For weeks now GOP presidential hopeful Donald Trump has been making accusations that Texas Sen. Ted Cruz may not be eligible to be president.
And while Trump admitted in last night’s Republican debate that the attacks are at least somewhat politically motivated, one particular part of his argument seems to have merit.
The issue is almost certainly headed to court.
Trump drew loud boos at yesterday’s debate when the issue of whether Cruz is a “natural-born citizen” was raised by moderators. According to the Constitution, being a natural-born citizen is a requirement to serve as president, and Cruz was born in Canada to an American mother and Cuban father.
Some arguments have been made that Cruz’s father — and not his mother — would have needed to be American to fulfill the founding fathers’ definition of a natural-born citizen.
However, most legal scholars have said that Cruz meets the standard to be a natural-born citizen, and Trump has been criticized for stirring up controversy. For his part, Trump has claimed the issue is not as clear-cut as it seems and will almost certainly end up settled in court, which could be a distraction during the presidential race.
And on that issue, Trump appears to be correct.
Liberal legal scholars like Harvard Professor Laurence Tribe, who is a Hillary Clinton supporter and has been called President Barack Obama’s legal mentor, has been vocally raising the issue of Cruz’s eligibility.
And should Cruz get the GOP nomination, Democrats are almost certainly going to challenge whether he can serve.
Even Sen. John McCain, a war hero and the Republican nominee for the 2008 presidential election, had his legal status to serve as president challenged. McCain was born in Panama and both his parents were American citizens — his father even became a Navy admiral.
McCain was declared eligible to serve as president. But his situation was considerably less murky than Cruz’s.
And that means, almost certainly, the question of Cruz’s eligibility is headed for the courts.
— The Horn editorial staff
Cruz was not born on American soil. Both parents were not American citizens. He also had dual citizenship(until a few months ago).
“No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President”.
Natural-born citizens are those born in the country of parents who are citizens – it is necessary that they be born of a father who is a citizen. If a person is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.
Many confuse NBC with citizen; big mistake unless one is okay for Vladimir Putin impregnating a girl from New York, her giving birth to the child in New York, and later that child becoming president. Where does one think his loyalties lie?? Seriously.
THAT is the precedent one is establishing if a court doesn’t solve this NOW!!
Wrong . . . . ready your constitution . . .. better yet take the Hillsdale College 101 Consitution class on line.
There is no definition of “natural born citizen” in the Constitution.
It is true that the Constitution states that in order to be POTUS one must be Natural Born Citizen and the definition is not mentioned. The reason is because at the time everyone knew what Natural Born Citizen meant that the child must be born in the US and both parents must be US citizens at the time of the child’s birth. This definition is in Vattel’s Law of Nations (1758) and the Founding Fathers each had a copy of this learned book. Some years later the issue of Natural born Citizen was also decided in Minor vs Happerstat. court decision.
Suzanne–bravo; unfortunately, we are surrounded by liberal college-educated idiots.
Both of my children were born in Germany while I was on active military duty. One in Bremerhaven and one on a second tour in Vilseck. Their FIRST birth certificate was a German birth certificate that we had to take to the American Embassy and get an American birth certificate. MANY military families that could afford it sent the wives to America to have their babies and then they would return to Germany for this very reason – No one can be President unless he or she was born on American soil. They were German citizens first until they were 21 years old and they could then decide which Army (if they desired) they wanted to serve in and/or what citizenship they wanted to be……….Many dollars were and are spent by the military serving abroad to insure this citizenship for their children – with NO reimbursement………Along come politicians and they can do whatever they want to………
Well said but the people, especially the libturds will not listen. No one goes by the laws anymore and more than 1/2 the population does NOT know the CONSTITUTION OR AMENDMENTS….
That’s pretty much how I understand it…in Obama’s case he has not proved he is a natural born citizen because he doesn’t want to admit he is the son of a communist Frank Marshal Davis…compare theif pics & you can see that he is…he very likely was born in Kenya…there is also the problem that since he was adopted by Soetoro (sp?) in Indonesia that he never changed that situation legally…just sayin’…story goes that Hawaii has a legal birth certificate of him being born in Hawaii but no one wants to produce it because I don’t think it exists…would be the “simple” way of proving it …right?
Suzanne, I have been posting this everywhere with the links and exact writing. It has zero to do with the mother of Cruz and everything to do with the Father of Cruz. Neither Rubio or Jindal are eligible. Neither of their parents were citizens at the time of their birth.
And Obama is President? Why? So everything He has done to Harm the US and everything He has done should be erased off the books for the past 8 years. AND He and his wife should have to pay back to the American taxpayers every vacation they took, every party that was not for a Head of State and for the extra plane to fly their dogs.
Im tired of people in the know saying that the matter hasnt ever been ruled on by the Sup Ct.
The supreme ct has ruled on the meaning of Natural born Citizen(N.B.C.). In 1875 the US Sup Ct in Minor v Happersett looked back at the founders meaning of the term and ruled that to be Natural born one had to have citizen parents(note the s). This is standing precedent having never been overturned. Also note, no Congressional Act may overrule the Constitution, only an amendment.
The founders used the political philosopher Vattels 1758 ‘Law Of Nations’ to write the Constitution, and at the founding the meaning of N.B.C. was well understood and there was no need to define it. In ‘law of nations’ it says “The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born ‘IN’ the country, of ‘parentS’ who are citizens” Book 1 Chapter 19, section 212.
The Constitution states “Article 2 Section 1 of the Constitution reads: No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President…” This clause itself proves that a N.B.C. and a ‘citizen’ are 2 different things as it refers to both. There would be no need of the adoption clause if they were the same. The adoption clause allowed that everyone who became a citizen when the Constitution formed this country was eligible to be president since none of them were N.B.C.’s and there would be no one to be president. It would not be until children were born to citizens parents and grew to 35 years old before there would be natural born citizens to be president. Once all that 1st generation was dead then only N.B.C.’s were left eligible.
Clearly Cruz, rubio, jindal, Nikki Haley and OBAMA are not eligible, by law(constitutional and supreme ct decision).
Note Vattel also stated in that quote one had to be born ‘IN’ the country! The act by the early congress to preclude being born in the country cannot overule the Constitution and they should have amended it if they wanted to change its meaning.
For a historical note:President Chester Arthur faced a challenge by those who believed his father was not a citizen when Chester was born. Before the authorities could seize them Arthur took all his family documents and burned them in his back yard effectively covering up the fact of his ineligibility to hold office. Would he have done this if he didnt believe this would have made him ineligible? It was only recently in 2009 that a researcher found documentation which confirmed that Arthur’s critics were right about his ineligibility because his father was not a citizen at the time of Chester’s birth.
Currently Santorum(Italian father), Jindal(Indian parents), Rubio(Cuban parents), Cruz(Cuban father), are NOT Natural born citizens, nor is Obama(British father).
So where does that leave our illegal president!!!
It is quite true that the words “natural born” are not defined within the 4-corners of the Constitution(or Amendments), but the First Congress, Second session, recognized this omission and MADE LAW(that’s the job of the LEGISLATIVE Branch), which states the following requirements for natural-born status: must be born of TWO(count ’em, two) American Citizens…AND, it doesn’t matter WHERE they were born! This is why Congress could lawfully rule that snake Congresscretin from Arizona, the “Bomb-bomb-bomb, bomb-bomb Iran” guy, McCain, was lawfully eligible. McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone to TWO(count ’em, two) American Citizens.
But this truth you’ll never see in CCMSM, otherwise BHO would be evicted from the White House like someone who lied on their lease application. i’d LOVE to see his crap stacked on the curb, just like any other lease-breaker. Who needs impeachment? He’s holding the office Unconstitutionally, which means that he’s been an oathbreaking criminal ever since he swore the Presidential oath of office.
If you don’t believe me(and i hope you don’t) just google “natural born” “First Congress” “Second Session” and read for yourself. There has NEVER BEEN any law made to contradict or revise or eradicate or annul this LAW, ergo, not only is Cruz not eligible, D’obama should be tossed out on his ear, and every single damn thing he did while in office invalidated on the grounds that he was never qualified to hold the office ab initio.
With goodwill to all the People
C
I agree that both Obama and Cruz are not qualified to be president of the United States and
Obama should be thrown out on that but impeachment would not be necessary. He should
be arrested and removed immediately. He is not a natural born citizen of two US citizen
parents and neither is Cruz. That disqualifies them both. Lets do the court thing ASAP and
get that scum bag soldier of Satan our of the White House ASAP.
AGREED!
You are SO right on!
No one will listen,
‘C’, YOU ARE RIGHT, THE CONSTITUTION SAYS “CITIZENS”, MEANING TWO.(PLURAL)
From your written page to GOD’S ears. I pray this wickedness on office is impeached, all his laws and promises deemed null and void, and he, himself imprisoned. I also hope all of his people, that knew, and helped him get elected,from the smallest voice, up to all the major players, like democratic party leaders, Oprah Winfrey, and possibly even some of the relatives in the Bush family, and Clinton family are all prosecuted as well,if proof is found that they helped O’Bama become elected, for being enemies of this country by way of helping to perpetrate this fraud upon all American citizens. Put an end to politics, and have an end to political parties, and have each candidate run independantly, without party affiliation, raise their own money based on the people that want them elected according to their ideals and promises, and have open debates, where all candidates can participate.
And . . . .What about Rubio and Jindal? Were their parents citizens at the time of their births? And Nikki Haley?
True, and that’s why the First Session of Congress pass that law in 1790 to identify it; where a child who’s parents (not just the mother) was a natural born citizen.
If Cruz is a natural born citizen, so is Hussein Obama. So if Obama is a natural born citizen because his mother was a citizen of the USA, why did the Senate question John McCain knowing his mother and father were citizens of the USA.
Because they are Republicans !! It only matters if your a Repub, Not a Democrap thats the way its always been on most issues, Always !
Every Vietnam born child who has an America parent is now eligible to run for the office of President of the United States. Wow!
YOGIMAN, DON’T YOU REALIZE THAT THERE IS A DOUBLE STANDARD IN PLAY HERE?
Of course there is a double standard and I’m glad it has been brought up. Anyone who thinks they are American’s and they actually are not are the true haters and racists……..that needed to be said……….I hope it will be read and I pray that God will make us great again…..and he will.
McCain’s parents were both American citizens and he was born in the Canal Zone which at that time was US territory to boot.
When I was in school, the teacher stated that the person had to be born in the 48 states to become President. That meant that anyone not born in the 48 states could not become President even though they were US citizens. So, to me that meant McCain & Milt R could not be President. Cruz is not a natural born citizen. All of the above are US Citizens but could not become Presidents.
Just look at the four court cases already on the books that define Natural Born Citizen. In Hapersett vrs. Minor it staes to be a N.B.C. you need to be BORN on American soil to TWO citizen parents. PLURAL. This eliminates “o”bama, Cruz, Rubio and Jindal. “o”bama, and Cruz have ONE parent. Rubio, and Jindal have ZERO. All four are INELIGIBLE acording to FOUR court cases that are the LAW. Google them and you educate yourself. We don’t teach civics anymore so most American’s are ignorant of Natural Born Citizen. Most of our STUPID politicians don’t have a clue. Semper Fi
THE IMMIGRATION DEPARTMENTS DEFINITION IS, A NATURAL BORN CITYSEN IS BORN IN THE USA TO PARENTS THAT ARE CYTIZENS….A CITYZEN BORN OUTSIDE THE USA IS CLASSIFID A CITYZEN BORN ABROAD…
No your WRONG…I hold a JD and had to study Constitutional Law In-depth in Law School, and sorry to inform you, the Supreme Court passed down the ruling in the late 1800’s that both Parents have to be Natural Born Citizens for their Child to become President of the USA. I like Cruz, but sorry, he does not meet the requirements to be President. BO does not meet the requirements to be President either, but the Commie/Muslim/DemoRat/NWO/Rino’s went behind the American Peoples back, lied, cheated and stole both 2008 and 2012 Elections for BO to push their NWO agenda down “We the People” throat…PERIOD..!!!
Correct. The questions over Obama’s birth certificate were a smokescreen to hide the real issue. The fathers of Obama, Rubio, Jindal and Cruz were all foreign nationals. None of them are eligible to be POTUS and Obama is a usurper squatting in the Oval Office. The definition of ‘natural born citizen’ is a person born on US soil and born of US citizen parents. That definition was given in a SCOTUS decision (Minor v. Happersett) and was upheld by five other SCOTUS panels – no other definition has ever been given by a SCOTUS panel.
The founding fathers changed the presidential eligibility requirements (Article II, Section 1) from ‘born citizen’ to ‘natural born citizen’ to tighten it up against foreign influence. What is a ‘born citizen’? A person born on the soil. What could be more restrictive? Citizen parents.
This is crazy stuff…thanks for setting the record straight. I am a Canadian citizen, and both of my children were born in the USA (their father is a US Citizen). I was told that they had dual citizenship until age 18, at that point they had to decide to become a Canadian citizen, or an American citizen. They chose American citizen.
You are 100% correct. No only is Cruz ineligible but so is the usurper in chief presently occupying the WH. More importantly the usurper has been involved in a conspiracy to cover-up his ineligibility with forged documents. The entire Democratic party is complicit especially Reid and Pelosi. Everyone involved should be locked up for treason.
We Republicans must not legitimize ignoring the NBC constitutional requirement by doing it for a GOP candidate.
You are 110 % correct
The “natural born citizen” designation was ALWAYS understood to mean “born on U.S. soil” in the past. That is how Obama could squeak by even though many felt that the phrase also meant having a father who was a U.S. citizen and others thought that both parents had to be U.S. citizens at the time of the candidate’s birth. But most all felt that the candidate needed to be born on U.S. soil regardless of the parent’s citizenship.
The closest situation to Ted Cruz’ situation was that of Chester A. Arthur who took over the Presidency when James A. Garfield was assassinated. One of Arthur’s political opponents accused Arthur of having been born in Canada (Ontario) and thus ineligible under the “natural-born” clause. Arthur was actually born in Vermont BUT his father was still a British citizen (from Ireland) when he was born so a few people never accepted that Arthur was eligible. At that time, most people felt that being born on U.S. soil was the more important distinction. Even though ALL of the early Presidents were born in one of the original thirteen colonies–Washington and Jefferson were born in Virginia, John Adams in Massachusetts, etc. a few of them likely had parents born in England. They would not have been likely to have disqualified themselves for having a parent born in “the old country”. The Framers probably were a bit frightened of the thought that someone who was born in England might have British sympathy and try to move the country back under British rule. Thus the likely reason for the “natural-born” clause. Obama’s British-citizen father was apparently not a problem. The real clincher of his ineligibility would have been if he really was born in Kenya as “birthers” accused.
Another complicating factor in Cruz’ situation is that his mother’s name appears on a voter registration list in Calgary, where he was born. This would indicate that she had taken out Canadian citizenship and, in those days, that was thought to be an “expatriating act” and that means she would have given up her U.S. citizenship before Ted was born. If true, that would mean that Ted Cruz was born to two Canadian citizens (his father took out Canadian citizenship) in Canada. Three strikes and you’re out. Another situation gives further pause for thought. Supposedly, Ted’s father was a soldier in Castro’s army during the Communist revolution in Cuba.
What most Republicans are concerned about is that Cruz would get the nomination and then be challenged by the Democrats in Congress on his eligibility. My understanding is that only Congress has legal standing to make a challenge on that basis. That is why it was important for McCain to get a resolution from Congress on his situation. They basically said that they would not bring an eligibility challenge for his having been born in the Panama Canal Zone. His people argued that 1) the Canal Zone was, at that time, considered to be U.S. territory and he was born on a U.S. military base there. And 2) both of his parents were U.S. citizens–his father was on active duty in the U.S. military. McCain’s situation was much stronger under the Constitution than is Cruz’. It is almost a sure bet that, should Cruz win the nomination, that embattled Democrats would bring an eligibility challenge.
You are correct. What did our free mason founders base their logic in part on? The Bible and it’s rules and lines of inheritance. They basically did not give one hoot about the mother as the ultimate status because the mother did not pass on inheritance.
—> She could not vote !
That is how much the founding fathers thought of the mother’s power.
They were mostly concerned with the FATHER and loyalty of the males that stood in line to inherit, to the FATHERLAND. The males were involved with politics and higher education and trades, the women were not.
I know that might be tough to comprehend for liberal socialists that follow Lenin and his Marxist motherland poop.
Our government is so corrupt that WE the people no longer are its voice. We have allowed them to rule us instead of us ruling them..We are sheeple
Please tell me why the Supreme Court has not been petitioned to rule on this issue. This should have been done 8 years ago when O was a candidate. The court is in dereliction of their duty. We can’t allow this to go on any longer, there is too much at stake.
I also believe that this whole scheme was created to weaken Article II, Section I of the Constitution to benefit the efforts of the New World Order.
That’s what I learned in US History class.
My Social Studies teacher back in high school used to say “you know who the mother is and guess at the father. That is why if the mother was Jewish, so was the child. ” And I think that is the loop hold O used to be eligible for a natural born citizen. However Jewish is a religion, not a nationality.
Also, we had better make it clear here and now, because we have lots of kids born on American soil to one parent not an American citizen. And what about all those that rush to our boarder to have their kid born here…are those …kids going to be eligible to be President or Vice President?
In fact, while we looking for answer to this…how is it that a person who is not a natural born citizen able to hold an office in any law making branch of our government? Get enough of them in and they can change our Constitution to read what the majority wants?
Cruz is a nice guy, but in my eyes, he isn’t a natural born citizen and should not hold the office of not only President, Vice President but also Speaker of the House.
Both parents have to be US citizens at the time the child is born for the child to be natural born. The parental citizenship can be from being natural born or from naturalization.
We better get this birther thing done.
I’m hearing a lot of people now decided they’re NOT going to vote… period!
Both parents have to be US citizens at the time the child is born for the child to be natural born. The parental citizenship can be from being natural born or from naturalization.
Cruz is wrong wrong wrong and Trump knows it.
This is too good to be true, just watching Trump in action.
We need this man, and he knows it. What more do we need to know?
We don’t need a man (or woman) who does not know where their money is.
Do we?!
You are correct in all that you say except: Say –you’re–not your, when you mean –you are.
Basic English.
Yes Trump is right about everything wrong with Cruz!
