The nation’s largest private insurer has decided to pull out of ObamaCare in all but “a handful” of markets, a move that is likely to touch off insurance premium spikes that could cost customers over $1,000 a year — and possibly could lead to a collapse of the entire system.
After losing $1 billion over the last two years, the UnitedHealth Group has announced it will no longer provide ObamaCare coverage in virtually all of the 34 state ObamaCare exchanges where it sells health insurance – despite over $1 trillion in pledged support over the next 10 years.
If no other company steps in to fill the unprofitable vacuum, it will leave ObamaCare markets ready to implode in much of the country .
To be able to function, a state exchange must have at least three insurance companies competing for customers, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation.
If UnitedHealth leaves the ObamaCare exchanges altogether, that will leave 53 percent of Americans – 2.4 million people in mostly small towns and rural areas – with one or two insurers to choose from. It would cause the number of people who have only one insurance provider available to more than quadruple.
In much of the country, people would have only one insurance company to “choose” from.
This isn’t exactly what the president promised when he pitched the Affordable Care Act. In 2013, President Obama said, “This law means more choice, more competition, lower costs for millions of Americans.” Chalk up another one of ObamaCare’s broken promises.
After hearing that UnitedHealth may be heading for the exits, a spokesman for the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services responded by saying, apparently without any hint of irony, “The marketplace should be judged by the choices it offers consumers.”
That would be none.
Obviously, decreasing the supply will trigger price increases – a fact ObamaCare’s defenders are trying their best to minimize. UnitedHealth’s departure, they say, would only cause the premium of the national benchmark plan to rise by one percent.
But people don’t pay the national benchmark’s price. Their rate is based on their local market.
In 13 counties, if UnitedHealth leaves the market, customers will pay more than $100 in extra premiums every single month. In 304 counties, the difference would be between $25 and $100 monthly, or $300 to $1,200 a year for each insurance policy.
The impact will be more catastrophic if any of the other Big Five insurers follows UnitedHealth out the door. Aetna has hinted it may do so. Its CEO, Mark Bertolini, said its ObamaCare “business remained unprofitable in 2015, and we continue to have serious concerns about the sustainability of the public exchanges.”
The companies are the latest, but far from the only, victims of the Affordable Care Act, which President Obama promised would insure more people with more serious health problems while somehow cutting costs. A series of financial tricks and bureaucratic regulations were designed to keep the public from seeing its true price tag.
One of those was to deny insurance companies the ability to charge fees based on the patient’s health and likely burden to others – the only way to remain solvent.
As The Horn News reported, 12 of the nation’s 23 ObamaCare co-ops have already failed, and the entire system appears to entering a “death spiral.”
Desperate to stop the red ink, insurance companies have increased premiums, sometimes by 30 percent or more a year.
For the most part, this has remained hidden to the consumer, because of another ObamaCare gimmick: taxpayer subsidies.
About 85 percent of ObamaCare recipients qualify for some taxpayer funding to offset their premiums. Despite double-digit premium increases, after we all chip in to pay their insurance bill, most consumers have only seen the price they pay increase by four percent.
Of course, that’s a parlor trick. The subsidies are paid for by taxes. So, the Obama administration is just taking money from the consumer’s right pocket and putting it in his left pocket, after taking a hefty bite out of it in transit.
The system has also shifted 68 million people –- 16 million more than anticipated -– onto state health care, either Medicaid or CHIP programs for children. This continues to leach away money from the productive economy into the government’s coffers.
And as time goes on, and ObamaCare becomes more unstable, the amount American taxpayers fork over is only going to increase. According to a new CBO report, ObamaCare subsidies will increase $1.1 trillion over the next decade.
That is, if Aetna or another of the Big Five insurers doesn’t follow UnitedHealth’s lead and leave the ObamaCare exchanges to collapse like a house of cards.
– The Horn editorial team
Main Street says
Like the apathetic, smart phone staring, clueless folks say, it’s all good. Right?
Donald L Girton says
To say no one saw this coming is just not true. Can people NOW understand why NOT ONE republican voted for this? And….to Nancy Pelosi…..we finally DID READ THIS and ma’am…..WE DO NOT LIKE IT!
