gentlemen, when Obama addresses our people, he NEVER uses a term that separates us from any other trash of the world, but puts us on the same plane of all the others. He has stated many times that he is A CITIZEN OF THE WORLD! That told me right of what his intentions were. Notice that he and his administration never puts any separation between The Citizens of this great Country and any ILLEGAL PARASITE that crosses our boarders. Folks, that is not being KIND HEARTED, that is being STUPID! I don’t care what game you are playing or what association you portend, THERE WILL BE RULES TO FOLLOW, and without rules, you have chaos.
Main Street says
Republicans have the largest majority control of Congress since Coolidge was President. Yet their influence is so minor. It seems in the past 2 years things have gotten worse and the far left got more bolder.
EEL RIVER says
THATS BECAUSE THOSE REPUBS ARE RHINOS, LIKE RYAN, MC CAIN AND THE REST OF THE SPINELESS LITTER, THAT WE HAVE BEEN BLESSED WITH.
Vern Higbee says
You left out Romney; we need to thank him for electing obummer
ILLINOIS BOB says
Some States like VIRGINIA planning to allow prison inmates to vote, so no surprise that sanctuary cities recognize ILLEGAL’s as Legal voters in elections. KILLARY wants to have voter expansion so why not include convicted criminals (KILLARY has a soft side for felons as she may be one sooner rather than later).
THE NEXT WAVE OF DEMOVRATIC VOTERS – FELONS & INMATES: It has been reported that more than 1.57 million inmates are behind bars in federal, state, and county prisons and jails at any one time. And when you consider the estimated 12 million Americans who cycle through county jails for periods of less than a year, the total number of Americans behind bars can jump to an estimated 2.4 million.When you factor in released inmates who are barred from voting due to felony convictions, the number of voter-disenfranchised Americans grows to an estimated 5.85 million, or 2.5 percent of the nation’s voting population, according to a recent report by “The Sentencing Project”.
The GOP side of the Senate and House have been cowards under Obama… so Yes, GOP equally to blame for this nonsense – especially the last 2 years!
I can’t for the life of me figure out how these crooked political fools can decided for every one.!we have laws blocking so many things. Doesn’t matter to liberals as they do as they please an no one even tried to stop their illegal dealings
They’re the problem of this country,they dictate everything and this Republican should stop them,Democrats like Pelosi has no place in society to serve,Boxers and Feinstein,they don’t belong there if they dictate and that Mar what’s illegal wrongdoing s,sad
Agreed they need to be shown the door
Don’t forget Cruz
Decent people of the US it is time to quite the BS with all this liberal and rino BS. Is time as Dolly said in the book about
About Hillary ugly, nasty smelly stinking with big nasty feet and smelly hair.needs to go to California leave with the scum outtq
William G Munson says
that is because they are Democrats running as Republicans period and it is illigal to grant any illegal to vote at anytime why do you think we have the Constitution for?
GWEN ENGLAND says
GOD HELP US ALL IF THIS PASSES.
William G Munson says
even congress can not pass a law against the constitution period
They can, they have, and no one has stopped them yet.
You DO remember the USA PATRIOT act and subsequent bills, yes?
What about the NDAA’s?
Both of those outright violated multiple provisions of the Constitution, specifically the Bill of Rights, yet CongressCretins passed them, and NWO rep presidents signed them…and others like them, e.g. the ACA – and the word “health” does not appear in the Constitution AT ALL, much less the idea that any American can be forced to buy anything from anyone at any time for any reason.
SCOTUS? Those sob’s routinely exercise a power called “interpretation”(which, btw, the Constitution does NOT GRANT THEM, see Article 3) and “implied powers”(see the Preamble to the Bill of Rights which denies THAT idea), to twist and shred the Constitution to their liking.
i’m reminded of what Patrick Henry said on the subject:
“Your Constitution has been written as if only good men would take office. What will you do when evil men take office? When evil men take office, the whole gang will be in collusion! They will keep the people in utter ignorance and steal their liberty by ambuscade! Your laws on impeachment are a sham and a mockery due to mutual implication of government officials!”
Patrick Henry (American Lawyer, patriot, and orator, symbol of the American struggle for liberty, 1736-1799)
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government – lest it come to dominate our lives and interests.”
Patrick Henry (American Lawyer, patriot, and orator, symbol of the American struggle for liberty, 1736-1799)
Everyone who has a public office is required to swear an oath of fealty to the Constitution, yet none has ever been held to account for their violations of that Oath – ergo, such criminality has continued and gotten worse. Arrests of these Oath-breaking Felony Perjurers, even MASS arrests, would put them on notice that we the People care and WILL hold them accountable!
Excellent response, Constitutionalist! Thank you.
Nearly 60 years ago, I took the Pledge of Allegiance to uphold this Nation against all enemies and uphold the Constitution. Now I find this Pledge is obsolete to too many elected officials and is ridiculed and debased by the President.
Many of the public, and far too many elected officials may find both the Pledge of Allegiance and the Rules to become a Citizen somewhat elastic in their meaning and intent. To those of us that gave up allegiance to our Countries and families, because of oppression, or for personal growth or beliefs, feel betrayed and dishonored by the U.S. Government and its President.
We worked hard; we helped fight America’s wars; we raised our children to have pride in their nation; we sent our children to colleges and universities, often we also worked to achieve those same goals. We started businesses, and so many other things that being an American citizen could only achieve in this country!
Many of us are helpless and watch our families and their own hopes sink under the yoke of criminal illegal immigrants in our birth nations. There, kindness and sympathy has grown out of hand and, itself, has become militant and irrational. And, here we are, living a nightmare that is personal to us legal immigrants, a nightmare we are helpless to influence because there is a government and a president who see legal votes more important to a few, but increasing misguided miscreants than its legal citizenry and their obligation to protect them.
Most legitimate immigrants waited 5 or more years for the privilege of citizenship. We could not vote, we were not permitted into government employ, etc. etc. Now, look around you and see true injustice at work, and insult and pain among us because weak and misguided people have been allowed to place personal over public need.
Walter Greenly says
We need to get the convention of the states moving. With that, we have a constitutional Way to make changes such as term limits and more. I believe this is allowed under the 5th amendment.
Get your own blog man! Your hot air Is working my air conditioner!!
Arthur Hartsock says
Have you read this article? It’s only for school board elections-local elections. Nothing in state or national involved. I’d probably trust the judgement of these ‘undocumented’ people living in San Francisco over the commie school board members in their city. Too bad they can only vote for one worthless liberal commie or another. Maybe they’ll surprise everyone and vote for charter schools and school vouchers?!!
