The care of our nation’s veterans under President Barack Obama has been appalling — and recent outrageous reports from Florida shows it’s only getting worse.
A news report says that staff at a Veterans Affairs hospital in Florida discarded the corpse of a veteran in a shower and left it to fester throughout the day after the veteran had died alone and proper pickup procedures to the morgue weren’t followed.
The Tampa Bay Times on Sunday reported that an internal investigation concluded that staff at the Bay Pines VA Healthcare System in the Tampa Bay area failed to provide appropriate post-mortem care to the veteran’s body.
The investigative report said that leaving the body unattended for so long increased the chance of decomposition, essentially desecrating the body of this elderly veteran.
The unnamed veteran died in February after spending time in hospice care.
Comment below with “Hold Obama responsible!” if you agree this desecration of veterans is wrong!
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The veteran and only veteran this should be left to rot is BARRAK OBOZO.
veteran of WHAT???
Veteran of a constant war on the United States, our military, Christianity and the Constitution!
Ric–You are exactly correct !!
AMEN TO “ASK’S” COMMENT !!!
MY 95 YR. OLD HUSBAND IS A DISABLED WW11 VETERAN, A SURVIVOR OF D-DAY, HAS 2 PURPLE HEARTS !!! OBAMA MAKES ME SICK THE WAY HE TREATS THE VETS, IF IT WASN’T FOR THESE VETERANS, HE WOULDN’T EVEN BE HERE, LET ALONE THE PREZ.!!!
veteran of the Military, oh, you voted for obama.
“I” saw this coming the day BHO’s name was announced to the world that he was a candidate for Pres. It has come out exactly like “I” firmly believed it would! Now there is a mess that may never be recovered from! This is what nations get when they do not have the Light of Jesus Christ to guide them in these troubled times! what can be expected when nations vote to install and “ILLEGAL” and foreigner from Kenya! the signs of destruction were there, BUT who listened? Some did, but many did not! SEE Genesis 9:20-27 KJV This FACT has always been true and will continue to be so! “STUPID DUMB ASSES! 2 Peter 2:16/Numbers 22:21-34 KJV This Nation is to “GO” and did not, taking the wrong “WAY” and so NOW, we may not recover, except this nation “REPENT” of its nation sin, and return to the “OLD PATHS” of Jeremiah 6:16 KJV! “CONSIDER”!!!
Are you a FN idiot…a veteran of an armed force that fought inWWII!!!
My question exactly. He hasn’t served one day serving this country.
Veteran of community organization and the National Association of Mommy Jeans.
Obama is not a veteran. he served in nothing actually including the position he held at the White House.
Hussein Obumdo is only veteran of the golf links — he never was near an air base or a recruitment office to serve in the military. He should be left to rot in the 18th hole.
The only Good Obamao is one that has assumed room temperature – The Sooner The Better!!
NO, not there! I might be one of the next foursome to play that hole. He’d block our play and stink up the area.
Well said!!
I agree whole hardily
Yes sir, he only cares about other country’s all muslim. can not wait 39 more days of this pig in chief, thank God the other Pig KILLARY lost or we would be up craps creek without a paddle.
This on top of the story of a veteran with an open wound was not properly taken care of changing the bandage and cleaning got maggots in the wound and ended up dying. Another example of Obama’s hatred for our Veterans. I wish him the same kind of death and then be thrown in a shower and left to decompose. He is the worst president in history. I wish he would fade away never to raise his UN American head again.
Believe it or not , hospitals have used maggots to clean out dead tissue from wounds , and the hospital where I work has used leeches to draw oxygenated blood to the surface of a wound to aid in healing.
But that is completely different from these intolerable , disgraceful ways our Veterans are being treated. Our veterans have Sacrificed their lives for us and are HEROES ! And should be treated accordingly ! ODUMMY is a DISGRACE !! Thank the Lord that Mr Donald J Trump was elected. Things will change for the better for ALL of us , but in particular , our HEROES ~~~our VETERANS !! THANK YOU FOR YOUR LOYALTY TO OUR COUNTRY. RIP.
the turdface bastard is no vet i say dump his ass at sea infested with sharks
No one should be treated this way – NO ONE. Down with Obama, his racism and his destruction of a once peaceful and caring country. Inter racial hatred has blossomed under Obama.
Got that right
The fact that that a body of a brother/sister of mine was left in a shower to decompose automatically tells proper procedural wasn’t followed. What other facts are you waiting for? Are you waiting for them to say he died in the shower and nobody knew? That is just as bad. He was in hospice care, the VA should have knew where he/she was at all times. Grady Hospital in Atlanta some years ago let people die in the hallways and just left them there. The staff and hospital trustees were replaced. No particular person was blamed. Do you think they waited until they had “all the facts”? People were terminated simply for not following procedure. You need to follow your own quote and realize the facts are already in and you need to let it in. Do I blame Obama, yes but I also blame other Presidents Republican and Democrat alike. Things like this has been going on too long to just blame one particular President.
YES , I agree, this has been on going more than 8 yrs, an any sitting potus could have stopped this non-cense, but none did. including , he says the southern whites, think of him as a foreigner , well this pretty much backs up that fact. he could have STEP UP to the plate some where in his 8 yrs, an done something, an of course so could all of the others, before him, bush an bush an clinton an regan. nixon. This is their same all of them, for talking all this chest puffing , these are our hero,s on VETERANS DAY an 4th of JULY, an then just drop the ball, it is all TALK an NO DO. One of the TOP PRIORITIES of any POTUS, should be the VETERANS an the VA. an to in the surface items, VA LOANS an WA PAID SCHOOLING, but VETERANS HEALTH CARE, 100% just like the loans. NO SKIMPING an SHORTCUTTING, 100% FULL CARE. These people are HUMANS, an it time they be treated as HUMANS
GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU VETERANS an MERRY CHRISTMAS
309,000 Have died since Obumfuc took office and yes there r other who should be blamed as well all the way back to the POTUS after Lincoln.