Go away Mr Obama….go back doing what you’re good at….go organize a community!
atilter says
the community of chicago really needs all the help he can possibly deliver! after all, that’s where all this political histrionics began! the administration of this lame and hapless duck has not produced anything useful for the american public. initiation of law through presidential decree has been his biggest folly and tool. from my old civics class in intermediate school, that is not the way the process was designed to operate. unilateral decision making was never designed to replace the “old” proven system. why was it used then? that’s because despite all his remarkable oratory, he has never been able to work effectively with others in the federal government. even his own appointees, who eventually saw the light, resigned. even his own party has spent countless hours in face-saving and behind-the-scene patch-work quilting to soften his mediocre moves designed more for public image than practicality. obama care is a primary and costly example. he tried to fix something that was not broken! NOW WHAT DO WE HAVE…….a bureaucracy of medical red tape that might never be fixed.
pop diesel says
ONLY DO THE ORGANIZING SOME PLACE OTHER THAN AMERICA…HOW ABOUT FRONT LINE WORKING FOR YOUR TERRORIST MUSLIM SCUM BAG BUDDS….ON THE FRONT LINE…WEAPONLESS ‘CAUSE YOU DON’T BELIEVE IN THE RIGHT TO BARE ARMS…. LETS SEE HOW THAT’LL WORK OUT FOR YOU. WE CAN ONLY HOPE !!
Gerry says
Or go cause more division of races in Kenya or go sell some more solar panels to Eskimos in Alaska.
Steve says
You are right, Obama is a friggen arse that not only should be impeached but also hanged right on the White House lawn. There are many trees there that could bear his lying, treasonous ass for 15 minutes.
Jethros says
Yes!
Steve says
Like he is doing this for our good. I have something I would like to do for him that WILL be for our good!
K S Keck says
To Donald L Girton Your comment said it well. Thank you.
Jo Ann Kowalski says
I say let him organize a village in Iran but take his money he stole from ud Americans
tom says
Really no one saw this coming, His big program, his legacy going down the shitt$r just like everything else this man has touched in the last eight years. You can’t insure the multitudes without the cost going up, someone is going to have to pay, remind you of anything else you been hearing lately “FREE COLLEGE”, get a gripe you lazy a$$wipes out there nothing is free,”EVER”
Randy says
Well what can you expect from a Pathetic man housed in the white house surrounded by his Muslim czars and Liberal sheep. We would get the SAME with Hillary and more loss of freedoms not to mention economic anemia.
eyeball says
But HOW do we get the yella-dog liberals to SEE that? My hope is that the democrats who are truly ashamed and disgusted with this “presidency” will either stay home, or take the chance and vote “R” (that is, if Trump wins the nomination).
Neil Mahoney says
For those who fear Trump: Consider how similar Trump’s personality is to Teddy Roosevelt’s. TR is rated very highly by historians.
K S Keck says
I have read before where Trump was compared to Teddy and Teddy ruffled the establishment to. Teddy was a true patriot and I believe Trump is too. No one can deny Trump loves this country and wants to do all he can for it.
Elizabeth Smith says
Well he knew it was a lie from the get-go and has deceived the tax paying citizens from the very beginning. “Sign it first then you can read it” nightmare thanks to pelosi and her ilk. It has been kept hidden all this time, Barry Soetoro has hoodwinked this country again and again. Past time to scrap the total disaster return the money’s stollen from the taxpayers to them and pray the insurance companies will start up again with No more obsma anything crsp!!
Jeffrey says
You are so right! The sheeple don’t care because they don’t pay a dime because too many of them don’t even pay a dime in taxes! So what do they care, it’s the same as it has been all along, free medical care and welfare checks for doing nothing!
diane johnson says
Much like corporate welfare.
Steve says
Remember Diane, a lot of the corporate welfare loopholes were written into the tax laws by a Democrat controlled Congress!!!
Bolaji says
Look at that man’s face. He has been programmed to spew any lie told to him by the czars of NWO. He is a zombie and an embodiment of evil. It looks to me that his
programming commands him to call evil good and a lie the truth. Take a good look at him. He has sold his soul to NWO. My question to him is it worth it Mr Obama ? Seeing that a majority of the God-fearing people in the USA hate you with a perfect hatred for selling us out?
diane johnson says
I did some research on Obamacare and it is in fact a republican plan that was endorsed by Obama.
Don says
I didn’t know Pelosi wA a Republican
Carl says
You did some research? I would be interested in sources !
Belle says
Not a single Republican voted for the plan. It is totally owned by the Democrats.
Philip says
Where is your proof it’s a Republican plan?
It was Hillary’s plan, it was called Hillary care, when Obama The Blowhard got planted in the white house he just called it,
The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act/ AKA Obama Care.
Also got a lot of help from LYING Jonathan Gruber, called the people Stupid voters, wouldn’t know what it was going to do.
William says
You are full of shit you Obama troll.
Beverly Smith says
You did some research ….. Name your sources plz…When a statement is made like you just posted it deserves the back up source..otherwise it’s just more misleading Infirmation..old saying..Put your money where your mouth is..
