Dutch investigators have just released their finding that Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 (MH17) was indeed downed by a Russian surface-to-air missile as it was flying over the Ukraine last year — something that Russia has long denied.
The Boeing 777 was struck by a Russian-made 9М38M1 Buk missile as it flew over eastern Ukraine on July 17, 2014, killing all 298 people on board.
The investigators also concluded that the Russian-made missile was fired from Snizhne, a village that was under Russian rebel control. An Associated Press reporter saw a Buk missile system in that vicinity on the same day. While the investigators concluded that the plane shouldn’t have been flying over the area, given the escalating conflict, they said “nobody gave any thought” to the risk that Russian-backed troops would open fire. They Dutch investigation have previously confirmed the anti-aircraft battery the missile was fired from was also Russian.
The report, issued Tuesday when Dutch investigators unveiled a ghostly reconstruction of the forward section of MH17, says a missile exploded less than one meter (3.3 feet) outside the cockpit, killing three crew members inside and breaking off the forward section of the plane.
Safety Board chairman Tjibbe Joustra said the 15-month investigation found the warhead that was used on a Buk surface-to-air missile system was also Russian in origin.
Some of the nose, cockpit and business class of the Boeing 777 were rebuilt from fragments of the aircraft recovered from the crash scene and flown to Gilze-Rijen air base in southern Netherlands.
A group of journalists fell silent as the reassembled wreckage, much of it twisted and riddled with holes, was presented.
Rob Fredriksz, whose son Bryce was killed when MH17 was shot down, says he was relieved to hear that those on board the stricken plane likely died almost instantly.
He says the key findings presented to families were, “That it was a Buk missile, made in Russia. That was clearly indicated. That Ukraine should have closed the air space and that the passengers absolutely felt and knew nothing.”
He says some family members became emotional when they were shown an animation portraying the downing of the plane.
Robby Oehlers, whose cousin Daisy was among those killed when the Boeing 777 was shot down, said it was “as quiet as a mouse” as Dutch Safety Board chairman Tjibbe Joustra explained the conclusions to the families.
A video of the breakdown is below:
The Associated Press contributed to this article
Wow, 15 months to confirm what most people interested already knew. Putin also knew immediately his supporters were responsible. The question I have is “what difference does it make at this point?”. Putin is just laughing at the world that will do nothing about his actions.
rodney burke says
subtle retaliation sholud take place. maybe a village the size of the passenger list?
Fredrick Rehders says
Yeah, Rodney… killing more innocents will send the message to Putin that we can be just as callous and disrespectful of human life as he is.
Dr Bob says
Brilliant! Then 296 more innocent people die! What possible good will that do?
Why do that and kill innocents who had nothing to do with it? This is between 2 governments and it should be handled between the governments. Putin is a jerk and everyone knows it and Obama is a man who doesn’t know how to govern so nothing will be done. End of Story! Should never have been made public if nothing will be done.
Exactly! What will the world do? What can the world do? Nothing!
That was only the begining to what is takeing place now in syria he is baisically doing the same thing first civilan passengers now rebel fighters that we trained not to mention hour after mtg his general told who ever to stay out of there way I couldn’t just sit there knowing we the usa most powerful nation to come into existence let someone disrespect us like that .I apolligize to the american people and milatary.This nation needs to look back at what made us a great nation and what we stand for and ask God to be paitent with us and give us grace and mercy and direction to save this nation.He has the answer.
it was bound to happen sooner or later. look at revelations. Putin is the king of the north and Obama is the king of the south. sooner or later we will be at war with Russia.it doesn’t look good folks
Tommy Kelly says
In that case, ba-bye, cruel world.
Total bollocks. The Buk missile would leave a trail seen for 50 miles around. Nobody recorded or witnessed any such trail. Only Kiev was in charge of the path of Flight MH17 and its altitude: directed north from its customary path and asked to fly at a lower altitude. Simple incontrovertible evidence contradicts the “official” Dutch report. In addition, because NATO was involved in the Ukraine and the Dutch are a member of NATO, they are complicit in the crime and invited the government of Ukraine to participate in the investigation with veto privileges, the report is clearly an example of a criminal element “investigating” itself for grievous crimes against humanity. The criminals who terrorized Ukraine and usurped the elected government of Ukraine were joined by their partners in the crime to do the official investigation on their crime. What else could you expect?
