Harvard University law professor Larry Lessig has warned that the plot to have the Electoral College block the results of the 2016 presidential election is close to success — and it has President-elect Donald Trump’s team worried enough, they’ve started to fight back.
“20 Republican Electoral College voters are considering flipping to vote against Donald Trump, more than half the number of anti-Trump votes needed to stall the president-elect from being sworn into office,” Lessig told POLITICO Tuesday.
The “Dump Trump” plot is being coordinated by a group of liberal electoral voters that call themselves the Hamilton Electors — and the group claims they’re successfully winning defectors across the board.
“The goal of the Hamilton Electors is to deny Donald Trump at least 37 electoral votes. In order to be officially appointed America’s next president when the Electoral College convened on Dec. 19, he’ll require at least 270 electoral votes; currently 306 are committed to him,” according to Salon.
Lessig is involved with the group, and is offering any “faithless electors” who will refuse to vote for Trump free legal counsel and support.
The threat has grown so serious, Trump is responding to the scheme — and Republican lawmakers are confident their efforts will ultimately prove victorious.
He’s fighting back with help from the Republican National Committee, who are “overseeing an expansive whip operation designed to lock down Donald Trump’s Electoral College majority and ensure that the 306 Republican electors cast their votes for the president-elect,” POLITICO reported.
“The state Republican parties in the states that went for Trump are heavily invested in this process,” one unnamed RNC source said. “It’s a matter of personal pride for a state party chairman and a state party to ensure that all the electors that their people elected vote, and vote in the manner in which they’re supposed to.”
A rare occurrence, “faithless electors” have only ever defected en masse once in American history — and it was racist Democrats behind the plot.
In 1836, Vice President-elect Richard M. Johnson was denied an electoral majority by 23 Democrat electors, who objected to him being in a common law marriage with a black woman. Johnson’s election was then moved to the Senate, who confirmed him as Vice President under President Martin Van Buren.
— The Horn editorial team
You never know in this country these days. The strange is reality in modern day America.
My pitchfork is sharpened and my torch is ready to go! I hope the establishment tries to do something this stupid…
…cause it won’t be Trump draining the swamp as we will do it even before he takes office!
I agree!
Well, you won’t be alone. I am so upset over this crap that is now going on. Does anyone think that Russia never got involved in our elections before?? Of course they have, they would do anything get to get everybody up set. Look what’s happening, they are succeeding aren’t they. Look, I think that O’Bama is the worse President I have ever seen in my lifetime and I am over 85! I along with others, have put up with all the terrible things that he has allowed under him being President!! What the democrats are doing now is terrible. Hang in there, and keep praying for our country and for President Elect TRUMP!!! God BLess
But the CIA did try to hack into Ohio elections…they found traces back to them….the CIA may be the hacker…..I believe that the emails were from an insider….it may have been the young Democrat that was shot in the back while he was walking….can’t remember his name….but there have been discussions that he may have been the one unleashing the DNC emails and Killary probably had him murdered for it. Podesta’s emails were of his own doing….he got a phishing scam (I get two to three daily telling me they are suspending my account) telling him that his account had been suspended and that he needed to change his password….he called an ITT buddy and the guy told him to change his password….but this moron, instead of going directly to his gmail account and checking it and changing it there….he clicked on the phishing scam rectangle and changed it there….so the imbecilic moron actually hacked himself. Go figure….maybe this is why we elected Donald Trump. All of this is just another way to try to STEAL the election….lock and load people, we may have to revolt.
It was our own intel depts that hacked the emails and turned the info over to wikileaks! They said they would not allow her to become pres, that they were tired of this establishment misusing their intel and destroying this nation.
Seth Rich.
lock N load no going backwards only forward only death to tyranny. Backing Trump 100%.
The CIA marches to Obama’s orders and he is looking for any way possible to delay or defeat Trump’s inauguration. Clinton fund possible connection here? Makes you wonder.
Ready and willing here and until the swamp is drained we will have nothing but problems.
Seth Rich
I don’t know where you get your information. Probably The Horn or some other very dubious site. That is pure hogwash.
yes get ready if…..
Rich Seth…???