Agreed. The sad thing is that Bush warned Obama that the VA was FUBAR. (I’m not defending Bush either. He could have done something before he left office). Obama has made it pretty obvious he doesn’t care about the military. I have not forgotten that he blocked off the WWII open air memorial just because he could but didn’t have any issue with some illegal aliens giving a speech on the Mall; another open air memorial.
You have not put the blame where it really belongs !!! The liberal congress has never made any attempt to fix this age old problem that gets worse each year as more veterans become I’ll and in need of real health care and constant housing in nursing homes and assisted living facility s !!! As a homeless vet. I spent some time in a assisted living facility and saw much that could be improved !!( this is not the right forum ) its time to look more deeply and bend a few Congressmen’s ears until there is a change for the better !!( one ear needs more than bending ! For as a vetreran he is a part of the real problem !! By voting against the veterans this year ) !!!!
AS much as I dislike “Willy Wonka” I can’t blame him for this issue. Veterans have been receiving substandard care for years and no one really seemed to care except fellow Veterans. Once the facts are in there needs to be a cleansing of those who don’t follow procedures and let them work in a garbage processing plant instead of a hospital. I call him Willy Wonka because he lives in a fantasy world and has no grip on reality.
willy Wonka ? do you refer to Obamass ?Any one that would tall a rate this kind of abuse to our vets need to be tar and feathered and run out of the so called government. And some one or all of them invaded need to be fired. No severance pay, no deals. just fired. not even a letter of recommendation. Also a note to why they were fired should be attached to there res-a-may.
George — You probably already know this but just in case you don’t — our government has been mistreating veterans since WWI. Yes — it started that long ago and has escalated to the point where we are at now. You see — we are only necessary when fighting the wars these POS politicians instigate but afterwards we become an unnecessary burden until the next war. The politicians who head the VA agency and their subordinates couldn’t care less about any of us just as long as they get their bonuses at the end of the year for doing exactly nothing. I’m not saying that every VA hospital is bad but even one like this one in Florida sheds a very bad light on all of them. There are too many VA employees at the present time who just don’t give a f—. about the Veterans and are just collecting a paycheck.
I completely agree…..we don’t need VA institutions, a veteran should be able to walk into any health care facility on any day and receive care.
My own father, a WWII POW, had to travel 100 miles to receive VA care back in the ’80s….what a joke that was. Then they’d be given doctors that spoke broken English. WE haven’t stood up for our vet’s and until WE do, nothing is going to change.
You r right on as far as the doctors go. So many r from India, Iran. Etc. Many care less about a veteran. I am a vet. Wonder why they can only get foreigners and minorities to work there. Signed, a vet
agreed , VA employees are civil servants and it is very hard to fire them and they never admitt a mistake . damn shame !
I think Trump should appoint Sarah Palin to head up the VA. “Momma Bear” had no problem cleaning out corruption in Alaska that scared the hell out of Republicans and democrats. She doesn’t need to be a veteran to understand how to clean up the mess left by previous directors and Obutthead.
The Commander In Chief is ultimately responsible for any, and everything to do with the care of veterans. One of the biggest problems is the lack of care, and/or attention of the American public. John McCain, (and many others of course) comes to mind in this matter! He is a veteran and former POW. He has been in congress for 30+ years. He is the head of a committee that addresses Veteran issues! The worst system in the VA is in the Phoenix area! So, someone PLEASE tell me how that POS got reelected to office. There is a different name in every state who fits this description. WE NEED TO BE MORE CAREFUL WHOM WE ELECT TO OFFICE! IF WE DO NOT THE STORY WILL REMAIN THE SAME!! GOD BLESS THOSE WHO SERVE!
They are the ones who write themselves up for big bonuses every year in addition to their 5 figure or 6 figure salaries, living fat hog lives and laughing all the way to the bank while vets suffer and even die due to their hard-hearted lack of concern. I am a retired 28 year military guy and haven’t gone to a VA clinic for many years. Service always seems to get worse under a Demonrat Administration.
I am a veteran of the Air Force. Fortunately I was never in harms way as I served from 1956 till 1960. I volunteered. I was injured in 1958 which basically destroyed hearing in my right ear. I have been trying for the last 5 years of Appeals to get some satisfaction as far as benefits are concerned but the VA non-leadership has given me the run-a-round. I know they are busy and many more serious cases deserve priority but taking this long to settle a claim almost 60 years old is rideclous . I do not blame the President. I blame the incompetent VA leadership. They have a life time government job, no preformance required, and are suckling from the government teat. I sincerely hope if President Trump is serious about re-vamping the VA he starts by firing every SOB that works there and let the good ones re-apply for their jobs. President Reagan did this with the Air Controllers who threated to bring America to a stand still. None of those people ever got their jobs back. Any VA replacements would be an improvement. Les
AGREE
MY HUSBAND WENT DEAF FROM BEING IN TANKS WITHOUT EAR PLUGS. WHEN HE GOT BAD ENOUGH FOR HEARING AIDE HE WENT TO VA HOSPITSAL IN HOUSTON, TEXAS TOLD THEM HIS NAME AND ARMY NUMBER THEY GAVE HIM A HEARINGAIDE AND 25P DOLLARS A MONTH FOR LIFE.
GOOD LUCK, GO IN PERSON AND RAISE HELL UNTIL YOU SEE A DOCTOR
Love the thought! I had run ins with those air controllers every week until they Dissapeared!