Defend America says
No the plan was based on Romey’s program in Massachusetts with Obama adding and changing things to suit him.
dfinch says
It’s based on a plan that Mitt Romney had in Massachusetts. He didn’t write the bill He only signed it 6 months before he left office after making several changes to it and sending it back to the state congress. Obamacare used that guideline and Romney made it very clear that it would implode just because of the massive size of it. Mass. has a population just short of 7 million. The US has a population of around 320 million. As for the making of Obamacare, it was done strictly by democrats with no input by any republicans. No republicans voted for it. They saw the avalanche starting.
kathy says
and another big lie he told was that if you have per-existing health issues you will be covered… not true! yes you can get insurance but you have no guarantee that the insurance company will pay for anything for you. happened to my husband. fighting with his supplemental insurance now. what a nightmare! thanks Berry. NOT!
Tony Whitehead says
This is long overdue. Obamacare should have never been approved in the first place so a collapse is the best news out of Washington in a long time. The only thing better would be for Hillary and Obama to be indicted.
Buster says
Tony Whitehead, now that would be GREAT news. not just good.
Philip says
AGREED!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bolaji says
It ought not to have seen the light of day. But because they need some huge white elephant project to waste our resources on.just so they can bring an economic collapse upon us to pursue their NWO agenda
Jerry Todd says
Repeal and Replace – An Easy Replacement for Obamacare – But no one listens…
Any health care plan must have more than a political foundation, but one that parallels the astounding success of the American economy because of its Founding Principles. Any program dominated by the Federal government, costs up to $4 in taxes and new national debt for every $1 that reaches the one in need.
A summary of a complete health care plan that can be easily fleshed out in 20 to 100 pages.
1) Mandates. All Federal requirements for inclusion in health care policies are hereby repealed.
2) The decision to purchase health insurance is an individual choice
3) Employers have a choice to provide health insurance as part of employee benefit programs.
4) The cost of health care insurance benefits provided shall be exempt from taxation of any kind.
5) The provision of health insurance is a commercial activity, including health savings accounts to be managed by the individual states with these exceptions:
a) Reciprocity. Each state must recognize insurance policies purchased in other states.
b) Citizens/residents of any state may purchase health insurance in any state.
c) The US Department of Commerce shall not regulate the processes and procedures.
6) Consumers may choose health care insurance ala carte costed-out on an individual basis.
7) Types of health insurance policies.
a) Minimal insurance to cover emergency medical treatment.
b) Well care plus emergency medical care.
c) Basic general plans to cover well care, emergency medical care and routine ongoing medical treatments including doctor office visits, testing, and follow up care.
d) Insurance companies may offer limited, temporary insurance at the catastrophic care level.
8) The regulatory process is a state, not a Federal responsibility
9) Federal funding of medical care cannot efficiently, compassionately or economically accomplish optimum care of the individual except as a last resort under major medical and catastrophic care.
10) All health care-health service providers shall provide lifesaving treatments in emergency situations whether the patient has health insurance or not.
11) The patient shall be fully responsible to pay for compensating the health care provider for services rendered.
12) Religious and fraternal institutions will not be discouraged from covering such treatment costs, including paying for such services to a third party provider.
13) Medical professionals and institutions along with family or community care givers may not be prohibited from providing pro bono services to the helpless and indigent.
14) Tort Reform – Americans longing to return to excellence, accessibility, and affordability in health care will emulate the positive effects tort reform has on malpractice liability in the state of Texas.
15) Individuals and families benefiting from emergency and healing care paid by others will be encouraged/required to compensate or “pay it forward” to the benefit of others in a like situation.
16) Matters of Faith – No health care provider, and no resident of the United States shall be compelled to provide services or to participate in a health care program that the individual says violates his or her beliefs.
17) No individual or institution shall be required to violate their respect for or belief in the sanctity of human life from conception to natural death.
18) Alternatives to commercial health insurance – Communal, religious affiliated, specialized group, or collective assurance associations may develop and operate membership health care programs, as allowed by laws of the state wherein formed. These plans shall have the same force and full reciprocity among the States.
Medical care functions best with a philosophy of love and responsibility for the welfare of others.
“It will be of little avail to the people that the laws are made by men of their own choice, if the laws be so voluminous that they cannot be read, or so incoherent that they cannot be understood; if they be repealed or revised before they are promulgated, or undergo such incessant changes that no man who knows what the law is today can guess what it will be to-morrow.” –James Madison, Federalist No. 62, 1788
Does a 2,700 page Obamacare bill fit this description?
George says
The main business we need to get our government out of is the “Unprovoked War” business.That and the bankster bailouts are the main reasons we’re broke.
dfinch says
The banksters bailout???? If you’re talking about Tarp then that was paid back a few years ago. It may happen again but the original was paid back.
sreynolds says
Good post. This implosion is NOT by accident. Cloward and Piven spelled it out years ago and we are watching it unfold. Mat already be too late to correct.
