The Islamic terrorist that slaughtered 49 Americans at a nightclub in Orlando seems to have been lashing out over a secret about himself he hated — he was gay.
That’s according to The New York Post, which reported, “The ex-wife of Orlando mass killer Omar Mateen claimed Monday that she believed he was homosexual — as it was revealed that he frequented the gay nightclub where he staged the nation’s worst massacre in modern times.”
Mateen, an American-born Muslim of immigrant parents, appears to be a “homegrown extremist” who had touted support not just for the Islamic State, but other radical groups that are its enemies, according to the White House and the FBI.
Could his self-hatred over his homosexuality — and his inability to reconcile it with his religion — have fueled his desire for terror?
Mateen’s father has expressed hatred for homosexuals in the past, as well as support of Islamic extremism, leading to many to speculate the mix was an explosive combination of self-loathing that drove Mateen to mass murder.
Ty Smith described Mateen’s regular visits to the nightclub to the Canadian Press, saying Mateen “would show up with a buddy and let loose in a way he couldn’t when he was closer to the family home in Port St. Lucie: ‘(He’d get) really, really drunk… He couldn’t drink when he was at home — around his wife, or family. His father was really strict… He used to bitch about it.'”
According to The Associated Press, despite Mateen’s pledge of support to the Islamic State, other possible explanations emerged. His ex-wife said he suffered from mental illness. His Afghan-immigrant father suggested he may have acted out of anti-gay hatred, and said his son got angry recently about seeing two men kiss. But questions also emerged over whether Mateen was conflicted about his own sexuality and strict Islamic upbringing.
Jim Van Horn, 71, said Mateen was a “regular” at the popular Pulse nightclub where he’d later take hostages and leave 49 dead.
“He was trying to pick up people. Men,” Van Horn told The Associated Press late Monday outside the Parliament House, another gay club.
Van Horn, a retired pharmacist, said he met Mateen once, and the younger man talked about his ex-wife. But Van Horn said his friends soon “told me they didn’t want me talking to him, because they thought he was a strange person.”
Van Horn acknowledged that he didn’t know Mateen well, but said he suspects that the massacre was about both Islamic extremism and a man conflicted about his sexuality.
“I think it’s possible that he was trying to deal with his inner demons, of trying to get rid of his anger of homosexuality,” said Van Horn, who lost three friends in the shooting. “It’s really confusing to me. Because you can’t change who you are. But if you pretend that you’re different, then you may shoot up a gay bar.”
The Orlando Sentinel and other news organizations quoted other regulars from Pulse who said they had seen Mateen there a number of times.
“Sometimes he would go over in the corner and sit and drink by himself, and other times he would get so drunk he was loud and belligerent,” said Ty Smith, who remembered seeing Mateen inside at least a dozen times.
“One Orlando man, who refused to be named, told MSNBC that he had seen photos of Mateen on several gay dating apps, including Grindr, Adam4Adam, and Jack’d. He claimed that at least two of the man’s friends had been contacted by Mateen on the apps in the past,” The New York Post reported.
More details of the massacre emerged, with Orlando police Chief John Mina saying Mateen was “cool and calm” during phone calls with negotiators. But Mina said he decided to send the SWAT team in and bash through a wall after Mateen holed up with hostages in a bathroom and talked about bombs and an explosive vest.
“We knew there would be an imminent loss of life,” Mina said. As it turned out, Mateen had no explosives with him.
The tragedy hit the city’s gay and Hispanic communities especially hard. Sunday was Latino Night at the club.
“As the names come out, they are overwhelmingly Latino and Hispanic names,” said Christina Hernandez, a Hispanic activist. “These were not just victims of the LBGT community, but of the Hispanic community, as well. This was senseless bloodshed.”
Five of the wounded were reported in grave condition, meaning the death toll could rise. A call has gone out for blood donations.
The Associated Press contributed to this article.