FORGET ABOUT THE ENGLISH WE KNOW WHAT IS BEING SAID!
why wasn’t this brought up in 2008? See above , too late now !!
It was brought up
That’s because Nancy Pelosi pushed through
Trump brought it up then. People were just to stupid to listen. I believe the same wat Trump does, only he doesn’t talk about it now, to avoid being called crazy by crazies. If you look at his facial expressions and tone in his voice, he still believes this way. So do I. Give me until the end of the day. I’ll give you a Certificate of Birth too. With months and months, I’ll give you one with 60’s ink, that’ll pass any available test you can put it through.
Obama, or whatever he calls himself, whenever he feels the need is an admitted flag burner partier along with his wife Michelle. 1. He connected American Tax dollars to go to school in the U.S., declaring he was a foreign exchange student from Kenya. 2. He lied about being born in Hawaii. 3. He lied about his schooling. 4. He lied about his Social Security number. 5 He lied about being an American Citizen. He lied about America no longer being a Christian Nation. 6. He has changed his name so many times that it makes him even lying about his true name.
I have a name for him! He is no good lying scumbag un-American purgering MF Muslim bastard triator Son-of-a-Bitch and that’s complimentary to what I really think of him.
While he was burning our American Flag, I was in the Marine Corps fighting for it.
Palosy and the rest of them should all be jailed until it’s time for their execution.
USPatriotOne and prsmith are absolutely correct on the Natural Born issue! Why did not anyone in the Debate say or question Obama’s citizenship eligibility at all???? Why? Why? Why??? This worm in the highest office of our nation was well protected by WHO??????? Why was his Citizenship not continued to be an issue??? His LIES in his applications to school and other benefits??? His use of several Social Security Numbers???? Why if he was born in Hawaii was not given a Hawaii SSN??????? For McCain who had all American parents, if he was born outside of an American Base in Panama and not inside the Base, then he is not Natural Born, But if he was born in an American Base in Panama or any American Warship, he is still a Natural Born American!
I agree with Ama on her statement as why there was never a really sincere move made to verify Obama’s identify. Not by the Democrats, Pelosi or the Democratic Party………why was their word just taken and no one ask any questions? This is something I too, did a lot of research on Obama and found out most anything I wanted to know………why couldn’t the Democrats have done the same thing? I have known for years and years from my research that Obama was born in Kenya, admitted by his Grandmother and the Ambassador from Kenya to the United States. What I can’t understand how the Democrats could do all this concerning Obama and no one questioned anything they did? Where was the American people, all of them asleep? Now I understand why the Democrats are so corrupt and crooked and they certainly pulled a fast one on the American people……….which shows me they have NO CONCERN for this country or it’s people……….their main concern was for setting up this country for NWO. How in the world do grown men have so little integrity and honesty to pull something like this on an entire country and it’s people?. People are accusing Obama of being a traitor (and he is) toward this country………what do you American people who vote for the Democrats think they are………absolutely a traitor also? There is nothing smart what the Democrats did to this country then to put Obama (knowing he was not eligible to be president) in office and the crooked and corrupt way they did it. Also knowing what Obama would do to this country and all the lives of American citizens that were put in jeopardy because of their desire to further their agenda. Guess their thinking was if they did this they would be elevated to some elite position in our new government. Wonder what will happen to the Democrats when this is all over and they didn’t get their wish for this country to be one of the NWO?
Yes, My immediate reaction to this news is that OBAMA is not and has NEVER been cleared for the presidency
which he has about destroyed. WHY…because he, the Democrats and others covered all information. AS most know, nothing about Obama’s past history, his school records, his ?social security number has EVER been brought forth.
NOBODY remembers him in college. His and Michelle’s attorney licenses were revoked (to avoid a scandal before
election…..ALL INFORMATION IS IN A VAULT SOMEWHERE.
I think if Ted Cruz is denied the chance of becoming president because of this rule/law, the the same
should be for Obama. He should be thrown out of the White House and should be in prison. EVERYTHING he has done as president is ILLEGAL…
BIG 10-4 ON ALL THAT!
You are right both not one that is why obama is not legal, and Cruz as well, sorry I will not vote for Cruz, Rubio, don’t like and don’t trust, so Trump is the only one I will vote for we need to get away from lawyers, and politicians we need someone who believes in America,her Laws, and the Constitution and he will ask for information not my way only like the idiot in office, and to get really nasty obamas mother was not married.
I agree with most of your statement but…. Look at Trump, really his past, He did NOT support ANY of the things he’s now supporting, and did NOT believe in most of the things he’s saying he believes in now, he’s been a supporter of Many Many democraps for more years than I hate to admit, and most of their liberal policys, but Now that he’s running for Prez, thats all changed?? He’s saying what most all of us want to hear and want done and he knows it, he’s a smart smart cookie and he’ll do what ever he needs to do to get what HE wants, and if you say or do something to him he brings down his Whole empire to stomp you out! what difference is that then what we have right now in the White house? come on think about it, a President cant do everything on his own and Trump wont be any diffferent than any other person that holds the office, he’ll have to work with and cut deals with the other branch’s of gov. to get parts and peices of what he wants done, would I vote for him if he’s the nom. well Yeah<< anythings better that Hillary !!! but just remember he's NOT at all what he's claiming to be either his PAST shows that over and over!
BIG 10-4 ON ALL THAT TOO!
I know Hussein is not eligible because his father was a Kenyan citizen and his mother was under 18 when she gave birth to Barry soetoro or whatever his name really is in Kenya. Cruz is not eligible for the reason that his father was not a U.S. Citizen when he was born in Canada, but the Donald is not a good choice because of his support of homosexual marriage and his opposition to fada, the freedom of religion defense act that keeps businesses from being punished for not supporting homosexual and other deviant marriage. That leaves Ben Carson, Carly fiorina, mike huckabee, Rick Santorum in the running
Trump’s mother was born in Scotland. He would have to give his plan to become POTUS as well.
Both parents? Why was this not resolved with Barack Obama? His dad was not a U.S. citizen. The democrats would be smart to bypass this issue. Lawsuits could be brought to undo everything the Democrats and Obama has signed.
agreed 100%
Have to agree with you.
that is why the democraps are criminals and should be in jail and disbanded!
Rodney,im a republican my wife is a dem.we both are americans,and love america,i think your wrong to call someone a crimnal just becouce there dem.SEMPER FI TO ALL AMERICANS.
You are 100% correct. Thank you, thank you and thank you for getting this right. If Cruz, in a 59 States, Corpseman type Obama moment, seriously believes that John McCain, who was born to 2 American parents and he was born in a US Military hospital=U.S. soil in Panama. It was BO who challenged JMc on that one before the Senate. The best defense is a good offense. BO is ineligible to be president and Stanley A. Dunham is not even his real (genetically proven) mother and his father was a Kenyan MauMau. The Brits have all this info and their and Israel’s intel far surpasses ours. But today, even being a natural born American is insufficient to be proof positive that the candidate is loyal to this country as we have so many traitors within it has become an almost but still valuable criterion.
Anchor babies are natural born citizens NOT! The Donald was born in America to an American born Father and a naturalized American Scottish born mother – that’s good enough to satisfy the criteria. Where do you think that most of the colonial Americans came from? England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland. Ant that’s when the Consitiution was written as the Brits did not want any foreigners coming into their colony. Let the Demoncraps sue – I only hope Sheriff Joe gets the evidence that is so obvious about BO. There are still more true Americans, born here or naturalized, to overcome the evil infiltration of this American multicultural Experiment.
ALL Presidents have been born on U.S. soil even though a few of the early ones probably had a parent or two from the “old country”. Remember when Arnold Schwarsenneggar (sp?) lamented that he would have loved to have run for the Presidency but knew that he could not because he was born in Austria? THE most important disctinction–that nearly everyone agrees on is that a candidate for President MUST be born on U.S. soil! That is why McCain sought the assurance of Congress that he would not face an eligibility challenge if he were to gain the nomination or Presidency. And McCain was on much stronger Constitutional grounds than Cruz. McCain was born on what was then, U.S. territory to two U.S. citizen parents while his father was on active duty in the U.S. military. The Cruz people like to point to Barry Goldwater as well–or George Romney. In Goldwater’s case, he was born in the Arizona Territory before it became a State–so the understanding of “U.S. soil” was broadened to U.S. territories as well. Many people thought George Romney’s case was much shakier (he was born in Mexico to two U.S. citizen parents) but it became moot when he dropped out of the nomination contest.
If that is true why is obama still in white house
Good question. I’ve been asking myself this question for almost 8 years now, without an answer.
I have always agreed that Obama is an illegal President. I did a lot of research on it & found enough proof that Obama was really born in Kenya. I contacted the Media, the New York Times & the Washington Post, as well as several politicians. Only one answered me. A Democrat in the House of Representatives during that time, when both the House & the Senate were controlled by the Democrats. His answer was: ( Early on we voted on the issue, & elected not to pursue it.) That is how Obama has been in the Presidents Office for Going on eight years now. And what have the Republicans done about it after taking control of the Senate & the House? NOT A DARN THING !! Politicians are Corrupt liars, PERIOD !!
By the way I forgot to include this in my last reply. I do not believe Cruz, & Rubio can legally be president either. Even though Cruz would be me second choice after Trump.
Cruz is a US citizen ! The final and definitive requirement is the amendment of the 14th Amendment via the Immigration & Nationality Act of 1952. Congress mandated that any person born between 12/24/52 and 11/14/86, is a US citizen if only 1 of the persons parents was a US citizen when the person was born. Nowhere does this say only the father must be the one. It does not matter which one as they have American Blood flowing thru their veins immediately at their birth.Therefore they are automatically naturalized at their birth ! And why is no one ranting about Marco Rubio ? He is an Anchor Baby for heaven’s sake ! Both of his parents were illegal Cuban’s at his birth and he has no American Blood flowing thru his veins ! And don’t give that he was born on American soil bit. He is an Anchor Baby !
If Cruz was born in the US in regards to the Immigration Law of 1852 with only one parent as a Citizen he would gualify as Natural Born, but he was born out of the Country with only one parent a US Citizen! Also, someone from Canada said his Mother had a dual Citizenship. I don’t know if that is true, but would bring up more questions.
What we don’t need as a Country, is for a long drug out lawcsuit that would keep Obama in office!! I don’t understand with all the questions about him and all he has done and keeps doing, why he is still in office!
1) When Rubio was born, there was not the controversy over “anchor babies”. 2) His parents were NOT illegals when he was born–they became U.S. citizens when he was four-years-old. 3) He was born on U.S. soil (Miami) at a time when all babies born in the U.S. were considered citizens from birth–no matter what citizenship the parents held.
You have a point there!
RATMANDO: He is a citizen but not a Natural born citizen. I hope that you will understand the difference one day.
USPatriotOne, that’s absurd! If both parents have to be natural born citizens for their child to be a natural born citizen, then no one is a natural born citizen except people who are direct descendants of only people who were natural born citizens of the United States in 1776 when it started. Everyone else has at least one ancestor who was not a natural born citizen and, therefore, whose progeny could not be natural born citizens. Of course, that also eliminates Donald J. Trump because his mother was born in Scotland.
We have only two kinds of citizens in the United States: naturalized and natural born. Foreigners have to go through a process, with paperwork and an oath, to be naturalized. If you’re a citizen and you didn’t have to go through the process, fill out the paperwork, get it approved, and take the oath, you’re a natural born citizen.
In addition to natural born citizen, Article 2 Section 1 of the Constitution says the President must be at least 35 years old and must have been a resident of the U.S. for at least 14 years. Personally, I’d rather require that the person was raised in the U.S. so he could have American values, not some other country’s values which contradict our Constitution, but that’s not what the law says.
The real issue is: How can a good person avoid being corrupted once elected, especially since the adversary is working extra hard to corrupt every person in our government, with a priority on the top people?
The answer is prayer. (Have you seen “War Room”?) Lots of it! And Ted knows it. And you can help!
Ted Cruz’ Sunday school teacher has started A Time for Prayer on Tuesday mornings to pray that God blesses our country exceeding abundantly above all we can ask or think. They do mention Ted and his family, but mostly they pray for our country. They really want the candidate God chooses to be elected. You can sign up for the conference call at https://www.tedcruz.org/pray/
You see, we can try to fix everything ourselves but we really don’t know the things we’d need to know to fix anything. But we know the One who does! So we work with God and let Him do the heavy lifting. After all, He is the only one who can change hearts. He is the only one who can give each of us Ephesians 3:20 days and years!
God bless you!
Both my parents were born in the US as was I. That makes me a Natural Born Citizen.
Huigiano,
You must be the most liberal person in the U.S.
Both parents must be Citizens at the time of birth. The parents can be either natural born or naturalized.
Anything else opens up the door to dual loyalty and foreign influences.
The proof of this possibility is Barack Obama.
When you are praying for Sen. Cruz to be the one God has chosen to be President, stand on 1 Sam.16:12b.
Thank you for shedding light on the subject. I thought that if his mother is a US citizen then he is qualified. Seems there needs to be more information on this subject.
RIGHT WHATS GOOD FOR THE GOOSE IS GOOD FOR THE GANDER
So Trump’s Scotch mom disqualifies him too RIGHT???
No, he was born on US soil and one parent was a Citizen and the other through Naturalization.
Trump is natural born citizen. He was born on American soil, His father was natural born citizen and his mother was American citizen. The Parents have to be American citizens and the child has to be born on American soil for the child to be Natural born Citizen. So Trump is Natural born citizen. Rubio and Cruz are not. Rubio because he was anchor baby and Cruz because born in Canadian to Cuban Canadian citizen. Anchor baby Rubio did not argue this against Cruz because he is also not eligible if his parents was not American citizens even if he was born in America.
Be that as it may – the precedent has been set by Obama of having only ONE parent as a natural citizen.
slstanley-
Show me where the Constitution allows “precedent” to trump it. If it DID, then “precedent” would be the Supreme Law of the Land, not the Constitution(see Art. 6).
IF U R CORRECT THEN RUBIO MUST ALSO BE ELIMINATED FROM THE PACK. HIS PARENTS R BOTH CUBAN BORN.
The parents place of birth is not relevant. They were not citizens at the time Marco was born.
That’s exactly right…with NEITHER parent a U.S. Citizen at the time of his birth!!!!!
You’re right, USPatriotOne, but the SCOTUS ruling was in the early 1800’s, and it also cited the “Law of Nations,” written by Emerich de Vattel, in 1758 – so it’s more likely than not that the Congressional office-holders of the First Congress were quite aware of – and perhaps referenced – the “Law of Nations” when they WROTE THE BLEEDIN’ LAW that has never(afaik) been modified, invalidated, overruled, or otherwise superseded by any law to the contrary. (brief refresher: “natural born” REQUIRES that BOTH parents be US Citizens at the time of the child’s birth.
And before anyone jumps at a straw, i readily acknowledge that D’ohbama is a “c”itizen – 14th Amendment may apply(even though it was NEVER lawfully ratified), he just does NOT meet the “natural born” criterion which would allow him to lawfully(that is, Constitutionally) hold the office…so evict his oathbreaking ass.
Anyone who disagrees, i hereby challenge to search ALL US Law to find where the definition of “Natural Born” Citizen has been changed. If you cannot, you must concede that this LAW is still valid, ergo no Cruz, ergo no D’ohbama.
I think you may have gotten your words mixed up. Both parents need to be citizens but a person
who has migrated here and applied and gotten citizenship is also a citizen of the US and that person
could have a child born in the US who is eligible to be president of the US. The child must be
natural born citizen but the parent could be a naturalized citizen and that would meet the criteria.
Prove me wrong on that by any precedent law. Quote the law and when it was passed, please.
Thanks!
I beg to differ; both parents have to be citizens, not natural born citizens themselves. And when they come up with the mother issue, isn’t that discrimination against the father? The fathers should be madder than hell over that issue.
Agreed!
IMPEACH NOW
I so enjoy American Patriots. I volunteered my life in the United States Military so that others may live in peace and within a reasonable amount of safety though BO works day and night to take your way of life and safety away….as well as your children’s future….and their children’s future and their children’s future. He has to be stopped and everything he has instigated and tried to ram down the American peoples throat eradicated from existence as if it never happened…..and every single person who reads this knows this to be succinctly true without a shadow of a doubt.
You are so, so right.
Tonyg, the Hillsdale 101 Constitutional course is wanting — to say the least —
WRONG. You are either lying or ignorant of the documents that clearly indicate cruz is INELIGIBLE – period.
No, you are wrong. I studied constitutional law at the Univ of Texas, but my own experience is living proof. While stationed in Germany in the early 80’s, my wife gave birth to two sons. Both of us were born in the U.S., but our sons could obtain U.S. citizenship in only one way–we had to provide a lot of documentation and appear in front of a Federal Judge to make them naturalized U.S. citizens. R. E. Fields (COL, USA)
Well, Robert, i believe someone deceived you and made you jump through many unnecessary hoops; as stated before, simply reference the First Congress, Second Session, on the issue of “natural born,” and you’ll discover – as Congress itself rather recently ruled in the case of McCain – that “natural born” status is conveyed AT BIRTH to every child born of 2 American Citizens, no matter where in the world they may be at the time. But if it’s true that Rubio has ZERO US Citizen parents, then yep, he’s disqualified. He’d be disqualified if only ONE of his parents was a US Citizen at his time of birth.
Cruz is a citizen. Already had this debate with Obama. Obama is US citizen that is why he is president. Get over yourselves. I support Ben Carson.
No one is saying that Cruz is not a U.S. citizen–he got that from being born of a U.S. citizen mother (unless she gave up her U.S. citizenship) BUT he would have had to apply for that U.S. citizenship and does anyone know that he actually did that? I have two American-Canadian friends whose children were born in Canada. They had to apply for U.S. citizenship for their children, which they did. If U.S. citizenship is automatic, why did they have to apply? British citizenship is a bit different. If you are born to a British citizen, no matter where you are born, you are considered to be a British citizen. Obama actually has British citizenship by his father (his father was born in Kenya before Kenya separated from Britain)–that is, if his parents were married at the time–and there’s some debate about that. In any case, if was agreed that if he really was born in Hawaii (and not in Kenya, as some have accused) that he is “natural-born” under the stipulation in the Constitution.
“We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the Courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who would pervert the Constitution.