ILLEGALS DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE!! Their vote should be discarded like yesterday’s newspaper. Only way Dems/libs win is by cheating these days!!! It’s a disgrace!!! SOMEONE WHO WORKS AT THOSE voting booths in SF BETTER do their JOBS CORRECTLY. They see an illegal vote, grab the ballot and toss it in the garbage can!!!
Donna Pace says
I totally agree with you Lori! They do not have the right to vote. I have to prove that I am a United States Citizen PERIOD! I agree if you are an illegal you do not have the right to vote.
Oh my god! What will be next. Come on demacrates .get a life you can’t can get law or policy to fit your needs only when you need it .this is the dumbest democratic move thus.why can’t hillary win like every one else . Doesn’t it say something when you try to hurry and change law and rules to get the vote .we already feed them cloth them and house them giving them more rights as American citizens with out paying dues like me is just plan dumb if they are allowed to hurry up and vote for president will they hurry up and serve on a jury ??? Just wondering why only vote .if they hurry and get the right to vote they should have to do the services also . I wonder if any of the illeagal s donate blood like American citizens do .since a certain percent of illegals are comitting violent brutal crimes .but they get to chose who runs our country .why don’t they go home and vote .that’s what they need to do .if you are illegal and you feel you have a say in who runs our country .go home and worry about your own country and maybe it will get better and you can stay home
Donna Pace says
It is illegal to vote for dead persons, double votes, and undocumented citizens. That is how Obama got the votes for his 2nd term. This is a total felony period!
Ken Stelter says
Very well stated – thank you – it’s good to see other thinking head are alive and struggling.
Charles Van Houghton says
I agree 100 %.
Ditto! Well said!
Paul Bouffard says
U U U R R R RIGHT IF THESE BASTARDS WANT TO CHANGE OUR COUNTRY LET THEM MOVE TO M E X I C O GET THE F — OUT ! ! !
jasper garcia says
I agree, sad truth is they are voting, especially in TX. They come in vans, are handed a document card told who to vote for, then loaded back in vans and off to another polling location. This happened in 2012. The black panthers bring them and try to intimate through white voters to leave. One town in TX with 1200 citizens had a voter turn out of 1600. Strange isn’t it. All directed by Obama. We have lost our country.
jasper garcia says
Nuke San Francisco. But move Fishermans Wharf to So Cal first.
sharon howard says
Democrats hate America, and Americans, they will do everything in their power to take our country down and make an Islamic cess pool out of our country. Vote trump, these Democrats communist are all the same.
Donna Pace says
I totally agree with you Sharon Howard.
Take this country down?
Have you not read how you and these folks are already talking trash – LOW dirty trash! You guys take the country down!
Get A Grip………. And an education. At the rate you Libtards are going, we don’t have to worry about another super power taking us down…….. we’re doing a fine job at that on our own!
ROSSETTA FUENTES says
Randy Harod says
Just vote the bums out in 2016. Illegal voting is clearly unconstitutional no matter what some city or even state politicians want to pull over the people.
Holice Pender says
That is what obama & the democrats wants, straight from sol Alinskies “Rules for Radicals.” There is no way Illeagals should be given the right to vote. That is saying it;s OK to break the law, feel free to do so when the law doesn’t work for you. We used to be a country of laws, but now with the influx of so many foreigners coming here in droves, we will soon be a third world country. We should be screening everyone coming over our borders to see if they want to do us harm, or if they honestly want to live & do honest work instead of gaming the system. There ought to be a law that prevents some political opportunist from introducing such a bill in the first place. Our country seems to me is imploding from the inside out. Vote for Mr. Trump. Hilliary will only make matters worse!!!!!
Amen and Praise God for you!
San Francisco is merely a blink of an eye once obama steps up and provides voting rights for ALL illegals for this coming Presidential election. This comes DIRECTLY from the playbook of Venezuela’s now dead Marxist President Hugo Chavez. Upon obtaining the win, Chavez established his Marxist State. The blood of citizens flooded in the streets. The Dreams from my Sperm Daddy are for obama to establish the MSA. The Marxist STATE of America. And yes, that will require the blood of citizens to flood in the streets as well. Are you ready for Obama’s 3rd term?
THIS IS STILL AMERICA AND ONLY AMERICANS SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO VOTE. TAKE A LOOK WHAT WAS VOTED IN THE PAST 8 YEARS AND ONLY BECAUSE THE DEMOCRATS SCREWED UP THE VOTING LIKE ALWAYS ESPECIALLY IN N FLORIDA. IF YOU ARE NOT AMERICAN YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO VOTE. WE NEED TRUMP IN OUR “WHITE HOUSE “. IF YOUR NOT LEGAL YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO VOTE.WHY SHOULD THEY. THE DEMOCRATS KILLED AMERICA AND THEY WANT TO KILL MORE OF IT. IF YOU WANT TO VOTE GO BACK TO YOUR OWN COUNTRY DON’T COME HERE AND KILL OURS.
Nellie McConnell says
Our Military votes were not counted when Obama ran for president BUT ILLEGALS CAN VOTE!!??? THIS IS NOT LEGAL! GOD BLESS OUR COUNTRY! There is nothing wrong with immigration but here illegally is WRONG!
We don’t need refugees that are NOT screened! We don’t need illegal criminals.
VOTE FOR TRUMP!
I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHY IT IS THAT A UNITES STATES CITIZEN, THAT HAS COMMITTED A CRIME AND WENT TO PRISON, IS DEEMED A CRIMINAL WITH NO RIGHTS IN THIS NATION TO EVEN VOTE, YET NON CITIZENS WHO COMMITTED AN ILLEGAL ACT OF CROSSING OUR BORDERS AND NOT ATTAINING CITIZENSHIP, ARE BEING GIVEN THAT RIGHT WHICH IS REFUSED TO US CITIZENS THAT COMMIT CRIMES? SEEMS TO THAT IF WE PUNISH OUR OWN CRIMINALS, WE SHOULD CERTAINLY PUNISH FOREIGN CRIMINALS THAT ILLEGALLY SNEAK INTO OUR COUNTRY, INSTEAD OF REWARDING THEM WITH TAX DOLLAR PAID BENEFITS AND VOTING RIGHTS TO CONTROL THE AGENDA FOR OUR LEGAL CITIZENS.
Dale Ralston says
Thank you. You said it all and I totally agree. More people have to come forward and be heard before we have no country at all.
Main Street says
S.F. was once a city of working class ethnic neighborhoods. A large Italian, Irish and Chinese community. A city noted for it’s beauty and patriotism. It was similar to here in Boston in size and style. Today in both cities, self proclaimed “progressives” have caused high rents that have driven out the working class. Patriotism and moderate attitudes disappear. In the world of faux progressives, there is no place for the poor or working class.