Les: Not long ago, the VA gave free hearing aids out. I was aware of this b/c I was in a chat room that several vets were in & they all talked about the free hearing aids that they got from the VA. One fellow was in CA & the other was in WA State.
wait, the people that are the higher up’s will be receiving their bonus check for job well down, they should take those bonus checks and get more equipment that is needed to other hospitals through out the country. this administration doesn’t care what happens to our Vet’s or our Military, elderly or disabled.
This is a disgrace to all Veterans, and Americans everywhere. The people involved should be fired, they knew protocol and didn’t follow it. They are obviously not veterans and don’t belong working for the Veterans Administration ! The V. A. should not employ such non-Respecting people. These sorry low life scums of the earth people, don’t deserve the freedom that Veterans make possible for all Americans ! And Yes I am a Veteran and proud to have served this country. God Bless the service men and women that are serving right now in combat. Not a day goes by I don’t remember and pray for them ! I honor them at all times, There is a close bond that every Veteran has with other veterans. It’s a Brotherhood like no other ! I’m sick of people disgracing our flag, country, and our way of life. We really need to rid our country of dangerous illegals and illegals period ! There is a right way to become a citizen, and if they don’t want to do it right then, we should deport them period. While they are illegals, they are Criminals, felons, and prohibited from being here, and the muslims should not be here BY LAW MADE BY CONGRESS IN 1952 PROHIBIT’S THEM FROM EVEN BEING IN THE USA. PRESIDENT JIMMY CARTER WAS THE LAST TO ENFORCE IT, IN THE IRAN HOSTAGE CRISIS !
Chris – U.S. Army 1993 to 1998. I am really turned inside out with the way Obama has been treating the Veterans and our Military today. His concern has been about giving large amounts of our money to IRAN and to Cuba not to mention how many more must have received including ISIS. Obama has been siding with ISIS; illegals; refugees from the start. Our Veterans have been ignored. They have been committing suicide from lack of Medical Attention. How many other presidents have done the same, I really do not know. Unless it comes out in the news, we won’t know. Obama has been traveling abroad and locally using Air Force One including while Killary was running. Let me not continue about all the criminal acts that she has been committing. Now, If you have something to say about Obama, why don’t you write to him and tell him. He needs to learn how bent out of shape we are from a legitimate reason. He thinks that he has done an excellent job. I would like to know when? Anyway, stop blaming other presidents prior to the present one until you learn about it. Thank you.
Obummer has done an excellent job, an excellent job at decimating the Constitution, the economy, the military, our veterans, etc…. EVERYTHING that he’s done has been by design… he hates our Country, our Military, Christianity, our founding, our prospperity, our Constitution and especially WE THE PEOPLE! Obummer has been committing TREASON on a daily basis since January 20th 2009!
This crap is going to change under Trump…..you can bet your sweet @zz when crap like this happens, there will be people FIRED and rightly so….starting with the Administrative Staff themselves. This really ticks me off.
the administration needs all to be fired from the gate. they can clam all they wont, that they were only fallowing orders. But as a civil servant they do not have to fallow an order that is wrong. They know better.They only care about there pay checks. Let some one else do the dirty work.
It’s their attitudes! They treat veterans and seniors in general as “garbage”.
Those are the reasons my Veteran husband refused to go to the VA Hispital in Dallas. A few years before he died we read in the Dallas Morning News about them finding uncared for dead Vets in their beds for Lord knows how long. Yes a has got to come to a halt. If Donald Trump can’t stop it then he lied to us like all of the rest of them. My husband was a Navy Vet Master Chief Boatswainmate 21 years of service. I saw to it he got the best care available in Civilian Hospitals. Yes it cost me lots of money but he was watched over all of the time.
There are plenty of people who would love to have their job and are better qualified. Fire them along with their boss Obo
If the accusations of king Obama desecrating a VA Hero is true, he should be charged for TREASON and when found guilty in a true, Constitutional, court of law execute the trader. To not stop the crimes Obama has committed is treason. As much as comrade Barack, Hillary, their cronies and fellow Fabian, all those who have taken their oath of office with their fingers crossed be hind their backs and proceed to destroy our nation, need to be exterminated as the vermin they are.
On the flip side; I’m ALL in on fallowing and enforcing the Constitution. We need freedom of speech, the press, and Religion. But if journalist, politicians, and “spin doctors” in the media use slander and libel need to be stoped and punished. If we were to send, a half dozen deceptive journalist, ALL the lying politicians, and the “spin Doctors” in the media to prison for a few years, I believe, the media would clean up instantly.
We need to close ALL VA hospitals. Have the V.A. pay for the veterans to go to the Health Care facility of their choice. It would be much cheaper and our Heroes would get better care. The V.A. Hospitals are government run. That makes them incompetent and over priced. YOU should have to go to the V.A. for your healthcare, then you could die.
Different subject: Give Each legislator line item veto. That could curb the moral compromises they are routinely forced into. I know the bad guys wouldn’t like that idea.
All I can say is to those oath breaker, save taxpayers some money on your trial and just put a gun in you mouth and fire the weapon.
The facts are that when Hittler killed millions of Jews the US called that genocide. When Hussein killed 270,000 of his own people in Iraq the US called it genocide. 250,000 Vietnam Vets with HEP C are waiting on the pill created at a VA called Harvoni and 309,000 Vets have died waiting on care since your all’s King took office the US calls that to DAMN EXPENSIVE!!!
I am with you about closing all VA hospitals. Any time the governments hands are involved in anything it is a disaster. Give every veteran a credit card that he or she can present to any hospital or doctor for care. That’s it. This is already done with people on welfare. The hospital or doctor just bills the government. The cost of maintaining the VA hospitals is enormous on top of the wages for all the civil service employees plus their benefits. Totally unnecessary and a liberals dream boondoggle.