—Abraham Lincoln
While both parties have done and said everything possible to discredit Donald Trump, maybe they should have been busy seeing which candidates are actually eligible to run for POTUS.
Prove Obama is a citizen, he won’t.
It is not in the Constitution. Learn the History of the Constitution and the Law of Nations.
You are right, but the problem is that it is not cast in stone in US law, so that is why the Democrats will challenge it. The definition of “natural born” is not set in US law. So it can be challenged. Cruz would be wise to go to court himself and get a declaration that yes he is eligible to run for President. That way he gets it out of the way, and the Republicans do not get stuck with no candidate, and Obama stays President til it is settled. . Cruz is being stubborn .
Then why wasn’t Obama’s citizenship challenged. He was born of an America mother and a foreign father supposedly in Hawaii. Supposedly. Yet he has served two terms without a court battle.
Historically, all candidates for the office of President and Vice-President were the offspring of two citizen parents. Barack Obama slipped through by fraud, deceit and a criminal conspiracy orchestrated by left wing communist supporters. Is there any doubt by B.O.’s performance that he holds the welfare of foreign regimes over those of “WE THE PEOPLE”
Obama was challenged in court…by a fellow in NJ..the case got dismissed by the judge saying if all the American people believe he is legal to be President…what more is needed?? So then Donald trump sued him and they produced a bogus birth certificate….it was let go at that ….but his own sister is on video saying he was born in Kenya…yes…so if you let Cruz in…you will be stuck with him while he does all he can to help out Canada….anyone that is not an American born citizen…always holds special allegiance to another country…and he ONLY has a Canadian birth certificate…lived there the first 4 years of his life….and the Mother was registered to vote in Canada…which would also mean she would have had to give up her American citizenship before the family moved here….lots of stuff smells like a rat??
Mr. Donald Trump Challenged OB and offered 5 million dollars to prove it and Mr. Trump would give the money to any legal organization of his OB choice, then the hard to read birth certificate showed up, yeah right.
Exactly. In fact, if cruz ever slithers into the Oval Office, he will do worse than express his dual allegiance to Canada. He will continue to implement the orders of the same people who “selected” obama – the Trilateral and the Council on Foreign Relations. Cruz & his wife are associated with the CFR. He’s one of their many puppets on congress, in both parties. NO member of congress should be elected to the Presidency of the United States.
You are right ! And Cruz’s father was Cuban.That is why Cruz was so supportive of immigration.He voted for issuing many more working visas and we ,Americans, can’t find jobs .
So I can see how much influence his Cuban father still have on him.Yes ,he think about America , but he also wants to do some good stuff for Cuban people too.President should help in first place to American people.
Canadians helped us with the 911 problem they are not the problem nor our enemy. You are being falcious.
O has a prodigal birth certificate. It was lost, then found? How many other BCs has the state of HI lost? Also near the time of O’s birth HI was in the throes of becoming a state. Meaning of course many people who had lived in HI for generations were not citizens but were native born Hawaiians? A different category of people all together, but likely quite common in 1776. So I suspect native born mean those born on American soil to prevent. That is perhaps how anchor babies came into being? Citizens if born in our country? The first presidents may have all been anchor babies? Personally I don’t have a problem with native born being fixed to our country, but anchor babies and anyone perhaps should have to be truthful and admit their background and publish it. It is incredible to me that a person like O can seal their records from public scrutiny and run for public office? Many of us have some skeletons in our past that would be embarrassing? So Obama has some as well. But we do not have to make our past public to be a citizen. Also important is elected officials need to be raised in America by American parents in American schools. Not in madrass schools, or communist, socialists schools. We don’t have those types of govts, most don’t want that type lifestyle no matter how “peaceful” they claim to be. so why would we want someone to be president or in public office or as a judge that was essentially a “traitor” to our form of govt? For heaven’s sake we have fought two world wars. lost many men and women and are now engaged in what amounts to WWII! fighting global jihad to suddenly elect an unknown person based on a technicality? Surely sealed records do not TRUMP the Constitution in a court of law???? This whole issue of O’s place of birth, Cruz’s eligibility. Rubio’s status as an anchor baby needs to be legally cleared up but not in a campaign/election. That is what the three branches of govt are for, not elections. It is worth noting that IMO the “pardoning” of Nixon was illegal. The president does have the power to pardon, except in cases of impeachment. It says so in the Constitution. So if HRC was elected, or O resigned and fraud by O was proven, then no one could pardon him. We are all humans, except Jesus had two natures so presidents and elected officials and judges, and police and all of us are capable of breaking the law, and even sinning! Yes, indeed. These issues need to be cleared up and I will boycott Cruz and Rubio, not because they are crooks but IMO they should not be president. Of course not through any fault of their own but they are not sports or musical superstars either. And neither am I. But I am eligible to be president.
I think you better check out Chester A.Auther.
Obama was born in 1961. Hawaii became a state in 1959.
Never really proven that he was born in Hawaii. In fact no one has seen a true birth certificate. The one person who knows the truth was killed in a air accident.
Murdered in an air “accident”.
Obama was born in Kenya!.
Obama was born a Muslim in Kenya, that’s why he wants to bring to America all the Muslims he can muster. 2 Million and counting.
Obama’s birth certificate lists his father as a citizen of Kenya Africa, Kenya did not exist until 1963. The hospital listed on the certificate did not exist until 1978. Look it up, easy to check.
If we are LUCKY Mr. Trump will read this, he is the only one that has the backing to challenge this, the American people sure do not.
I agree, and hope when Trump is president he will disqualify O’bummers validity and remove any and all retirement benefits and throws him in jail for perjury. Just today, he gave away another 4 Billion Dollars.
Exactly ! But I suspect that this was all part of the plan of the Democrats in order to get some of their more “illegal” candidates in line for the oval office run’s to come . Sort of like ‘the president has been set . Obama was the first and the Republicans put Cruz up as a candidate (in the event that he should be elected) , they as a collective party have been working hard to get the Constitution destroyed as it blocks their agenda of one party , total domination and dictatorship and control of the American people . At least that is the way I see it . Right or Wrong .
Right on Wyatt !
RIGHT, Wyatt. No member of congress should be elected as president. Every one of them, including cruz, has been bought and sold by the political elite, in both parties. The UN Agenda 21 calls for the “selection” of a US president by the NWO corporate oligarchy. This will be achieved if there is ever a constitutional convention, which is their scheme to rewrite our Constitution to give the executive branch control over every other branch of government and to remove our Bill of Rights. No more checks and balances will turn our Republic into a dictatorship. Follow cruz’s campaign funding to see the long list of globalist who support him. TRUMP is not one of them, is independent, and funds his own campaign. As President, he will owe no big favors to big donors and, therefore, no big favors.
You are very right.
Well said, and truthful.
Wrong get over youself
Due to Congress’ ignorant and illegal memorandum re. McCain’s eligibility that killed the subject for everyone. Had the question been about Obama’s eligibility I believe that such a memorandum would have gone to court and been struck down as unconstitutional.
I believe that the intent of our Fore Fathers who wrote the US Constitution was to have a Second Generation American to serve in the Highest Office in the Land. That is why they changed the wording from US Citizen to Natural Born Citizen. At the time of it’s writing, theirs and everyone’s else’s definition of a Natural Born Citizen was anyone born in the United States or it’s territories, who’s Parents are US Citizens (The Law of Nations, Vattel, 1758). By his own admission, Obama was a Dual Citizen at birth. The Courts attitude on the matter, was once Congress Certified and elected Obama through the Electoral College process, that made him eligible to be POTUS, that is why they will not hear the case. By Congress certifying Obama as being eligible, that in turn, has made Senator Ted Cruz, eligible, too. That’s why I do not believe that the Supreme Court will touch this case with a ten foot pole, because at the end of the day, Congress determines who is eligible and who is not. When they certified Obama they failed to uphold the US Constitution and they are all guilty, from Vice President Dick Cheney (President of the Senate) on down. You can look at the State of our Union and see what happens when you lower the Standards and do not uphold the US Constitution.
Correct. Those members of Congress who voted to ignore the Constitution should be removed form their posts and never again be allowed to become any part of the political system.
If Cruz takes this to the Supreme Court, wouldn’t it be interesting if Obama’s name came up?
What would those justices do then???? If they rule Cruz is ineligible won’t they have to remove Obama from office and strike down all the executive orders he has issued, not to mention the legislation he didn’t veto? How about those climate deals and the Iranian debacle?
Come on Ted, get cracking on this case. It might be YOUR one chance to “Make America Great Again.”
I R Waywright – cruz has no intention of “making America great again.” You obviously don’t know anything about him except what he tells you – LOL. Get educated. cruz would be one of the worst presidents ever, just like obama.
Nobody can be worse than Obama.Maybe only Hillary.
Cruz received a $500,000 loan from Goldman Sachs for his Senate run. Where do you think his loyalties will reside? Why to the international banksters, of course!
If Cruz takes this to the Supreme Court, wouldn’t it be interesting if Obama’s name came up?
What would those justices do then???? If they rule Cruz is ineligible won’t they have to remove Obama from office and strike down all the executive orders he has issued, not to mention the legislation he didn’t veto? How about those climate deals and the Iranian debacle?
Come on Ted, get cracking on this case. It might be YOUR one chance to “Make America Great Again.”
The court refused to hear it. It is still going on.
Dan Smith, I am also so mad at that point where no one challenged Obama’s citizenship qualification???? Now, No Liberal or Democrats should even speak up about these great men’s citizenships, because these Leaders are pure Patriots to our We the People and our Nation! Obama, is in office to spy for the Enemies and give the enemies all the data and technologies and funding that they need to conquer our Nation. Why is Obama the Traitor not yet arrested or have someone SHUT him up during his SOTU Address???? Dang, I would have!!! Obama is not an American! The question of where he was born is still a MYSTERY!!! Whoever produced a Hawaii Birth Certificate for Obama must be hanged, because some of the required information were missing?????
The person who produced the BC was murdered because they were afraid she would talk.
Cause the elites protected him and scared everyone else, he should be removed and it should have never been allowed, look how many times he has done the opposite of what the people want we need to take back OUR POWER it is We the People not congress, senates, or the courts, term limits, no retirement benefits, and a cut in pay, we only ok a raise, get rid of excitive order, should never been done in the first place, and this political correctness, gone, that is just to shut everyone up, lobbyists gone, something important should be what we vote on sense our representatives can’t do it right.
What’s more important everything he passed or vetoed as President or Senator for that matters, can be reversed as unlawful. His Secret Service protection for life will be null and void. This stink will lead past Cruz, Rubio etc. It will lead back to Obama too.
It was challenged,by none other than Donald Trump,but the media was against him,he could not produce a birth certificate until he had long been president,after which he produced a birth certificate which is very questionable.His own mother said he was born in Kenya,where his father was an avoud Communist !
Obamas eligibility was never challenged because the Republican Party is full of a bunch of gutless DO NOTHINGS!!!!!!!
Because they are all paid off.And they want to make slaves from working regular people.We are already working like slaves.Are wages are not enough for supporting of our families because too much of our earning is taking from us by taxes.(I mean from regular hard working people-rich have loopholes ,government workers have loopholes ) And they steal from middle class and give to all illigals.And they steal fom us and give to themselves and create many good paid positions for their famielies too.That’s why I will vote for Tramp ,the only hope he can help us.Everybody else is looking only how much money they can steal when be in office.
Amen to that, Banish
Dan Smith-
Actually, there have been quite a number of people who have attempted to get this (and other birth issues) resolved, but the courts have routinely resorted to that chickenshit “you have no standing to sue” dodge.
Most Americans are completely unaware that the Constitution is a pact between State Representatives and Federal representatives, and “we the people” are fucking out of it, despite the Preamble. Here, check out this Patrick Henry quote:
“I have the highest veneration of those Gentleman, — but, Sir, give me leave to demand, what right had they to say, We, the People? My political curiosity, exclusive of my anxious solicitude for the public welfare, leads me to ask who authorized them to speak the language of, We, the People, instead of We, the States? States are the characteristics, and the soul of the confederation. If the States be not the agents of this compact, it must be one of great consolidated National Government of the people of all the States.”
— Patrick Henry(1736-1799) US Founding Father
Source: in Debates in the 1788 Virginia debates, stated on June 4, 1788
And if that ain’t enough, this court ruling should suffice to clear the cobwebs:
“But, indeed, NO PRIVATE PERSON has a right to complain, by suit in court, on the ground of a breach of the Constitution. The Constitution it is true, is a compact, but he is not a party to it. The States are the parties to it. And they may complain. If they do, they are entitled to redress. Or they may waive the right to complain. ” Padelford, Fay & Co., vs.
Mayor and Aldermen of the City of Savannah 14 Ga. 438, 520
This citation alone should suffice to get even the most ignorant hip to why courts routinely deny Constitutional challenges by either citizens OR Citizens(there’s a difference). The only way a court would consider a challenge to D’ohbama is if you could persuade enough reps of your State that there’s grounds to file suit BY THE STATE – and most reps these days are on more payrolls than just those the State provides, and/or they can have their arms twisted by other means, fair or foul, e.g.:
“History records that the moneychangers have used every form of abuse, deceit, intrigue, and violent means necessary to maintain control over governments by controlling money and it’s issuance.”
If the rich bastards want something, they get it, by hook or by crook.
~James Madison
Presuming he was a natural born citizen; he lost that status with he was adopted into Indonesian citizenship, and if you lose it, you cannot get it back.
But Obama is only one person, he was aided and abetted by everyone in Congress and the ‘inferior’ Supreme Court. They all knew he wasn’t constitutionally yet never said a word… not even till today. It makes me believe they’re pushing for the ‘one world government’ they’ve been pushing for since the UN was formed.
Agree with you, but to take it farther, Rubio had zero parents who were US citizens at the time of his birth. He was born in Miami and his parents were naturalized after. He is an anchor baby, not natural born.
you are 100% correct. This must be brought out as well NOW. What are we doing allowing this crap to continue? We as American’s have a duty to stand for our Constitution regardless of who we would like to have as President. Bin Larden has a child with an American student in the Middle East that child by every ones standard that does not agree with the Constitution may become PRESIDENT OF THE USA bend over and kiss your butt good bye. This is what will happen if we do not stop this NOW!!!
Ask any member of Congress why they never question him, or others on their constitutionally eligible status. You may get the answer I received back in 2009 when I asked my senators why the Senate question John McCain but didn’t question Barack Obama and he wrote he (Obama) was ‘investigated’ and was eligible. I wrote back asking where they found that information and why wasn’t it passed down to we citizens that obviously wanted to know: I’m still waiting for and answer.
Right he needs to go.
Cruz, like me is a Canadian Citizen. I was born in Canada to Canadian parents and lived in Canada. My children were born before I got my US Citizenship in 1962. That made them Canadian Citizens also. I wanted to get my Canadian Citizenship back. They told me I was still a Canadian Citizen as long as I was born there and lived there. I would like to send the paper work to one of the News Channels, but not sure how to do it.
So he is not eligible at all.But nowadays all politicians are making fan from our constitution because lowers are available and they can turn upside down every document for money.
You make a great point. I agree with you 100%. And I remember when the issue came up. Trump didn’t raise it. The media asked him about it. Soon after he and Cruz were engaged in political swipes at each other, and Trump brought it up. He seems to be right…………….again.
Trump is right. Cruz can’t be the President of the United States because he is a Derivative Citizen of the US. My son was born in France while I was stationed there.
He is a Derivative Citizen of the US and can be anything he wants to be except the President of the US. Both his mother and I are life long American Citizens. We had to take him to the US Embassy to register him or the French could call him up for the draft. So why is Cruz still running for President?
Bob, you hit on the subject that must come out. I did some research and what I found was that Cruz should have applied (his Mother) was reguared by law to apply for what is called a( CRBA) known as a Consular Report of Birth Abroad. Cruz should be asked about this.
WE believe that Mr. Trump was not trying to cause trouble for Mr. Cruz ( which we like), but Mr. Trump was giving Cruz advice so he would not have to go through a long line of courts and heart break. We just got a letter from Trump Team this morning, they answered a lot of our questions, refreshing. We believe that Mr. Trump if given the chance can make America Great Again, He has proved it with his own business’ as far as Hillary, if she can not stand up to her husband how in the world can she stand up for America, Mr. Trump has our vote.
Sorry – You are wrong – Ted Cruz’s mother was and is a US Citizen and was when he was born. Check the facts first
Sorry, you are wrong, mom’s citizenship is inadequate to confer natural born citizen status. Check the facts first.
There are three main categories of citizenship.
1. A naturalized citizen (look it up)
2. A person born on U.S. soil regardless of the citizenship of the parents at the time of birth.
3. A person born of two citizen parents at the time of birth even if born abroad. (NATURAL BORN CITIZEN)
WE THE PEOPLE have been lied to and cheated by the very elected representatives sworn to protect us. If we continue to compromise the constitutional directives, that the wisdom of the founding fathers gave to us, we will surely fail as a free republic. The intent of the NATURAL BORN CITIZEN requirement, as is plainly stated, was and is designed to prevent DUAL LOYALTIES and foreign influences from infiltrating and corrupting the office of PRESIDENT AND VICE-PRESIDENT. Is there any doubt that this corruption has been accomplished by our present office holder?
I wonder why Our present president and his backers have not put in their input on this matter! Hmmmmm..?
I have to correct everyone. Do your homework. Bothe father and mother of Cruze were Canadian citizens as both of them were on the voter registry of Canada. Only Canadians can be on there to vote. Hence, there is foul play in the paper work to get Cruze elected.
That is true. Only Canadian citizens may vote in Canadian elections. The Cruz camp tried to fuzzy it up by saying that, “at the time that their names appeared on the voter registry, there were people placed on the voter registry in error”. I don’t believe it. I have American-Canadian friends who say that no one gets on the Canadian voter registry without either a Canadian birth certificate or a naturalized citizenship certificate.
Sorry folk , I’m not againt Ted Cruz . But running for president of United State your parents get to be natural born in us and Ted get to be born in the us too. unless you were born on navy or army base like McCain that’s OK.
Sorry folk , I’m not againt Ted Cruz . But running for president of United State your parents get to be natural born in us and Ted get to be born in the us too. unless you were born on navy or army base like McCain that’s OK.
Sorry folk , I’m not againt Ted Cruz . But running for president of United State your parents get to be natural born in us and Ted get to be born in the us too. unless you were born on navy or army base like McCain that’s OK.