Correct. I lived in SF..you are so right. We were one of thecitalian families that lived there at one time. It’s a disgrace what the Dems turned it into. I don’t even recognize it. I’ve petitioned, I’ve called in nothing works. At one time the streets were safe to walk and everyone knew eachother.. It was a great place to live. A beautiful city with people of great ethnic legal backgrounds and they had morals and were very serious about their faiths. Now is just the opposite. Gays have taken over..pretty much no God anywhere.. Still some good people but hard to find in a city filled with filth and mad into a sanctuary for convicted felons. It just makes me sick. So happy I don’t live there anymore.
As a native of Southern Califorriia I always embraced the rivalry between the areas. I used to visit once in a while. Loved the food. I dont go there anymore. It has become a “hell hole”.
Arthur Hartsock says
Maybe San Francisco could be encouraged to secede from the US. They obviously hate everything that America stands for. Or maybe a timely earthquake could do the job for us.
Good point. However, they could be signing their own death warrant. Why? San Francisco is known for its large gay population. Anyone thinking of voting for giving illegals the right to vote there, should have taken another look at the terrible deaths in Orlando. Maybe they blocked it out, not wanting to deal with reality? Or, are they really willing and wanting to sign their gay community to death by voting “Yes”?
Death warranty. Very good point!
Paul Bouffard says
S E C E D E YES LET THEM BECOME PART OF M E X I C O
Philip Herrick says
It is conceivable that the illegals could force a vote on just such an idea.
John G says
Wouldn’t expect any less from a city represented by Nancy the “Hand Waver” Pelosi,
A bunch of liberal clown’s.
When is she gonna keel over??? Can’t wait for that day!!!
Rose Boltz says
If you are not a citizen how can you possibly vote in this country? Do you think we could go to a foreign country and vote in their elections? Those is power have lost all common sense, they must be removed from office and replaced with people with a brain. I don’t think their actions are just dumb ideas, it’s pre planned and calculated moves. Trying to bring our country down. We must take charge and save ourselves.
That is why these Demo-rats do not want voter ID’s This would deny an illegal to vote. Demo-rats are anti-America and many Reprobates in Congress are the same!
I am with you. But how to take a charge and save ourselves?
Do you have any ideas? Please, share if you have.
I wish. I had a good idea. The government is exempt , they can reright history he break any law and get with it . just like Hillary. Why is are they above the law . people voted for him it’s to bad . he thinks he’s the king of Obama land . we all need to stand strong like AMERICANS. Vote trump
Mr. Sams says
If you are a felon by our laws your are not allowed to vote, yet they are going to let illegals get to vote. What kind of mess has this country itself into. You can blame the Dems like Killery and Obumo for that mess. What shallow minds they have. Please S.F. don’t let this happen to our United States of America.
Donna Pace says
I totally agree with you Rose. I am 62 years young and never seen our USA go to hell. All the Democrats are communist, hate America, and will NEVER ABIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA THAT WE ARE FOUNDED ON. IN GOD WE TRUST PERIOD!
If this is true then both the Mayor Ed Lee and publicity seeking Progressive Ultra Leftist ‘Supervisor Eric Lee should be the subject of censure and re-call elections. Not that that will do much good in 100% Hard Left San Francisco – but it will be expensive for them. And they only like spending money on dead-beat welfare & illegal sanctuary city projects and Democratic Party Boondoggles at the expense of the remaining few working tax payers of San Francisco.
I believe the federal government should step in and stop the illegals to vote. If they do vote they should immediately be deported. This is shameful and disrespectable to the citizens of this country. San Francisco should not get a penny from either the state or the federal government if they allow illegals to vote.
Southern By Choice says
What do you mean – the federal government??? How do you think a lot of these people, including our Zero in OUR White house, got elected? Only way that MAY happen is if Trump is elected and removes all federal money from these cities. which do not enforce federal law on immigration and illegals. This will only be the first step in allowing them to legally vote in ALL elections.
Defund SF if this is true. Isn’t CA part of the US? Why do tjey get away with thumbing their nose at the federal government ?
because most of their lowlife trash is in the Federal government.
You are correct!! Good luck with Ovomit in office. So much corruption. How will Trump win if this crap is gonna happen. Illegals do not have the right to vote!!!
As they show up to vote we should have the military there to put them into a concealed bus with only one one in doors and then drive them over into the ocean off a barge.
I would not hold my breath waiting for the Feds to protect its citizens or, more recently, the Constitution. If they had done half of what their charters demand, you would not have the problems we do. This has gone on for years: weak in-fighting Congress and Senate, and a pro-Islamist, sickie in the White House. Clue? What the [email protected]# is he doing trying to impose new bathroom etiquette on us? How DARE he represent me by bowing to Hamas and the like and denegrating Israel! A country that has increased the economy in America by $9.3 Billion!
That #[email protected]= did not have the guts or common courtesy to name the murdering Isis prick’s real intent or connection to it. Why have Americans not impeached and imprisoned this fake American yet?
Just more democrapper election fraud, they are starting early. they are not citizens, just how can they vote, ?? is someone handing out voter cards,?? then they are guilty of voter fraud all so.
hate california says
No the are handing out driver licence
Did you not see video of Bill Clinton politicking within 10 ft. Of the voting
booths?? !!!! That’s what Bill & Hilster do to win elections.
retired from the whole mess says
The fence needs to be extended to cover the complete border of the state of Californicatia!!
The Texan says
San Francisco may allow foreign nationals to commit fraud and illegally vote. But San Francisco does not have any authority to give them the right to vote. Only citizens of the United States have the right to vote. And no city can change that. US citizens do not have the right to vote in Canada or Mexico or any other country for that matter. So why should any foreign national claim a right to vote in our elections? Any official that knowingly aids and assists in voter fraud should be arrested.
Exactly!! Any one if us should go down there and take ballots away from people that day!! We need to step up to the plate and say..illegal therefore cannot vote!!!!then demand the official who okayed this that they lose their job!!!
If they want the “illegals” to vote, let them vote on issues that are San Francisco related only and see how they like the results! Leave the rest of us alone.
Another good reason to stay away from CA and especially SFO. We haven’t been there for years…..too bad, we used to have a good time there, but now it’s way too dangerous.
This must never be allowed! Non citizens to vote While they have great interest for their cluntry! To hell for us!!
Try voting in France, in Argentina, anywhere hou wish!! INSANE MORONS!! We already have plenty of ignorance and indiferents!! WHO NEVER OR SELDOM READ NEWS. YET ARE READY FOR VOTING. WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT THE HELL THEY INVITE TO OUR COUNTRY!! What ARE DOING????
AS A COUNTRY SHOULD NEVER ALLOW FOR NON CITIZENS TO VOTE !!!!