There WILL be trouble if the “king baby” electors choose to thwart the rules of their state (the rules demand they vote for the candidate that won them on a first ballot) and go off the trail. They will be breaking the law and have no excuse for doing so. I have never heard a judge allow such a thing. They may sympathize but “the law is the law” and “ignorance of the law is no excuse!” (I can’t tell you how many times I have heard those phrases uttered regardless of the minimal status of the law broached.) If they are offering free legal help, there are DEEP pockets involved! (you have to wonder where all that “get money out of politics” fervor went when it didn’t help them!) However, I am fully fed up with liberal hand wringing and this spoiled child attitude. Do the job your electors assigned you to do. Or is the idea of America being a nation of laws repugnant to you? We cried out for change, got the change we wanted, and still watch as our candidates’ popularity grows. You are responsible for what ever occurs from this point on. You bear FULL responsibility for any results, and you alone. I will NOT stand helplessly by and watch my country sink because some butthurt over age children have decided to take their ball and go home because they don’t like the rules or the outcome. You took oaths to follow the will of your electors, WHERE EVER you hail from. All consequences, national and personal, are on your shoulders.
His name was Seth Rich and yes you are right.These protesters call themselves Hamilton Electors. The only thing they know about Hamilton is from the play which is so out of whack. They complain about Russia hacking into our system which there is no proof, but they don’t mind Hillary selling 20% of our uranium deposits to Russia to be used against us for 209 million dollars.There impression of Trump is so misguided thanks to the liberal lying MSM.
You got that right.
AMEN, I AM 88 AND AGREE WITH EVERY WORD. IT WILL BRING ON A C IVIL AR. AMERICA IS CRAZY AND PEOPLE ARE STUPID THAT THINK AMERICA IS GREAT, NOT ANYMORE. I BELIEVE TRUMP WILL BE GREAT OR DIE TRYING
You and I remember a great country not a dime in our pockets and standing at a bus stop with a nickel to get home from work. Tuff but always had something to eat and a place warm and comfortable and no one paid our bills.
Absolutely!!! I’m sad though over the 60 million of American voters who voted to KEEP America NOT great and maintain the poor status quo under Obama. The voters ARE stupid — but I was ENCOURAGED that so many ALSO had the common sense to vote for change under the Republicans.
Keith, minister and college president
88 i totally agree thanx for the Greatest Generation
WELL SAID!!!
I am 76 years old and I agree with you totally and I believe God placed Trump in office and when God places someone – people that are fighting him and trying to stop him from going into office are walking on dangerous grounds. We don’t mess with God’s plans!
Donald Trump played by the rules. Are you folks mad because he ran the campaign to win the Electoral votes?
I am sure if the popular vote was the key a different campaign would have been run.
Change the law and better luck next time.
Yes Sir
Way to go Stan!!!! I wholy agree with you. I am not a racist, but with our “mosulim” president, race has been his first priority, to divide this country and make EVERYTHING race issues. The democrats are greedy, self serving thugs and leaches on this country.
The way to say that is the goofball in the oval office is A TRUE MUSLIM and wants to turn OUR COUNTRY into a pit.
God bless ya,Stan. Let’s keep prayin. Trust our eternal King and Heavenly Father. While earthly rulers rage and wage their war he watches and rules us.
Totally agree with you assessment Stan. We are heading down the toilet at an incredible rate. The progressive/liberal left will stop at nothing to remain in power.
Russia did not do anything here with this election. The dimwits are just trying to put that out there as an excuse of why they did not win. The info leaked to wikileaks come from our own intel agencies. They hacked the DMC emails and turned the info over to wikileaks! They do not want killery as pres either and they stated that they’ll make sure obummer leaves office without giving any pardons too and leave quietly! They have enough info on him to i imagine to cause him to leave office without causing trouble. I hope they do anyway. They said they would not allow killery to become pres! So far they were right!
I think the far left Democrats cannot stand the fact that Donald Trump is already making things happen to return our country to being great again!!! Their leadership of our country has been SO POOR, and they won’t stop at anything to DEFEAT Trump who has already LEGALLY WON!!!! I agree that there is only one thing we can do now, and that is PRAY, PRAY PRAY!!! I am 77 years old and have never participated in a protest of any kind, but if anything happens to Trump’s road to the White House, I might find myself involved in some kind of protest!!! Right at the time when Trump should be allowed to PEACEFULLY concentrate on his transition and cabinet positions, there are Democrats, who call themselves true Americans, doing everything they can to distract this process!!! May God stop those who are not supporting our President-Elect!!!
Carolyn Wilson
My sentiments exactly. I will protest with you. I have not had faith in a real president since JFK then it fell apart. Sick of the bs occurring because we now have BaaaBaaa crybabies calling themselves adults?
They probably helped bho win because they knew what a p***y he is. They knew they could walk all over him.
We – and enough U.S. states – agree that Obama has been a disaster for the country (and that Hillary’s promise to continue his policies is reason enough to refuse her the seat as President). That is from a national standpoint. From a Democrat standpoint, he has destroyed the party’s power, debased even the believablity of its absurd promises (ACA – “Affordable” care act?), handed the federal government – House, Senate, Presidency – over to the Republicans, given them the majority of the state houses…
– And I get this in my inbox:
“President Obama’s time in office is coming to a close (we’re sad too!), so we thought we’d send a special thank you for his incredible accomplishments over the last eight years.