There will be little change until cival servants are removed from unions. Politicians will never enforce these punishments because the government unions mostly support the dems. Get rid of some of the cival servece personnel and have vets only working for the VA administran.
Drs and nurses do a good job, administrators are the problem
You TALk about evidence why dont you look into tha complete DISREGARD by the VA to protect our Veterans. One Veteran was neglected so bad that he had sores on his body that were neglected by the staff at the VA so bad that he had maggots in those sores. There is no defense of that. Under the Obama Administration they are more worried about getting Muslims from countries that hate us in here and allowing illegal aliens to get benefits that Americans pay for then using those funds to help our vets who fought for our country, lost limbs, and died for America. If the media would do their job and defend our vets in stead of defending all of the illegal aliens coming into our country maybe just maybe our Veterans would be taken care of. MY HUSBAND IS A VETERAN AND THIS MAKES ME SICK..
The first point i’d like to make is that the headline is wrong. What, “Outage” as in “power outage”?
Second, of COURSE someone should be fired. Let’s start with the director of the Tampa Bay facility – who either knew or should have known – as well as the two or more people who tossed the body in the shower, as well as every employee who also knew or should have known that the body was left there to rot.
That should be enough.
But if/when the matter comes to the attention of Trump, he may decide to replace ALL of the employees there, as an object lesson to everyone ELSE in the VA system, that there’s a new sheriff in town, and things ain’t gonna be the same no mo’.
I am an Army Vet who had to go to a veteran hospital in Denver.
This was years past and there’s no real need to give any morbid details so I will forgo them.
But they didn’t treat me with any real respect the entire time I was there, so I can say I have first hand info.
It does happen all the time.
I am to the point that one of the things I can’t abide is a professional that is supposed to better something but intentional makes it worse.
THE PERSON WHO PUT THE BODY OUTSIDE SHOULD BE FIRED AND ARRESTED FOR DISRESPECTING A BODY, SPECIALLY A VETERAN. OBAMA HAS NO USE FOR VETERANS AT ALL AS ACTIONS HAVE PROVED. VETERAN BODY SHOULD NOT BE LEFT ALONG SOMWONE SHOULD BE WITH IT UNTIL PICKED UP. WE NEED TO SHUT ALL THE WOTHLESS VA AND LET THEM GO TO HOSPITAL OF THEIR CHOICE.
The only VA Hospitals that get a top rating are the ones in the Boston region and in NY. Otherwise, they are a disgrace. If the sons and daughters of congressmen, the wealthy or politically powerful served in the military then our wars would be over quick and our VA Hospitals would surpass Johns Hopkins, Cleveland Clinic or Massachusetts General. Instead the poor and working class mostly serve. The phony elitists in power don’t care about working people.
Remember that not a single offspring of any senator, congressman ever served in Viet Nam
WRONG!!!!! John McCain Son of Senator McCain and now a Senator Himself flew with VFA 127 was shot down and spent time in a POW Camp! When the cong found out who he was they were going to release him, But LT McCain refused to be released till the one’s there before him was released! GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT OR KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT!
YOU SHOULD PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH. SENATOR MCCAIN’S FATHER WAS THE COMMANDER IN CHIEF PACIFIC FLEET IN HAWAII, WHEN LT MCCAIN SERVED IN VIET NAM
You’re right. McCain’s father and grandfather were both 4 star Admirals but neither one of them served in any political office, to the best of my knowledge.
Exactly!! McCain’s father and grand dad were big timers in the Navy. McCain didn’t become a Senator until many, many years after the war.
I believe there is some discrepancy with your story. McCain did serve and he was captured but there are details that you have omitted.
Right. Some very important details.
Yer right, Max.
Get close to McCain and say “Hey, Songbird,” then watch his reaction.
Main Street, I would add the VA facilities here, in Cincinnati Region, have been the most diligent and helpful organizations I’ve been pleased to encounter. Of course we also have the Cincinnati IRS, so no, I’m not an Obama fan. I have always been treated courteously and promptly in the unit I use. A short encounter in a civilian hospital in New Jersey, after an auto accident, had me begging to be transferred to a military facility. Q. “Why do you want to go to that old Army hospital?” Ans. “Because in the few hours I have been in here with painful injuries, twice the nurse/orderly has run my gurney in to walls, and then left me, for 2 hours one time, in the hall where I was completely ignored.”
try using the VA facilities in AZ. Good luck even being seen in under 2 years.
And that is the state where McCain impersonates a senator.
I would have to agree that for the most part, VA care is as good and in some cases superior to public hospitals and clinics. I have received VA care since 1999 and could have received it sooner since I was discharged in 1958 and had employer paid insurance. While can only speak of the care I received from the outpatient clinic and the Olin Teague medical facilities in Texas I have no knowledge of other areas. I am truly blessed to have VA care.
NO! I’m not a fan of the present administration and agree Obama, should be held accountable for failures in the system, but then he has not been held accountable for anything else…just as it was with HRC it is always someone else’s fault.
Proud to have served and proud of VA care
To be a politician or government employee they should be required to have served at least 2 years s on the active military
Hold Obama responsible ! ! !
YES HOLD OBAMA RESPONSIBLE HE CARES NOTHING ABOUT OUR VETERANS WHICH HAS BEEN SHOWN BY THEIR CARE ETC. – THIS IS DISCUSTING.
Good luck with making Obama take responsibility for this travesty! He and his administration have done nothing but talk about fixing this on-going problem and what do they do-they give bonuses to those who need to be prosecuted!
To late to impeach but not to file charges and put them in jail. congress can remove his power to give them freedom of charges
Its shameful but there will be a day that will be joyful for OUR SAVIOR WILL JUDGE THESE THAT ARE EVIL.
AMEN !!