Jagged Edge says
It is unbelievable to what extent NATO and it’s ‘ALLIES’ ( Israel, etc.) will go to in order to Implicate Putin’s Russia in that dastardly act. Why, you ask ? Simply to try to Drag us Dumb Americans into yet another War for the Zionist. How dumb are we going to allow ourselves to be portrayed before we decide to wake up ? Clearly, the Zionist have been determined to get even with Russia for running them all out of Russia with barely their lives. Now they think that they now have a zipper on the USA . Well, That is a big mistake as we are waking up and Will fight back..and we will Win.
What do you mean a zipper in the United Stats. Obama has done nothing at all to help Israel. He hate them.
Viola Perry says
Anyone could have gotten a hold of such a nuke and put the blame on the Russians. Odd is, that the crash site was changed several times but FOX News showed at 11 AM that day that it just barely cleared the Poland’s border, putting it in the zone of the Ukrainians voting for the EU. Do not forget, wars bring money to the rich, so they will do whatever it takes to keep the mess going.
Propaganda. Putin has said in the past that he could prove it was not Russia that did this, and the US gov would not listen. I think someone is really wanting to start WWIII and I don’t think it’s Putin. O just sent arms to the Jihadists to use against Russia and Syria. Is this crazy? Jihadists are our enemy. We do not have the troops, money or will to fight Russia and China. I am not the smartest person but I believe “stupid is as stupid does”, and there seems to be a lot of stupidity going around in this country.
Fredrick Rehders says
Run, Forest, RUN!
Dumb comment, Frederick.
Tommy Kelly says
Not nearly as dumb as YOUR earlier comment.
I really dont believe that this plane was shot down by Russia..No matter what the report says..I have just recently watched the recent UN talks, where Putin speaks about peace, asks why we are creating war and conflict all over the world that just comes back to bite us in the butt..asks why we are always trying to create fear. He seems a reasonable man, who is wanting to unite with the world in global peace..who is trying to eliminate ISIS to eliminate global fear. No..This is one of our false flag events..trying to confuse and alienate us to Russia. We just bombed a hospital in Afganistan..which was not proven to have any terrorists..I think we are responsible for the missing plane too! That plane ..according to the on board roster..contained several people “of interest” to our government. I can see why they wanted the plane to go missing. We are responsible for bad things too..Are we not reading the news these days?
Tommy Kelly says
You, sheree, are one kookaburra lady.
Sheree, Putin doesn’t know hat the word peace means. Look at his actions in Syria, he is trying and will succeed in being the strong power in the Middle East. He is making a fool of us.
The criminals who terrorized Ukraine and usurped the elected government of Ukraine were joined by their partners in the crime to do the official investigation on their crime. What else could you expect? The Buk missile would leave a trail seen for 50 miles (80 kilometers) around. Nobody recorded or witnessed any such trail. Only Kiev was in charge of the path of Flight MH17 and its altitude: directed north from its customary path and asked to fly at a lower altitude. Simple incontrovertible evidence contradicts the “official” Dutch report. In addition, because NATO was involved in the Ukraine and the Dutch are a member of NATO, they are complicit in the crime and invited the government of Ukraine to participate in the investigation with veto privileges, the report is clearly an example of a criminal element “investigating” itself for grievous crimes against humanity.
Tommy Kelly says
ANOTHER asylum escapee.
Jo Yang says
Agreed that it was a Russian-built Buk M1 ground to air missile that shot down the plane. But it was the Ukrainian military which fired the missile over the area which MH17 was ordered by Ukrainian Air Traffic Control to fly over at a 1000 ft lower in height. By the way where is the ATC recording between between MH17 and ATC?
The Buk missile would leave a trail seen for 50 miles (80 kilometers) around. Nobody recorded or witnessed any such trail.
WRONG ANSWER there is NO proof RUSSIA THEMSELVES DID IT—STOP THE WAR HYSTERIA– MIKE JOHNSTOWN PA RET US RMY
This is pure nonsense. What the investigators stated is that the rocket appears to be of Russian origin, nothing more nothing less. Once again the media is blaming Russia and the brain-washed American people are believing every word. The reality is that the West had the motive and the means to implicate Russia and make Putin appear like a mass-murdering criminal. When the dust settles on this issue and the real facts emerge, I have no doubt that the US was behind this heinous act. Russia has gained the upper hand in world politics and the middle East so the West is once again engaged in damage control and desperately trying to make Russia appear like an out-of-control criminal government.
You Sir, are a freakin’ nutcase who will believe(or conjure-up) anything. You’re totally full of shit.