From enacting landmark healthcare reform, to guiding us out of the worst recession since the Great Depression, Barack Obama has been a beacon of unity, progress, and hope for millions.
To say that we’re proud of our President would be an understatement, and we hope you’ll join us in saying: THANK YOU!”
“SIGN THE CARD: Say THANK YOU to President Obama for his INCREDIBLE service as President of the United States.
Thanks Obama”
Democratic Legislative Campaign Committee
225 Eye Street NW Suite 1250, Washington, DC 20005
– Note: I do not see any clue that this is a joke, a farce – but what else can it be?
WOW!!! The statements that the Democratic committee sent our, well if I were a farmer and those words could be turned into fertilizer, I’m sure it would be amazing how many acres I could fertilize!!! This man is the worse President, look what he has accomplished, the KILLING of thousands of unborn babies, and not saying anything about baby parts being sold, this is disgusting just as he is. Look what he has done for race relations, NOTHING but to create MORE diversity. He claims to be a Christian, REALLY??? Folks, we are so close to anarchy than I have ever seen, like somebody here said something like get ready to load your gun. Our country has the best system the world has ever seen. We have always known that our very own freedoms give the opportunity for others to create haveic among us and that is what is going on now!! Hang in there folks, and don’t forget, unless you heat it on Fox news, be careful of believing what they say! Please, keep praying for our country and President Elect TRUMP. God Bless
Who ever wrote that was not around during the great depression.
Ellen..
An out an out lie an joke
Hillary’s server and 30k plus emails opened the hacking door and now the DNC claims foul.
All of these problems happened on Obama’s watch, “GO TRUMP GO.”
Amen!
They are afraid that Trumps team will prove that Obama is not a citizen and should not have been allowed to be president or even run for it. This will permit Trump to undo all his work to destroy America and hopefully put him in jail along with Hillary, Bill and Lynch. How did he get money for college as a foreigner, have an illegal ss#, etc when he was suppose to be a lawyer and then he froze all his records?
Take notice: Donald Trump is highly intelligent and just look at the time/’money he is putting forth out of his own coffers to MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN. As for the WIMPS of “The Media Establishment,” they have been soundly rejected by the American Public as dummies and charlatans consumed by their own egos!!
And it is these crazies that consider themselves with all the braggado of loonies to be “leaders!” You see them everywhere, the “great unwashed, unshaven, uneducated” and PROUD OF IT; incredible FOOLS!! And they will be vanquished.
An Idiots Guide to Liberal Journalism. Remove half your brain and never question what your told or a guide to lying, giving half truths and misinformation.
No, I don’t believe the media lies but it is the Saul Alinsky playbook, which is create chaos, fear, increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty. Keep the pressure on. Never let up.” Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new. (Attack, attack, attack from all sides, never giving the reeling organization a chance to rest, regroup, recover and restrategize.). “If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.” Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog. The media tried so hard to make Hillary Clinton the underdog, but it didn’t ring truthful because they were already claiming victory weeks before the election, Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions. (This is cruel, but very effective. Direct, personalized criticism and ridicule works.) I told the book Rules for Radicals from the library in 2008 because I needed to confirm what I was seeing. If you haven’t read it, I advise you do because it’s going to get very nasty, pretty quickly and you need to know how to respond. It’s less than 200 pages and took me a few hours to read it twice and make some personal notes. The millennial clearly don’t have a clue of how he is, they’re just following others. But, you can beat them at their own game. This guy is a hero for Barack Obama, Michelle Obama, Bill and Hillary Clinton.
OK; how many times did Peter Jennings “Ben the facts”? Do you not consider his NEWS as being Lies?!
The Russians did not get involved in our election. Quit buying that liberal crap. The election of Trump is not going to be overturned.
Amen
Could you explain exactly how the Russians made you decide who to vote for? I don’t understand, the voting machines can’t be hacked, especially the ones with paper ballots. So tell me how they influenced the vote. I think the main stream news media is still at it’s evil best. Lying to the public again, making up crap. If anything was hacked it was Hillary’s E-mails.