The basic goal of the Demorat elite is to destroy the USA in order to create Utopia, which sane people know is impossible. The Demorat masses remain under-educated useful idiots.
If we, Americans, had a Dept. of Justice instead of INJUSTICE, both CA and SF would be prosecuted for violating Federal Laws especially for failing to protect CITIZENS and the Constitution.
If we had a President and Congress, they would impose Martial Law on these rogue cities and go door to door toroute out all the criminal Illegals as well as Imprison the Politicians allowing the destruction of our laws. They have committed Treason by law.
The Illegals or Immigrants that have been using violence at political party gatherings also need to be charged with Felony counts of disrupting a legal process.
Anyone caught waving a foreign flag while causing this disruption should be charged with terrorism.
Unfortunately we seem to be lacking leaders that are for America and Americans.
It’s a sad day for America that we have so many anti- American leaders in office and running for office.
The fall of Rome has begun, destruction and defeat from within.
If we had a President and Congress, they would impose Martial Law on these rogue cities and go door to door toroute out all the criminal Illegals as well as Imprison the Politicians allowing the destruction of our laws. They have committed Treason by law.
1. The Constitution does not even have the word “martial” IN it, so any such declaration would be Unconstitutional ab initio.
2. If you would impose Unconstitutionality upon anyone, you set a precedent to allow it to be imposed upon EVERYone.
3. Treason is the only crime defined in the Constitution itself. What the SF pols are doing does not fit that definition, though what they’re doing IS criminal, IMO; iirc, illegally immigrating to any State of the Union is a Felony, and in most States, felons are NOT ALLOWED the right to vote, ergo they are quite likely in violation of both State and Federal law.
4. i agree that these SF politicians in favor of allowing felons to vote should be arrested, tried, and if convicted, immediately stripped of their office and fined an amount equivalent to all their pay and benefits.
5. Illegal aliens are not necessarily enemies of the United States; they’re just criminals who should have ZERO voice in how they’re governed – unless this is a ploy by SF politicians to trick illegals into identifying themselves so they can be arrested and deported.
Is it any wonder that 60% of Republicans feel betrayed by their party? With majorities in both houses of Congress they refuse to stand up to O’bummer. No wonder the current political hacks in Washington DC are so afraid of Donald Trump and the general membership of the party is giving him their support; if elected he will make a strong moves to end their “privilege”. I say more power to him, and if elected he should take action against the #anyone but Trump crowd that are members of the GOP that appear more willing to give this election to Hillary the snake despite the ramifications that will have for the future.
Let them vote, and then let the other 49 states vote to not count any of the votes from California. That sounds only fair to me. In fact, let the children vote, too. Also, let the animals vote. That should cover everyone. And then when the voting is closed, just throw away every vote from California. That way they will be happy that they got to vote, and those of us with sense will be even happier.
hate california says
Oboma already did that with acorn
David C. says
Utter traitor. No conscience. Not a American for sure. Part of the old guard but guarding what? His reward on earth not in heaven. I wouldn’t want to be him. How deceived can a person be.
Forget California give it to China to pay off our debt and make Puerto Rico our 50th state.
Over %50 of Puerto Rico collects welfare.
They need to be cut loose from the USA since they don’t want to even become a state.
justin W says
If these illegal immigrants want to vote they should follow the law and become American citizens. America is messed up enough by the efforts of idiots who are eager to elevate these criminals to some sort of hero status.
I have always loved San Fran. just visited there in November. I have lost all respect for the ELECTED officials that are allowing the ILLEGALS to vote when this is a PRIVILEDGE NOT SOMETHING THAT IS OWED TO ANYONE!!!!!!!
Well, unfortunately, I live in northern California and my vote and all the votes of the sensible people here is quickly and overwhelmingly negated by the low life, communistic, unAmerican swine of San Francisco and Los Angeles. San Francisco has become the cesspool of Kalifornia, if not the entire United States.
hate california says
I am from sac area live in southern 8.5 years i am out of this trashy state la and sf can kiss my AS-
mike howard says
I see law suits coming!
Start building the wall at California’s border. We need to keep the mentally ill out of America!!!
D. S. says
Then San Francisco or California should be charged with voter fraud and the results thrown out
It is pretty pathetic if it passes….to allow non-citizens of the United States of America to vote, is wrong…plain and simple!
I say give California to Mexico, Its a massive Burden to the US. They don’t abide by Federal Laws Kick em out
Christopher S. O'Rourke says
Allowing illegal aliens the chance to vote, NO WAY!!!!!!!!! It’s bad enough that there are illegal aliens that are from Mexico, and some of the damned garbage legal immigrants from Mexico, Iran, Syria & The PLO that don’t want to learn how to speak English, don’t want to assimilate, demand that you
learn their damned Spanish language in our own country, and demand that their ballots be in Spanish. The other illegals want that damned Sharia law
in our country. Deport all illegals that are from Iran, Syria & the PLO first, then those who are of the garbage class from Mexico & other countries that
want everything their way on a silver platter. I’m so sick & damned tired of hearing that damned Press 1 for English, Press 2 for Spanish when I make
phone calls to pay a bill by phone, ask for information. Millions of other Americans of all backgrounds who legally immigrated to the United States that learned English, are assimilating and have assimilated are also sick & damned tired of that damne Press 1 for English, Press 2 for Spanish also. Do away with that damned Press 1 for English, Press 2 for Spanish. In Mexico when you make a phone call there, you will not hear Press 1 for Spanish, Press 2 for English at all. VOTE TRUMP 2016!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!TRUMP ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They are not undocumented immigrants! They are INVADERS! THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO VOTE HERE! THEY DON’T EVEN HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE ON OUR SCHOOLS . STOP BEING STUPID SAN FRANCISCO! !!!!!!
Open border plus giving away voting right to illegals? I would like to see Obama opens his home (White House for now and his 8200sf, $6 million rent, 9 BR home next year) and allow unscreened illegals come to live with his family first!
hate california says
he will they are call Muslims
Gov. “Moonbeam” Jerry Brown is allowing illegal aliens to have drivers licenses in CA. This will give them an ID to vote. At the DMV they are now given priority service over legal citizens.
hate california says
they need to throw him in jail i did not vote for him he was a looser to first time thanks sf and la
Big Daddy says
Just give the land of the North Western United Mexican States aka California back to them.
Then these illegals will no longer be illegal and ALL there will be happy, in the land of Rainbows, Unicorns and Care Bears.
Well I’ll be damn if they aren’t trying to get rid of Donald Trump by using illegal mexicans ,latinos . You can’t do that BS If you people can do F’d Up Shit then why should we sit around instead of causing a big ass uproar that would get the worlds attention. and have them shout ;It’s about damn time the people of America woke up and stopped the tyranny in Washington,DC . That would give a big RUSH to a lot of us Vets .