So give me an excuse for the thing living in the white house
where is his legal right to the title
Good question..I’d love to know the answer to this one!
Because we have a bunch of GUTLESS Politicians who were affraid to challenge the Black Fraud in the WH! Even his BC is a fraud!
There are not excuses.He is false president.
W R O N G !
R I G H T, No question about it.
Right On
As most of us knows, the Constitution was signed in 1776. It wasn’t adopted until 1789. A year later on March 26, 1790 Congressed passed a Bill stating that a child born outside the seas and lands of American by an American mother shell be considered a “natural born citizen”.
Male bovine excrement !
I would second that, Danny Stewart. Your assertion is indeed male bovine excrement, Tim Barnett.
Good comment. Cruz flip flops more than his fried pones
As most of us know, the Constitution was signed in 1776. It wasn’t adopted until 1789. A year later on March 26, 1790 Congress passed a Bill stating that a child born outside the seas and lands of American by an American mother shell be considered a “natural born citizen”.
The following is to help the understanding of the Constitutional provisions of “Natural Born Citizenship”:
“The intent of the law is the force of the law?” In other words, when a legislature introduces a Bill, and then passes it into Law, it is to serve a certain “purpose,” and to achieve that purpose is how the law is to be enforced.
The “intent” or purpose of any law can be found in it’s “legislative notes,” and in the case of Article 2, section 1, clause 5, of the U.S. Constitution, it is found in “James Madison’s Notes to the Constitutional Convention of 1787,” (published in 1835, upon his death), and other writings of the Framers of the Constitution that attended it. Such as, David Ramsay, who addressed the “natural born citizen” issue in an article published in 1789, which I have posted several times on FaceBook.
According to the Framers, the purpose of the “natural born citizen” clause was to prevent “diplomatic influence through marriage.” To understand this more fully, at the time of the adoption of the Constitution, governments were generally monarchies that used marriage diplomatically. Thus changing the course of government through marriage, rather than war. The idea of citizens governing themselves was unheard of, and a threat to the monarchical system. The Founders and Framers realized that there would be most likely an immediate threat to their self-government experiment, and tried to setup blocks to this possibility, diplomatic marriage just being one of them.
Laws can only be changed, or repealed through acts of the legislature of competent jurisdiction. In the case of the U.S. Constitution, by an Amendment to it, according to the provisions of Article 5 of it. The Congress cannot short circuit this requirement by the use of their routine legislative law making powers. The only way the purpose, or intent of the law, can be changed, or altered, in this case, the “natural born citizen” provision of the Constitution, is by an Article 5 Amendment. To my knowledge that has not been attempted or accomplished. Wherefore, until this has occurred, the “natural born citizen” is a citizen that was born of “natural born citizen” parents. The one parent citizenship is counter to the “intent,” or purpose of the law, which is always an intricate part of the law. Without it’s observance, it is like sailing a ship without a rudder, and will remain part of the law until it is properly changed by law, according to the provisions of the law.
John Kotmair, think it through. If both parents have to be natural born citizens for their children to be natural born citizens, then who is a natural born citizen?
Let’s say you were born in the U.S. but your great, great, great, great grandmother was not. So her children were not natural born citizens, regardless of where they were born. And so their children were not natural born citizens, neither were their children, and so on down the line to you. So that makes you not a natural born citizen.
So, if both parents have to be natural born citizens for their children to be natural born citizens, only those whose ancestry are all natural born citizens, all the way back to Adam, would be natural born citizens. Absurd!
You are only half correct. The 2 citizen parents can be either natural born or naturalized. They must, however be CITIZENS AT THE TIME OF BIRTH.
Both parents have to be “US citizens” at time of birth. Two naturalized US citizens who have a baby, it is a natural born citizen. Parents don’t have to be natural born citizens, just US citizens at time of babies birth. Don’t try to make it overly complicated.
In that case, Obama should not be President. Seems the powers that be could not enforce your view. Surely the GOP would have said something or done something in the courts while BOB was running for Prez? My conclusion: it’s controversial, but not enforceable.
What happen with Obama
IF A MUSLIM (OBAMA) CAN GET IN OFFICE CRUZ WILL HAVE NO PROBLEM HES MORE AMERICAN THEN OBAMA
are you doubters brain dead ? what is wrong with you people? Trump’s mother was born in Scotland and who know’s for sure where the person in the White house was born, lot’s of stories out there about that and they are still out there
If Trumps mother was a naturalized US citizen when he was born, then he IS a natural born citizen.
Trump’s mother became a naturalized U.S. citizen in 1932 at the age of 20. Trump’s mother and father were married in 1936. Trump was born in 1946, the second to the last of five children born to the Trumps. Some other information that you might not know is that Donald Trump went to New York Military Academy through the eighth grade where he attained the rank of Cadet Captain. You also may not know that he has an economics degree from the excellent Wharton School of Business at the University of Pennsylvania. The more I find out about Donald Trump, the more I like him and believe that he is the right man for the job. I used to favor Marco Rubio (and I would still like to see him in a Trump administration).
Thanks, Jay Bell-
i appreciate the info, and if true, i agree that Trump IS a natural born Citizen, and DOES meet the Constitutional requirements for the office of the Presidency…unlike the Current Occupant and several contenders for the title.
Unfortunately, he’s a member of the 1% who really own and rule this country, so his presidential decisions will be dictated by the interests of the 1%, or he’ll end up like the Kennedys.
My question for him would be as follows:
“Do you believe that your oath of office is legally binding, and will you obey the Constitution’s limitations upon the lawful exercise of your powers; in addition, what will you do to root out all oathbreakers from the Executive Branch of the Federal government?”
The chances of me getting close enough to Trump to ask him that question are likely to be zilch.
this Harvard professor tripe wants Cruz to get the nomination because tripe he is a lapdog of Killary Clinton because he knows if Killary has to run against Trump he will lose ,but Killary has no chance of winning if she runs against Trump ,the lying Cow Killary Clinton has no credibility ,she is a lying crooked Bitch who can not be trusted ,she really should be in Prison right now for all the crimes she has committed ,anyone else would be in prison already ,but the rest of the crooked Politicians are covering for the Clinton Bitch , our System in Washington is corrupt ,
JJ – you are SPOT ON. No matter how the morons disagree, they do not, and cannot, present any evidence whatsoever to support their false position. Hang in there – the trolls will be slithering this page like vultures. Cruz ineligible according to every Founding document, Federalist papers, Vattel, and Founding letters. The only people who claim to disagree are either the liars or the uninformed. All the evidence declaring cruz ineligible is written clearly and comprehensible. The corrupt politicians, paid trolls, ignorant voters, and liars keep trying to prove otherwise, but they can’t, so they resort to inconsequential and irrelevant stories with more subjectivity than truth.
Who is JJ?
Obama is illegally President! He gave a speech while running for Senator in Illinois in which he stated he was born in Kenya. Michelle also said so. His grandmother,, and half-brother said they were in the hospital with his mother in Kenya when he was born there. His birth certificate is from Kenya. Disregard the ones from Hawaii!!!!! All this is available to be viewed in a video.
U are right I fought and was a POW for this Nation to be FREE! What was he thinking, that no ome would find it out ( now days ) like google!!
While my husband was in the Army during the Vietnam War, my son was born in Germany in an U.S. Hospital.
Before I could return to the States, I had to write to the American Consulate to have him placed on my Passport and fill out papers with proof of birth in an U.S. Hospital so he could be registered as a naturalized citizen . This had to be done because he had dual citizenship. When he was 8 years old, we took him to the Federal Bldg. in our city and brought all the documents so he could receive a certificate of naturalization, had his picture taken and this is all on file in Washington D.C. As his parents, we renounce his German citizenship.
If it’s only necessary for a candidate’s mother to be a citizen, that’s one of two things: The father is being discriminated against, and any child on this earth whose mother is a citizen of the United States can become president of the nation.
So a known enemy nation can send a woman to the USA to become a naturalized citizen, the have a child eligible to become president of the USA. I don’t believe that was the thinking of our founders when they put that clause in the Constitution.
So where did the traitors come from that has put this nation in the situation of today? I’ll say out of the back door from the ‘house across the street’.
Please someone Actually quot the Constitution here for all to read and see as TRUTH! On my way to the Library!!! Regardless of personal LIKE or DISLIKE, the LAW is the LAW of our country and we need to be followed otherwise we open the door to all of our Laws to PERSONAL INTERPRETATION… IF THAT IS A FACT THEN SOME OF YOU PEOPLE NEED TO GO HIDE because personal interpretation of the LAW means I get to DO AS I LIKE!
There are RULES to CHANGING our Constitution and as of lately these Rules lie dormant…
If that is the case; and is not then Trump is disqualified also. Only one of his parents were a US Citizen.
Wrong. Trump’s mother became a US citizen years before he was born. Trump is a natural born citizen.
DIRECTLY QUOTED THE CONSTITUTION READS:
Article Two, Section 1 of the United States Constitution sets forth the eligibility requirements for serving as President of the United States:
No person except a “””NATURAL BORN Citizen”””, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.[1]
The controversy arising from conspiracy theories over Barack Obama’s citizenship and eligibility for the presidency prompted a number of Republican state and federal legislators to propose legislation aimed at requiring future presidential candidates to release copies of their birth certificates. The Hawaii State legislature went in the opposite direction, to limit the lengths that proponents can go in pursuit of this issue, as the pursuits have drained resources from the state.[2]
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1 Federal initiatives
1.1 Electoral College
1.2 Birth certificate
1.3 Hawaii statehood
2 State initiatives
2.1 Alabama
2.2 Arizona
2.3 Colorado
2.4 Connecticut
2.5 Georgia
2.6 Hawaii
2.7 Indiana
2.8 Iowa
2.9 Kansas
2.10 Louisiana
2.11 Maine
2.12 Michigan
2.13 Missouri
2.13.1 Constitutional amendment
2.13.2 Legislation
2.13.3 Other
2.14 Montana
2.15 Nebraska
2.16 New Hampshire
2.17 Oklahoma
2.18 Pennsylvania
2.19 Tennessee
2.20 Texas
3 See also
4 References
All the people alive “at the time of the adoption of this constitution” are dead. Therefore no-one alive today can be Prez. That’s my interpretation of the above quote (posted by Jim N.). Obviously I am wrong. Point being — it’s easy to misinterpret the law as written.
. The constitution states that any person running for President must be born of both Parents that are born citizens od the United States as well as the person running for this position. According to the Constitution as it states Both Parents have to be natural born citizens of America . This would diffenantly make Cruz the Same as Obama he and his father were neither born in America only the Mother, where the Constitution states both Mother and Father have to be born as well as the one running for the Position of President. Obama is in the Same category as Cruz he and his Father were both born in Kenya Africa he therefore is not legally in this position. So according to what the Constitution states makes Cruz not legal to hold or run for this office,
It does NOT state that both parents must be “natural born”, only that they must be US citizens at the time of birth of the child.
I THINK YOU DONT REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CONSTITUTION REALLY SAYS
My thoughts of Cruz’s would center around his not being a full US Citizen for the 14 year time period because he only recently gave up his Canadian citizenship. Does anyone have any thoughts on that. I am a supporter of Trump but Cruz would be second choice. Trump says Cruz should verify this problem because obviously Cruz would be a great Vice-President choice.
So where is the Court case against our current President if he doesn’t meet these requirements beinf discussed? Or has it gone and passed as a “Fait Accompli?”( completed action)..Very interesting….If Trump (via legal scholars) is correct then we lost a good man…running in the race, no matter what your view may be…
I have a question. When illegal immigrants come over here and have a child, the child is considered a US citizen. Ok, Cruz was born in Canada, doesn’t that make him a Canadian citizen? or are there 2 laws regarding this?
All I can say is we have a so-called president now who fits that description. His daddy, if he ever figures out who it is, was most likely not a citizen and he was born in Kenya, faked birth certificate not withstanding.
Trump is not “might be right”, he is right… and Cruz knows it. He’s just trying to pull “another one” off. A citizen of Cuba and the USA with a Canadian “freebie” is not a natural born citizen of the USA.
Why isn’t he a natural born citizen of Cuba: Or hell, make that Canada; he’s been a citizen of two nation longer than he has one.
TRUMP MOTHER WAS BORN IN SCOTLAND THINK ABOUT THAT
The Liberals, Democrats, Bernie Sanders supporters, Donald Trump and Establishment Republicans (RINOs) all want to take Cruz out of the race. Cruz has stated, and rightly so, that long standing interpretation of the Constitution gives him the right to be POTUS. Filing a suit at this time against Cruz will likely knock him out of the race, and that is the intent. It is a supporter of Bernie Sanders that has filed the suit, but you can bet your bottom dollar that Trump is happy with this. Ted Cruz is a proven patriot and conservative. Pray that he triumphs in this attack.
Triumph at subverting the constitution? Wouldn’t that be fantastic? Why don’t we just throw out the entire constitution now? Congress doesn’t recognize the constitution anymore and the usurper in the White House surely doesn’t either.
The fact is Cruz is not eligible. Cruz should stand trial for high treason for subverting the constitution for his own personal gain. For this Cruz must hang. I am all for that since I am fed up with the treasonous ways of political scumbags in this once great nation.
WE SHOULD NOT JUDGE ANYONE THAT WE DONT REALLY KNOW ABOUT CRUZ WAS BORN FROM A AMERICAN MOTHER WHO IS A NATURAL CITIZEN OF THE US CRUZ FATHER WORKED IN CANADA WHERE CRUZ WAS BORN FROM A AMERICAN MOTHER OUR MILITARY HAS CHILDREN BORN IN FOREIGN COUNTRIES AND YOU SAY THEY ARE NOT CITIZENS THINK ABOUT THIS TRUMP MOTHER WAS BORN IN SCOTLAND
Where was all this controversy when our current POTUS was running? No-one did anything about
his extremely murky situation which has NEVER been proven. Cover ups of the most extreme nature
abound in his background yet here he is 7 yrs later still in office and never made to prove anything.
All his records sealed and the “birth certificate” produced full of inaccuracies. NOW there are questions
about Cruz by the DEMS!?! WOW..
Obama’s father was not an American citizen. Both he and his son were born in Kenya
Sorry, but that analogy is absurd.
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The following three statements are, in fact, technically correct (sans the bias—see emphasis) in saying that:
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(a) ‘Cruz was not born on American soil’;
(b) ‘BOTH [emphasis mine] parents were not American citizens’; and
(c) Cruz ‘also HAD [emphasis mine] dual citizenship (until a few months ago)’.
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Other than the biased emphasis, none of what was just stated (above) is in dispute!
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From there, correctly quoted (in part) is what our U.S. Constitution (Article 1, Section 2) has to say … respecting the issue of who is eligible to run for, and/or attain, the Office of the U.S. Presidency! To wit:
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“No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the united states, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States”.
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And neither is this isolated quotation, from the U.S. Constitution, in any dispute whatsoever! This quotation however, cannot be considered to be a citation (to buttress statements (a) through (c) above) since it does not directly address, and/or apply to, those three statements!
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What is in dispute however, was the following statements that implies that the U.S. Constitution has in any way defined (either explicitly or implicitly) that the definition of a ‘natural born citizen’ is that: “[n]atural-born citizens are those born in the country of parents who are citizens – it is necessary that they be born of a father who is a citizen”; and that: “[i]f a person is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country”.
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With all due respect (unless and until, proof can be produced that such a definition exists in our U.S. Constitution), that last assessment is 100% incorrect! Other than that, it is a personal opinion … which cannot (legitimately) be substituted for what the U.S. Constitution permits.
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Even Rubio would have a problem. His parents lived in the USA but were not citizens at the time of his birth.. let Cruz run for PM in Canada and Rubio take over for the Castro’s in Cuba
The Constitution directly addresses the minimum qualifications necessary to serve as President. In addition to requiring thirty-five years of age and fourteen years of residency, the Constitution limits the presidency to “a natural born Citizen.”1× All the sources routinely used to interpret the Constitution confirm that the phrase “natural born Citizen” has a specific meaning: namely, someone who was a U.S. citizen at birth with no need to go through a naturalization proceeding at some later time. And Congress has made equally clear from the time of the framing of the Constitution to the current day that, subject to certain residency requirements on the parents, someone born to a U.S. citizen parent generally becomes a U.S. citizen without regard to whether the birth takes place in Canada, the Canal Zone, or the continental United States.2×
While some constitutional issues are truly difficult, with framing-era sources either nonexistent or contradictory, here, the relevant materials clearly indicate that a “natural born Citizen” means a citizen from birth with no need to go through naturalization proceedings. The Supreme Court has long recognized that two particularly useful sources in understanding constitutional terms are British common law3× and enactments of the First Congress.4× Both confirm that the original meaning of the phrase “natural born Citizen” includes persons born abroad who are citizens from birth based on the citizenship of a parent.
As to the British practice, laws in force in the 1700s recognized that children born outside of the British Empire to subjects of the Crown were subjects themselves and explicitly used “natural born” to encompass such children.5× These statutes provided that children born abroad to subjects of the British Empire were “natural-born Subjects . . . to all Intents, Constructions, and Purposes whatsoever.”6× The Framers, of course, would have been intimately familiar with these statutes and the way they used terms like “natural born,” since the statutes were binding law in the colonies before the Revolutionary War. They were also well documented in Blackstone’s Commentaries,7× a text widely circulated and read by the Framers and routinely invoked in interpreting the Constitution.
No doubt informed by this longstanding tradition, just three years after the drafting of the Constitution, the First Congress established that children born abroad to U.S. citizens were U.S. citizens at birth, and explicitly recognized that such children were “natural born Citizens.” The Naturalization Act of 17908× provided that “the children of citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens: Provided, That the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States . . . .”9× The actions and understandings of the First Congress are particularly persuasive because so many of the Framers of the Constitution were also members of the First Congress. That is particularly true in this instance, as eight of the eleven members of the committee that proposed the natural born eligibility requirement to the Convention served in the First Congress and none objected to a definition of “natural born Citizen” that included persons born abroad to citizen parents.10×
The proviso in the Naturalization Act of 1790 underscores that while the concept of “natural born Citizen” has remained constant and plainly includes someone who is a citizen from birth by descent without the need to undergo naturalization proceedings, the details of which individuals born abroad to a citizen parent qualify as citizens from birth have changed. The pre-Revolution British statutes sometimes focused on paternity such that only children of citizen fathers were granted citizenship at birth.11× The Naturalization Act of 1790 expanded the class of citizens at birth to include children born abroad of citizen mothers as long as the father had at least been resident in the United States at some point. But Congress eliminated that differential treatment of citizen mothers and fathers before any of the potential candidates in the current presidential election were born. Thus, in the relevant time period, and subject to certain residency requirements, children born abroad of a citizen parent were citizens from the moment of birth, and thus are “natural born Citizens.”