Only the fuzzy thinking of “liberals”Can come up with that kind of crap.How they can justify their ignorance of the thinking of cabbage heads is a mystery known only by god who watches over fools.Every time these idiots open their mouth s*** rolls down their chin>>>>>>>>
If it hadn’t been the Russians, the libs would have claimed it was someone else. They simply MUST have some reason other than tens of millions of Americans ARE DISGUSTED, REVOLTED, AND SICKENED BY THEIR BEHAVIOR!
well said stan
I agree
I’m right with you. I’ll be 83 on the 19th. I knew I was going to bite for Trump on the day he announced he was running. My comment was we are finally getting someone to run that is stating how I feel. I don’t need Russia or anyone else telling me how to vote When the electoral vote procedure was set up it was so that the smaller States could have a voice in the election. Otherwise Calif could control the biggest part of the election because of the number of people in Los Angeles and SAN Francisco. The Constitution needs to be adhered to.
I think the electors realize MSM is behind flaming this subject, they know they saw the same results in “polls” – the MSM had Hillary winning all sewn up, now they want to fan this story of faithless electors. In reality, the electors know they have to represent their people- the ones who voted for whatever reason they voted. By not doing so, they would be throwing out America being a democracy that works.
Surprise: look it up on YouTube. It is no lie – the Russians are already in America in numerous units throughout Colorado, Smoky Mountains and a myriad of smaller towns. They are being joined by elite New World Order troops from countries throughout the world that are trained to do only one thing – KILL when ordered to do so. This is not a joke. Look up these facts and the Deep Underground Military Bases throughout America. NOT A JOKE – study then make your decision.
You are correct. The Russians and the UN are poised to put down any popular rebellion with armed troops. It could get very ugly fast, especially if they knock down the grid or deploy an EMP device.
I don’t think they want to do that. There will be probably a revolt from the conservatives in this country then.
The election was the first act of the revolt.
You’ve got that right!
Right on Janna.
this so called professor needs to lose his tender and lic. to teach anything. Harvard need’s to fire him ASAP. Hes doesn’t know what he is starting. Or just what will come his way.
A word to the wise. To get a Honorary Doctorate in Harvard or Yale all is needed it to self promote thy self. meaning that when you make good you Ivy league education you just send them a million cool ones and you get the publicity and the fame in one afternoon. Look at Conan O’Brien and some of the other business types in the US.
Doesn’t mean much for education anymore. “Pay for Play” or is it really “Pay for Parchment”.
Maybe the Saudis helped him, as they apparently helped Obama (by whatever name he was using at the time).
I’m with you
The so called Hamilton electoral ass holes might start dying now if Hillary Clinton was in charge.
we are all locked and loaded here
Yes sir
Ready on my end!
This is just another nutty professor another commie speaks.
CIVIL WAR TRUMPSTERS WILL PREVAIL, We will not put up with that dumb bitch ever
Exactly!
More important than her IQ is her character – EVIL!!!!!
i,m ready and willing to get my pitchfork ready ….if killery clinton gets in we,re all doomed
do not count on that the rumor is her name already is on the next suicide list of unnatural causes..
There are also some theories on what is wrong with her, and they all say she is seriously ill and probably won’t live very long.
Which begs the question, What was the plan of the Democrats, if they knew she wouldn’t last long as President? Would this have been the first case of a President’s spouse taking over (against the law, as so much of what the Democrats do is illegal)? Were they planning to have the first few people in line decline, so they could put another Muslim, Marxist into office to continue the Ruin of America?
You are not a patriot, but a despicable traitor, Crawl back under your rock, you miserable failure.
If those Democrat electors actually accomplish their goal of overturning the legal process of the Electoral College, blood will flow. Those turncoat electors are going to get physically injured. If they want to bring this on by making this a partisan issue, they’ll suffer the consequences. Us citizens have had enough of the Democrat Party Alinski style socialist revolution crap!
Amen!
Agree this is wrong Trump won now Obama’s trying to find any way he can to get Hillary .as President We voted and if Dems.don’t like it to bad they can’t even fix there own party? ?if they think We are going to put up with this sad story they better think twice.
agreed
rt. on mister ol” Jabba brother!
OUCH! But you’re right.
The U.S. should be purged of liberals since they offer no return on investment whatsoever !!!
It’s not “the establishment”. The establishment is all in with trump. This would be the ultimate anti-establishment move if it was real.
The dems were going to not pay taxes if Trump is inaugurated. If they steal this election, I say all Republicans should not pay taxes. The theft would be the ultimate taxation without representation. They voted and lost so they were represented. We voted and won;such theft means we are not represented. Stop all your tax payments on day one. You can pay up by April 15th of the next year if you get worried. Just save your money to make that payment if you decide to do so.
all addresses and names will be public knowledge and is public knowledge !
I feel the same way. They think they’re getting death threats now? Well, take Trump from us and they won’t be threats.
Yes, very correct. A whole.new meaning to drainung the Swamp will be a reality.
I’m with you, time for the people to become personally involved with draining the swamp.
Do they really want a civil war? Us Trump supporters have been pretty quiet & respectful up to now. But, that might change real soon.