Elizabeth-
OUR SAVIOR WILL JUDGE THESE THAT ARE EVIL.
All of us, without exception, will be weighed in the balances. Those who claim Christ yet disobey Him are far more likely to be held to a higher standard. His words will neither be gainsaid nor invalidated, never. Ever:
“As ye sow, so shall ye reap.”
“Give, and it will be given unto you.”
“As ye would that men do unto you, do also unto them.”
“With the measure that ye mete, it shall be measured unto you again.”
Only the foolish and self-deceived believe that His words no longer apply to them, not least of which because they “got saved.” Our God is Love, but He is also Just.
YES!!!!
I agree, and was glad to see that the title of this article ties Obama’s name to the evil deed being discussed.
We need to do that consistently.
Yes he should be. He hates the Military and our Vets. However found the vet and did nothing should be fired. No different than Obama. Didn’t care. It is sickening how they treat our Vets..
HE NEVER SERVED.
Obama has never had any respect for our military
The policies of a Communist-Socialist at it’s finest…. It’s OK for his ILLEGAL family member to accept tax payer subsidized housing and other assistance for 20+ years though. Just another example of do as I say and not as I do.
Obama the greatest illegal fraud of all time. He and Clinton need to be in Gitmo for treason !
I suspect he would have been handled much better if he had been an illegal alien !!!
I would rather just cut off Obama’s ability to do anything than just hold him responsible. At present he really doesn’t care about anything as he considers himself untouchable. The buck does stop with him but he has a way of diverting everything that has come his say and is no even trying to divert the election loss by blaming everything and anything else but himself and his ilk. The oversight of the VA, those responsible from the person or persons who callously discarded this mans body, after he served the USA in the military, should be held responsible all the way up to the VA Administrators at that Facility and I am hoping that Trump will order their removal. That is only way things will change. Presently we have too many leaches in our government system that either have not been trained properly, will not do their jobs, practice discrimination, or just do not give a darn, and that has to be changed. We must get their attention and if they still refuse to live up to the promises that the USA made to our veterans then they need to be terminated for cause and new individuals employed who do care and will uphold the promises made to our veterans when they entered the services. The VA is not a parking place for 20 years for misfits and slugs on our system who will not live up to the promises made or denial of service when proof is provided of a condition that was caused while in the miltary.
You do have one fact wrong! “He doesn’t care about anything”…
Oh, yes…he DOES care that Hitlery didn’t get elected and that his crap-poor policies are and executive orders are going to be crushed!!!
Anything else…I agree…he doesn’t care!!
Well said, David Barron! I agree wholeheartedly! BHO is a disgrace to our country!!!
HOLD OBUMMER RESPONSIBLE.
For once make someone in the Government pay for what they do wrong !!
HE NEVER SERVED AND ISN’T A PATRIOT.
Neither is Obama an AMERICAN nor a LEGAL office holder!
Someday, perhaps 10 years from now, when O’Bumer is living in the Muslim country of his choice he will make and announcement. It will go like this: “You fools in America have had the biggest scam pulled on you in the history of America. TRUMP was right. I was born in Kenya and should never have been elected President. While you Americans, whom I do not consider myself as one, have kicked the shit out of my Muslim brothers and sisters by now, please know, I pulled the biggest scam of all. Now finally, I am a proud Muslim.” Les
Hold Obama responsible.
Hold Obama responsible!!!!
On Jan 20 2017 those in charge will and should be not only fired but charged with several crimes against this vet.that includes all who had direct responsibility for his care the dr and don should not only be fired but lose the medical license.
veteran of WHAT???
Obama should be put in prison for putting us veterans down & letting us rot after we die. He also needs to be impeached now.
Impeachment would be the right thing to do!!!
And, thank you for your service!
Kay, et al-
Obama should never be impeached, and i’ll tell ya why: Only LEGITIMATE officeholders can be impeached, therefore to even TRY would be to tacitly acknowledge that he IS a ‘natural-born” citizen and DID have the right to exercise the powers of the presidency lawfully, i.e. Constitutionally.
Nah, he should just be arrested, tried, and convicted like any other criminal – perhaps executed, too, if the elements of treason can be proven(personally, i’ve seen videotape of him saying that ISIS would receive training from US military, ergo he stands convicted out of his own mouth, according to the language of the Constitution he swore to “preserve, protect, and defend against all enemies, foreign and domestic”).
Obama being held responsible for anything that has occurred under his watch has about as much of a chance as a snowball in hell , this feckless congress hasn’t seen the last of America’s outrage over what’s been allowed to go on in Washington these last eight years.
Make no mistake retribution is coming.
Very bad of what they did. Only shows how Obama feels for Veterans, no shame! Be so Happy when he is gone.
I am a veteran , and it is a crying shame what Obama has done to all veterans. It’s too bad the people that voted for him didn’t do their homework to check his background. They would have found he is a black muslim, and hates America. And America has been paying the price ever since.
Thank you for your service!
The people didn’t care to do their homework before voting for him! They are the generation that just wants what they want….doesn’t matter what is GOOD for everyone! These are the same ones who are crying ‘foul play” and those who are rioting in the streets and those who are shooting our police officers every day. I just pray President-elect Trump can get through to some of them!
this travesty just shows the total decay of moral values that we have taught or children, who have now grown up.
Our schools were infiltrated by communists in the late sixties (they even printed a brochure saying they were going to infiltrate the public schools).
You can tell how much power they have gained through stories even smaller children bring home: “The teacher took all my school supplies away and gave them to the other children.” Redistribution – classic communism, even though the “c” word, the “s” word, and the “r” word (communism, socialism, redistribution) are likely never used in class.
So now we can’t be surprised that many young Americans are acting like communists.