John G says
The White House put it into perspective when they told the Florida Governor that they wouldn’t give him any information on Syrian refugee’s sent to Florida because they have rights while we native born citizens apparently have none.
Can’t wait for Trump to assume the Presidency to right our listing ship and put us on a positive course.
Juan Two Three says
I’m with you John G. 100%!! This f’d up mess Obongoloid has created HAS to be turned around NOW! Just read where another Radical Islamic Terrorist just kill a Police Commander and his police officer partner in the Commanders home. These f’ing Muslims wherever they are need to be destroyed, beheaded, put in cages and dumped in a vat of nitric acid, as they did last week to Christians who would not convert to Islam. Or, put them in cages and light them on fire, like they did to the Jordanian solider!
If everyone had had guns in this night club most of the deaths would not have occurred.
Art A says
Concerned Citizen. says
The killer was a born-in-America citizen as well. Apparently he passed the loose background check to legally buy a gun even though he had a history of violence, mental illness, and was flagged by the FBI as having terrorist ties. The NRA will make sure that all the crazies and all the violent people and all the ISIS lovers can get an assault rifle any time they want it.
Cars also kill people every day , booze also kill people & guns also kill people. But people drive cars , people drink booze then drive cars , people have guns then shoot people. So in your mind of thinking should we take away all cars, booze & guns to solve this problem??? One World Government has one thing they have to do is take our guns they already have the media. We the people have guns government fear the people otherwise bigO would like to be a dick tater like Cuba never happen.
Barnicle Bill says
Yes Robert, I agree. I go with the old saying that “If you outlaw guns, then only outlaws will have guns!” I can’t understand why that is so hard for people to wrap thier heads around!
Concerned, I am concerned about your lack of knowledge and hatred. He was an anchor baby which does not by our Constitution make him a real citizen but just another invader. He was raised by a Taliban father who obviously hates America as well. Instead of the FBI putting him on the no-fly list and advise gun vendors everywhere of him, etc., etc., they allowed this murderer to walk our streets and murder. The NRA, of which I am a member, wants to protect Americans while obviously you do not. Hope and pray that you will not be killed by another criminal/muslim because there are many names in FL on the ISIS list for their comeuppance. Maybe your name is on that list.
Barnicle Bill says
I am a die hard 2nd ammendment guy! But I wouldn’t have a problem with a ban on assalt rifles like the AR 15, as long as it does NOT include shotguns, hunting rifles and collectable rifles. I think my next gun will be a Henry Mare’s Leg.
Arthur Hartsock says
The second amendment protects us from a government takeover. It’s not for us to hunt squirrels, target shoot, and kill burglars (although this is a worthwhile byproduct). If we are threatened with a fascistic government takeover, we’ll need automatic weapons to match their firepower. I know, we still won’t have nukes, artillery, helicopter gun ships, etc.
Alvian Chavez says
What makes the AR 15 an assault rifle? Just curious.
Phillip R. Lake says
You and the people that think the same way you do about guns are going to be humbled beyond measure when the real killing starts and there is someone standing in front of you and your family fighting for your life. Hell is here in our country and growing stronger every day and you folks think we can fight back with bats and bricks.
Noted earlier today, on another website; a report by a “former” DHS agent by the name of Haney, claimed the mosque mateen attended, in Florida, was also attended by the husband/wife terror team who shot up San Bernadino. That mosque “was under” FBI investigation – -until “hitlery’s” own state department shut the investigation down, claiming it “singled out muslims”!! Oh, – -duh. So, the clinton crime family matriach, wanna-be-la-presidente, has MUCH MORE than the blood of Benghazi on her hands!