Change the White House residents and their government control GUESS WHAT
WE CAN TAKE BACK THE AMERICA WE LOVE AND HONOR
VOTE AND KNOW WHO AND WHAT THEY STAND FOR BECAUSE WE MUST GET THIS COUNTRY BACK QUICKLY
Walt Bazner says
Politicians need to realize they are going to prison for breaking federal election laws. That being said ,from the president on down need to be put in prison. Is there not a sheriff in this country that realizes they have the where with all to arrest anyone in this country.Read the Declaration and Constitution.Grow some balls and take these fools out!!!
hate california says
You will get nowhere until you arrest the politicians who introduce bills that are contrary to the Constitution.
The Constitution must be kept sacred and unchanged. Change that and we are done for.
Seems that nowadays, everything is open to interpretation and that includes the Constitution. Constitutionalist was absolutely correct earlier when he spoke of them changing the Constitution: “They can, they have, and no one has stopped them yet”. Ladies and Gentlemen, It is OUR fault as voters for putting to much trash and garbage in office. I realize that now, the American people are waking up, but in the past there have been to many politicians who won votes simply because they were very well dressed or were very eloquent of speech or very handsome. All these traits are exactly why Obama got elected. Notwithstanding, there were many other nefarious reasons as well. Folks, We The People had better start thinking what is best for our Country again instead of our own special interest or prideful traits.
Donald Trump is my choice, but not because I voted for him. He is my choice because (1) He loves our Country and would NEVER work any evil against it. (2) He has overwhelmingly won the nomination Hands Down and by a huge margin of popular votes. If Donald Trump loses this election it will NOT be because the American People did not vote for him, but because too much EVIL has inundated our society and quenched the peoples choice for POTUS.
GOD BLESS AMERICA! GOD BLESS DONALD TRUMP AND KEEP HIM SAFE!
Only citizens of the United States can vote here – IT SHOULD STAY THAT WAY!!!
Don’t let Muslims vote. They want all of you maimed or dead.
Linda Becker says
I am a legal US citizen. I was born and raised here. Generations of my family are here. Why are the illegals, prisoners and others given the same rights when they don’t respect our laws. It’s the unlawful people who make the rest of us look bad. It is right in saying the Republicans are weak! Why do you think they are afraid of Trump? He speaks the truth. The oldies but goodies? (Very questionable) They don’t want change who are looking out for Themselves and not the American people. Go Donald Trump!!!!
The Constitution requires that only US citizens are allowed to vote. Therefore if SF allows illegals to vote their ballots must not be counted. We need to be vigilant because democrats will cheat and find all means to win the election. They always have been dishonest for many years. They were fraudulent in 2008 and 2012 elections.
ELMO SUDDS says
eric mar and ostupid want their evil agenda they are going to destroy the honest hard working Americans who were born in this nation!!!!!……….. : (
If San Francisco violates the constitution, by allowing illegals to vote. Their votes are not valid. iI is against the law and the constitution. Only citizens could vote, as provided in the constitution.
Bob Taylor says
The Constitution was designed as a limiter of government, a guarantee of certain rights, and further states that rights not listed are retained by the various states and the people. This was based on the country being founded upon a Republic form of government and the people being sovereign not subjects. If you carefully read the Declaration of Independence (“The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America”, In CONGRESS, July 4, 1776) and the Constitution for these united States of America, you may be surprised to find that the word “democracy” does not appear even once in either of these two founding documents. This is because the framers of the Constitution did not want to create a “democracy”.
This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding.
The words in the part beginning with “anything” and ending with “notwithstanding” are very important. Notwithstanding means; in spite of, despite, even if, without regard to or impediment by other things, all the same, however, in any case, in any event, nevertheless, none the less, still, yet. Like subject to, the word notwithstanding creates a priority of provisions. Said simply it means the supreme law of the land cannot be changed by other provisions in the Constitution and the states cannot make any law changing the Constitution from the supreme law of the land.
The rights of the people are not limited by this document but certain rights are so important that they were totally guaranteed by statement.
Amendment 9 – Construction of Constitution. Ratified 12/15/1791.
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
I do not believe it necessary to list every guaranteed right listed within the Constitution however, I do need to reference a few to show my reasoning for this letter.
The following amendment (13) defines the fact that incarcertation is involuntary servitude.
Amendment 13 – Slavery Abolished. Ratified 12/6/1865. 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
Although it may not be clear at this time the 13th amendment is quite important to this discussion as you will see.
Amendment 15 – Race No Bar to Vote. Ratified 2/3/1870. 1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.
If the power to deny the right to vote was legal then each court order would include a statement to that fact. Now even if the Constitution was changed to allow removal of citizenship rights it could not, by law, be made retroactive. No law can be made retroactive to include actions that were not criminal at the time to be criminal by a new law. The law then if passed and ratified could only by used against future actions. So, those votes thrown out by the boards were in their own right illegal actions that may have swayed the vote to a different person. Additionally, would not taking taxes from an ex-felon and not allowing him/her to vote be taxation without representation? All words when taken out of context may seem to have other meanings but the rule of unambigeous word usage is simple…all reasonable men would arrive at the same meaning the framers had when the document was written.
In furtherance to that statement look at this amendment (14) which prevents any state from making any law denying any Constitutional rights. To date I have not seen any court sentence report state that a persons citizenship rights have been removed as a condition of punishment which would have been illegal except for treason.
Amendment 14 – Citizenship Rights. Ratified 7/9/1868.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
As a point of fact pertaining to the 14th a Supreme court case (Afroyim v. Rusk, 387 U.S. 253 (1967) set the following…
The basic point of the Supreme Court’s ruling in Afroyim v. Rusk was that the “citizenship clause” of the 14th Amendment to the US Constitution — while originally intended mainly to guarantee citizenship to freed Negro slaves and their descendants, and subsequently interpreted in Wong Kim Ark as conferring citizenship at birth to virtually everyone born in the US — had effectively elevated citizenship to the status of a constitutionally protected right. Hence, Congress had no right to pass a law which had the effect of depriving an American of his citizenship without his assent.
If Congress could not and cannot remove the rights of a citizen then it stands to reason a State cannot overturn the Constitution by passing a law which when reviewed by the Constitution would render it an illegal law.
To that end, I could find no mention of a state having the authority to even temporarily remove a citizens rights and then try to force that person to apply for reinstatement of these same rights. Further, it would seem to me (a complete lay person) that to ask the state to give back something they had no authority to remove would not make either action legal.