Carl says
Good points Jerry, The problem is you are going against the Progressive agenda of CONTROL of health care. Part of the road to total Socialism is TOTAL CONTROL. We are almost there. Just as soon as the Bill of Rights is erased, which is under review in the highest legislative body in the Nation, AKA SCOTUS, Then the POTUS can truly be crowned as THE DEAR LEADER. ” WHAT ! ME WORRY?”
Paul says
What about people with pre-existing medical conditions? Will they be turned away ? It’s easy for people to say that’s their problem not mine. The American way is to help everyone not only the ones that can afford it. Millions of stories out there of Lives being saved because of the Affordable Care Act. Only problem is it cut into the insurance companies profits
Charles Lindstrom says
You are so right. The main ones suffering under Obmacare are the insurance companies
Lets get the insurance companies out of the healthcare business altogether and set up something that the taxpayers pay for and then receive the benefits. Other countries do it, why not us as being about the only ‘civilized’ country that does not offer its citizens free national healthcare. Of course, we would pay for it with an increase in a tax but better that than a group of bloated insurance companies and their bond holders making money on people who actually need healthcare. In spite of all the rumormongering about British healthcare, I know several Brits who, had it not been for National Healthcare there, would be long dead and it is not breaking their pockets to pay for it. Wake up, America! The Republicans want Obamacare out so they can enrich themselves with their puchases of the insurance companies stocks and bonds. Another thing, the insurance premiums are so high now so as to pay for those who get free treatment – ie., transients, homeless, illegals etc etc. Lt everybody pay some form of tax, whether rich or poor to cover the national insurance! Another thing, why can’t we get medicare benefits living outside of the US – we worked in the US all our lives (I was born in the US)paid into the system, but we cannnot receive medicare benefits if we choose to live our retirement elsewhere even when costs in accredited foreign hospitals are about 10 to 25% of the same treatment in the US. BS !!
atilter says
a very well known practice in medicine as the ultimate ALTERNATIVE to an illness that is virtually INCURABLE is – – AMPUTATION – to preserve the host body for a bit longer. social medicine is nice – but is not practical on almost every level. too many people have to contend with their own medical problems. they have to realize that try, as people might, many other people must contend with their own limited resources to worry about every other person.
K S Keck says
To Jerry Todd Your statement is so good I copied and pasted it to send my Federal Representatives a copy. I will give you credit. Thank you for taking time to write this comment. Really this could be the whole bill to repeal and replace. Factual and simple is the only way to go!
Jerry says
They were told, The Communist Progressives had to try to control everything. It ruined 40 hour work weeks, It took away any possible overtime pay. Insurance does not work anymore it covers nothing unless you need surgery. What we need is to open up insurance to all states let the people buy their own insurance, Get the Drugs from Canada, Instead of the secret deal Obama made with the drug Companies. Then anyone that cannot afford healthcare, Have a program for them. Get the Government out of the Insurance and healthcare business. The Government under Obama does nothing well. We need to wipe away everything this Lying terrorist traitor has done to America
Rich says
Well said Jerry
John says
Why is this surprising to anyone?
We all knew it was a piece of CRAP!
Arthur Hartsock says
Just remember, Mr. Cruz fought very hard-without much support- against this ObamaCare. And his opponents in the Presidential race have used this against him. Just remember!!
George says
Like our country.
David Len Allen says
We need a three-tier system. 1) An open market for self-pay; 2) A corporate-pay PPO network for employees, and 3) one for medicaid or no coverage–county clinics run by the state health department. I’m not sure about medicare (as I quickly fall into that category.) And no heroic/extraordinary medical procedures for those on state medicaid. Of corse we also need to work on the 14th Amendment regarding citizenship, birthright and such. Take a cue from Jewish heritage: citizenship is passed on to the child through the mother since she’s the only parent we can verify with certainty. If you’re here on a green card, then your new American-born baby is also on a green card. Citizenship can be granted through a process of parents’ citizenship verification and tax returns/social security records. (This can be done during the pre-natal period.) This is related, but off topic, to would-be-presidential candidates not born on native soil. If both parents are US citizens you’re okay. If your dad is but mom isn’t, make sure you’re born on US territory or you assume the citizenship of your mother. US military and diplomats and the like are obvious exceptions.