Ditto, John, and this murderer was an “anchor baby” which is a legal issue. He was raised by a devout Taliban father and coached to hate all gays/lesbos (maybe Dad suspect his son was a gay), went to a muslim school and learned more hate, and went twice to the MidEast, was investigated 3 times by our FBI (the useless) and still was allowed to be free to murder. Why wasn’t his name on that no-fly list or with gun vendors so he could not buy the weapons legally? Makes one wonder if this administration and departments all need to be dismantled and we start fresh with Trump as our leader and gets things done and problems solved, which we have no seen in America for decades! Enough, already. We the People are the Government so let’s act like it! These people are our employees and can be removed, even if bodily and the sooner the better.
Amy Lewis says
Totally agree. We need someone who will look out for our interest.
Rose Boltz says
Agree with John, the change can’t come soon enough.
WILLIAM QUINION says
IT WAS REPORTED BY HIS FATHER that he was taught that God would take care of punishing the gays??? So ,it seems that he didn’t believe his father and listened to the other people who convinced him that he should take on the responsibility of helping HIS GOD ALLAH to speed things up or that he believed that there was no Muslim GOD that needed his followers to do the killing for him to give creedance to the LIE,RIGHT??? Jesus never condemned the gays, prostitutes, lesbians, or nympho’s ??? He said it was a matter of choice or in the case of a divorced woman with child, SOCIETY PRESSURE forced HER to provide the service for the survival of herself and her child???Matt 19 on Marriage and Divorce! He used the term [ Eunoch ] to describe them all as sexual servants, Which was the duty of a Eunoch in serving the rich man’s many wives without creating [ UNWANTED CHILDREN ] DUE TO THEIR INABILITY to impregnate a woman,right??? I don’t expect you to believe this as many people do NOT have a logical mind to comprehend this explanation??? An issue Jesus failed to consider which would explain the REASON they did not believe him or understand many of his TEACHINGS,RIGHT???
One must remember that in scripture It calls it an
“abomination” for men to be with men!!! Take a look at Sodom and Gamohra and you’ll see where we are today!! The United States is nothing more than a modern day Sodom and Gamohra if you think about it. Wake up America!!!!!!! Before its tooooo late!!!!!!! Never-the-less… Come quickly Lord Jesus!!!!!!!
Philip McKee says
Agreed, Obama the Blowhard,”LIAR-in-CHIEF” should be removed from office “NOW NOT LATER” The sooner the better.
Almost (8) eight years of O J T and still can’t do the job that needs to be done.
I’m not surprised that mateen would have homosexual desires. He hated himself. And misery loves company. He was evil to the bone. I blame his father. His father brainwashed him. So, is anyone watching the father?? That is where the evil began. And again- TRUMP is correct. The evil came straight from Afghanistan and did this POS father come here legally??
America better wake up fast!!! Trump is the ONLY one that will protect ALL AMERICANS. All Americans lives matter. Every last one of us. And the idiots that believe anything differently need to GET OUT !
Not all Muslims are terrorists. But, most terrorists are Muslim. And why?? Because they are MISERABLE. And they want every last one of us to be dead, or miserable with them.
Wake up America!! Before we allow anyone to enter our country- lets know what they are all about!! You don’t invite a mass murderer into your home for supper. And if you want all this kumbaya – you are one of the problems. !!!!!!!! Wake up!!!
Only TRUMP will make a difference !!!!!
Donna Pace says
Well said.Awake. Our President Obamashit is not doing his job to keep us safe. He will not call them radical Muslims. Why? Because he is one of the many. Yes they want all Christians, Jewish, and any other religion that is not a Muslim religion. I will never convert. I will never read what hatred is. They think that they have the right to kill us all and make this country into a Muslim Country. I say the only way to get rid of these Radical Muslims marching in our streets that want to kill us is to bring back our military with a AK-47 and 1,000 rounds and put on the top of the buildings and kill all of them PERIOD! I am not racist or a terrorist.I am not against gays! I do not blame anyone for their choices. They have the rights as we do. I AM AN ITALIAN/FRENCH AMERICAN!
Thomas Ramirez says
Yeah, blame Obama.
While our Republican congress has sat on it’s ass through his two terms.