The original meaning of “natural born Citizen” also comports with what we know of the Framers’ purpose in including this language in the Constitution. The phrase first appeared in the draft Constitution shortly after George Washington received a letter from John Jay, the future first Chief Justice of the United States, suggesting:
[W]hether it would not be wise & seasonable to provide a . . . strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government; and to declare expressly that the Command in chief of the american [sic] army shall not be given to, nor devolve on, any but a natural born Citizen.12×
As recounted by Justice Joseph Story in his famous Commentaries on the Constitution, the purpose of the natural born Citizen clause was thus to “cut[] off all chances for ambitious foreigners, who might otherwise be intriguing for the office; and interpose[] a barrier against those corrupt interferences of foreign governments in executive elections.”13× The Framers did not fear such machinations from those who were U.S. citizens from birth just because of the happenstance of a foreign birthplace. Indeed, John Jay’s own children were born abroad while he served on diplomatic assignments, and it would be absurd to conclude that Jay proposed to exclude his own children, as foreigners of dubious loyalty, from presidential eligibility.14×
While the field of candidates for the next presidential election is still taking shape, at least one potential candidate, Senator Ted Cruz, was born in a Canadian hospital to a U.S. citizen mother.15× Despite the happenstance of a birth across the border, there is no question that Senator Cruz has been a citizen from birth and is thus a “natural born Citizen” within the meaning of the Constitution. Indeed, because his father had also been resident in the United States, Senator Cruz would have been a “natural born Citizen” even under the Naturalization Act of 1790. Similarly, in 2008, one of the two major party candidates for President, Senator John McCain, was born outside the United States on a U.S. military base in the Panama Canal Zone to a U.S. citizen parent.16× Despite a few spurious suggestions to the contrary, there is no serious question that Senator McCain was fully eligible to serve as President, wholly apart from any murky debate about the precise sovereign status of the Panama Canal Zone at the time of Senator McCain’s birth.17× Indeed, this aspect of Senator McCain’s candidacy was a source of bipartisan accord. The U.S. Senate unanimously agreed that Senator McCain was eligible for the presidency, resolving that any interpretation of the natural born citizenship clause as limited to those born within the United States was “inconsistent with the purpose and intent of the ‘natural born Citizen’ clause of the Constitution of the United States, as evidenced by the First Congress’s own statute defining the term ‘natural born Citizen.’”18× And for the same reasons, both Senator Barry Goldwater and Governor George Romney were eligible to serve as President although neither was born within a state. Senator Goldwater was born in Arizona before its statehood and was the Republican Party’s presidential nominee in 1964,19× and Governor Romney was born in Mexico to U.S. citizen parents and unsuccessfully pursued the Republican nomination for President in 1968.20×
There are plenty of serious issues to debate in the upcoming presidential election cycle. The less time spent dealing with specious objections to candidate eligibility, the better. Fortunately, the Constitution is refreshingly clear on these eligibility issues. To serve, an individual must be at least thirty-five years old and a “natural born Citizen.” Thirty-four and a half is not enough and, for better or worse, a naturalized citizen cannot serve. But as Congress has recognized since the Founding, a person born abroad to a U.S. citizen parent is generally a U.S. citizen from birth with no need for naturalization. And the phrase “natural born Citizen” in the Constitution encompasses all such citizens from birth. Thus, an individual born to a U.S. citizen parent — whether in California or Canada or the Canal Zone — is a U.S. citizen from birth and is fully eligible to serve as President if the people so choose.
* Paul and Patricia Saunders Professor of Law, Georgetown University.
** Distinguished Lecturer in Law, Georgetown University; Partner, Bancroft PLLC.
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If it worked for Obama, it should work for Cruz or Rubio (not to mention McCain). But since they’re both Republicans, all bets are off.
Cruz is not a dual citizen, he is a triple citizen. His father was Cuban, making him a citizen of Cuba. He was born in Canada to foreign parents, making him a Canadian Anchor Baby and his mother was possibly a US citizen, however she was registered to vote in Canada which would make her a Canadian citizen.
At best Cruz is a native born US citizen. No way in hell is Cruz a natural born citizen of any nation on this planet.
Rubio was born to two parents who were Cuban citizens. Rubio is an anchor baby and shouldn’t even be a US citizen in my opinion. When his parents were naturalized after his birth, Rubio became a naturalized US citizen.
Rubio is not a natural born citizen by a long shot. Maybe a natural born citizen of Cuba? At best Rubio could become dictator of Cuba someday.
millions has been spent to keep all information on Obama’s eligibility hid.
Yes just part of the corruption going on now!
I have read that millions have been spent on Obama’s secret documentation also. Among this information is also the affiliation with the International Brotherhood of Muslims, which it is my understanding that he had said a prayer in the White House with this organization the same day that he had canceled the National Day of Prayer. There is something wrong in this Administration and that is why I am voting for Trump. Not that I agree with everything he states, but he is the only one that has the same ideas that I have for the National Security of the United States.
We just got a letter from the Trump Team in N.Y. I felt a registered letter may get some of my questions answered, and they were. We were on a 9 month strike here out west when the copper mines shut down, shortly a day after we were married 40 years ago. I did the Victory garden, went to the stores bought veggies that were over ripe, canned them, Hubby was on Picket for $25.00 a day and I cleaned houses for $10.00 a day, we were making before the strike $150.00 a day each, we were smart enough to put our tax returns and cash in the bank, we also had 3 children to support, Trust me if it had not of been for our hunting skills, mostly shooting Jack Rabbits, we would not have eaten. I learned how to cook Jack Rabbit over 100 ways, we were even on T.V. We are NRA members and have been for over 60 years, a true huntsman is not a terrorist, a true huntsman feeds, protect his family, and protects her home. .
You have hit head-on. My concern is word of 102000 Muslim refuges being brought by UPS Planes and even Governors not knowing where they are in their States..
AND those refugees are ALL Muslims in spite of the fact that Middle Eastern Christians are much more at risk from Muslim radicals. But the order was given that no Middle Eastern Christian was to be given preferential treatment–in spite of the fact that they are being systematically slaughtered by the radicals over there.
I understand that he wanted to abolish the “Day of Prayer”.
Also, a crook in ALL and any direction he spins.
In the 2012 book on OB even his grandmother says she was there when OB was born in a shack in Kenya, now she has passed on, even computers can be hacked, we never voted for OB and we can grip all we want, although it is on deaf ears. We are sticking by Mr. Trump and I have a saying, if you do not want an honest answer, don’t ask the question. Has anyone looked up on Google, Donald J. Trump business’ we spent over 20 minutes looking at his projects, amazing, just think about all the jobs he created, there is more to it than just putting up a building. I wonder how many mouths were fed because of Mr. Trump, think about it, if he can do that for his own business, my goodness what wonders can he do for our Great Country.
Thanks for this information, I have read other articles confirming that OB was born in Kenya! I agree with you on Trump…I believe he can do great things for our country!!! TRUMP 2016!!!
Obama advertised he was born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii for 16 years. If he was a natural born citizen of the USA (which we know he isn’t) he lost that status when he was adopted into Indonesian citizenship; and when you lose it, you cannot get it back.
You are so right!!!!!
do not fall victim to the nonsense spouted by the media. Of Course Obama was born in USA-Hawaii..
Wendyfarroer, really? Do you really think building casinos, then running them, then sending them into bankruptcy is good for America? Really?
Ding Ding Ding, check out your trolley because your engine must of pooped out, as if no business have ever gone bankrupt in the USA, but, how many of them ended up Billion dollar champions, are you in that bracket, ??????
What’s far more relevant is building a ten billion dollar world-wide conglomerate. If you don’t think that takes brains, motivation, persistence, and toughness you don’t have a clue about anything involving business.
You are absolutely right !! Our Country needs and begs for more jobs, feed our hungry children here in the USA, quit shipping our hard earned money to other countries, we need to take care of the Home Front. I truly believe that Mr. Trump has our welfare on the top of his list. My Hubby and I checked out on Google Donald J. Trump business’, we were in awe for over 20 min. to just think of how many people by his-self he created jobs for, builders, planners, truckers, janitors, plumbers, electricians, designers,book-keepers, my goodness the list must be a mile long. I would almost bet that Trump has created more jobs for Americans than OB ever thought of. We really like his straight talk, we do not need a kiss A-s in the White House, we need a Power House to stand up for Americans for America.
Why did Obama pay so much money to keep his past hid and why go to college as a foreign student? I think Mr. Cruz has shown in his heart he is an American.
Margie, I agree!
Personally, I’d rather require that the President was raised in the U.S. so he could have American values, not some other country’s values which contradict our Constitution.
But the real issue is: How can a good person avoid being corrupted once elected, especially since the adversary is working extra hard to corrupt every person in our government, with a priority on the top people?
The answer is prayer. Lots of it! And Ted knows it. And you can help! (Have you seen “War Room”?)
Ted Cruz’ Sunday school teacher has started A Time for Prayer on Tuesday mornings to pray that God blesses our country exceeding abundantly above all we can ask or think. They mention Ted and his family, but mostly they pray for our country. They really want the candidate God chooses to be elected. You can sign up for the conference call at https://www.tedcruz.org/pray/
You see, we can try to fix everything ourselves but we really don’t know the things we’d need to know to fix anything. But we know the One who does! So we work with God and let Him do the heavy lifting. After all, He is the only one who can change hearts. He is the only one who can give each of us Ephesians 3:20 days and years!
God bless you!
I think God should come down from the heavens and run the country. That would cut out the middleman.
Why? He’s as eligible as Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio.
what about obama and the British investigation that proved the so called mama in not
Obama gets the” Knickkers can do Anything they want, Cuz ‘They were Slaves Once’! Covers Everything FREE PASS!” It’s RACIST to Question Anything about the Parents, and Birthplace of the Kenyan Kommie ,Koranic, Kweer, Kween, Klown!!
LOL Wildman.. I totally agree with you.
That would seem to sum it up accurately.
Excellent.
that comment was just stupid and ignorant! Good home training! I will pray for you all! God be the Glory!
You forgot to mention Chia Pet. More with each viewing
My son was born in Germany on an air force base which was on German soil. We were given a birth certificate from the American in Frankfurt. When we got back to San Antonio Texas we had to go before a Federal judge and has him nationalized. An then we were told that he could not be the President of the US.
Robert Gean
Retired Air Force veteran
Were both of your son’s parents American citizens?
Yes!! I can trace my first ancestors to America in 1619 to Jamestown, VA. No, poor folks! He had to work to get money to bring his future wife to America. Can trace from the other side to VA in early 1700’s.
You were told wrong. A NBC does not have to be born in the USA.
With only one US citizen parent, they do. A Cuban parent, Cruz was born om Canadian soil, he’s not defined as a US Citizen.
He’s a Canadian Anchor Baby, at best.
What you describe is the same situation as John McCain (see facts in the article) and he qualified as “natural born” citizen because his father and mother were US Citizens, his father was in the military when McCain was born in Panama. Unless you were not a US Citizen when your son was born, you were told incorrectly that your son was ineligible to be President.
If he was born on a military base & both of you were US citizens at the time, he IS a natural born citizen.
That is exactly what I was told. I have 2 that were born in Japan in the AF hospital. Both parents are American.
So I guess it is not who you know, but who you —-.
I too was born in Germany on an army post and both my parents were US citizens. I had a German birth certificate and I have a US one signed by William P Rogers secretary of state with a wax seal and ribbon connecting the 2 pages together.I too was told that but later I was told I CAN become president ! Never had to go before a federal judge but had trouble getting my birth certificate since my Dad gave them my original when we came into country and they had to declare me.It was the weekend all offices closed and they needed it.But they said they would mail it. Right ! Well they stuck it in my Dad’s military records so for 21 years. My Mom sign an affidavit proving she was present during my birth to get me in school to even get married.Low and behold it was found 22 years later thanks to a fire in Marks building in St Louis.They had to go thought all records and a neighbor worked there and she found it.
But Cruz is legal to be President.One parent HAS to be a natural citizen and Cruz’s Mother is. Obummer Mom was NOT a citizen and that its why they are sealed.No one questioned him but they want to make this an issue .Cruz is the only one that is a CONSTITUTIONAL CONSERVATIVE and FOLLOWS THE CONSTITUTION and knows it. Trump would have to have someone read it to him and then interpret it for him.Cruz is my senator and he’s great. He has had my vote the second he said he was running. Nothing will change it either.
Obama’s mother, I believe, was born in Kansas. Why wasn’t she a citizen at the time of Obama’s birth?
Actually, if the child was born of U.S. citizen parents, on an U.S. military installation, or in an area controlled by the U.S. Gov’t. The child is considered “Natural Born”, even by our Founder’s understanding of the term, right out of Emer de Vattel’s book, THE LAW of NATIONS, which was reference material used by the Founders while constructing The U.S. Constitution. The original requirement was BOTH PARENTS HAD TO BE U.S. CITIZENS, but we know of a few presidents that managed to get around that… the one currently serving, for example. It is well documented in The Federalist Papers, but not strictly defined in The Constitution. Greta Susteren, on FCN, quoted Congress has defined it, but I have not been able to verify, what I thought she said.
Military is a whole lot difference. They are deployed for our country defense. Besides neither of Cruz patients were militany. His daddieo was a defecting Cuban sent over here when Castro rejected all his curs. If he knew he was so legal he would have done whast Trump suggested lasdt night. Tru!o may be a little loud BUT he ius no dummy. There is a reason he is where he is. His father made his own and Trump learned from him. Trump never gave his kids the golden spoon. He has them work for what they get.
His parents were not on the freebie rolls for rejected our countries mores.
Robert, was the mother of you son an American citizen at the time of your son’s birth? If so, I think that he is considered a natural born citizen and can be president. Look up Congress Bill – March 26,1790 A child born outside the seas and lands of America by a American mother shell be considered a natural born citizen.
If Cruz is not eligible, then Obama certainly is not either, and all of Obama’s actions while occupying the Whitehouse are illegal, and should be deemed invalid (which most are anyway, on both counts).
Obama was born in the state of Hawaii in 1961. Hawaii became a state in 1959.
You have no evidence of that. You probably have seen the bogus BC that bHo put out.
Obama was born in Hawaii, which is part of the US. Chia mother was an American citizen, but his father was not! The situation of the patents, however, is not determinative of the status of their child if the child is born within the jurisdiction of the US. A child born in the US is a natural born citizen of the US regardless of the citizenship of the parents according to Lynch v. Clarke. On the other hand, a 2011 report issued by the Congressional Research Service states that a person born abroad to parents who are US citizens. It should be noted that this opinion is not legally binding since it was not rendered by a court. Only case law has bearing on this issue. If the CRS opinion were to be upheld in court it appears that Ted Cruz would not not qualify to hold the office of Oresudent of the US because he was neither born within the jurisdiction of the US nor were both of his parents US citizens.
WRONG ! Both parents must be US citizens at time of birth & born in the US or on US controlled land, such as a military base, to be a natural born citizen. There IS a difference between a US citizen & a natural born US citizen.
Try the facts:
Oboma’s birth cert. states that he was born in a hospital that did not yet exist. His SS is one of someone that died in the late 1800’s in a state he had never been in.
YEsYES yes YES we need him removed now should have never been but the democrats are out to rule America at all cost illegally to take our rights away our jobs sent out of here so we are dependent on the crooked deems.
Hog wash. The Supreme Court has ruled on this and since Cruz was not naturalized he is natural born. Both parents do not have to be U.S. citizens. https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/401/815/case.html
Yes both parents have to be American citizens when Cruz was born for him to be natural born.
Supreme Court Cases that define “Natural Born Citizen” as One Born on U.S. Soil to Citizen Parents –
Venus, 12 U.S. 8 Cranch 253 253 (1814)
Shanks v DuPont, 28 U.S. 3 Pet. 242 242 (1830)
Dred Scott v Sandford, 60 U.S. 393 (1857)
Minor v Happersett, 88 U.S. 162 (1875)
United States v Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898)
Perkins v. Elg, 307 U.S. 325 (1939)
The supreme court has defined it succinctly five times and cited that definition over twenty five times. Trying to say the definition is uncertain is 240 years too late as that horse left the barn some thirty times since then.
Yes they do and we need to enforce this obama should have never happened but people like you have made America vulnerable to illegal crooks.
Trump simply raised the specter of the matter being “headed to court” and thus the possibility of it giving some voters pause, were the two on a ticket together. It’s a valid point. Whether it’s true or not that Cruz could qualify, it poses the threat of distraction and a shadow across the election. I still think it will be resolved by the court, because a Dem senator has vowed to take the matter to court if Cruz wins the nomination. Trump has always been very selective of the people with whom he surrounds himself. It has helped him build an empire, and makes him successful. That’s a trait I admire.
Neither of Rubio’s parents were born in America. Where does this leave him?
He was born in the US.
And both parents were not citizens and only here for the asncvhor baby status. Away with anchor babies. More welfare rollers!!!!
Rubio was born before all of the controversy of “anchor babies” came up. Also, his parents were permanent residents of the U.S. at the time of his birth–they were NOT illegal aliens.
BUT, had they acquired US citizenship, that is the question. If they had, then he is natural born, if not, then he is simply a US citizen.
It leaves him not qualified for the office of POTUS.
If Cruz is not allowed to be the President “which is BULLS**T” then nothing Mr. Obummer has none is not legal as his father was a rdical non-American just like his son.
Sometimes the voters are dumber than nail heads! That is the conclusion I have come to after watching recent elections. Signing off.
Robert Gean – Not sure why you were told your son couldn’t be President. Both parents were U.S. Citizens correct and he was born on a U.S. Military Base which is my understanding is “American” soil – the American flag flies over it.
John McCain was born in the Canal Zone in Panama, and at the time was totally under American control and both parents were American citizens. The U.S. flag flew over the Canal Zone. Pretty sure this was also considered “American” soil.