The exception to these rights and authorties may (and I emphaise may) be condoned in a military tribunal in which case the whole country would have been under full martial law (such as when Lincoln stopped the habes corpus rights) including the present day for the denial of voting to have been even remotely legal.
Little by little from the time of the founding of our county people have been programmed to believe that politicians are the “leaders” and that sovereignty is vested in them, not in “We the People” as individuals. Abraham Lincoln reminded people repeatedly of these basic founding principles–a country “of the people, by the people, for the people”. Lincoln also stated: “The people are the masters of both Congress and courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert it!”
Lincoln also stated: “The people are the masters of both Congress and courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert it!”
Yeah, but he said that LONG before he became President; once IN office, he had a rump Congress pass the War Powers Acts, which pervertedly and Unconstitutionally authorized Executive Orders, which he also used to imprison great multitudes, including reporters, for the duration of the War; in addition, many otherwise innocent people, using their Right of Free Speech, were imprisoned on charges as specious as “disagreeing with the President.” In addition, every president since has invoked the War Powers act to act as Unconstitutionally as he wills via the means of EO’s…which were then, and are now, completely Unconstitutional…for even though Lincoln meant it as a temporary wartime measure, it was seized upon as “precedent,” even though the Constitution itself contains NO “precedent” exception to itself. IOW, the Constitution, as written(not “as interpreted”) is the Supreme Law of the Land, and no “precedent” can alter or amend it one iota…otherwise, “precedent” would have been acknowledged as the Supreme Law of the Land in the document itself. Here’s what one of the F&F had to say about “precedent,” too, btw:
“It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. We hold this prudent jealousy to be the first duty of citizens, and one of the noblest characteristics of the late Revolution. The freeman of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened
itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. They saw all the consequences in the principle, and they avoided the consequences by denying the principle.”
— James Madison(1751-1836), Father of the Constitution for the USA, 4th US President
Source: “A Memorial and Remonstrance”, 1785: Works 1:163
Lincoln spoke out of both sides of his mouth on multiple occasions, especially regarding the issue of slavery:
“My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union. I shall do less whenever I shall believe what I am doing hurts the cause, and I shall do more whenever I shall believe doing more will help the cause.”
— Abraham Lincoln(1809-1865) 16th US President
Source: Letter to Horace Greeley, August 22, 1862
In sum, Lincoln was not the hero most of us today have been led to believe; you may wish, at some point, to apprise yourself of the facts revealed in DiLorenzo’s book, “The Real Lincoln.”
Bob Taylor says
Why is the SF mayor and others who are breaking this law not being arrested? They are guilty of the RICO act and moreover their crime is a felony.
A person (including a group of persons, business, organization or local government) commits a federal felony when he:
• assists an alien whom he should reasonably know is illegally in the U.S. or who lacks employment authorization, by transporting, sheltering, or assisting him to obtain employment,
• encourages that alien to remain in the U.S., by referring him to an employer, by acting as employer or agent for an employer in any way, or
• knowingly assists illegal aliens due to personal convictions.
Penalties upon conviction include criminal fines, imprisonment, and forfeiture of vehicles and real property used to commit the crime.
Anyone employing or contracting with an illegal alien without verifying his work authorization status is guilty of a misdemeanor. Aliens and employers violating immigration laws are subject to arrest, detention, and seizure of their vehicles or property. In addition, individuals or entities who engage in racketeering enterprises that commit (or conspire to commit) immigration-related felonies are subject to private civil suits for treble damages and injunctive relief.
Here are the law references.
In addition to the federal statutes summarized above, state laws and local ordinances controlling fair labor practices, workers compensation, zoning, safe housing and rental property, nuisance, licensing, street vending, and solicitations by contractors may also apply to activities that involve illegal aliens.
1. INA 274A(a)(1)(A).
2. INA 274A (a)(2).
3. INA 274B(a)(4).
4. INA 274A(a)(1)(B)(i).
5. 46 USC 8704, 8 CFR 274a.1(f), (h).
6. Jenkins v. INS, 108 F.3d 195, (9th Cir.1997).
7. 8 CFR 274a.1(g).
8. 52 Fed. Reg. 16219 (May 1, 1987).
9. 8 CFR 274a.2(b)(1)(iii).
10. 8 CFR 274a.1(l).
11. 8 CFR 274a.1(l)(1).
12. Seven Star Inc. v. U.S., 933 F. 2d 791 (9th Cir., 1991).
13. AFSC v. Thornburgh 961 F.2d 1405 (9th Cir. 1992), Intercommunity Center for Peace and Justice v. INS, 910 F.2d 42 (2nd Cir. 1990).
14. U.S. v. Merkt 794 F.2d 950 (5th Cir. 1986), cert. denied 480 US 946.
15. INA 275(d).
16. INA 274(a)(1)(A)(iii).
17. U.S. v. Lopez, 521 F.2d 437 (2nd Cir 1975), cert. denied 423 US 995.
18. U.S. v. Kim, F.3d —, 1999 WL 803256 (2nd Cir. Oct. 8, 1999).
19. INA 274(a)(3).
20. INA 274(a)(1)(A)(iv).
21. U.S. v. Oloyede, 982 F.2d 133 (4th Cir. 1992).
23. Vega-Murillo v. U.S., 247 F.2d 735 (9th Cir. 1957), cert. denied 357 U.S. 910.
24. U.S. v. Sanga, 967 F.2d 1332 (9th Cir. 1992).
25. 18 USCS 371.
26. 8 CFR 274a.9(b).
27. INA 274(c).
28. U.S. v. Ontoniel Vasquez-Alvarez, 176 F.3d 1294 (10th Cir.1999), cert. denied, SC 99-5643 (Oct. 4, 1999).
29. U.S. v. Brignoni-Ponce, 422 U.S. 873, 884-887 (1975).
30. 63 ALR Fed.180.
31. INA 274(a), (b)(1).
32. 18 USC 1961-1968.
33. 26 USCS 7206.
34. INA 274B(d).
It is way past time for California to fall off into the Ocean.
Myles V says
Do you people ever read the articles or just the first couple of lines and the headline!!!
This vote is to allow non citizen parents with kids in schools to vote in school elections! LoL
These would include anyone living here through work or illegally or visas!
it is obvious that the Dem’s and kilary will do anything to get elected,The San Francisco Board of Supervisors need to wake the f**k up and for once do what is better for the United States for a change, Dump killary klinton and get that anti American and his family that is home steadying in the off white house out of there. Then we can get Mr. Trump in there and put the USA back were it needs to be…………
Shirley Cairme-Garcia says
Our president is a democrat, the mayor in SF is a democrat. They will do everything even if it a criminal act or against the Constitution to make Hillary win. They will make the illegals to vote for Hillary and the prisoners too. Power corrupts. They become dishonest people. If they will not be able to pay for their wrongdoings here, GOD will ask some of HIS angels to make them suffer in hell. I pray to God that HE should give them some lessons now for their wrongdoing so they change for the better, but HIS will be done.