Im past my prime but i will stand with the rev if it comes to that .let us pray it goes peacefully I stand with trump and American vote .
Mine is too. Although elderly I will help in whatever way I can. I hate socialists, fascists, communists and progressives, they destroy lives and countries. I have lived thru it.
Agree…if they want a true and bloody civil war just let them overturn the will of the people. Here to fore the violence contributed to Trump supporters has been a lie but if they overturn our will they will get what they are in no way equipped to deal with!!!
lets build some guillotines..
count me brother!!!!!!! every one who votes against what their state voted need to be tar and feathered and then quartered!!!!! sound like fun dosnt it 🙂
yes I agree, the election is over, the Bitch lost. If these people try to obstruct the voters, they should be Hung in the streets.
It goes to show how power hungry the dnc really is it’s not about the USA it’s about them
Drainage swamp hell, if they steal the election, then burn the swamp to the ground with all of them still in it!.
When you get near me with your pitchfork, you will be history.
Absolutely agree with you..I’m ready,Maurice
Bravo!
Im with you. If the 2 water bound States can’t see , it is this exact problem of these 2 thinking they control the other 48 States between them- and they want to disenfranchise them by talking down to the electoral voters that represent these people- I think we would see the “fly over states ” become very active and revolt. Seriously- does Hollywood hasbeen , botox dependent actors think that they have a right to suggest our emocracy should be thrown out the window because their crooked hag didnt have the muster to attract all other States?
Better to die on your feet then to live on your knees, as a slave. I have been in the military and I know which end of a gun the bullet comes up out of. That’s what the 2 amendment is for. If you want my but, come and get it. Just remember, I can hit what I aim at. I won’t go alone. It’s just too bad I most likely won’t be able to take some of the big shot’s with me. They will send some poor cop’s to die, for their power
This has got to stop. How selfish of Hillary and the Democrats. They had a Democrat in the White House for 8 years. Thank God that we survived 8 horrible years of Obama. How we the people have been set free. He won–get over–grow up. Walk a way Hillary while you still a little bit of dignity left. You are being a hypocrite! Practice what you preach! Karma!
The names of the electors are on Wilkipedia and the states they represent….this is a bunch of crap….the American people elected Trump and if you think for one minute that BLM or the paid Soros protestors are bad, you ain’t seen nothing yet …. if they try this …. they will regret it along with the Democommunist Podesta also.
No doubt that a lot of people will die on account of that damn Hillary bitch and her democrates, very touching indeed.
wandamurline, sorry, but the populous elected Hillary by popular vote. HOWEVER, we’re not a democracy, but rather a REPUBLIC with representative rule, which includes an Electoral College controlled by the STATES. So it was the States through their people who elected Trump as our next president.
Barring any revelations of gross electoral fraud or candidate disqualification, Trump SHOULD BE ELECTED as president in the EC.
The only fraud so far has been revelations of massive fraud by the Democrats in the Detroit area. The only thing that should’ve disqualified a candidate was treason by Hillary over the Arab Spring Initiative including Benghazi.
all addresses and names will be public knowledge and is public knowledge !
I agree I have never protested in my life–if they put that woman in the White House then I will get my sign ready!
IO used to think that Harvard produced intelligent and highly educated people but apparently they al;so produce their share of idiots and some of them even become professors and prevaricators!
Harvard people are whack jobs, just recently a nut from Cambridge and now is in a close by city called the mayor and had a Christmas tree taken down because it offended her. What’s next with these Nuts? Thy don’t like the color of the paint on city hall. They are no more than trouble makers.
it,s not about her its about christmas and the ….WE THE PEOPLE….who i believe works for …..WE THE PEOPLE get her the hell out of office
The names of the electors are on Wilkipedia and the states they represent
Roger, please keep in mind there’s a difference between intelligence and wisdom.
That moron is living proof that you should never sent a jackass to school, because no one likes a smart ass. College is just a trade school, with a matching band, and a football team. Professors who insist on teaching lunacy should be fired, and committed to the nut house.
Harvard, Princeton and Yale have been on a downward spiral to become “cesspools of socialism” for 50 years now. Some tiny colleges are offering a lot more education than the big three who offer nothing but a fancy reputation. Their reputations do nothing to enhance a students education.
The absence of Law in this Administration is outrageous and TRUMP needs to put many of them in this Administration including the top banana, in JAIL after re installing the Rule of Law and going through the process’s of investigation, indictment, trial and incarceration for the lawless actions they have participated in.
Baloney!! These clowns who don’t vote the way the voters of their states directed them to do, better leave the country for a long time!!!