The canal zone was never US territory and McCain was not born in the zone, he was born in Colon Panama as there was no OBGYN at the base hospital.
In 2008, during a minor controversy over whether Canal Zone–born John McCain, born in the Zone in 1936, was legally eligible for the presidency, the US Senate resolved that McCain was a “natural born Citizen” of the United States.
A Senate Resolution is not binding on any legal issue.
If Cruz is not allowed to be the President “which is BULLS**T” then nothing Mr. Obummer has none is legal as his father was a radical non-American just like his son.
At the end of the Spanish American War, didn’t Cuba become a US Territory (or possibly a US Possession) and remain so until Castro’s takeover? I think Cruze’s father was born before the takeover (?). Would this not make his father a natural born US citizen?
Cruz’s father was a Canadian citizen, not Cuban, and no, Cuba was not a US possession (except for maybe Gitmo).
No !
In todays America if you get a good shyster and a hollow headed judge, the statue of Liberty was made in China.
I think it makes Cruz invalid to be the President, not that I don’t think he cares for this Country but we should follow the rules. I know if this does go court they will investigate it thoroughly unlike they way they handled Obama’s legitimacy. It Cruz is legit than that means all of the children of illegal Mexican’s should be considered Mexican citizen’s not US citizens.
IS CRUZ A “NATURAL BORN” CITIZEN?
Anticipating the Republican debates tonight, over the course of the last couple of weeks, The Donald has obsessed over the issue of Cruz’ naturalization status, citing repeatedly his Canadian birth to an American mother and a Cuban father. In my book, Epistle for the Common Man: The American Dream Revisited http://www.amazon.com/dp/B018R5MAX4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_udp_awd_niFxwb44RAZE8 and
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/mobile/w/epistle-for-the-common-man-james-r-currier/1123044022?ean=2940157785963#
I address the “naturalization” issue in Chapter 10 in connection with “Birth Babies”, noting a number of legislative actions from 1790 to the Civil Rights Acts of the 1960’s and beyond into the 21st century, I have taken the liberty to reproduce the defining paragraph of the Naturalization Law of March 26, 1790 from
Wikipedia below:
The original United States Naturalization Law of March 26, 1790 (1 Stat. 103) provided the first rules to be followed by the United States in the granting of national citizenship. This law limited naturalization to immigrants who were free white persons of good character. It thus excluded American Indians, indentured servants, slaves, free blacks, and Asians. It also provided for CITIZENSHIP FOR THE CHILDREN OF U.S. CITIZENS BORN ABROAD, but specified that the right of citizenship did “not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States.” It specifies that such children “shall be considered as NATURAL BORN CITIZENS,” THE ONLY US STATUTE EVER TO USE THE TERM.
In connection with the U.S. Constitution, Section 1, Article 2, Clause 5 states:
No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States.
Trump claims that his concern is not “self-interested” – he is only responding to a “interrogatory” from the Washington Post – the subsequent debate being “responsive” and not “deliberative”, other that to suggest Cruz have the matter settled through a SCOTUS Summary or Declaratory Judgment. Nice try, but it is settled opinion of legal scholarship, that “presidential eligibility may be determined to be a non-justiciable question, decided only by Congress”.
To the extent that The Donald persists on the matter as an issue that may impair Cruz’s standing, I believe it is an issue where Trump is “over his head” and that public discussion of the matter at the debate tonight will expose the issue for what it is – a “thinly” disguised attempt to damage the Cruz candidacy to an electorate with a short “attention span” or deference to that candidate with the loudest voice. On the other hand, Cruz is a constitutional scholar, practitioner in the highest courts of this land, and a seasoned and accomplished debater – Trump doesn’t have a chance on this issue and will play the fool if he persists.
But let’s assume that The Donald has a point – accepting that no SCOTUS ruling has been made, and therefore, the issue of “natural birth” represents a credible challenge to Cruz’ eligibility. Notwithstanding, the Naturalization Act of 1790 has addressed the matter without challenge for a reason – petitioners to date (including the elections of 2008 and 2012) do not have “locus standi” or “standing”, which judgment is not just an obscure “legal technicality” the 2016 election cycle will replicate. As well, the Constitution addresses the matter passively excluding anyone except a “natural born” citizen for the office of President, but offers further qualification by stating the candidate must have attained the age of thirty-five, and HAVE BEEN FOURTEEN YEARS A RESIDENT WITHIN THE UNITED STATES. Seems that “natural born” clearly does not mean a physical birth within the boundaries of the United States and therefore, the accepted standard legislated in the Naturalization Act of 1790 applies without any judicial action to the contrary. Petitioners would clearly lack “standing” because the law is NOT UNCONSTITUTIONAL. As Cruz has so casually explained, such a challenge is a matter of “settled law” and all election chatter on the matter is frivolous and distracting – nothing more and nothing less.
We should not have to suffer fools, particularly when this election cycle is the most seminal, generational, existential election in the history of this country. Stay focused people on the issues – not bellicose chatter.
For the more important issue of “birthright citizenship”, it seems that a SCOTUS ruling on the efficacy of such a claim is not predicated on the Constitutionality of the 14th Amendment (which is a predetermined conclusion), but that provision in the amendment that ignores the intent of the authors with respect to the eligibility of children born to illegal immigrants in the US. Why isn’t more attention paid to an issue that does have “standing” – where is the ACLU when it comes to truly protecting our Constitution instead of a discredited ideology?
My $0.02 worth on the matter.
You know Scotus would never veto this it would make hius LEGACY non applicable
“Article Two, Section 1 of the United States Constitution sets forth the eligibility requirements for serving as President of the United States:
No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.[1]”
The controversy arising from conspiracy theories over Barack Obama’s citizenship and eligibility for the presidency prompted a number of Republican state and federal legislators to propose legislation aimed at requiring future presidential candidates to release copies of their birth certificates. The Hawaii State legislature went in the opposite direction, to limit the lengths that proponents can go in pursuit of this issue, as the pursuits have drained resources from the state.[2]
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1 Federal initiatives
1.1 Electoral College
1.2 Birth certificate
1.3 Hawaii statehood
2 State initiatives
2.1 Alabama
2.2 Arizona
2.3 Colorado
2.4 Connecticut
2.5 Georgia
2.6 Hawaii
2.7 Indiana
2.8 Iowa
2.9 Kansas
2.10 Louisiana
2.11 Maine
2.12 Michigan
2.13 Missouri
2.13.1 Constitutional amendment
2.13.2 Legislation
2.13.3 Other
2.14 Montana
2.15 Nebraska
2.16 New Hampshire
2.17 Oklahoma
2.18 Pennsylvania
2.19 Tennessee
2.20 Texas
3 See also
4 References
What amount of resources does it take to produce a single Birth Certificate???? What absolute B.S.
Trump is correct about Cruz. It is that Cruz don’t understand how America works. He CAN”T be President he was NOT BORN on American soil. End of story. Why don’t Cruz get it????
You can be born on “foreign soil” and still qualify. See the John McCain case.
What don’t you get?
Well, in 1971, five Justices on the Supreme Court settled the question of the citizenship right of a person born abroad to an American mother.
It’s a matter of public record that in Rogers v. Bellei, (401 U.S. 815), the Supreme Court affirmed congressional authority to grant citizenship at birth to a person born abroad to an American citizen parent.As the Supreme Court made clear, there are only two types of American citizenship —- citizens at birth, such as Sen. Cruz, and those who become citizens through the naturalization process, such as did Sen. Cruz’s father in 2005 and Mrs. Trump in 2006.
U.S. citizenship at birth under 8 U.S.C. § 1401, which defines those persons who:
“shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth.’ Paragraph (7) of 301 (a) includes in that definition a person born abroad ‘of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States’ who has met specified conditions of residence in this country.”
These are the exact circumstances of Ted Cruz. His mother was a natural born citizen,his father was a resident alien and met all residency requirements as called for.
Sen. Cruz is qualified to become president of the United States under U.S. Constitution Article II, Section 1, Clause IV. It’s settled by the ruling of the SCOTUS in 1971. I hope that is sufficient for the Trump Tribe people. If not, then try getting it on the court docket.
He’s just as close as Obama is to meeting the requirements and no one stopped him from ruining I mean running the country.
Cruz with his statement concerning New York and New Yorkers should make people realize Cruz is not loyal to any State of America. Cruz is Canadian by birth and his loyalty will lie with the country he was born in. No matter how he spins it there is always going to be the question and so he needs to have his citizen verified in the legal system. Any ways not voting for him either way.
The Supreme court has the obligation to render a decision on this issue NOW! We don’t need it to be an issue at election time.
Barack Obama is a classic example of falling between the cracks. He is a Muslim that should have never been permitted to become president. I still say that he was born in Kenya. He has ruined for decent dedicated Black American hopefuls like Allan West, Colin Powell, Condolesa Rice, Ben Carson or Juan Williams
This would never be an issue had not Cruz get so close to Trump in the poles. Donald Trump is nothing but a cry baby himself.If he can’t win he has to take people with him. Has Trump ever shown what his polices are? NO!!! All he has done so far is sling mud at his other republicans. Donald Trump is A Rino. If he does not get the nomination he will flip and show his true colors.I know he has all America in an uproar with every thing he has been saying.He can talk the talk. But can he walk the walk?
Talk about Rhinos did you look in the mirror?
David- i agree with you and when he don’t win, true Americans are going to show their true colors too. LOL…Ksiree just did. Prime example!
You should have remained in school!
You must be for Hillary, check out Mr. Trumps back ground, for you twice, we have read every one of his books, not missed a debate, so if you slap a lion expect a stronger slap back.
David Reid, What have you been smoking? Trump tells all. You only have to listen and learn his goals and methodologies.
If you try really hard, your head WILL come out of the sand.
Donald Trump raising the issue is politically motivated. But, the fact remains that depending on interpretation of the term Ted Cruz is not eligible to serve as president. Neither Trump nor Cruz had any control over the senator’s birthplace. I’m sure the Democrats have also noticed the country of Cruz’s birth.
Ted Cruz would probably be my first choice if it wasn’t for the birth issue. I discovered his Canadian birth several years ago when I was reading about him.
The birther movement will welcome a large number of liberals to its ranks if Ted Cruz wins. What will be interesting is to see how many people thought President Obama might not be eligibility requirements because of the possibility he wasn’t born on American soil will have no problem supporting Sen. Cruz even though there is no doubt that he was not born in America. In both cases, the mother was an American citizen but not the father.
Why are so many people jumping down Trump’s throat about this? I listened last night on MSNBC to a Democratic member of The House who once clerked for Scalia who said he planned on filing suit to challenge Cruz’s eligibility. If I am not mistaken, it was others who raised the question and all Trump did was recommend Cruz get a clarification through a declaratory judgment. The very last thing Cruz or The Republican Party needs is a question hanging over his candidacy in much the same way Ms. Clinton does relative to her email scandal and corruption with her Global slush fund…….just saying-
Trump will always attempt to destroy anyone who gets close to him. By the primaries he will have destroyed the republican field, but also demonstrated that he is a thoroughly disgusting human being. The only republican who might defeat Hillary at that point will be Carly Fiorina
You are a true womanizer. Just because she is female does not make her correct. She is too hardcore and for herself. Bering CEO does not qualify her either. She never did it all on her own. She always had others money to push around. About time we get something who knows where to cut the foreign strings. Your byd Brahma sasid our asuto mfhds are doing better. Crsp!! Most auto sales are foreign imports
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Give me a break, you need to do more real research in your spare time which seems a lot.
Cruz’ eligibility has been in question for several months. Above, Robert Gean says his son had to Naturalized, leaving him un-electable for U.S. President. He is a veteran for Gods sake. I took it as his Mother was American too. If that’s the case, how is Cruz eligible with a Cuban father, being born on Canadian soil ? I agree if he’s not, then Obama isn’t, and everything he’s done is illegal. Cruz knew or had a clue about this or he wouldn’t have dropped his dual citizenship for being born on Canadian soil. I smell a stink boiling in the Courts, with a immediate calendar date.
If the Constitution says you should be a natural born citizen to run for President,then Cruz is not qualified,it’s very clear,so he should not force his self or you are electing a Democrat again.
The birther issue for Cruz, Rubio and Obama needs to be addressed once and for all. There is too much confusion on this issue! Rubio is essentially an anchor baby, Obama has a fake birth certificate and a stolen social security number. This is the perfect opportunity to investigate this in connection with legitimate concerns regarding Cruz and Rubio who both, along with Obama, had FORIEGN FATHERS THAT WERE NOT AMERICAN CITIZENS AT THE TIME OF THEIR BIRTHS! Now here is my problem with Cruz (a snake in my opinion). He claims that he only knew he was a Canadian citizen when he saw a story about himself in a newspaper about 2 years ago!!! This claim is coming from a man who is an Ivy League college graduate, a lawyer, a clerk on the Supreme Court and a Senator! Come on, does anyone seriously believe that? Upon discovering that (duh) if you were born in Canada, you are a de facto Canadian citizen, he then rushed to renounce his Canadian citizenship, coincidentally just around the time he was thinking of running for President. Well, Ted, what took you so long? Don’ tell me you didn’t know you held dual citizenship!
You are wrong, here is the link to the ACRU article with the details of the 1971 SCOTUS ruling. That ruling was very specific and Cruz background matches it exactly. Citizen mother, U.S. resident alien father.
http://www.theacru.org/this-should-settle-cruz-eligibility-for-the-trump-tribe/
Sen. Cruz is qualified to become president of the United States under U.S. Constitution Article II, Section 1, Clause IV.
Here is my take on Ted Cruz citizenship. I do also agree with the Constitution about the natural born citizenship clause but Ted being born in Canada and has been a citizen of this Country since child hood has also laid out his credentials as a bonafide honest legal person of the United states he is far ahead of the man that was illegally vetted in which is now our President we the citizens of the United States know nothing about or really know where he even came from. Obama has committed treason more than once he took his oath of office on the Quran Bible, has taken upon his self to being as near to a dictator as possible without really being one, he has broken his oath of office many times and his ethics are highly questionable. If we ever hope to put this Country back on the right track again we should once more turn a blind eye to the clause of being a natural born citizen and elect Ted Cruz as our next president of the United States Of America I feel that he is the most qualified of all of the candidates that are now running for President.
And yet the Snake from Kenya who slithered into our white house 7 years ago is almost certainly a fraud but almost no one questioned it for fear of being called a racist.This is sickening!
Why is our Reps. so scared, are they being paid off also, ?? OB and his family should have to pay back every cent that has been paid to them with our taxes, Including jet fuel, free housing, wasteful spending, vacations, hell let’s throw in toilet paper for their so called perfect butts.
Thank you! Obama is most certainly a snake and a fraud. And the sad thing about all of this is almost no one questioned it for fear of being called racist! Sickening indeed!
why every time someone wants to make a comment about black people, they fear of being called a racist? Maybe because you are!!! can you really make a constructive comment about black people without thinking of their skin color? I doubt it!
Obama set the way for anything goes and we allow it. If a few million of us marched on Washington we might of had him thrown out of office but White America is to worried about there political correctness. So I believe you get what you deserve. The more rights you give up the more they take away. We keep putting theses crocks in office that want to eat us alive. A house divided against its self can not stand. We are killing our selves from the inside out.
MOST of you miss out on what the REAL definition of citizenship is–in day’s of the Founding Fathers and for thousands of years–CITIZENSHIP of the FATHER was CITIZENSHIP OF THE CHILD–hence Obama IS a Kenyan, Bobby Jindal an Indian, Cruz and Rubio are CUBANS. I personally believe the Founding Fathers would’ve specifically REQUIRED the child’s FATHER to have been an American citizen when his child was BORN to achieve “natural born” citizenship. HOWEVER, what too many people don’t comprehend–some 8-10 PRESIDENTS HAVE SERVED THAT DID NOT MEET “NATURAL BORN”, IF THE FATHER MUST BE AN AMERICAN OR IF BOTH PARENTS MUST BE AMERICANS! Washington, Jefferson, Adams, Monroe, J.Quincy Adams and Jackson were ALL British Subjects when BORN in the U.S. Jackson was born to IMMIGRANT parents two years after immigrating here. James Buchanan and Chester Arthur were BOTH born to Irish IMMIGRANT FATHERS, Woodrow Wilson was born to a second generation IRISH father & Canadian mother of Scotish descent while Herbert Hoover was born to a German-Swiss FATHER in Iowa and mother who was a Canadian of Irish descent. NONE of these presidents would meet the “natural born” status IF the Father must be an American OR IF BOTH PARENTS MUST BE AMERICANS. For that reason–the U.S, Supreme Court would REFUSE to hear ANY case on Cruz’s eligibility UNLESS Congress passes some form of declaratory legislation to define “NATURAL BORN” and once signed into law, that legislation is then taken to Federal Courts and on to Supreme Court appeal. “PRECEDENT” of candidates serving as “president” without having a FATHER or BOTH parents being American citizens has existed for over 100 years–for that reason, the Court would NOT consider the case without Congressional action first.
Since the full battery of alphabet soup organizations in DC allowed an illegal alien with a counterfeit birth certificate and a false social security number to be elected not once but twice the question of illegibility is moot and will remain so until charges are levied against obama and ALL his cohorts for treason. All of the alphabet soup organizations in DC are in collusion to cover up these facts as part of the biggest illegal operation to destroy not only the Constitution but to bring down the greatest country in history.
I do not know the legalities of this citizenship issue, however if Mr. Cruz does get the nomination, you can bet that
Hilary or Bernie will milk the hell out of this and create so much confusion that one of them will win the White-house…
I happen to be a Trump supporter so it doesn’t bother me right now because I think he will win. However if Mr. Cruz
should win, it really could be a gigantic problem! We just can’t allow Hillary to be our next president… We just Can’t!!!
I think it is in the GOP’s and Mr. Cruz’s best interest to get this straightened out Now and Legally for once and for all…
Mr. Trump is right. If he should win and decide to choose Mr. Cruz as his running mate for the Vice Presidency, Mr.
Cruz has to be squeaky clean regarding this issue… For what it’s worth, I think a trump/Cruz ticket would be a very
strong and powerful ticket.