The Veteran’s Administration has no one who is responsible for incidents like this. It’s not the administrators of the hospital that insures bodies of veterans like this are properly handled after death. It’s the nurse on the unit along with the nurse’s assistants that were responsible for this body. No amount of retraining is going to do any good. These are the same people who will let a veteran lay in his own excrement or fail to properly feed a veteran who cannot feed himself. These people aren’t going to be fired. It’s to political. Go into a VA hospital and you’ll see. I hope this veteran received the burial he deserved.
If we have heard about this, it is very likely that Trump has (or will). I trust him to do something about it.
This was wrong and a disgrace to one who had served our country. What are we coming to when we can so selfishly disregard the life of death of a fellow human being, let alone a vet who served to take care of his fellow human beings. I am appalled by this and there should be accountability as well as retraining. My brother spent a year and a half in the hospice VA in FL and in Temple, TX as well and there were things said and done that had to be addressed and needed to be changed immediately and it is a crying inhumane shame that we cannot and will not do any more than that to address this situation. This should be a legal situation and the unfortunate fact is probably this elderly outlived his family or they didn’t care or know about the situation until it was already said and done. Shame on the people who did this, shame on those who allowed it to happen and not bring it to the law authorities and SHAME on all of us for being so callous and disregarding of human life. SHAME on us.
Speak for yourself, with regard to shame!
I have NEVER voted for anyone who had a history of socialistic, communistic behavior, and I also would never vote for a Muslim, as their “sacred” text commands them to do things that are unAmerican, anti-American, anti-Christian, anti-western civilization, and downright evil.
Many of us have worked our tails off for years trying to keep evil out of powerful offices, with very little acknowledgement for our efforts.
Those who deserve the blame are the ones who voted unAmerican, anti-American, anti-Christian, anti-western civilization, evil politicians into office, who then dropped the VA and almost every other pro-American institution, agency or department as a priority.
Someday they will have to explain why they supported people so evil that they would (for instance) avail themselves of kidnapped and tortured children on Lolita Island. In the meanwhile, Trump will be doing what he can to clean up the mess as fast as possible.
My father also was lifetime military and my first husband as well and neither of them used the VA’s – they said they didn’t trust the hospitals to get decent care. The doctors go there first to pay off their school loans and no one is overseeing their work, so they figure they can slide the patient through because half of them are suffering from PTSD or even more traumatizing problems and don’t know the difference. They do the least they can do for the problem, do the cheapest “fix” they can do for a life changing problem and clock out at 3:30 or 4pm to go home to be w/their healthy wives and children that they make sure have good insurance and dental/vision care and live their lives w/out a thought as to the pain their protectors of their freedoms and rights are in and that they have because of these brave men and women who answered the call of their great country and figure it is just their right to get on through their day. What a callous way to serve your fellow man and especially those who gave you the right to serve them. How shameful we are to allow this horrible treatment of our military personnel and their families and we should hang our heads in shame for allowing this horrible way of life to continue. It is rare to find a VA doctor who cares and that is on us, each and every one of us. I feel ashamed and as “proud Americans” we all should. Shame on us, on all of us.
If you remember, during Obama’s first term he made a comment that returning veterans needed to have there own personal health insurance because “they volunteered for the armed service”. He has never been a supporter of the military and has single handedly done more to weaken our military and our alliances with our allies around the world. I wonder how he thinks that he will receive his government pension if our country falls to a foreign power due to or inability to defend ourselves! We owe our veterans the health care that they need for putting themselves at risk for us and our way of life.
He doesn’t need a pension; he supposedly kept $600 million from his first campaign, and currently has a home in Hawaii valued at $85 million.
Obama should never let anything awful like that happen to Americans. It’s his job to protect us, and for all eight years of him being in office, all he has done is put us in danger. It is as if he wants to weaken us. He hasn’t done anything but try befriend Saudi Arabia and the rest of the Middle East. Now, he is opening the borders as ‘payback’ for voting for Trump and letting immigrants from all over flood into OUR country. And on top of that, Liberals still worship him and Hillary. What a waste. Lets all hope that Trump can help us up from hell.
Obama probably took the Oath of Office with one hand on the Koran, and the other hand behind his back, with fingers crossed.
Do we all remember that he went somewhere to take the Oath where it couldn’t be recorded?
Has any other President taken the Oath behind closed doors?
“When Angry, count to four; when very angry, swear.” Mark Twain
Hold Obammie responsible. Someone needs to lose their job over this. Starting at the hospital level.
You can’t hold a moron responsible, that’s a Radical Muslim brotherhood brother! Wait his days are numbered, even after office.
We can always hope he’ll turn up with AIDS (and be forced to pay for treatments out of his own money). Or perhaps, if he’s been involved with some of the satanic rituals allegedly engaged in by “our” politicians, he could even end up with Prion’s (Mad Cow Disease). I’ve even seen one hypothesis that Hillary’s very strange symptoms might be (Prion’s). And the jerking, collapsing symptoms do seem similar, so who knows.
This, and other egregious acts by VHA employees, can be found at “disableveterans.org”!
I believe y’all will be more disgusted when you learn more!
Eliminate VA hospitals entirely and give eligible veterans the equivalent of a medical credit card, so they can get treatment wherever they decide is in their best interest.