Wait until we get Trump.
However recent evidence has surfaced that the shooter was in fact a homosexual that had frequented this and other gay nightclubs in the Orlando area. Now the fault of this act shifts from Islam to the insanity of the LGBT; or as I refer to them as the MDSD, (Mentally deranged Sexual Deviants). This further proves that these people will eat their own, when our children are not available. There is a pattern of violence and homosexuality: Richard Speck, John Wayne Gacy, Jeffery Dahmer, the list goes on and on.
Justin W says
It will be interesting to see if the media will point out that this guy was a closet homosexual. Once that is made public it will change how people deal with this tragedy. Suddenly it will become a matter of gay on gay violence. That will hurt the fundraising opportunities for gay rights groups and thwart some of the efforts to exploit this tragedy to advance the gay rights agenda.
Arthur Hartsock says
Guilt is a terrible emotion. Guilt will fester inside us and explode in unspeakable ways. It is better to admit your failures, than to hide them. Funny thing though, when we think we’re hiding something our friends/family will see through us. The only one we fool is ourselves.
Juan Two Three says
Guess this Radical Islamic Terrorist homo got tired of having sex with his father’s goats?? Just sayin….
Southern By Choice says
Just why was my comment “awaiting moderation”? Second from the top??
So it was just Gay on Gay violence. Is that what the LGBT wants this remembered as? Some how a lot of strangers are coming forward with bogus stories so Obama can once again defend and protect the Islamic Terrorists. A reference to gay apps with no reporters adding a link or photo? It’s a bullshit deflection by Obama. The gay community should not support the lie.
I almost forgot about that in Frisco i think in the 70’s when the head of Frisco city government was killed by his gay lover remember that Pelosi & the i cant think the name of the congress woman’s name they are still in office from California sill sucking on the government tit hell that is 50 years ago and they are still in congress. Time for Change 50 years.
John Siemens says
Obama and all Muslims know the truth but are unwilling to express it. They lie to all Americans. This terrorist was caught between a rock and a hard place in regard to Islam. Islam is a religion that demands its followers earn their way into heaven. When a follower of Islam has sinned as grievously as Mateen, there is a requirement in Islam to “make it right”. Mateen did just that. He had to kill all those infidels in order to earn his way back into the graces of Allah. The more infidels that die, the greater Mateen’s reward in heaven. We will, in coming days, probably discover that Mateen’s father and Imam found out about the homosexuality and counseled Mateen that this was the only way to redeem himself and assure his place in heaven.
This is one sick and evil religion!
I believe you are totally right on the money with this
What’s being spread about that piece of Muslim garbage is just nothing but a bunch of BS. Did anyone ever give thought to the fact that he was hanging around that night club trying to pick up guys so he could get them alone and murder them? That makes a lot more sense than that he was a closet homosexual. Personally, I don’t approve of the “gay” life style but that’s no reason for wholesale murder. They should live their lifestyle and I should live mine, leaving each other alone. Face it. This Muslim bastard was ISIS plain and simple. He was a “believer.” We who are not, gay or straight, are not in the eyes of that Islam worshiping trash and should all die. Well, I’ve got a flash for them. If any come after me they might get their way. But I’ll damn sure take one or two with me. Everyone in this country should have that outlook instead of going for firearms confiscation, like Obama, Hillary, Biden and others.
I’m worried if we’ll make it to November, let alone January!
Pathetic…but then again, it doesn’t surprise me anymore. In all honesty, I think it was planned and done for Hillary (votes) and gun control. Desperate people do desperate things….it is obvious who the shooter is connected to, and just a reminder, not ALL assault rifles or guns come from the streets or stores. If I remember right, the government traded, gave or misplaced guns in the past….just saying!
His parents and all other family members need to be exiled! They’re breeding killers
Have to agree; Federal gov’t agents refusing to release data on Muslim immigrants – where they are, how they’re being supported, what the results of their background investigations were – amounts to criminal neglect. If any more die as a result, the victims families should sue the government agents responsible for this policy, perhaps even criminally charge them with “depraved indifference to human life,” for they’re actively complicit in mass murders.