Right on
That’s pretty much what the Electoral College was designed to do – prevent an unqualified individual from being chosen. No one is less qualified than Trump but I suspect their efforts will fail regardless.
YOU ORACLE GUY ARE A MAJOR A ..HOLE-SHAMEFUL-GET OUT OF THE COUNTRY-IF YOU
WERE COMMENTING ON HITLERY THIS WAY-YOU’D BE DEAD ALONG WITH THE OTHER 50
MYSTERIOUS ‘DEATHS’ CONNECTED TO ‘HER’-STARTING WITH VINCE FOSTER
I thought you were grounded in mommy’s basement. did your comfort pet run off and now your bored?
Grandma must have paid their electric bill.
Oracle Guy, I agree that the EC has a responsibility to stop a candidate elect who is obviously unqualified, but do you believe that Mr. Obama was qualified for the presidency?
Do you think a person who was one of the most corrupt politicians in recent times and who also committed treason like Sec. Clinton was qualified?
But please state your reasons you think Mr. Trump is less qualified than Sec. Clinton.
Thank you I voted for Trump and now I feel like a proud American again.
Are you really that stupid, an illegal, gay, transgender, poverty profiteer, losing your investment in Hildabeast, welfare rat, Soros Trolls . or all of the preceding? You can honestly criticize trump’s experience when you voted for the racist community organizer who never ran as much as a lemonade stand? You bathhouse dems are real scum questioning Trump or his cabinet choices when you would make Obama and Hildabeast president. Obama had no experience except. reading a teleprompter, Hildabeast was uncle bill’s first pimp.She was elected to the in US Senate from NY although she had no ties to NY ( accomplished nothing for NY) and after losing to the community organizer teleprompter. was yhen made secretary of state for resume purposes. ( again. accomplishments zero,other than bribery recipient . bengazhi, ” the reset with Russia” Syrian Genocide. Iran gets Nuclear weapons, etc ) Can you name one thing she accomplished As SOS ?
She had her own private server ( illegally )
an oracle you are not, a moron you are!
Read the requirements for the office of president. Read slowly so you comprehend. Then tell me which requirement Trump is missing.
Trump, as opposed to the current resident of the White House, has a legal original long-form Certificate of Live Birth which proves he is a natural-born citizen. Trump, as opposed to his opponent was not declared guilty of violating national security directives. The Director of the FBI testified before Congress that Secretary of State clinton sent and received classified material through her email server. The fact that he declined to indict does not mean she is innocent. clinton cannot legally hold a security clearance or public office under the statutes she clearly violated. Disqualified.
Next.
Mic drop
If those Democrat electors actually accomplish their goal of overturning the legal process of the Electoral College, blood will flow. Those turncoat electors are going to get physically injured. If they want to bring this on by making this a partisan issue, they’ll suffer the consequences. Us citizens have had enough of the Democrat Party Alinski style socialist revolution crap!
Agreed!!!
Doug, it’s perfectly LEGAL for the electors to change their votes in most States and to vote for someone else than who they were pledged to. It’s happened before. Also, please read Federalist Paper # 68. Otherwise there’d be no constitutional need for the Electoral College; the Secretaries of State of each State could just certify the results and that’d be it.
But I see no reason to not certify Trump as our next president. I believe the attempt to do so would is part of the Alinsky and Cloward-Pivien plans to destabilize the USA to bring about a USSA. We live in a Republic, not a Democracy and the States chose Mr. Trump. He may be somewhat controversial, I supported Dr. Carson, but he is qualified, far more so than the corrupt traitor Sec. Clinton.
So if need be, do you have a pitch fork you can lend me?
It may be “legal” but it isn’t right and any elector who votes against the wishes of his state’s voters deserves dire consequences. If they think those millennial snowflake pansies were complaining they haven’t seen anything if Trump is cheated out of the presidency by the left wing establishment and a bunch of turncoat dishonest electors. We conservatives have been getting a horrible deal for the last eight years and maybe more since Bush wasn’t even truly a conservative. He was merely a middle of the road neocon. It’s way past time to stop turning the other cheek and go on the offensive and battle these left wing crooks and liars head on.
I love Dr. Ben Carson he was my first choice. Then I voted for Trump. Glad that Trump gave him a political position.
We the people,we need to stand together are votes must be heard
WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO HARVARD? THE NUTS HAVE TAKEN OVER…PITY THE POOR KIDS!
Ya know, they signed a pledge to cast their votes according to the votes, the demands of the people !! They are to support the law of the land, which is the Constitution of the UNITED STATES of AMERICA ANS as such they will be breaking the law by not voting their pledge and can be fined $1,000 and get a year in jail if they don’t cast their votes according to the CONSTITUTION !!!!!