The Veteran left in the shower after he died at the VA hospital there in the Tampa Bay Area, that is a complete & utterly total disgrace, I’m a Viet Nam era veteran plus also a Senior Citizen, I’m among the many that have faithfully, loyally, dedicated that have served our country, risking our lives and are now NO CLASS CITIZENS in our own country while we have idiots in Washington that are overpaid screwing us Senior Citizen & Veterans over for NO DAMNED REASON, those damned Demoncrats that never wore a uniform at all, never were away from their homes & families and have never been in a war zone in their lives are out of touch with reality and want to stay out of touch with reality. In 39 days Donald J. Trump will take office and he will have a very big job to do. The VA system will have to be completely overhauled and improved. The VA hospitals will need better directors who have served a minimum of 4 to 6 years active duty in the military whether they have served in the Army, Air Force, Navy, Marine Corps or Coast Guard to be the directors of our VA hospitals, not a civilian who never served in the military.
the muslime liar in chief is responsible. It happened under his watch and his appointments. He has no one else to blame which he will try to do. He takes responsibility for nothing and thinks he has had no scandals under his administration and that life is rosy for everyone.
He is an IDIOT
Eliminate VA hospitals entirely and give eligible veterans the equivalent of a medical credit card so they can seek treatment anywhere they decide is in their best interest.
Great idea Jimbo….will save taxpayers BILLIONS. And save many Veteran’s their life.
How can this sort of thing be tolerated ?
Chuck tolerated because there is no oversight……management covers-up the crimes so they will still receive a huge cash bonus( i.e., was 2.7 million in 2013)…….employees when caught in a felony are transferred or sent home ON FULL PAY during the investigation that can take Y**E**A**R**S (i.e., a couple in AZ have been on full pay to stay at home for over 120 weeks!).
In short the VA cannot be fixed because it is TOO CORRUPT…….it must be DEFUNDED N*0*W…..
How can this sort of thing be tolerated ? All involved should be disciplined
Let me tell you one thing if it was not for our veterans, who fought and died for this country, this country would not exist. One other thing that football player who did not stand for our national authium need to be send back to where he came from that dude is worthless.
As a veteran and 23 year civilian employee of Department of Army nothing Obummer and other politicians does surprises me. Those who do not serve in the military will be the last to serve the country. Some can and have, but not many. They tend to serve themselves at taxpayer expense. Think not? Check how much Obummer and Hillerious have increased their daughters’ bank accounts. Democrats take notice! There is one positive result of Obummer’s terms. It may be that, compared to him, he makes Jimmy Carter look like a great president!.
O’bozo the “Big Eared” Clown ignores the VA issues while Bob McDonnell claims all is good – talk about complete incompetence. President Trump will quickly get things back in order too bad we can’t move the inauguration date up, but that would screw up O’bozo’s plans to further take the country apart prior to his departure. He needs to be tried for TREASON if for no other reason than his crimes against our Veterans.
Obumer will live in hell for his sins, forever but that don’t help us now, Lord please send him now,
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I’m so ******* sick and tired of gov’t getting away with all kinds of ****. I hope Trump does a lot of house cleaning sending the **** to prison that needs to go to prison.
OUR VETERANS ARE USED IN WARS AND ABUSED WHEN THEY RETURN HOME. WHAT HAPPENED IS VILE AND DISTURBING AND I BLAME HUSSEIN OBAMA AND HIS ILK. THE CLOWN IN THE WH DESERVES THE SAME TREATMENT AND IT CAN’T HAPPEN SOON ENOUGH. HE IS A DISGRACE TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
GOD BLESS OUR MILITARY FOR THEY TRULY ARE OUR PRECIOUS CARGO.
So glad he is on his way out finally,an that we will have some one who cares about our vets
I CAN’T SAY WHAT SHOULD REALLY SHOULD HAPPEN TO OBAMA,HIS _ _ _ _ _, AND THE CLINTONS. THERE IS A HIGHER POWER, THAT WE’LL ALL FACE SOME DAY, SO WILL THEY.
Where was John McCain when the Veteran’s services sunk to this disgraceful level? He is now chasing Russian government hackers, who might or might not even exist, instead of fighting for sick and vulnerable veterans. He is a vet where are his priorities? The white hat hacker community has a world wide interest in truth in government. Good for them. Hillary lost along with a slew of Democrats at every governmental level because they let our economic,social service and foreign relations structures go to ground zero. Obama had no administrative job experience and very little experience in leadership he was backed by people who are always in the shadows. Who paid for his Harvard education? Trump is straightforward but with this
wall of obstructionist activities you see a lack of interest in real problems, that are catastrophic for the Americans they affect, and chasing red herring issues to divert attention from what is real and wrong in our society. These politicos do not want the problems solved. Social Security could have been solved back in the days when Senator Ted Kennedy was working on the issue and Congress chose not to stop its decline. Where has Elizabeth Warren been all of these years when she could have used her elected position to save Social Security, solve the problems in the VA? Now she is asking for a government investigation of the Trump transition team. The voters in the districts of these officials like, Pelosi, Warren and McCain, need representation by problem solver elected officials not officials that create problems-we have enough of those !
Carolyn Reilly – he and his buddy are far to worried and concerned with the Russians hacking the DNC – to bad they don’t do more than hack them!!!!!!!!
I have on several occasions posted thing just to have them not posted. Am I being censored?
I work as a Nurse and a Hospice Patient should have never even been left alone. Ask any regular medical care worker, Nurse, CNA, etc, most Management in any medical care facility are pencil pushers just barking out orders who could never do the job or the medical care staff.
This is a total disgrace what happened to this Veteran. Any VA Hospital with problems the whole Management staff should go.
Z. Cseh, well spoken and true!
I have a feeling that many, many of those will be GONE after our new president is in! Too many “in charge positions” are simply making money and not giving proper service … not only in the VA but everywhere!
AMEN!!!
The VA needs to be cleaned up or shut down. The incompetence of this agency is beyond imagination.
Newest rip-off by the VA idiots/crooks/Affirmative Action fruitcakes is the hiring of over 120 Art Designers to select art-work for VA Clinic/Hospital waiting rooms with a budget of $14,000,000………Maybe it is drugs driving these Bat-Dung-Crazies?