Governors have a vested interest in protecting the lives, liberties, and property of their Citizens, and therefore have the need to know and the Right to know about who the Federal gov’t agents are who are authorizing refugee-dumping.
Perhaps an on-line registry similar to that for pedophiles and other criminals should be established – if not by gov’t agents, then by Citizens. Just list the names and addresses of every Muslim you know.
Big Daddy says
Please for the sake of the Nation,
The United States of America.
Read All of this Post
Learn The Real facts
Think about what is written here
Wonder why the Federal Government has bought over 2,000,000,000 (2 BILLION) rounds of ammunition (much of it hollow point) for use within the borders of The United States of America and why some will blindly follow the Democratic Party with NO questions ask.
barrack hussain obama and hillary rodham clinton again want to wage WAR on the NRA and ALL legal Forearm Owners over this incident. An Incident that neither Owners of Legal Firearms nor the NRA had anything to do with and regret it happened.
However, this reminds me of the past. Germany has similar instances.
This incident could be enough for the Democratic Party to use this like the Nazi’s did prior to WW2 and that incident would be the shooting of a German diplomat in Paris by a teenage Polish Jew. Hitler directed propaganda minister Josef Goebbels to orchestrate the Night of the Broken Glass
Now the Racist and Bigoted Democratic Party who daily expounds about their wanting to turn the once great United States of America into a Socialist Dream Land, are taking their ideas from a group who had the same Dream. The Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (National Socialist German Workers’ Party; NSDAP). aka NAZI.
The Racist and Bigoted Democratic Party get their idea straight from the NAZI playbook.
The perennial gun-control debate in America did not begin here. The same arguments for and against were made in the 1920s in the chaos of Germany’s Weimar Republic, which opted for gun registration. Law-abiding persons complied with the law, but the Communists and Nazis committing acts of political violence did not.
In 1931, Weimar authorities discovered plans for a Nazi takeover in which Jews would be denied food and persons refusing to surrender their guns within 24 hours would be executed. They were written by Werner Best, a future Gestapo official. In reaction to such threats, the government authorized the registration of all firearms and the confiscation thereof, if required for “public safety.” The interior minister warned that the records must not fall into the hands of any extremist group.
In 1933, the ultimate extremist group, led by Adolf Hitler, seized power and used the records to identify, disarm, and attack political opponents and Jews. Constitutional rights were suspended, and mass searches for and seizures of guns and dissident publications ensued. Police revoked gun licenses of Social Democrats and others who were not “politically reliable.”
During the five years of repression that followed, society was “cleansed” by the National Socialist regime. Undesirables were placed in camps where labor made them “free,” and normal rights of citizenship were taken from Jews. The Gestapo banned independent gun clubs and arrested their leaders. Gestapo counsel Werner Best issued a directive to the police forbidding issuance of firearm permits to Jews.
In 1938, Hitler signed a new Gun Control Act. Now that many “enemies of the state” had been removed from society, some restrictions could be slightly liberalized, especially for Nazi Party members. But Jews were prohibited from working in the firearms industry, and .22 caliber hollow-point ammunition was banned.
The time had come to launch a decisive blow to the Jewish community, to render it defenseless so that its “ill-gotten” property could be redistributed as an entitlement to the German “Volk.” The German Jews were ordered to surrender all their weapons, and the police had the records on all who had registered them. Even those who gave up their weapons voluntarily were turned over to the Gestapo.
This took place in the weeks before what became known as the Night of the Broken Glass, or Kristallnacht, occurred in November 1938. That the Jews were disarmed before it, minimizing any risk of resistance, is the strongest evidence that the pogrom was planned in advance. An incident was needed to justify unleashing the attack.