The Buk missile would leave a trail seen for 50 miles (80 kilometers) around. Nobody recorded or witnessed any such trail. Only Kiev was in charge of the path of Flight MH17 and its altitude: directed north from its customary path and asked to fly at a lower altitude. Simple incontrovertible evidence contradicts the “official” Dutch report.
Tommy Kelly says
Add “aarheart” to your freakin nutcases, Denis. Along with some other people here, all of whom must be Communist-loving anti-Americans. They all remind me of throwbacks to the 1920s and 1930s misguided Americans, who all thought Papa Joe was all that and a hot cup of Russian tea.
Some who are commenting need to go back and re-read the article :”Dutch investigators have just released their finding that Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 (MH17) was indeed downed by a Russian surface-to-air missile as it was flying over the Ukraine last year — something that Russia has long denied.
The Boeing 777 was struck by a Russian-made 9М38M1 Buk missile as it flew over eastern Ukraine on July 17, 2014, killing all 298 people on board.” I don’t read anything that says “APPEARS TO HAVE BEEN RUSSIAN.
It was Russian all the way and fired by Russian Rebels.
I would believe the Dutch Investigators way sooner than Putin.
I think there will be retribution and compensation at the World court in the Hague.
some people only see what they want to see
NATO was involved in the Ukraine and the Dutch are a member of NATO. Therefore they are complicit in the crime and invited the government of Ukraine to participate in the investigation with veto privileges. The report is clearly an example of a criminal element “investigating” itself for grievous crimes against humanity.
Tommy Kelly says
Yep. As Denis says, you, too, are a freakin’ nutcase.
Justin Wachin says
Once again we see the basic inhumanity of Vladimir Putin. The Soviet Union may no longer exist but this guy still acts like it does.
The Russians seem to be good at shooting down Boeing jets. Let’s not forget the Soviets shot down Korean Air Lines Flight 007 in 1983. Among the victims was a U.S. congressman. At the time it was reported by the Soviet Union that former president Richard Nixon had been scheduled to be aboard the flight.
Vladimir Putin’s attempts to annex Ukraine is reminiscent of Adolf Hitler’s annexation of Austria. Perhaps the question is whether Putin will be satisfied with Ukraine.
Looks more like the taking of Poland. The Austrians welcomed the German military in. Ukraine involves a retaliatory for. In Syria Russia supports the government, in Ukraine it supports the cessation of its eastern half. If this was a Russian missile it was no doubt fired by Ukrainian rebels.
Tommy Kelly says
“No doubt,” huh? I guess we should make “kevin” president of the world, since he obviously knows EVERYTHING!!!
KAL 007 was flying over Soviet military facilities, an illegal intrusion into sensitive sovereign territory and it carried spying gear to intercept Soviet communications or electronic activity. South Korea and its allies were guilty of those deaths.
Putin was not interested in annexing Ukraine, but when its legal, democratically-elected government was violently overthrown, the people of Crimea did not wish to be threatened and terrorized by the Right Sector thugs or their Zionist cronies, so they held a referendum to request annexation to the Russian Federation for their protection.
Tommy Kelly says
You must miss Joe Stalin VERY badly, aaheart. Well, at least you have wonderful thoughts of Vladimir P. to keep you warm in bed at night.
What a mess – so the rocket was launched from territory controlled by russian rebels, but why the article claims that russia shot it? it is like saying the US shot a plane when american-trained ‘god guys’ in Syria actually did. “They Dutch investigation have previously confirmed the anti-aircraft battery the missile was fired from was also Russian.” – I wonder what that one means. Surely if it was a Buk rocket, it was fired from a buk battery, how else? And they only were soviet-made. How do you determine if it BELONGED to russia as this statement claims? “the warhead that was used on a Buk surface-to-air missile system was also Russian in origin” of course, except it can only be Soviet and never made in post-Soviet Russia. To sum up, learn how to communicate facts, and do not relay junk information and knee-jerk reactions
Rev. Vernon York says
Enticing the various people of the world to slaughter each other in perpetual wars takes ongoing propaganda and a sales pitch to
brain wash generation after generation to fall for it. These wars are conceived, orchestrated and perpetuated by the international
anti Christ bankster cartels who commonly finance BOTH SIDES of the conflict, creating a tsunami of fraudulent debt. The end game is the GLOBALIST NEW WORLD ORDER AND ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT.