WE agree, our first choice was Cruz, then Trump jumped in, we’ve read all of Trumps books, We wish that Trump would be President and Cruz V.P. we have been saying this for months on end. We wish only the Best for Cruz, but, Trump is right, Cruz needs to go into the running with a complete clean record background, No since following O.B.’s layout. I don’t think anyone would want to be hated as much as O,B. is, we can gripe since we never voted for him and did not believe all of his lies. As far as O.B. getting elected, there must be one hell of a couple of hackers out there somewhere. We want a Power House in the White House, not a joking, hand rubbing, nervous soft spoken coward.
One reason many people keep dual citizenship is because if they get drafted by one country they can abandon the one that is drafting them.
It just could be that Trump is considering Cruz as a running mate and doesn’t want any problems with citizenship with regard to Democrats.
You are right !! Cruz should of known better than put his-self in this position, We believe that in his own way Mr. Trump was really looking out for Cruz. Cruz should of never snapped back at Mr. Trump, he set the trap and got his tail caught in it. Remember Mitt, of all things he put down Big Bird and PBS, OB ran away with that, we never believed that OB won fairly, we feel the computers were hacked and phony ID’s were entered, not one of my friends or business partners voted for OB. We all feel that 2 TERMS had to of been fixed and bought off. Oh by the way, OB will never take our guns away from us, we are NRA all the way and certified.
I DO NOT KNOW BIG ?
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America needs a leader that can fix the mess our Great Country is in. The leader must put our country and our Lord first. 61% of the american people can’t afford a $500 bill to fix their car. The great middle class is hurting.Americans need to buy products made in America. MR. Trump can make our country great. He will be a strong leader, a man that will make America great and strong.
You are right, so what if people do not like his blunt way of speaking, we think it is refreshing, if you bark loud enough people will listen. We do not need a soft spoken joker, back in the White House, we need our morals restored. We have worked over 50 years paying into SS and OB has made sure in the last 3 years in his term we have not gotten a raise, although the price of living has gone up sky high. With this happening to us, just what is in store for our kids, we have NEVER been on Welfare or Food Stamps, worked hard our whole lives, now it looks like our kids are going to have to work even harder just to make ends meet.
i agree! I’m a black man that supports trump. I didn’t vote for Obama and i surely wouldn’t going to vote for him because he is black. I’m just ready for this country to be back where it was before. No matter if you are black or white. We are Americans!
OB bought votes by promising everyone a check, we got ours, although we did not vote for him for $134.00, OB has done nothing for our friends in the south after Katrina they still live in tents or make shift housing, OB has done nothing for Sandi, playing on the Americans for leaving his tour and Christie gave him a big hug, Our friends up north still are in a state of shock loosing their homes. But OB can take a ton of vacations, Micheal has face and butt lifts, wasteful spending in the White House, destroying our heritage. Don’t we all feel we have been lied to enough, taken for a ride, we need to get someone in the White House that does not want our hard earned money, protect our gun rights, morals, rebuild America, create jobs, all and all we need Work Fare not Well Fare, !!
Loud mouth Cruz should look in his passport if he got one!!
That will tell him he is CANADIAN
Very Good Comments, Now When Cruz became a senator he was a Canadian Citizen. That mad him not eligible to be a Senator. He lied that he was a US citizen which is a Felony.
I am glad that the Cruz story came up he had duel citizen ship with Canada until 15 months ago why did he wait all these years. What was the importance to him to keep his citizen ship for years in CANADA ?
Trump is right. Why are people against him? He is the only one who has the nerve to say out loud the illegal issues going on in the USA. We need someone who will straighten out what has been happening here.
Ted Cruz would be a great president but it will never happen because he was born in Canada. I could never support him for that reason. We need to support a conservative who is eligible to become president and who can beat Hillary and that is Donald Trump. Unfortunately supporting Ted Cruz is in my opinion a waste of time, energy, and money and all conservatives need to UNITE and support a conservative who can be elected and I therefore recommend that all conservatives support Donald Trump because he is the only republican who can win.
That’s right, when a good person comes along to help America get back to where it should be, by all means start disqualifying him. Guess it didn’t matter that that thing that’s been occupying the Spite House and ruining our country is a muslim foreigner and pathological liar. THAT the country can get behind. Makes me embarrassed to be an American. This country was the greatest country in history and it’s turned into something our founding fathers would be ashamed of and warned us about. Why don’t we just go ahead and put the murdering Clintons back in there and call it a day. Game over.
Another thing to keep in mind about CRUZ is that the recent vote by congress to go after the federal reserve for misappropriated funds, was voted down. This would have made it legal for the government to find out what they are spending tax dollars on. So, for now, we will have no idea where our money went. Why are they hiding this? Illegal funding of certain departments within the government using tax dollars, or putting money in peoples pockets that are not eligable to receive it??? Anyway, a man running for PRESIDENT, CRUZ, DID NOT vote. He was only 1 of 3 congressman that didn’t vote. Do you want this idiot to be president? Because he was too LAZY to vote for something that the American people have the right to know?. That’s not someone I want for pres or vice pres.
Probably the reason why Cruz did not vote was because he had received a $500,000 loan from Goldman Sachs, (his wife works there) for his run for the Senate. Now, THAT’S a bit of divided loyalty, isn’t it?
You know why don’t the people that are going to run for president have proof that they are an American citizen with there birth certificate and find out if both parents were born in the United States if not then they can not run for president and if they are caught in a lie or there birth certificate has been altered in any way then they will be denied any kind of government running’s and a very hefty fine and as far as B.O. goes with him being not a full American citizen , then every thing he has done should be illegal and should be fixed by the government and not paid for it and B.O. should be made to pay every dime that he was paid back , that’s what S S A does if you get paid to much money you have to pay that back so what’s the difference , but any way if your not a full true blue American don’t run for president of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA THIS IS OUR COUNTRY AND NOT YOURS IF YOUR NOT A TRUE BLUE AMERICAN AND THEN DONT SAY YOU ARE IF YOU ARE NOT , WHY LIE ABOUT IT YOU WILL GET CAUGHT SOONER OR LATER. NO CRUZ IS NOT THIS BEST CHOICE , TRUMP IS THE BEST AND HE WILL GET THIS COUNTRY BACK IN SHAPE LIKE ISENHOWER HAD IT HE WAS ONE OF THE BEST PRESIDENT’S THIS COUNTRY EVER HAD . YAW BETTER THINK ABOUT IT TRUMP IS THE BEST
People are mad at Trump for this. THEY SHOULD NOT BE. Why? Because over a year ago this subject was brought up by Democrats and on the blogs and they stated that they would sue if Cruz became president. Fast forward to today and we see that Allen Grayson has stated he will sue Cruz. All Trump wants to have happen is this: Get it settled…take care of ANY OPPOSITION. I do believe that Trump want Cruz as his VP…but..and this is the BUT…RICK PERRY STILL HAS NOT HAD THE CHARGE DROPPED ON NOT GIVING THE DRUNK OVER $1 MILLION DOLLARS OF TAXPAYER MONIES. Tied up in court.
Puerto Rico is considered a colony of the U.S.. The people can vote for any candidate running for any office,except President or Vice-President of U.S..
WITH ALL THE COMMENTS BACK AND FORTH ABOUT CRUZ, IF HE DOSEN’T HAVE ANYTHING TO HIDE WHY DOSEN’T HE TAKE IT UPON HIMSELF TO GET THAT DECLAIRY JUDGEMENT AND PUT THIS THING TO REST. MAKES ME SUSPICIOUS WHEN HE WON’T DO SO.
I agree. The problem that Cruz has is that he may NOT receive the answer he wants so he prefers not to go there. But Trump is right–this issue needs to get settled NOW. A nightmare scenario has Cruz winning the nomination and then being challenged by Dems (some of whom have already said that they would try to get Cruz’ eligibility challenged). It would throw the whole general election campaign into turmoil for the Republicans and Hillary could be the next *shudder* *gulp* President.
Folks, the precedent has been set; if Obama was allowed to be elected president then Cruz is eligible also. The supreme court is all about precedents….
Legal precedents are what the SCOTUS is about. The court has NEVER ruled on this issue–there is no precedent. It does not matter what happened in real life–only what the Court has ruled in the past.
You’re right that SCOTUS is “all about precedent,” but if what they CITE as “precedent” is Unconstitutional ab initio, they have no right to rely on “precedent” to trump, circumvent, or invalidate any part of the Constitution – otherwise, THEIR RULINGS would be the Supreme Law of the Land, and the Constitution – to which ALL SCOTUS members swore their fealty – says that the Constitution is the Supreme Law, and NOT THEM OR their RULINGS.
So if they make a “ruling” that does not comport itself 100% to the Constitution that they swore oaths to, they are in as much violation of their oaths of offices as are perjurers, and should be IMMEDIATELY ARRESTED, then tried on felony perjury charges.
Some say that SCOTUS has the “right” to “interpret” the Constitution. I say, look at Article 3, which describes the powers of the Judicial Branch. Show me “interpret.” If it ain’t in there, they DO NOT HAVE THAT POWER. Period.
To cite Thomas Paine:
“All delegated power is trust. All ASSUMED power is usurpation.” The Constitution delegates certain NAMED powers, and no more, reserving all others to the States or the People(see Preamble to Bill of Rights, as well as 9th and 10th Amendments).
Anytime anyone in government takes powers that are NOT delegated, they are usurpers and betrayers, oathbreaking criminal felony perjurers…and should be (IMO)immediately arrested, tried, and upon conviction sentenced to not more than 10 years in prison, fined an amount roughly equal to the entirety of their salaries and benefit packages while employed on the public dime and betraying the public trust, then forbidden ANY office of public trust in ANY government position ANYwhere within any State or Federal holding for the remainder of their lives, for not understanding (or giving a crap about understanding) the gravity of their oaths of office.
i reiterate that the First Congress, Second Session defined “natural born” status as being born of TWO US Citizens(with exceptions for those born prior to the Revolution), and that since THEY are the lawMAKING body, SCOTUS canNOT rule that the meaning of “natural born” has changed, for SCOTUS is NOT a lawMAKING body. Only Congress can change the meaning, and until they do, it remains the LAW.
So if it’s true that Trump has a Scottish mother, then under that selfsame LAW he wishes to hold Cruz to, he’s also ineligible. He cannot have it both ways.
There are 3 citizenship statuses available in this country:
1. Natural born(REQUIREMENT: 2 parents who are Citizens)
2. Naturalized(REQUIREMENT: pass test, background check, and swear oath of fealty)
3. 14th Amendment(REQUIREMENT: be born in any State of the Union or on any land entirely under Federal control; citizenship of parents irrelevant).
D’ohbama is under the latter category; as a citizen, he and Michelle’s CHILDREN are eligible for the office of the presidency, but HE IS NOT.
i have yet to see any LAW(remember, courts cannot MAKE law without being a part of the Legislative Branch) which states that the phrase “natural born’s” meaning as shown above has changed. Show me otherwise, and i’ll change my mind.
I think that we as country have to take a look at this situation and to Decision we as country have make about citizenship because it is very important to country I think that we as country get carry away with this problem if look at this problem we as country filled immigrants different kind people all around world but we equal guilty with this problem.
The problem as I see it is that our Constitution has been systematically attacked. Is this by design? We must defend our Constitution. We need to be “strict constructionists” and under that rubric, Cruz does not qualify. We need to make sure that we don’t have “fluid interpretations” of the Constitution. That is the way to get it discarded eventually. No good at all.
TOM HERE I AM for Trump, and Cruz’s is a nice guy but born in Canada ….. Obama is what the earlier poster said he is, Rubio is an anchor baby, Both of these men could be Vice president, how ever we would then face the problem again–if the president were to die or leave office for many different reasons.
Therefore in this case the third in line would be president! We must take Our country back. I am a WWII veteran and I am 92 years OLD AND I STILL AM IN GOOD HEALTH AND I HAVE THE HISTORY to believe what I have Posted Thanks Every one. Lets make America Great again and respect the constitution!
I’m a firm believer, if you give someone enough rope, they will find a way to hang themselves. Obama will be a good example.
I have a bunch of old ropes in my barn that I would be glad to donate.
TRUMP is exactly right! He has never been wrong because he knows our constitution and rule of law better than any other candidate; especially better than cruz who has trashed it several times. He knew he was ineligible when he ran for the senate and again for the presidency. In his own words: “Neither Obama nor I are eligible for the Oval Office” and “If Obama can do it so can it.” He’s a liar and a traitor. He’s a rino and a globalist. He’s neither “christian” nor a “conservative.”
I read a lot of comments on hear. It’s a shame how some of us can turn this debate into racism! Wow! Anyway. I’m a black man that’s supporting trump! I was a democrat growing up because my parents were democrat. Now that I’m older, and starting to understand politicians a little. Now I’m a republican. I didn’t vote for Obama because i didn’t trust he can do what he said he can do. i wouldn’t going to vote for him because he was black either. I like trump because i really think that he can helps us get back to what America really stands for. We need people to respect us again. we need Jobs back in America! we need everyone to be united! How can you say God bless America and some of us is not putting God first. America is not putting God first! What we need to do is pray that God will cover who ever in office and guide he or she to make the right choices for our country!
Also, please stop putting all black people in the same bucket! We all are not the same. The ones know who I’m talking too.. Thank you and God bless you all and our country!
Thanks, Johnny. There are many black Christians who do not favor B.O. Glad you are for Donald Trump. He will not only make the country great again, he will make the Republican Party great again. The Republican Party is the party of Lincoln and the party of Teddy Roosevelt–two of the greatest Presidents this country has ever had. Teddy Roosevelt was the greatest anti-corruption President we ever had. Donald Trump reminds me a bit of Teddy Roosevelt–both pretty bombastic, but a heart for this country and the American people.
The only reason Trump brought it up is he lacks substance
You are Wrong, Mr. Trump really does like Mr. Cruz, Mr. Trump in his own way is protecting Cruz, Cruz needs to go in the running with clean hands, Mr. Trump even offered his own high dollar attorneys to help Cruz.
It has never been proven without a doubt, that Obama was born in Hawaii.
You must be American born or you’re
Father Has to be American citizen
In order to run for president of in USA
not you’re mother
B. Hussein Obama, our Marxist Muslim president, was born in Mombasa, Kenya.
Do you remember when O.B. was running the first time, to told the Media his middle name was Steven, odd, ?? Never heard about that again.
Johnny, Believe there are very few racists but the label itself causes a lot of whites to proclaim anger. For instance, Black Lives Matter set me off to know end. Let them go into Chicago after a black on black shooting and demonstrate about that. These members were only created to set blacks against white. If it wasn’t for Sharptons and Jacksons everything would work out. People of all colors are now accepted into many communities and mostly the suburban areas. All you need is a few agitators like Farakon, Sharpton, Jackson, The New Black Panthers, and now Black Lives Matter. A police man that shoots a black person during a crime well all hell breaks loose, but when a black kills another black nothing is said. That makes me angry and I may spout until I cool off. Disavow agitators and most people just get along. At least most people. Some bad but most and I mean most are good if given a chance.
Natural born means being born without the help of Planned Parenthood.
Mr. Cruz: It would not hurt to get it verified, just in case!!!!!!!
Question; How many of you have bothered to look up the Federal statutes that interpret and apply the eligibility criteria in the Constitution? MUCH more specificity… and revealing of the speciousness of many comments so far…
Here is another thing to consider and it came out of BLACK/S LAW DICTIONARY: The deciding factor in O’bama’s case, is that the father was not an American and/or hadn’t even worked in the united States for any time. The birth ctf was obviously forged because of the timing of a lot of the phrasing, when the hospital that he was born in was shown on the birth certificate as a different name than what it was in the year of his birth. Black’s law dictionary gives a definition in the 5th edition that shows in reality, it doesn’t mean anything if the mother is American, but if the father is not an American and the kid is born in some foreign land or even actually born in America in the united States he still is not a native American. What I gather is that it makes no difference if the mother is American or not, but it makes a great deal of difference if the father is NOT an American, which is Obama’s case. In Cruz’ case he lacks a great deal of the requisites, according to BLACK’S dictionary, NEITHER OF HIS PARENTS WERE AMERICAN AT THE TIME OF HIS BIRTH, AND HE WAS BORN IN CANADA, A FOREIGN LAND, SO HE ACTUALLY HAS 2 STRIKES AGAINST HIM. In O’bama’s case his birth ctf. was forged all the way, wrong name on the hospital, no American father, and one other thing just for kicks, his S.S. # was issued out of Connecticut, where he hadn’t been before his birth, and in addition the number belonged to someone else, and the issuance of that number from Connecticut needs to have its origin date checked to see if the number and the one before and after his number were issued anytime close to his birthdate, right or wrong. If it is a false claim on his part that he was issued that number from Connecticut at his birthdate, then Title 18 section 2071 comes into play and it is a crime for him to claim a number which is not rightfully his, which is a misleading statement by him on the papers he has signed stating that it was HIS number which is definitely false and according to title 18 section 2071, he should be automatically fired and not be able to hold any position in the United States Government ever again and if the misleading info given by Hilary Clinton to the American Public and the victims mothers and fathers in the Ben Gazi incident, sheshould also be removed from the election candidacy because of that factor alone, as the law states, and that has been published in the federal register. all of this info is backed up by the circumstances in these cases. One more thing, there were many Senators and congressman that studied Obamas records including NANCY PELOSI, THAT SAID EVERYTHING WAS OK FOR MR OBAMA BEFORE HE WAS CHOSEN AS THE CANDIDATE BY THE DEMOCRATS AND THAT WOULD MEAN THAT WHOEVER WAS A PARTY TO THE VETTING OF OBAMA/S INFO AND APPLICATIONS SHOULD FALL UNDER TITLE 18 SECTION 2071 AND LET THE SUPREME COURT PLACE THE BLAME WHERE IT BELONGS ON ALL OF THEM.
From Supreme Court precedent Minor v. Happersett:
“At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country, of parents who were its citizens, became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.”
From: http://www.examiner.com/article/justiagate-natural-born-supreme-court-citations-disappear:
“On October 20, 2011, New Jersey attorney Leo Donofrio accused online legal research behemoth Justia.com of surgically redacting important information from their publication of 25 U.S. Supreme Court opinions which cite Minor v. Happersett, an 1874 decision which arguably contains language that appears to disqualify anyone from presidential eligibility who wasn’t born in the country to parents who were citizens. According to the decision in Happersett:
At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. (Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162, 167 [1874])
Justia is a Google Mini-powered website which has singled itself out as one of the most comprehensive and easy-to-search legal sites on the internet. Other legal resources such as Lexis can cost as much as $5,000 a month for a subscription, and it’s impossible to hyperlink to cases which include copyrighted headnotes and analysis. This is why powerful law firms such as Perkins Coie (where former Obama White House Counsel Bob Bauer practices law) have cited Justia’s pages.