Joseph F. Kasper MD says
I left Family Medicine Practice after almost 20 years as a Family Physician. I HAD to! I could not afford to stay in practice unless I sold out to one of the Major Hospital Corporations and became their employee to be told what to do, when to do it, what to prescribe, how to treat patients, etc. etc. This is long and you may not want to read it or even believe it. However, it is the Truth of what’s happening from an insider. Obamacare Has KILLED the Practice Of Medicine for which I spent 10 years studying and training. It has been turned into the Application of Healthcare as dictated by Obamacare Gov’t officials and Insurance Carriers – Like United! Don’t let United or any of these large insurance carriers fool you. Though they may be losing on the Obamacare Exchanges – They are the ones whose Lawyers and CEOs were at the table designing Obamacare. I know for a fact because at one time I was employed here by HCA which is United’s subsidiary which owns Hospitals and Outpatient clinics. DUring that time the CEO was proudly sending Emails to ALL employess about how He was helping draft and implement the new ACA(Obamacare). When i complained by email about this new ACA and how it would adversely affect the Practice of Medicine, I was immediately sent an email from the Company Lawyer telling me that I would be sued if I sent any more emails and that I was no longer allowed to access the United employee email system!! You are being fooled if you think for a second your Physician is making decisions now based on his best Medical Assessment. He/She is being forced to make decisions many times that they know are not the best Medicine wise for you, but the Corporation or the Gov’t are forcing them to make. Obamacare isn’t the only thing that needs to go. The Large Corporation Takeover of Medicine needs to be Destroyed. They are making Billions in Profits, at the expense of the Physicians and Patients. They are kept in this position because of their Paid for Political influence in Washington and the States. What we need in addition to an abolishment of Obamacare, is an “Any Willing Provider Law” in EVERY state so that You as a Patient are not FORCED to have to go to one particular provider or hospital or clinic versus others. When you get referred now to a specialist and your Primary Care Provider/Physician(PCP) is employed by a certain Health Corporation or Hospital(Vast Majority of PCPs now), you will be referred to an in network specialist ONLY. They typically now have a referral service that you have to call for the Corporation/Hospital and THEY determine who you see, and NOT your PCP. Who they refer you to typically is a New Specialist employed by them that need to build their practice and NOT the Specialist that may be best for you and your Medical issue. This is NOT MEDICINE, it is Cost Containment and Revenue Generation at the expense of the Patient’s proper Healthcare! The Government is doing the same with Medicaid and Medicare. You just have to look at the VA scandals as proof of that. I am now running a very small solo practice for cash only and seeing most of my Patients who cannot afford care for free. I have developed a second career now that pays the bills and supports my Family better than Family Medicine Practice can now. Unfortunately ALL those years of Education, Training and Practicing Family Medicine are now being used for my Hobby now. It’s the end of the “Practice of Medicine” with Patient centered care between a Physician and Patient without 3rd party interference. You all deserve to know the facts!
Beverly Smith says
Reference Dr. Joseph Kasper..my Daughter in law recently has had to reduce her practice because she lost money on many patients as soon as they walked in the door..this is NOT the reason she went into practice..years of study..years of lost sleep..sustaining herself on Ramen Noodles..thousands of dollars in debt..we’re not her attraction..it was solely her ability to help people..to make their lives better..to save a life..made all her sacrifices worth it..I am sorry how things did not exactly work out for you..you sound like a dedicated Doctor..I PRAY AN ACCEPTABLE POSITION IS IN DR. CARSON’S FUTURE..I feel he has so much to offer to the people of America..GOD BLESS MY BELOVED COUNTRY..
asperus Hermann says
What well happen to the millions Obama pay out to get it passed?
Mae says
Our votes don’t count at all. Why go to the poles? If we want it to count we have to become a delegate. They vote the way they want and not necessarily for their own party. I wonder how many of them have accepted a bribe. The whole country is illegal, but I would still rather live here than somewhere else.
Tony says
Mae , obviously you have never heard of a country called Australia ,the greatest country on earth.
Papa Joe says
Jerry Todd. A most thoughtful input. I hope someone in the Congress gets a copy of your comments.
Jan says
The Obama care problems don’t surprise me. I’m one of the millions caught in the middle. Too young to get Medicare and too old to get a job with benefits. It’s been a nightmare. It has cost me a great deal of money. Good riddance Obama care.
George Nelson says
Nazi Pelosi said: “Let’s pass it, so we can see what’s in it”. Is it any wonder that this health-care abortion is already coming apart at the seams???
Jo says
Whoever heard of you have to sign before you read a document boy, oh boy did you all get fooled by Pelosi and her cronies have you asked her if she would sign a document before reading it she fooled everyone and so did the others in the democratic party they knew what was going down too bad the people in this country are so stupid. Would you buy a car w/o taking it for a run and having it checked out by a mechanic to make sure you were not buying a dud. Pelosi had you all fooled who would sign a document w/o reading it. If you don’t read what you sign you are a bigger fool than one thought.
Republican for health care says
This is a good thing. The system needs to collapse with all private insurers gone. That leaves only the Gov’t to provide health care which is how it should have been 200 years ago. A single payer system is better than what we have now but still only a step towards full socialized health care which is what we all deserve.
Constitutionalist says
Republican for health care-
A single payer system is better than what we have now but still only a step towards full socialized health care which is what we all deserve.