The various governments/politicians of the world are mere pawns/whores for these banksters and are more than happy to feed their own people to the war machine, shoot down civilian planes or professionally implode skyscrapers to carry out this agenda.(911). Remember, if your comments are TOO truthful, they are subject to being removed by today’s vastly controlled media sources.
agreed, if you are indeed a reverend, you have read revelations and know what is coming. this (to me) looks like the beginning of the end
Tommy Kelly says
We’ve HAD IT, Brenda.
Tommy Kelly says
As a man very active in the propaganda business, reverend, you should know.
Rev. Vernon York says
You know nothing about me or the “business” that you assume I am in. Unlike the goofballs in the media who “sport” the designation “reverend” I am the genuine article. “Reverend” simply comes from the word “reverence” which means ” respect”. Correspondingly I have spent the last 25 years practicing “respecting” the TRUTH wherever it can be found… ie reverend…one who respects.
FACTS ARE FACTS and are researchable and provable. Most people who hate the TRUTH, invariably resort to attacking the messenger instead of evaluating the message. History, Current Events, and prophesy all fit together like hand and glove, and none of which has anything to do with me personally or my activities.
I was fortunate to have a 6th grade teacher that taught me the meaning of propaganda over 50 years ago…probably before you were born, and TRUTH and propaganda are polar opposites.
Nevertheless the things we are seeing in these troubled times are being orchestrated, and those pulling the strings will most assuredly have to answer for their evil deeds one day.
You seem to know what you are talking about. Wonder how many others realize this? Hope there are more than I think.
Thank you for your insight -all that baffles me is that these facts are not common knowledge- I couldn’t agree more.
jack Long says
it would be helpful to know who gave the order to shoot. This is not the first passenger plane shot down by Russian fire in apparent response to standing orders regarding air space. Is this not the third airplane loss in recent weeks, Are the Russians not also engaged in an attack on our currency The Russians seem to be counting on us not to respond with a declaration of war, as we once did when a passenger ship was sunk by a U-boat. The question then is “What is our best response” I do not know the answer to that. A commission comprised of the Secretary of Defense, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Westmoeland, and John Wayne, is not a possibility. Any other Suggestions?
Seems to me that the United nations was formed to deal with these situations. But then we all know that it is a big joke.
Did you mean `deal with’ or `create these situations.’
Paul kristiansen says
What about the aeroplane shot down by the US about 20 years in South China seas and I wonder who shot down the Malaysian airline just before this one
” Any other Suggestions?”
Just forget this bombastic attitude – we now live in an age when both sides have nuclear weapons and you cannot depend upon a repeat of the sensible diplomatic approach of the Russians in the Cuba crisis that saved the world from a nuclear catastrophe on all occasions.
J.T. MacDonald says
How can anyone ( except Obama Democrats) say that it wasn’t Putin/Russia. Everything about the missile belonged to them. If it looks like a Duck Quacks like one and Smells like one , it is a Duck!!!
Not necessarily so J.T… Remember history when the white-man dressed up like Indians and slaughtered white outposts so that the new Americans would become uproarious and seek revenge on the Red-man? We’ll never know the truth because those who do will not reveal it then when history finally reveals it, it will come forth after “the war that will end all wars”..?
MR PALEO says
Reverand York, you show quite a bit of awareness, for a clergy member… lol….
Tommy Kelly says
Which is social media-speak for saying Reverend York sounds like he just woke up in time for his next sermon.
Rev. Vernon York says
Intelligence isn’t confined to those who have handed their minds over to the news media…lol
Fredrick Rehders says
I do not believe there are horrendous accidents in this era of New World Order. I think we are being played and I also remember the U.S. shooting down an Iranian passenger plane. So who is really pulling the strings on the puppet servants?
It has to be remembered when considering this report that Holland is a member of NATO and thus unlikely to condemn the West in its report. To say that the missile appeared to be of Russian manufacture may well be true but the Ukrainian government had been purchasing Russian weapons until this fairly recent severance brought about by the EU and NATO’s encroachment into the Russian sphere of influence, an area necessary to her own protection. Why too did not Ukraine declare the air-space above its territory a war zone not open to civil aircraft, a rather obvious precaution in the circumstances: at the very least it has to be recognised that the Ukrainian authorities contributed to the final disaster – it seems there is somewhat more to this than appears on the surface and calls for a totally independent -if that is possible- UN investigation.
Tommy Kelly says
A “UN investigation,” something not a great deal unlike the Nazi star chamber trials during World War II.
If the equipment originated in Russia, and Russia insists that they can prove that they didn’t fire it, maybe they should be asked to submit the proof or otherwise be found guilty.