That incident would be the shooting of a German diplomat in Paris by a teenage Polish Jew. Hitler directed propaganda minister Josef Goebbels to orchestrate the Night of the Broken Glass. This massive operation, allegedly conducted as a search for weapons, entailed the ransacking of homes and businesses, and the arson of synagogues.
SS chief Heinrich Himmler decreed that 20 years be served in a concentration camp by any Jew possessing a firearm. Rusty revolvers and bayonets from the Great War were confiscated from Jewish veterans who had served with distinction. Twenty thousand Jewish men were thrown into concentration camps, and had to pay ransoms to get released.
The U.S. media covered the above events. And when France fell to Nazi invasion in 1940, the New York Times reported that the French were deprived of rights such as free speech and firearm possession just as the Germans had been. Frenchmen who failed to surrender their firearms within 24 hours were subject to the death penalty.
No wonder that in 1941, just days before the Pearl Harbor attack, Congress reaffirmed Second Amendment rights and prohibited gun registration. In 1968, bills to register guns were debated, with opponents recalling the Nazi experience and supporters denying that the Nazis ever used registration records to confiscate guns. The bills were defeated, as every such proposal has been ever since, including recent “universal background check” bills.
As in Weimar Germany, some well-meaning people today advocate severe restrictions, including bans and registration, on gun ownership by law-abiding persons. Such proponents are in no sense “Nazis,” any more than were the Weimar officials who promoted similar restrictions. And it would be a travesty to compare today’s situation to the horrors of Nazi Germany. Still, as history teaches, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
That is why the Racist and Bigoted Democratic Party want and push minute by minute, hour by our and day by day to do they for Gun Control, as you see how well it worked out for those of the Faith (Jews).
I for one do not ever want to see something like the devastation done from 1935-1945 to EVER happen again. What is so very sad is that there are so many Jews in the Racist and Bigoted Democratic Party who refuse to open their eyes and see what their beloved Racist and Bigoted Democratic Party are attempting to do to their own people, much like the Jewish Nazi collaborators of WW2.
All I can say is NEVER AGAIN.
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Aija Pelshe says
Well said! I agree with you. We must be able to protect ourselves from the Obama Control Freaks!
You hit the nail right on the head!! However, let’s not forget Italy, Russia, and Japan in this discussion! Gun confiscation took place there too, using the German model.
I’m a Viet Nam vet and life N. R. A. member. As Charltin Heston stated….
“From my dead cold hands!!!” God Bless the United States of America and God Bless Donald Trump!!!!!!!
Susan Dix says
They let this criminal slip through their fingers twice! (FBI)
Then they took him off of the watch list, then, Bingo! look what happened!!!.
Look at his father who admits to supporting extreme terrorists, why is he not deported??
They really need more man power to deal with the ongoing threats.
Raids should be done on each and every mosque to eradicate terrorists.
Most are nothing more than terror training camps.
Then they(local authorities) tell our brave firefighters to remove the American flag from their fire truck.
They said it is a terrorist symbol in the community they serve!!! How nutty can our government get?
James Stevens says
His being GAY is what the left would like you to believe. This way it would be a Lovers Quarrel Killing and not Shariah Terrorist act. Have all you people gone totally brain dead? Don’t you remember Taqiyya, the deceptive role playing required to get close to your enemy? He had to pretend to be gay in order to hang out at the club and plan his attack. This way he could come and go as he pleased. FYI: Do not be fooled by his timid father. That guy is the up and coming president of Afghanistan. I am sure Obama has special plans for the father. ( On a personal note; Most of the muslim women in the east have been bathed in Acid, beheaded, stoned to death, or blown up with a Jihadi corsett. This would explain why an unusually large number of Muslim males are either Gay, pedophiles, or practice beastiality. So maybe Omar was also a Gay in reality. Who knows, who the he_ _ gives a da_n as long as he is dead. jwstx)
Tom W says
Will future terrorists watching to police stand outside the night club realize that they have 2 to 3 hours to murder innocent civilians before the police take any action? Tom W
Read it all, Big Daddy.
i was aware of most of it, but not the timeline so much.