Really? “deserve”?
i don’t believe that Our Creator endowed us with a Right to healthcare. i also cannot find ANY portion of the Constitution which would authorize it, ESPECIALLY from any gov’t actor or group thereof. Perhaps you know the Constitution better than myself, and would be so kind as to point out what i missed, eh? And if you want to refer to the phrase “general welfare,” first, i have several citations from the F&F to swiftly refute what would be an OBVIOUS misconstruction of the Constitution, and second, i’d have to remind you to read and RE-read, as often as need be ’til it sinks in, the Preamble to the Bill of Rights, then the 9th and 10th Amendments. Just like a Codacil to a Will, the content of the Amendments MODIFIES and CORRECTS the body of the Constitution, the same way a Codacil does.
So you’d be a PRIME example of a RINO, because you seem to have little-to-NO-understanding of the essential differences between a Democracy(nowhere mentioned in the Constitution, btw) and a Constitutional Republic.
oren says
No news here folks, move along. This was predicted the night the ACA was passed. The plan has accomplished it’s goals. Destroy the health care providers and establish a single payer health care system run by the inept government. Another disaster in the making.
Havsumtea says
The fibnal words here are “mission accomplished”., The plan was to overburden the system and drive us all into a single payer system run totally by the government. Ergo…..total control. It was only a matter of time. I’m frankly surprised it came so soon., Obummer is still in office.
Constitutionalist says
i tried long and hard to convince a LOT of people that D’OweBamacare was(and is) COMPLETELY Unconstitutional, despite SCOTUS ruling that it’s “legal as a tax.” Oh, yeah? Show me the word “health” ANYwhere in the Constitution. Anywhere at all. What’s that? Crickets? Damn right.
Next, show me ANYplace in the Constitution where ANY general government actor gets to order ANY American to purchase ANYthing from ANYone at ANY time for ANY reason….i’m WAITing….oh yeah, not there, huh?
So lets just make a great leap and presume that SCOTUS ruled correctly: It’s “legal as a tax.” (i disagree, but for the sake of argument…)
How many people here know that ALL BILLS FOR REVENUE(aka “taxes”) MUST originate in the House of Representatives? Further, how many know that D’OweBamacare originated in the SENATE!?
i’m quite happy that i refused to participate to the slightest degree with this unconscionable abomination, this UNconstitutonal D’OweBamaNation. Damn their “fees” and “fines” straight to the demonic devil’s hell from which they fetidly arose, the stench clinging to them and all who “volunteered” to remain stupidly ignorant of the LIMITATIONS placed on ALL officeholders by the doc to which they ALL swear their fealty, the Constitution FOR the United States of America. (“of” implies origination; this doc was meant to DEFINE and LIMIT what powers could be LAWFULLY exercised by sworn officeholders; FOR SURE, no government official wrote it, and FOR CERTAIN, none would lawfully hold the office without first submitting to their Oath of Office). They are NOT our masters. We are our OWN masters.
“The people are Sovereign. …at the Revolution, the sovereignty devolved on the people; and they are truly the sovereigns of the country, but they are sovereigns without subjects…with none to govern but themselves; the citizens of America are equal as fellow citizens, and as joint tenants in the sovereignty.”
— Chisholm v. Georgia
Source: (US) 2 Dall 419, 454, 1 L Ed 440, 455 @Dall 1793 pp471-472
Bolt Upright says
Big deal. To save the planet, people with the Liberal genetic condition say there are too many humans on the planet.
Steve Mullins says
Among others in public authority, Senator Orrin Hatch has stated that O-Care was DESIGNED to fail as an intermediate step toward a “single-payer” system – one more step toward total socialism, goverenment paying for (and controlling) everything, the true goal of the “establishment elite”, AKA, the international bankers, AKA, the Federal Reserve (a non-government banking cabal), and others of their ilk, such as the Rockefellers. It was Nicholas Rockefeller himself that stated in an interview with Aaron Russo (before Aaron was killed off for telling the truth in a great video called “AMERICA: FREEDOM TO FASCISM”, available on You Tube) that it was the ultimate goal of the banking elite to “rule the world” and get everybody “chipped” with a micro chip that would place you under their control for everything you buy and do. O-Care is just one more step in their New World Order agenda. Your best and only weapons are email, You Tube and talk radio. USE THEM, READER. Find good links, send them to your friends, and talk it up. We have no OFFICIAL voice with which to redress our grievances with our government.
The gentleman above, citing Constitutional reasons why O-Care is illegal is RIGHT ON.
God help us all.
Don says
Hey, what can you really expect from the country’s FIRST ‘ Affirmmative Action’ President.