It looks like a mistake by improperly trained military personnel. The plane was flying too low and someone ordered someone to shoot it. It is a great tragedy. Those responsible should be required to make sure it does not happen again. Friendly fire can cause great casualties as well. Someone should be allowed to investigate and find out whether or not it was a mistake, and if it was, express sincere condolences and get on with life. It is not worth causing a war resulting in even more loss of life. The Russians and Ukrainians should not be afraid to admit they made a mistake if such was the case. There is no doubt that the persons who are responsible feel terrible that this happened. However, the political climate may be such that the people responsible could be imprisoned or executed by an international court. There would be no motivation on the part of the Russians or Ukraine to shoot down this plane to start a war with Malaysia, Holland Dutch, or a percentage of people on board the aircraft. This was not an enemy plane. As the minister stated earlier in this blog, the people are being manipulated by the media and other warmongers.
Porter Sweden says
MH17 Downed by Missile Fired from Kiev-Controlled Territory – BUK Manufacturer
by RI Staff on Tue, Oct 13, 2015
BUK manufacturer Almaz-Antey has just published key findings of the crash of Malaysian flight MH17 which took place on July 17, 2014, in Eastern Ukraine, killing all 298 passengers and crew members onboard, among them 80 children. According to the firm, MH17 was downed by a missile fired from Kiev-controlled territory missile exploded 20 meters above portside area of engine, not starboard side of plane, as Dutch probe claimsmissile was an older version than previously thought because of the shape of the shrapnel holes found in the fuselage Dutch probe shows two types of strike elements, but there were threeBUK is ready to give their probe’s conclusion to European courts
No, it was the Russian dark cabals group that are associated with the west. Their craft shot down the mh17 then Russian jet fighter shot down the craft that shot the mh17.There is a you tube video made by the rebels that shown their video footage. This videos was already shown by independent news media that is not controlled by illuminati. The west always are the trouble makers the instigators. They are good in playing dumb. They are now getting scared. Somebody is now able to shut them up.
Peter Marks says
The worlds population will be cut in half were there to be WWIII. Is this what the world leaders are thinking of doing to cull the population so the living will have enough food and water to survive?
Tommy Kelly says
As kevin would say, “no doubt.”
Thinking Cap says
The finding never said Russia shot the plane down. They only claim that the missile was manufactured in Russia. Secondly, out of the dozens of witnesses to the incident, they are going by ONE AP reporter that was nearby?? What happened to the local people’s testimony? Do they not support their hypothesis? At least try to come up with a more objective explanation instead of trying to make it fit the “blame Russia” theory.
Local people’s testimony was in direct conflict with the “findings” of the TWA 800 shootdown. They were effectively silenced. Many highly credible witnesses were ignored. See TWA800.com.
It is shocking that a backward banana republic like Russia can blackmail the whole West
Tommy Kelly says
Careful, aaheart might hear you. She would get mighty upset by your calling her beloved Russia a backward banana republic.
What nonsense Albert. That `backward banana republic’ has contributed hugely to the world’s knowledge in the Sciences, Literature and the Arts over many centuries before the Americas were even recognised as existing – whatever your complaint about the present Russian regime, as opposed to the nation per se, direct it more sensibly.
This article has an erronerous title.
Interesting, the original, CIA/MOSSAD fairy tale from the mouth of the US Puppet-Leader of Ukraine, is now being repeated by the Netherlands. Not much originality, just clear evidence of suck-up puppetry to the Israeli MOSSAD, who seem currently to direct the US CIA and the US military.
The original pieces of the airliner cabin showed at the crash site displayed bullet holes entering one side and exiting the other side, and from both sides ! Which, required either two jet fighters or two strafing runs by one jet fighter aircraft! The damage claimed to have been done by a BUK could have been done by the crash of the airliner. Add the Netherlands to the list of nations that suck up to Tel Aviv and DC.
IF a BUK struck MH 17, evidence verfying who fired it has NOT been presented. Repeated propaganda is still propaganda.
Tommy Kelly says
Yet another kookaburra. I never knew so many existed.