Charles, only 29 States have a penalty for not voting according to their statewide vote. Nor are all of the penalties as serious as you claim. But New Mexico does have the most serious penalty; $5000 and 18 months in jail. Yet despite over a 150 faithless Electors in US history, none have been prosecuted.
However, the Constitution DOES NOT dictate how an elector must vote, that’s left up to the States to decide according to the Constitution and supreme Court Ray v. Blair, 343 US 214 Decision. Also, Alexander Hamilton in Federalist Paper # 68 stated why the Electoral College was created, and it goes against your viewpoint.
So before you SCREAM CONSTITUTION, please review it, Federalist Paper # 68, and the SCOTUS Ray v. Blair, 343 US 214 Decision.
By the way, while I favored Dr. Carson, I strongly believe the Electoral College should elect Mr. Trump. Then after January 20th the draining of the swamp, DC (District of Corruption, Collusion, Confusion, Cowardice, or Cozenage, take your pick) can begin in earnest.
I read that only under penalty of losing delegate status could a delegate vote be switched!!
I would like to know why these people do when their name goes down in history of not keeping with the oath they take that their family will be ok with you name going down in history of lying and having no Honor I am sure you family believes in having no honor. And dont just think America has no options there is Article V which uses the 32 legislatures that are GOP to fire congress and to re hire people that believe in honesty, integrity and Honor means nothing to you but the Military will also be called out as the militia the Constitution lays out that they knew someone would try this power play and have put things in the constitution that America would use you are counting on the entire dems will go along with committing treason which when convicted carries up to the death penalty! Are you truly ready to go down in history as a traitor I am sure your family and everyone you know will except your treasonous act and do you really want a military coup that the GOP could call out. And all these career gop congress man that only care about keeping their great gig and McCain that just because he was held in the Hanoi Hilton and John Kerry’s treason with Jane Fonda with meeting with Ho Che Men while we were at war with them and they were allowed to do this. Why does America count on the Military to hold up their oath and Honor so all these career politicians that only want to stay in office if people actually think McCain head off the VA over watch committee that have let so many military men commit suicide and the others die in waiting and he should be keep up as an American hero the ones that were american hero’s that gave their lives in Benghazi and their families were lied to by Obama and Hillary but that’s OK that Hillary has lied under oath at least 12 times on tv I have seen should land her in jail and stripped of her clearance ,but the two big talkers Trey Gowdy, and Jason Chefietz all they hd to do was bring her up on charges to impeach but they lost their stones! So America quit listening to these career politicians that care about their jobs and the deals they have made like keeping all your sweet deals like Al Sharpton. Come on America we are on the brink off bankruptcy thanks to Obama and all the other people that should go to jail for their crimes and they are worried since Trump only will answer to the American People!
That’s for sure! They will stop at nothing to keep there jobs! Even try anything to keep out of office there own party member so he won’t impose term limits for them! Shame on them every one! Time for the silent majority to come to the front lines!
Thank you — you are spot on!
Persons whom are deemed electors in this instance have sworn an oath to correctly vote the vote that was offered to elect them. If they do not, then they have not kept their oath and will be subject to both state and personal criminal trial! By the state they can be imprisoned and or fined, by the voter they can be sued for millions of dollars from each voter. The only time they can legally vote their own idea is if the original vote does not reflect a clear majority on the FIRST ballot. Since we do know the number of electors for each state as they vote, we also know who they should be voting for! If the vote does not reflect that number, then we have a case of fraud! In that case it would likely become a subject for the Supreme Court to decide, and with the importance this vote I suggest that the guilty person or persons will be subject to imprisonment. Now should the vote be a tie, then and only then the electors may vote their feelings. Persons stating that they will change the vote they’ve been trusted with, should be removed from the college and the state select a person whom will fulfill his congressional duties.
I do believe the dumocratts and the few traitorous republican’s who back them might ought to think about it for a wile the run on gun and bullet sales just before the election wasn’t for no reason .the majority of the legal USA voters spoke .in my job I have been over most of the USA and I seen the county by county map of the election results and hildabeast won in heavily occupied immigrant counties only the rest went for TRUMP so watt this means is if you eliminate the immigrant’s and there illegal votes hildabeast probably wouldn’t have gotten 1 single county much less 5 states . and I do sense a lot of un rest in the public if the dumocratts manage to steal this election I belive the punk ass riots we witnessed in the cities wont be nothing to watt will rain down on the political establishment in the USA .of which ill do my part but I do have to say if it starts we don’t stop till every last jack 1 of them are hanged by the neck .