It was quite well-written, except for a few spelling errors, but those are quite minor when contrasted with the extremely valuable information your writings contained.
As you well-note, each and every mass shooting in America results in yet more idiotic nattering by gun-control nuts to disarm the law-abiding; criminals, of course, will not comply BY DEFINITION with any gun registration or arm-surrendering legislation – in fact, should any such legislation appear, despite the penalties which may be claimed as “right” by those passing such “laws,” i would willingly become a criminal.
Our Right to self-defense is God-given, a “natural right”(see Thomas Paine’s “Rights of Man”), which governments are not meant to control at all.
Few people are aware of what SCOTUS ruled long ago, so i’ll take this opportunity to remind them:
“[The Right to Keep and Bear Arms] is not a right granted by the Constitution. Neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence. The second amendment declares that it shall not be infringed;… This is one of the amendments that has no other effect than to restrict the powers of the national government,…”.
~U.S. v. Cruikshank Et Al. 92 U.S. 542 (1875).
Sorta makes the Heller decision relatively irrelevant, don’t it?
i believe many-if-not-most believe that they only have Rights because the Constitution grants them, when nothing could be further from the truth; those who swear oaths of fealty to the Constitution are those who are bound by it’s terms, which are mainly to leave Citizens free: to speak and write their opinions, to be armed against bullies and thugs of ALL stripes(including those who wear badges), to practice the religion they choose, and several other rights – including a right considered so basic it wasn’t even mentioned, but was covered by the 9th and 10th Amendments, the right to travel on public roads. Most people, i daresay, are completely unaware that they do NOT need a “license” to operate their private cars, trucks, or vans, as long as they’re not engaged in commerce at the time.
Just look up the definitions of the words used in your State’s motor vehicle laws; see how, for example, “driving” is defined, as well as how “motor vehicle” and other similar words are defined, and you’ll discover that they’re all related to transporting passengers or cargo for profit…though this is an aside, for without the 2nd Amendment to prevent overzealous – but sworn – officeholders from tampering with our God-given right to defend our lives, liberty, and property from thugs of all kinds, the rest of the named Rights, as well as the Unnamed ones, will be worthless.
Susan Thurwachter says
“Big Daddy’s” excellent educational comment, a word to the wise, is worth heeding today.
So… I’m assuming the shooters father is under FBI investigation due to his support for islamic extremist…If not…GET HIM ON THE LIST NOW… AND NEVER REMOVE HIM…………..NO FLY…NO BUY
IIRC, the father may also be quite insane; i remember seeing a report that the dad had dressed himself in army fatigues, pretending to be the next president of Afghanistan, calling for the arrests of several current gov’t figures there on some youtube vid or other.
However, if it can be shown that he’s provided any kind of financial support to any known terrorist organization, he can and should be immediately arrested. If he’s a US citizen now – and that’s more likely than not – he’s free to SPEAK his opinion of hatred for the United States, but taking action against them is criminal. as is aiding or abetting it’s enemies. OUR enemies.
After all, i myself frequently post my opnions about portions of the USG i consider to be criminal, and should always have that right.
So now the spin will be this sh!tbird killed all these people because he was gay and not because of islamic terrorism. What a bunch of low life bastards.
Yeah, Tucko’s link seems to explain it sortof well; seems these nutjobs get brainwashed and sexually repressed from an early age, and although Islam strictly forbids homosexual behavior, it is usually tolerated among those who have been required to not even LOOK at a woman that he’s not married to…well, at least until ISIS catches you! Then it’s that short step off a tall building for you.
Geeze, no wonder. Poor bastards. But since they’re unwilling to change(“will of Allah,” and all that crap), then they need to stay the hell away from America until they’re willing to grow the f*** up. Literally.