The Wayback Machine, run by InternetArchive.Org, is the means by which the changes made at Justia were documented over time. Among the first responses from Justia regarding this controversy was to block its Supreme Court Server from being viewed by the Wayback Machine.
Click the following link for an image documenting the pattern of changes made to one of those 25 cases, Luria v. U.S., 231 U.S. 9 (1913). Notice that the case name “Minor v. Happersett” has been removed, minimizing the case searchability.
The cover-up simply reeks. While Justia owner Tim Stanley told CNET that there were more cases which had also been “mangled,” there is no way to identify how much bogus law was published by Justia over the three-year period in question. Minor v. Happersett simply disappeared from cases which cited it, minimizing its footprint on the internet at a critical juncture in history — the election of 2008.”
Justia.Com was funded in part by a Soros Organization. Google Justiagate for the erasure of the Minor v. Happersett Supreme Court precedent from the legal website. Also lookup Tim Stanley, Carl Malamud, Stacy Stern
View Point from an 82 year old who has always believed that “if one does not know his history, one can never truly know where he is going. Our founding fathers gifted their progeny with the worlds most magnificent gift to future generation of these United states. These founders were much better educated than the most successful lawyer walking our streets today. Many were lawyers, a number were medical doctors. For those who look on our Constitution as out dated simply do not possess the intellect to comprehend a true work of genius in any generation of the past, present and future. Literally each word and phrase that appears within this document were debated up side down, inside out every which way till consensus was reached. THE ONLY WAY ONE SINGLE WORD, PHRASE, PARAGRAPH MAY BE CHANGED IS BY THE AMENDMENT PROCESS. Article II, Title I, Clause V ; “NO PERSON EXCEPT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN, OR A CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES, AT THE TIME OF THE ADOPTION OF THIS CONSTITUTION SHALL BE ELIGIBLE TO THE OFFICE OLF PRESIDENT; NEITHER SHALL ANY PERSON BE ELIGIBLE TO THAT OFFICE WHO SHALL NOT HAVE ATTAINED TO THE AGE OF THIRTY FIVE YEARS, AND BEEN FOURTEEN YEARS A RESIDENT WITHIN THE UNITED STATES. Any federal regulation, any congressional legislation that attempts to change any part of the Constitution cannot and most certainly should not become law. Article II in its entirety is still the law of the land. What history is teaching us is that “politics” have so polluted our electoral system and the advent of the false god of “political correctness” has caused both parties to “see no evil, hear no evil and speak no evil” when in truth both parties know that Barack H. Obama, Jr. is our nations second ineligible sitting in WE the Peoples White House. Chest A. Arthur and Obama’s fathers were citizens of foreign countries, thus ineligible. Our founders were a collection of advanced learned men of their times and most could hold their own even today; they were totally familiar with Vattels “Law of Nations” from which they deduced the meaning of “natural born citizen” to be the son of a mother and a father who were themselves US citizens. Most investigators of today give short shift to the role “Law of Nations” played, most prefer to refer to England’s common law. All history buffs know, our founders fought a war to split from England and their concepts of law.
Naturalizations Act that conflict with Article I cannot have legal standing until Article I is amended. Minor vs Happersett actually defines “natural born citizen as the son of two US citizens.” The 14th amendment was passed to grant citizenship to the children of freed slaves. No where in this amendment can be found the terms “natural born citizen?; only citizen or naturalized citizen can be found. History will some day teach that the major reason Barack H. Obama, Jr. was given a pass by every judicial entity asked to engage in a trial to determine his eligibility to stand as a candidate for president was “political correctness'”. Their out was to declare the plaintiff had no standing to sue. The nation and especially the liberal/socialists/democratic/progressives and the scary cats republicans refused to challenge Obama’s lack of eligibility. The good book teaches “as you sow, so shall you reap.” History now teaches, “you sowed an ineligible, now you reap the whirlwind of disunity”. Ted Cruz is a highly intelligent attorney of proven legal skills, however, he like Arthur and Obama is ineligible because his father is a foreign citizen. John Jay, our nations first Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, in his letter to George Washington in so many words declared “the Command in Chief must be protected from the possibility of foreign influence, ie “natural born citizen.” Obama policies and executive orders have brought much harm and much shame to our nations world wide standing. Our enemies could not have wished for a better ally to bring injury and shame to our nation, than Barack H. Obama, Jr. the ineligible. lee1233
Thank you Maurice. Love your posting.
Francis, boy u said a mouthful. Right on, could not have said it better. If only all the other idiots that can’t see what he (Obama) really is shame on them.
obama was not born in the USA Cruze has a right to run for President.
I am of the opinion that neither Ted Cruz nor Marco Rubio is eligible to run for the office of President of the United States. Ted, as many have said, did not have two American parents at his birth who were citizens of the U.S. Marco Rubio was four years old when his parents (both Cuban citizens living in the U.S.) requested to become U.S citizens. If the founding fathers were so thorough in their intent not to have any foreign influence in our government through the Presidency, then Marco Rubio does not qualify because, at his birth, he was born of two Cuban parents who were not American citizens. He was born in 1971 and his parents were naturalized in 1975. He is an American citizen (solely because somewhere in time our government declared anyone born in America was an American citizen. However, if this was based on the 14th amendment the intent there was to give slave children citizenship since they had recently been freed through Abraham Lincoln’s proclaimation) but I don’t feel Marco qualifies as a Natural Born Citizen with two citizen parents. Just being born in America does not automatically make one a Natural Born Citizen. As has been said, the father bestows citizenship on a child, and Marco’s father was a Cuban immigrant living in Florida who was not an American citizen at Marco’s birth. If we are going to follow the Constitution, some of our legal scholars should delve into the reason why that phrase, “must be a Natural Born Citizen of two citizen parents” was placed in the Constitution in the first place. We must look at the letter of the law and the intent of the law since our founding fathers were so concerned that a candidate should be a Natural Born Citizen. We should not confuse the “low information voters” in this country. ALL CANDIDATES SHOULD BE VETTED THOROUGHLY BEFORE THEY ARE ALLOWED TO BE RUNNING AROUND THE COUNTRY CAMPAIGNING! A good example to take note of: A foreign pregnant woman and her husband comes to America. While here, she gives birth to a son. America declares her son an American citizen. She goes back to her country. The child grows up and when he becomes 35, he says, “I am an American citizen, born in America, I’m going to America and run for president. Is he eligible? According to many people today they would say, “yes”, because he was born in America. How does that stack up with being a Natural Born Citizen? I believe the founding fathers would roll over in their graves to see how far our legislature has changed the intended meaning of this requirement to run for president.
I’m sure these men are good, honest, sincere men, but that is not a requirement either.
GeraldoRivera on THE OREILLY FACTOR TONIGHT SAID CRUZ IS NOT NBC, AND HE IS CORRECT! http://www.thepostemail.com/2016/01/13/the-final-authority-on-natural-born-citizen/ … & https://www.facebook.com/florence.stone.9/posts/10207355080867506 … & https://cdrkerchner.wordpress.com/2012/10/03/100-proof-rick-santorum-not-a-natural-born-citizen-father-naturalized-3-yrs-after-rick-was-born-foia-response-re-aldo-santorum/ …
“When the Founders inserted the words “natural born Citizen” in Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution, as a principal qualification for those who wished to serve as president of the United States, it was their intention that all those born with any taint of foreign allegiance should be barred from the presidency and the vice presidency. Hence, the term ‘natural born Citizen’.”
IN 1787 THE HEAD OF FIRST CONVENTION OF STATES, FRAMING THE CONSTITUTION, ADDED THE NATURAL BORN CITIZEN FOR OFFICE OF POTUS, AND TODATE THERE HAS BEEN NO AMENDMENT TO CHANGE THAT, ONLY TO MAKE IT A REQUIREMENT FOR THE VICE PRESIDENT AS WELL; NOT CITIZEN AT BIRTH, NOT NATURAL BORN CITIZEN, NOT NATIVE BORN CITIZEN, NOT NATURALIZED CITIZEN BUT NATURAL BORN CITIZEN, WITH NO FOREIGN TIES TO CANADA, CUBA, KENYA, INDONESIA OR ANY OTHER FOREIGN COUNTRY!
On 25 July 1787, John Jay wrote a letter to George Washington, recommending that the new Constitution should require that the President be a “natural born citizen”. The stated purpose of this requirement for eligibility was to exclude “foreigners” from exercising Presidential powers:
“Permit me to hint whether it would not be wise and seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of foreigners into the administration of our national government; and to declare expressly that the commander in chief of the American army shall not be given to, nor devolve on any but a natural born citizen.”
Trumps Mother became a is citizen 3 years before Donald was born IN AMERICA. His father was American. So, Donald was born in America to American citizens.
Cruz on the other hand, was born in Canada. And only his mother was a us citizen. His father was Cuban.
Mccains parents were BOTH American and they were in Panama, because his father was stationed there.
Obama mother was American. Who knows about father ? But, for him to get “around” this issue that cruz is having, he stated he was born in Hawaii. When in reality, he was more than likely born in Kenya. Even his own grandma said he was born in Kenya. The long form BC he came out with states his father was African American. When I reality, when Barry was born, African American was not even a term used yet. And the hospital on the long form had not even been built. So…Barry’s BC is more than likely a fake.
Cruz had dual citizenship for years and just have up his Canadian citizenship a few months ago. Being an attorney, you would think he would have cleared up this issue years ago. I believe , since Obama got away with it- cruz feels like it’s not an issue. When It is.
Trump !!!!!!
Ted Cruz is a Man without a Country..!
Ted Cruz remained a legal citizen of Canada from birth in Canada, until he renounced his Canadian citizenship in May of 2014 .
It is an act of fraud to seek any political office in the USA while concealing the fact that you are a citizen of a foreign country.
There remains no authentic evidence or ,”ANY U.S. DOCUMENT OF LEGAL CITIZENSHIP OF ANY TYPE to support the claims that Ted Cruz is a citizen of the United States.”
… There is NONE.!!
(dual citizens have dual papers from both countries)
A Natural Born Citizen has NO dual Citizenship.!
Whether Ted was born Canadian only, or a “dual citizen” of both countries, he is ineligible for the Oval Office in direct conflict with the known purpose and intent of the NBC clause.
Ted knows this .! Ted is a Man without a Country..!
Everything in this article is “fact” backed by “authenticated evidence” and official documentation.
Opinions are B.S. – and, as Ted was a legal citizen of Canada in 2012, without ever disclosing this fact to Texas officials or voters at the time, he ran for a accepted a seat in the US Senate via election fraud.
It is an act of fraud to seek any political office in the USA while concealing the fact that you are a citizen of a foreign country.
// Thx JB.
http://northamericanlawcenter.org/ted-cruz-is-in-the-u-s-senate-illegally/#.VpnDpCorLWL
Birth Abroad to One Citizen and One Alien Parent in Wedlock
A child born abroad to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under Section 301(g) of the INA provided the U.S. citizen parent was physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for the time period required by the law applicable at the time of the child’s birth. (For birth on or after November 14, 1986, a period of five years physical presence, two after the age of fourteen, is required. For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen, is required for physical presence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child.) The U.S. citizen parent must be the genetic or the gestational parent and the legal parent of the child under local law at the time and place of the child’s birth to transmit U.S. citizenship.
Cruz was born 12/22/1970 and his mother met the 10 year and 5 years after the age of 14 requirement.
That just provides citizenship not the stricter “natural born citizen” status.
Everyone who knows anything at all about the constitution, knows this is a fact….
The NBC clause exists for the sole purpose of preventing anyone born of foreign, dual or divided national allegiance from ever entering the Oval Office. ..The commander in chief could have no fractionalized loyalty.
The commander in chief must be loyal to the United States, first and only.
…According to Article II, Section I, Clause 5 of the U. S. Constitution, a candidate for the Presidency must be a “natural born citizen,”…
that is, a second generation American, a U.S. citizen, whose parents were also U.S. citizens at the time of the candidate’s birth.
Wether Ted Cruz is a U.S. CITIZEN or not is not the question..,
But to be eligible for President or VP.
you have to be born to “two US PARENTS” and ON “US SOIL”!.. …Blood & Soil.
The NBC clause exists for the sole purpose of preventing anyone born of foreign, dual or divided national allegiance from ever entering the Oval Office.
Whether Ted was born Canadian only, or a “dual citizen” of both countries, he is ineligible for the Oval Office in direct conflict with the known purpose and intent of the NBC clause.
Ted knows this //
Supreme Court Cases that Cite “Natural Born Citizen” as One Born on U.S. Soil to Citizen Parents –
Venus, 12 U.S. 8 Cranch 253 253 (1814)
Shanks v DuPont, 28 U.S. 3 Pet. 242 242 (1830)
Dred Scott v Sandford, 60 U.S. 393 (1857)
Minor v Happersett, 88 U.S. 162 (1875)
United States v Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898)
Perkins v. Elg, 307 U.S. 325 (1939)
Article II Facts . http://www.art2superpac.com/issues.html
Too bad Hillary’s friend who now says it matters that Cruz’s father is not a citizen didn’t think of that when Obama was running with a British father and only a mother that was a US Citizen. Would have saved us a lot of heart ache and pain.
Easiest way to determine eligibility is they must me second generation with two US citizen parents. Thus, Marco Rubio it also not eligible as his parents were not citizens when he was born. He is just a common every day citizen, if you believe the 14th Amendment gives citizenship by just being born here (which it doesn’t).
Cruz and obama differ for their citizenship. obama is indeed a Natural-born US Citizen. His REAL father is Frank Marshall Davis, an American communist living in Hawaii. His FAKE father was Barack obama Sr., from Kenya. If you look at the pictures of Davis, obama Sr and obama himself, you can easily see who the biological father is. That is why obama was never bothered by all the citizenship stuff early in his term; he knew the real truth.
The real reason that obama did not reveal his true father to the world is because Frank Davis was a hardcore cimmunist, and that wouldn’t look good on one’s resume for President.
As for Cruz, he does not meet the requirement for President. Trump is 100% correct.
Funny how the Constitution is so important to the Democrats now that obama , born in Kenya and fathered by a muslim has ignored the Constitution for 7 years and plans to continue doing so and nothing has or will be done about it.
Cruz is certainly eligible, and all that baloney about Obama not having had a legitimate presidency is total nonsense.
Hundreds of journalists, lawyers and others have witnessed President Obama’s original Hawaiian birth certificate and he was born there to an America mother. Check out
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_citizenship_conspiracy_theories
And as regards this article, Trump is just being Trump … stirring the mud in the water is just his style. He is certainly amusing, but whether he would make a good president is another matter entirely.
The more I see of Trump, the more I like him.
Why is everyone so concerned about who is a “natural-born” citizen and who is not? When Ronald Reagan was attacked and (at least temporarily) unable to fulfill his duties as President, George H. W. Bush declared a state of emergency and accepted the duties of the Presidency. The state of emergency continues today since the order was never rescinded. All Presidents since that time have been appointed, not elected, and there are no rules as to their citizenship. B. Obama would appear to be a citizen of Indonesia, and if he chooses to appoint Mr. Cruz as his successor, no-one who understands the situation will object.
This issue is really simpler than most everyone wants to make it out to be. But let’s provide a reminder of the important part of the story.
The Constitution says that Congress shall have the power to write laws about naturalization, which results from laws of citizenship. There is no Constitutional specification or definition of what is and is not a citizen; that was left to Congress to define.
In 1971 (?), Congress defined who is and who is not a citizen, and set the terms for these definitions. This makes the definitions under the scope of the Constitution, even though they are not specifically enumerated directly in the document. So this would be the proper source material for who is and who is not a citizen, and what type they are classified as.
Kevin-
Article 1, Section 8 lays out the delegated (entrusted) powers Congress may lawfully exercise. The closest any portion thereof comes to is the following:
“To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization,”(” and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States”)
Show me “says who is or isn’t a Citizen.” If it’s not in there, it’s NOT a delegated power, and any power exercised beyond the scope of the defined and limited powers outlined in Article 1, Section 8 is a usurpation, an arrogation(taking) of powers NOT delegated, ergo a criminal offense(felony perjury, i.e. lying under oath) for which prosecutions should result.
If you disagree, feel free to cite the Constitutional section, article, paragraph or line where Congress may define citizenship OR Citizenship other than the “naturalization” process.
The doctrine of “implied powers” that SCOTUS usually relies on is also unmitigated crap, as any honest understanding of the Preamble to the Bill of Rights and the 9th and 10th Amendments would make clear to even the dullest of intellects.
Maybe the birther thing brought against Cruz is a good thing if it causes a bigger investigation of Obama’s birth and citizenship. Did he ever apply for USA citizenship after he was an Indonesian citizen? The right man to support is Dr. Ben Carson. He is brilliant, has commonsense, character and a calm personality that helps him to think clearly. He is a very much admired man by all races. Get to know him better!
Congress in 2008 reported that a natural born person is one parent has to be an American citizen living in other country other than American is a natural born citizen
at birth
Got a link? If not, that’s self-serving bullshit on a stick. The LAW was written by the First Congress, Second session, and the words “natural born” were defined as “Born of TWO (count ’em, two) US Citizens,” with exceptions granted for those born prior to the Revolution. Their opinion was based on the then semi-current “Law of Nations” by Vattel, who ALSO defined EVERY country’s natural born Citizens as being born of TWO(count ’em, two) Citizens.
If “Congress” issued a statement indicating what you say, first, i believe that the emphasis was on the CON; second, i’d like to see who said it and when, and third, i’d like to see when and where the original law was modified and the words “natural born” re-defined. Otherwise, the utterer of this nonsense was simply doing his best to excuse the D’ohbama abomination and short-circuit any legitimate attempt to hold the Current Occupant to account for his oathbreaking criminality.
It does appear that Trump maybe somewhat worried about being beat out by a better Republican, a cooler head, someone who knows more about this Nation then making money and doing it in sometimes “strange” ways. But well to keep things “KOOL”, let’s say…….Trump, Cruz or Marco, are ALL better then what’s on the other side, and that, goes without question!