Phillip R. Lake says
Californication (esp. San Francisco) along with New York City and Chicago are the very reason that everything negative in morality, decency and honesty no longer exist in this broken country.
The Democratic Party has changed. It has become the party of victimization and depends heavily on that class of people to continue to keep it relevant. That’s why so many party officials want to give illegals, convicts, no ID to vote. Americans are becoming disillusioned with the progressive part that leans heavily toward socialism. Openly attacks our constitution, 1st, 2nd,4th and 6th amendments. Wants to bring people from other countries with ideologies far different from our own and Evan dangerous and then accuses us of not having diversity. It pits race against race, gender against gender and then pushes the envelope of base and disgusting sexual practices as normal behavior and accuses those of not accepting as intolerant bigots. Many of the people that still support this party are inept or willfully so or just don’t care.
I’m not concerned about the illegal immigrants voting. Everyone assumes that they will vote for Hillary. I’m not so sure.
They want to become citizens, they risked their lives to come here for freedom not to be supported by an angry hag who wants to give them the crumbs of what the U.S. can offer.
The illegals connect with working immigrants who know that Trump is their only hope also.
Otherwise, who wants to live under Sharia Law where killing people of different beliefs and lifestyles is legal?
The Constitution of the United States means nothing.
The State Constitution means nothing.
Now you understand La Raza and the whole of why Trump stood about about the Judge who is a full fledged La Raza Member:
Behind the respectable front of the National Council of La Raza lies the real agenda of the La Raza movement, the agenda that led to those thousands of illegal immigrants in the streets of American cities, waving Mexican flags, brazenly defying our laws, and demanding concessions.
Key among the secondary organizations is the radical racist group Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan, or Chicano Student Movement of Aztlan (MEChA), one of the most anti-American groups in the country, which has permeated U.S. campuses since the 1960s, and continues its push to carve a racist nation out of the American West.
One of America’s greatest strengths has always been taking in immigrants from cultures around the world, and assimilating them into our country as Americans. By being citizens of the U.S. we are Americans first, and only, in our national loyalties. This is totally opposed by MEChA for the hordes of illegal immigrants pouring across our borders, to whom they say:
“Chicano is our identity; it defines who we are as people. It rejects the notion that we…should assimilate into the Anglo-American melting pot…Aztlan was the legendary homeland of the Aztecas … It became synonymous with the vast territories of the Southwest, brutally stolen from a Mexican people marginalized and betrayed by the hostile custodians of the Manifest Destiny.” (Statement on University of Oregon MEChA Website, Jan. 3, 2006)
MEChA isn’t at all shy about their goals, or their views of other races. Their founding principles are contained in these words in “El Plan Espiritual de Aztlan” (The Spiritual Plan for Aztlan):
“In the spirit of a new people that is conscious not only of its proud historical heritage but also of the brutal gringo invasion of our territories, we, the Chicano inhabitants and civilizers of the northern land of Aztlan from whence came our forefathers, reclaiming the land of their birth and consecrating the determination of our people of the sun, declare that the call of our blood is our power, our responsibility, and our inevitable destiny. … Aztlan belongs to those who plant the seeds, water the fields, and gather the crops and not to the foreign Europeans. … We are a bronze people with a bronze culture. Before the world, before all of North America, before all our brothers in the bronze continent, we are a nation, we are a union of free pueblos, we are Aztlan. For La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada.”
That closing two-sentence motto is chilling to everyone who values equal rights for all. It says: “For The Race everything. Outside The Race, nothing.”
If these morally sickening MEChA quotes were coming from some fringe website, Americans could at least console themselves that it was just a small group of nuts behind it. Nearly every racial and ethnic group has some shady characters and positions in its past and some unbalanced individuals today claiming racial superiority and demanding separatism. But this is coming straight from the official MEChA sites at Georgetown University, the University of Texas, UCLA, University of Michigan, University of Colorado, University of Oregon, and many other colleges and universities around the country.
MEChA was in fact reported to be one of the main organizers of those street demonstrations we witnessed over the past weeks. That helps explain why those hordes of illegal immigrants weren’t asking for amnesty — they were demanding an end to U.S. law, period. Unlike past waves of immigrants who sought to become responsible members of American society, these protesters reject American society altogether, because they have been taught that America rightfully belongs to them.
MEChA and the La Raza movement teach that:
Oregon and parts of Washington State
make up an area known as “Aztlan” — a fictional ancestral homeland of the Aztecs before Europeans arrived in North America. As such, it belongs to the followers of MEChA. These are all areas America should surrender to “La Raza” once enough immigrants, legal or illegal, enter to claim a majority, as in Los Angeles. The current borders of the United States will simply be extinguished.
This plan is what is referred to as the “Reconquista” or reconquest, of the Western U.S.
But it won’t end with territorial occupation and secession. The final plan for the La Raza movement includes the ethnic cleansing of Americans of European, African, and Asian descent out of “Aztlan.”
As Miguel Perez of Cal State-Northridge’s MEChA chapter has been quoted as saying: “The ultimate ideology is the liberation of Aztlan. Communism would be closest [to it]. Once Aztlan is established, ethnic cleansing would commence: Non-Chicanos would have to be expelled — opposition groups would be quashed because you have to keep power.”
Members of these radical, anti-American, racist organizations are frequently smoothly polished into public respectability by the National Council of La Raza.
Former MEChA members:
include Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, who was officially endorsed by La Raza for mayor and was awarded La Raza’s Graciela Olivarez Award. Now we know why he refuses to condemn a sea of foreign flags in his city.
California Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante is also a former MEChA member. He delivered the keynote address at La Raza’s 2002 Annual Convention.
The National Council of La Raza and its allies in public office make no repudiation of the radical MEChA and its positions. In fact, as recently as 2003, La Raza was actively funding MEChA, according to federal tax records.
Imagine Robert Byrd’s refusing to disavow the views of the KKK, or if Strom Thurmond had failed to admit segregation was wrong. Imagine Heritage or Brookings Foundation making grants to the American Nazi Party.
Is the National Council of La Raza itself a racist organization? Regardless of the organization’s suspect ties, the majority of its members are not. When one examines all the organization’s activities, they are commendable non-profit projects, such as education and housing programs.
But even these defensible efforts raise the question of whether education and housing programs funded with federal tax dollars should be used in programs specifically targeted to benefit just one ethnic group.