Everything in his life was handed to him on a silver platter, (as well as his wife, Moochie) and in his mind, that is the way the world operates. This is VERY EVIDENT in his arrogance and pride facade that he has built around himself.
In reality, one has to wonder if he doesn’t go back to his bedroom at night and break down in tears, in knowledge of his own stupidity.
WHEN his signature health care plan implodes, will Obammy implode with it as well???? (we can only hope so, especially in the knowledge of how far he has gone in attempting to destroy this ‘ONCE’ great country.
Steve Mullins says
To quote from Ronald Reagan with a slight alteration: “Obamacare has earned a rebellion; it’s time we gave them one.”
Another quote from Reagan, just so you know that HE knew who was really running the country: “THE FEDERAL RESERVE IS ANSWERABLE TO NO ONE, NOT EVEN THE PRESIDENT.” Since they’re not answerable to anyone, guess who’s really (secretly) running the country? They have all the money in the world to buy their own silence. We have the best public press money can bribe (AP, CNN, all of them). The FED is a private banking cabal, NOT a government agency! You didn’t know that? They’re a huge consortium of banks and banks have one agenda: to make money, and the people are its one and only customer. It’s been that way since Woodrow Wilson signed the FEDERAL RESERVE ACT into law in December, 1913. They’ve been secretly raping this country’s citizens of their wealth for their own greed, profit and power for the past 103 years. It’s the best kept secret in our nation’s history. This is way above Republican vs. Democrat. Look it up on You Tube, then send links to everyone. They’ve never been audited despite many legislative attempts to bring them to account. They’re not even in the government pages in the phone book!
Constitutionalist says
Steve-
“THE FEDERAL RESERVE IS ANSWERABLE TO NO ONE, NOT EVEN THE PRESIDENT.” Since they’re not answerable to anyone, guess who’s really (secretly) running the country?
Actually, the Federal Reserve board DOES answer to several someones: their OWNERS.
“It must not be felt that these heads of the world’s chief central banks were themselves substantive powers in world finance. They were not. Rather, they were the technicians and agents of the dominant investment bankers of their own countries, who had raised them up and were perfectly capable of throwing them down. The substantive financial powers of the world were in the hands of these investment bankers (also called ‘international’ or ‘merchant’ bankers) who remained largely behind the scenes in their own unincorporated private banks. These formed a system of international cooperation and national dominance which was more private, more powerful, and more secret than that of their agents in the central banks…”
– Professor Carroll Quigley, Tragedy and Hope: A History of the World in Our Time, 1966
Quigley was also mentor to one William Clinton – and afaik, the ONLY professor to ever be mentioned during a DNC speech.
Steve Mullins says
Well said, Don.
Obama, aka, Barry Soetoro, is a gay, drug-taking Muslim (confirmed on credible You Tube documentaries), handpicked by the secret elite to be the next president. HIs election, just like all this year’s election shenanigans, is just political theater. Hillary is their next pick and she will be ushered past all of her controversies, just like Bill was (he was IMPEACHED and given a free pass), and she will win by a narrow majority, made to LOOK like a real election. You read it here. Go look up HILLARY EXPOSED, and a host of other credible videos on her past,. and send them to everyone you know.
Beth says
This news comes as no surprise to me nor should it to most people with any common sense. I have paid “extra” dollars every year since this idiotic plan was created to help cover the insurance premiums of those who already had “free” healthcare as it was. The IRS overseeing the plan just added to my frustration. Thanks to Obamacare I do make a lot less then I use to and yet I still pay an average of 23% more annually in premiums so I can subsidize the plan.
While I understand the premise of having health care for all individuals, we have to use some common sense about it. Some people in this country don’t deserve (or should I say haven’t earned) the federal or state benefits available. At what point are we going to hold people responsible for making themselves a contributing member of society. Get off you lazy ass, quit popping out baby after baby, get your citizenship and quit ruining the rest of our lives! I don’t get handouts so I expect there to be more “controls” as to who is getting these free benefits.
At this point I wonder if I’m living my life all wrong. Maybe I should quit by job and ask the government to take care of me as well. Seems to be working well for these people. They drive newer cars then me, have government programs to get them into houses they can’t afford (so wait for the next bank crash to come again in the next year or two), and constantly ask what other benefits can the get for free.
Damn it sucks to be a responsible American citizen these days! I just can’t be any other way. I believe in the personal satisfaction of working for what I have. I don’t want nor expect my government or more importantly my fellow citizens to “take care” of me. I believe in doing my part to help my fellow man, but not at the expense of killing the honest and hard working citizens of this great country.
With the election coming soon I hope EVERYONE takes the time to cast the ballot for who they honestly think will return the US to its former glory days. Enough of the handouts. Repel Obamacare and make common sense decisions for a change! It’s definitely time for a change of mentality in our government officials.