That which you “never knew” is rather massive. However, that which you know exists, but which you deceitfully deny, disguise and cover up, will lead to your – – – –
Your comment drbhelthi is very interesting. I recall seeing a British TV news broadcast in the immediate aftermath of the downing of the plane; the reporter was at the crash scene when approached by a local who took him to a piece of what appeared part of the wreckage of the plane’s forward fuselage detached in distance by about 3/400 yards from the more general wreckage, the camera played on this debris only briefly but in that short time I clearly saw the section riddled in a number places with smallish symmetrical (bullet?) holes, rather than asymmetrical jagged holes one would expect to see from the shrapnel of an exploding nearby rocket – the explanation already then being given by the news report. I would have liked a further closer look but the reporter evidently felt it served no useful news purpose to dwell too long on this piece of debris. I was struck however neither did the news caster refer to this as a disparity with the reported story Your comment referring to bullet holes in the skin of the cabin fits my recollection and makes me happier at least because on hearing nothing more regarding (possible fighter plane) bullets being employed in bringing the plane down I was beginning to question my own memory of that news scene.
Excellent observation. Congrats ! I downloaded photos from two sites and looked carefully at the holes and damages. I have also read translated articles written by Ukrainians. One article included the report of one ground crew member on a Ukrainian air base. He reported an SU taking off minutes prior to the MH 17 event with two air-to-air missiles. Minutes later, the SU returned and landed, with no missiles. When the pilot walked to the ground control area he was in such distress that he walked unsteadily. There are many facts surrounding the MH 17 event that are being covered up. Also reported was that two SU fighters were involved, one of which shot the other down, two pilots bailed out and landed near a village, locals of which gathered them. Additional “tangential” information exists. For example, in Nov 2011 the Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Commission (KLWCT) convicted Bush Jr. and Tony Blair in absentia, of war crimes due to the attack on Iraq. In May of 2012 the tribunal convicted Bush Jr. and seven cabinet members and advisors of war crimes due to torture of prisoners at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo, and sent their findings to the International Court of Justice in La Hague. The shoot down of MH 17 could have been a punitive action against the Malaysian government, pulled off by the MOSSAD/CIA faculty of instructors and leaders, resident in Ukraine at the time, using Ukrainian soldiers. Valuable adults and children of Holland and France were murdered, setting Russia up as the fall guy. Such careful set-ups reflect the precision of the Israeli MOSSAD, which parallels their genocide of Palestinians, and the mass murders they are committing with their mercenary army, ISIS. Contrary to the Jewish media, Islam does not control ISIS, thus ISIS is NOT “the Islamic Nation.” The following link reveals the governing authority of ISIS. http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/07/11/hack-of-netanyahu-chief-of-staff-shows-israeli-control-of-isis/ Best regards, doc b.
Many thanks drbhelthi for this additional information I shall certainly check out your link – the most interesting observation is that ISIS is run by MOSSAD which I own I am finding hard to believe allowing that ISIS adherents to a man are convinced they represent the army of Islam and are thus prepared to undertake suicidal actions in the certainty of benefiting from the eternal rewards of martyrdom – if your claim can be proven the knowledge would destroy this evil jihadist movement in a thrice. Not that I wouldn’t believe anything of MOSSAD and the CIA but surely that knowledge they would find very hard to conceal for long: and yet and yet…one thinks of the many and audacious false flag operations these bodies have undertaken leaving only a trail of suspicion but no actual solid evidence behind: they certainly do hide their guilty secrets rather well.
I responded with additional, cogent information. It was published, but removed rather swiftly by monitors. Obviously, thehornnews is supporting the propaganda against Russia, when the CIA/MOSSAD/Ukrainian puppet leadership is guilty.
Sad to have missed your latest comment drbhelthi however I did find your previous link information very interesting – I am still unable to accept that Israel and the CIA could be involved supporting a clearly evil jihadist movement that has indiscriminately and publicly beheaded innocent Western and US citizens together with their own people, albeit that they apparently share a common -misguided in the case of the US and West- enemy in Assad; how contorted and devious a web these wretched covert people weave if true. Never mind having just been deleted – if you are satisfied you are disseminating the truth keep trying.
Uncle Vladdi says
So the missile was manufactured in Russia – SO WHAT?! Big deal!
Everything the Ukrainians have, was manufactured in Russia, too!
So how do you guys love your god-like Putin now???
Why would any airplane or any airport allow planes to fly in the area where there is a war going on, come on how stupid. Also the Russians are always drunk, they were probably playing around like drunks do and didn’t think what their actions would cause to everyone. It couldn’t cost that much more in fuel to fly out around that area, as not as valuable (the Fuel) as all those innocent peoples lives and the damage to their families. I still fell bad for everyone who lost a family member and the families who have suffered so much. DON’T FLY YOUR PLANE IN AN AREA WITH A WAR GOING ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!