La Raza defenders usually respond by calling anyone making these allegations “a racist” for having called attention to La Raza’s racist links. All the groups and public officials with ties to the La Raza movement can take a big step towards disproving these allegations by simply following the examples of Senators Byrd and Thurmond and repenting of their past ways.
If they are unwilling to admit past misdeeds, they can at least state — unequivocally — that they officially oppose the racist and anti-American positions of MEChA, and any other groups that espouse similar views.
Through public appearances, written statements, and on their respective websites, La Raza groups and allies must:
1. Denounce the motto “For La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada,” as repugnant, racist, and totally incompatible with American society or citizenship.
2. Acknowledge the right of all Americans to live wherever they choose in the U.S. without segregation.
3. Commit to sponsorship of nationwide educational programs to combat racism and anti-Semitism in the Hispanic community.
4. Denounce and sever all ties with MEChA and any other organizations with which they have ever been associated which held to the racist doctrines held by MEChA.
5. Acknowledge the internationally recognized borders of the U.S., the right of the citizens of the U.S. to determine immigration policy through the democratic process, and the right of the U.S. to undertake any and all necessary steps to effectively enforce immigration law and defend its border against unauthorized entry.
6. Repudiate all claims that current American territory rightfully belongs to Mexico.
If the National Council of La Raza, other La Raza groups, and local and national political leaders with past ties and associations with the radical elements of the La Raza movement can publicly issue such a statement and live by every one of these principles, they should be welcomed into the American public policy arena, with past sins — real or imaginary — forgiven.
If they cannot publicly and fully support these principles, Congress needs to take appropriate steps and immediately bar any group refusing to comply from receiving any future federal funds. Both the House and Senate should strike these groups from testifying before any committees, and the White House should sever all ties. Both political parties should disengage from any further contact with these groups and individuals.
There are plenty of decent, patriotic Hispanic organizations and elected officials to provide Congress with necessary feedback on specific issues confronting Americans of Latino heritage. Any group or individual who can agree with the simple six points should be welcomed into that fold.
If not, the American people will know there’s a wolf in their midst, and take the necessary precautions to defend our Republic against an enemy.
WAKE UP AMERICA
Very well written.
i had little idea that these are the goals of the radical wing of the La Raza movement, though i expected something similar.
Their claims are ridiculous, in addition to being openly racist, xenophobic, and anti-American.
i believe that any and all illegals in the La Raza movement and all it’s affiliates should be arrested and deported asap, possibly with some kind of marker that would bar them a second chance at becoming an American.
OTOH, i believe that those currently holding reins of power understand the following quite well:
Rome fell September 4, 476AD.
It was overrun with illegal immigrants: Visigoths, Franks, Anglos, Saxons, Ostrogoths, Burgundians, Lombards, Jutes and Vandals, who at first assimilated and worked as servants, but then came so fast they did not learn the Latin Language or the Roman form of government.
Highly trained Roman Legions, moving rapidly on their advanced road system, were strained fighting conflicts worldwide. Rome had a trade deficit, having outsourced most of its grain production to North Africa, and when Vandals captured that area, Rome did not have the resources to retaliate. Attila the Hun was committing terrorist attacks. The city of Rome was on welfare with citizens being given free bread. One Roman commented:
“Those who live at the expense of the public funds are more numerous than those who provide them.” Tax collectors were “more terrible than the enemy.”
Gladiators provided violent entertainment in the Coliseum. There was injustice in courts, exposure of unwanted infants, infidelity, immorality and perverted bathhouses. 5th-Century historian Salvian wrote: “O Roman people, be ashamed… Let nobody think otherwise, the vices of our bad lives have alone conquered us.”
i believe it more likely than not that certain eschelons of the USG are intending to repeat history asap, and have been working diligently to accelerate the numbers of immigrants, legal AND illegal, for this very reason, as noted above(specifically, “It was overrun with illegal immigrants: Visigoths, Franks, Anglos, Saxons, Ostrogoths, Burgundians, Lombards, Jutes and Vandals, who at first assimilated and worked as servants, but then came so fast they did not learn the () language or the () form of government”).. They WANT the American Empire to crumble and fall. The OWG/NWO types have no use whatsoever for those who believe their Rights come from God, and that individuals are to be protected in their lives, liberties, and property. There is no such thing as a “collective” save in statistic-land, but it’s easier to exterminate people if they can be demonized as a group, and the rest can be convinced that it’s good to exterminate a certain “collective” group “for the good of”(the nation, La Raza, the Party, the excuse-du-jour).
Thanks for pointing out yet ANOTHER danger within our borders – one with which, i have little doubt, Trump intends to deal. He’ll probably make them an offer similar to the solutions you propose above, and when they refuse? Ok, bye-bye velvet glove, here comes the steel fist! I can almost hear the “Yoink” as such as these are yanked up by their collars and sent south on buses to re-create Mexico itself, not America.
Jeane Green says
Illegal liens committed a felony by their illegal entry.
While US prohibits US citizens/felons from voting in many states, somehow foreigners (yes, illegal aliens are just that – FOREIGNERS) should have an advantage in this matter ? What a moronic way to reward criminals for their criminal act.
I have seen a lot of post here concerning the Constitution as well as the Bill of Rights. Believe me I am no expert concerning this and maybe I have been thinking wrong, but it seems to me that Congress can do anything it chooses and do it legally via Article V of the Constitution which says: “The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution”. I’m not trying to throw a wrench in the gears at all, but to me this says that Congress can amend us out of a Constitution if they so choose. Therefore, we had better make sure that whoever we put in office across the Country, is well vetted. I have never relished Article V and I do hope someone can help my understanding to a greater degree. Obviously, I did not copy the entirety of the statement here, but only the pertinent part.
You’re right, they MAYBE could; remember what happened when they used that power to make alcohol illegal? Didn’t last too long, did it?
Perhaps our People recalled ol’ Ben Franklin’s “Beer is proof God loves us and wants us to be happy!”
There’s also a provision in there(Article 5) that if 2/3’rds of the States decide to Amend the Constitution, they also may do so…completely bypassing Congress itself. A necessary precaution, considering the possibility that evil men may take office. Of course, 3/4’s of the States would need to ratify it before it became Law. i think there’s a Convention of States right now attempting to hash out a term limits amendment, among others; you know damn well that CONgress(emphasis on the CON) is not about to write laws that end their gravy train!
Thank you Constitutionalist. I was hoping that you would reply and you have also confirmed my thoughts concerning Article V…….. SCARY!
Just as freedom isn’t free, true liberty is never without fear. Until the return of Christ, there will always be bullies and tyrants who wish to steal your liberty and disturb your peace – whether physical animals like bears, or predatory animals pretending to be humans. The Liar comes to mind, here.
Remember, when you hear those promises of peace and security, then comes sudden destruction, according to the bible.