Rich says
If Hillary is elected this shit will continue because she is up Obozo s ass. It’s time for Trump to run this country like a business not for these gouvernment s personal piggy bank and running this country in the ground. The rest of the world just laughs at Obozo and the rest of his cronies because they don’t have a clue, how many TRILLIONS are we in debt 20+. Look at top Muslim Obozo on how many Muslims he has put into government positions he is out to destroy our country anyway he can
L.Stacey says
The Affordable Care Act was not well thought out or researched to make it successful. What does Barack Obama have in his background that makes him an expert on healthcare and the insurance industry. This one term senator has taken over our country with his executive orders and over-stepping his boundaries, challenging state’s rights and individual rights with the Syrian refugees and immigration. Without an oversight committee or a group of individuals from insurance, healthcare providers, doctors, nurses giving input, he set up a system destined to collapse. What good is a new and improved health system without cost containment? Cost as in medical care and other considerations. By setting up a structure for pre-existing conditions, the insurance companies were overloaded with seriously ill patients with high medical costs. The insurance industry works under the underwriting principle and reinsurance, spreading the risk among companies through ceded contracts. The industry took on too much loss at once and need to cut the loss before the company gets taken down. If Obama knew about insurance and the inner operations, he would have a better operating Affordable Care Act. Instead we have an In-affordable Care Act and companies ready to collapse. It would be better had he left our system alone.
Constitutionalist says
L.Stacey-
IMO, what would have been BEST is for more voters to have been Constitutionally literate, to have demanded answers to the questions concerning his eligibility ab initio, then to have never voted for the Unconstitutional Usurper in the first place.
But i suppose that much of America and the world was so emotionally invested in “Hey, the First Black president!” hysteria that it just didn’t matter whether or not he was qualified, to them. Now, the reaping of what was sown in ignorance comes to pass – or IS coming; we don’t know what FURTHER outrages he plans to commit before his Illegal Occupancy ends.
Lorraine E says
The plan has been for obamacare to collapse since day one. After it crashes BHO can then implement a federal one payer system for all medical care – the federal government will control everything. More “fundamental change.”
Gerry says
There were a whole lot of people who said this would happen when it was first brought on the scene. Just how ignorant can demoRATS be to ignore every danger signal and blindly pass it just because of some air head female who has made the most ridiculous statements and proven her ignorance every time she opens her mouth. This is, OR SHOULD BE, totally unforgivable and EVERY demoRAT should be voted out of office ASAP.
Justin W says
My insurance premium has doubled since the “Affordable” Care Act was enacted. More state tax dollars are going to fund the Medicaid programs.
Obamacare is nothing more than another expensive bureaucratic program. If the smoke and mirrors were pulled away from this program it would be easy to see how flawed the program is. Obamacare was based on a late of erroneous assumptions. Health care costs aren’t falling. On the other end of the equation health care providers are feeling the squeeze. Several doctors in our area have retired rather than deal with the problem. The hospital in my town has laid off a large number of its employees due to the slow payment schedule for medicare and medicaid patients and the partial payments for services rendered.
Obamacare is a failure just like its namesake.
Cy Coe says
Take the loss out of Obamas retired compensation package. This fiasco is his doing entirely.
Texas Son says
Well…..haste makes waste.
Kent Powers says
I just cannot imagine how, why, or who would be dumb enough to vote for a bill of this immense stupidity, or what level of ignorance it takes for someone to vote for those who proposed, shoved it down our throats, then sit back & brag about it’s failures. Not one of the promises, ideas, money savings, healthcare sign -ups, web site, & even healthcare itself have been able to survive this catastrophe. Thank God not even one Republican voted for this disaster, it is a monumental Democratic party cluster f— of unbelievable proportions. We and all future generations will pay more in taxes, more for insurance, & much more for very much worse healthcare, thanks a lot idiots, don’t we all wish we had the healthcare all your congressmen, judges, president, cabinet officers & yes our Muslim citizens have, exactly what they had before they did this to us.
Fed Up says
I have read all of the above comments regarding Obama, Obamacare and Hillary and all of his crying and whining won’t help get this country out of the hole that these bastards have put it in. The Democrats do not care what happens to this country as long as they can stay in power and fill their greedy pockets. They will and have done everything they can to buy enough votes from the mindless, lazy , “what can you give me for free?” voters to turn this country into a socialist nightmare . If , God forbid, the voters are so stupid this time to vote Hillary in, then we are doomed as a free nation. She will load the Supreme Court with liberals and you can kiss the 2nd Amendment goodbye. When the government comes after everyone’s guns, then it will be just like Hitler in Germany, only it will not be selective as to one race, but everyone will be under the government’s thumb because no one will be able to resist.
It is time for the people to stop talking and actually DO SOMETHING!