Short, sweat, and simple fire the employee and their supervisor. PROBLEM SOLVED…
Has anyone spent any time in a V A Hospital, I have , in a SCI Ward, and we were treated real well, the rest of the units I don’t know about. The main problem is Obama, he must be removed along with the Clintons. They need to be held response able for everything that they have done.
Please, Tampa, go protest in front of this place so that this man is not forgotten. Somebody must care for this is a disgrace to our elderly, our veterans and our country. Shame on obama and all those who disrespect human life.
I’m a vet of the Marine Corps, and back in 2011 when vets were dying to get into the Phoenix VA, I had the same experience with the Minneapolis VA. Obama, Hitliary, and the rest of the liberals hate vets! Maybe the fake news ought to repeat this nonstop at
5:00 every night! Oh they can’t because they’re the real fake news!
YES, HOLD ALL PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS MAN’S DEATH. ESPECIALLY OBAMA BECAUSE HE IS THE MAIN PERSON RESPONSIBLE. FOR PUTTING THESE VETERANS UNDER NO CARE AT ALL.
All you folks should check out Geoengineeringwatch if you want real news.
“Hold Obama Responsible” he has more compassion for those who terrorize, behead, rape and murder the innocent.
The VA needs a clean sweep from top to bottom!!
Agreed, followed by a long list of arrest and if not arrest at the very least they should be known so others will never higher them.
Is the lead-in supposed to say “Outage” or “Outrage”?
This is why every Veteran’s Organization should be working around the clock to DEFUND the massively corrupt VA…….all VA assets should be sold……employees who committed crimes, fraud, perjury, cooked-the-books, etc., etc. must be arrested & charged……and lose all benefits, & return any/all bonuses……. Issue Disabled Veterans a Health Credit Card so they can finally get better, faster health care where & when needed.
I wish we could back up history, to the war between the states. Obama would be from the north leading his men south, in front of his troops. Just like a squirrel hunter going after a squirrel. The war would have been won by the south. When Obama turned tail to run for the golf club, oh, I lost scope, the hills. Soo, I’m day dreaming. No more Obamas. lol
Do people need retraining to respect the dignity of our diseased veterans, another example of incompetence and the attitude that the American people are stupid? They need to raise the bar for hiring caring,competent people to value our veterans and give them the great care they deserve!
This is so sickening…..he keeps putting new people in to head the VA and nothing changes. Are these all individuals who donate to the socialists? (used to be called democrats) and they getting a job as a payback?? Obviously he spends no time trying to find someone who has a brain and can run a business, because that’s what the VA is. Thankfully we have just about six weeks till the fix can begin!!
Anyone that works for Government is never fired unless they disagree or go against the Government. They are not written up for wrong doing, just a free ride to do whatever! Doesn’t work that way for us! We pay their salaries and I think they should be accountable for wrong doings! You keep a bad employee because why? So many things wrong with in our Government!
It sounds like the VA system and its hospitals are just like any other government office or program. The level of efficiency and consistency appears to be much the same. It is a shame when people don’t take pride in their work. Yes, there are jobs that are very demanding. But that is no excuse. It is time that we get people in leadership positions that will handle their responsibilities and hold those under their supervision accountable for the actions or lack thereof.
Many years ago I went to a VA clinic and was asked by a civilian after he was told my income. What are you doing here? My answer to him was I am a Veteran and if I had insurance I would not be here.I never went back. Thank God for Tri-Care, the Government would get rid of that if they could.It is so sad to see illegals and welfare recipients getting better care than our Veterans.
I am the grandson and son of a Vet. I myself am a proud Vietnam Vet.
I receive care at the San Diego VA. The care and attention are first rate.
They have brought me back to health and even have gotten me back to caring for my family, my job and my future.
The reality is very simple. Not all VA Medical Centers are this good.
BUT – not every VET is in the same boat. (I was in the Navy). Some have come off of terrible mental, physical and or mental illness situations. They don’t have any family to care for or about them so no one to help followup on treatments, appointments, talking meds, etc. We all need to write letters to congressmen, other legislators, the VA in DC, etc. Then we all need to volunteer to help a vet as his or her advocate. Don’t complain until you want to help. God Bless America and the Constitution.
The WHOLE Damn staff of this shit hole of a poor excuse of a hospital should be put in jail!!!
No ones body should be treated with such disrespect after their passing, ESPECIALLY a VETERAN !!!
I agree with most of this. My husband, 36 years working for his country (Air Force) died of cancer. I did some research and find there is a cure and he didn’t get it because ‘Big Pharma’ is keeping it off the market In order for them and certain political figures to line their pockets, According to what I read, everyone who has taken the immunology cure has been cured of cancer. I think we need to scrap everyone up there and start with an all new Congress as well as White House and someone in a good position needs to start an extensive investigation on ‘Big Pharma’ as well as FDA. He had it six years and it steadily got worse and the only thing they wanted to do was surgery and radiation. With the immunology treatment there is no reason for radiation and surgery, but it takes dollars out of ‘Big Pharma’s’ coffers and the political persons pockets.
I am a veteran (1980-1984) and totally agree with your comments. Everyone should be writing their Congressman and Senator about how they feel. If enough of us send our comments and suggestions to them on issues like this, I believe it would change things. Here we are just venting, enough of us writing the powers-that-be will eventually get results. After all, they do not like real pressure.
Too Bad that this happened at the VA. I’ve seen the good the VA can do and if you compare its several hundred facilities to a like sized organization you’d see that it falls far from the worst of the bunch. The Veterans I know are glad the VA is there. Hopefully this incident will cause the people of the VA to redouble their efforts to provide the best care, anywhere. Because, no matter how good management is, if the employees are not motivated, service will never be as good as it could be.