‘Sinister’ is the Latin word for ‘left, wrong’…
Seems like all the hacking and everything was A-ok until Hilda brooms, broom , crashed …..Now all of a sudden the FBI and CIA are looking onto hacking, Yea right ! The Electoral College better not over turn and piss off the people in this country.
It is called the left wing liberal democrat mentality that all good is evil, all evil is good… the truth is a lie, a lie is the truth…what is right is wrong, what is wrong is right.
I am not believing this story. Republicans are not so quick to betray a public trust. A liberal wouldn’t understand that,
There is a lot of money involve that they don’t want to lose. I still rather have faith in people to do the right thing and don’t forget, IN GOD WE TRUST.
PRINCIPLES BASED ON HUMAN JUDGEMENT ARE DYNAMIC I.E. CONTINUALLY CHANGING. They are also fluid meaning they flow like nature’s water without specific pattern nor direction. These real life principles based proudly on human judgement confuses the minds of people. A confused mind is Satan’s abode.
Do I not understand this right. Electorates are to vote according to their state’s majority voters choice??? Electorates were created to prevent highly populated states from having all the say so???
The Electors have to vote to the popular vote OF THEIR STATE — NOT the National popular vote. THAT maintains the power of the individual state as opposed to total mob rule. That is why Soros’ group petition for electors being able to vote for National p[opular vote is actually an attempt to END the Electoral system.
One way or the other campaigns would run differently from the Electoral vote and the popular vote, the Hag ran her campaign wrong and that is why she’s having a temper tantrum.
I heard she was so mad her depends were over flowing~
Can’t believe that these electors, think they have the right to decide TRUMP is unfit. Probably all demorats. Their state citizens decided by their vote ‘TRUMP IS WHO THEY WANTED. Electors want to decide who should be THEIR PRESIDENT.
Citizens that voted for TRUMP, in those states, should flood them with lawsuits and threats. The demorats just can’t believe they lost, even with all their cheating, even our so called president, told the ILLEGALS, TO VOTE, WITHOUT SUFFERING ANY CONSEQUENCES. TRUMP should advise those electors, that he will immediately, proceed to having all states that are BLUE, have their votes RECOUNTED.
Evidently they want to live under the “ONE WORLD ORDER”, which is what ob wants and killery will carry thru, as she is the one of those, who will finish what ob started. This election will decide “THE FUTURE OF OUR UNITED STATES OF AMERICA”.
The electors have no right changing their vote or voting their conscience and taking the vote away from the people. If they can’t vote the way they are required they need to be removed and replaced with someone who will vote the people’s choice.
if they elect to vote different than the people then they need to understand the people know who you are and the money you receive for being an a##hole you will never enjoy
That is one reason our forefathers established the electorate for balance and counterbalance.
I agree completely! If they can’t or won’t agree to vote as the state voted they have no business being an elector! This situation has probably not been an issue for so long that
the people in charge weren’t or aren’t prepared to deal with this as a problem! And, frankly…it stinks..to high heaven! If we had any laws and respect for said laws any more this would never be happening!
The corruption of our election system by the Left, Democrat Socialist, Anti American
groups and many others moonbeam snowflakes cannot be tolerated. The
Electors were picked, chosen or selected. They signed an oath to support the
will of the citizens who voted and should not violate that oath regardless of their
personal feelings. To do so is to spit in the eye of ever American who has fought
and died to keep out nation free from tyrants. I know each state has a different
set of rules for Electors sent to the Electoral College but the bottom line is the same.
You are selected to represent the voters of your state and failure to follow thru is
not an option. If you cannot do so then you should resign to keep your petty
feeling up your ass and let us restore our Nations honor.
They’re all corrupt as hell those bastards! That wouldn’t be doing all this electoral bullshit if Hillary Clinton won!! This country is so messed up and corrupted its pathetic! how are you corrupted pathetic fools out there Hillary Clinton would be a total disaster! Donald Trump is the man for the presidency!
James Maxwell-
i’m not all that familiar with the rules for Electoral College voters, but if they’ve sworn oaths and violate them, that would mean felony perjury charges for them; after all, if there are zero consequences for violation of an oath, such oaths are toothless, worthless, sops to deceive the masses with, aren’t they?
Oh, wait; according to my research, NO ONE HAS EVER been so much as ARRESTED for oath-breaking, much less prosecuted.
And Americans wonder why and how their “public servants” became their masters…
If they don’t vote properly they better watch their back.
Well, Mr. Constitutionalist, I imagine that the prosecution rate and penalty for breaking your oath will rise dramatically when Mr. Trump carries the title of President Trump and is leading our nation. One thing I am sure of, though, is that if these faithless electors are allowed to get away with their scheme, there will be fewer people to lead. I fear that there will be a mighty push back to this betrayal. I may be in my 60s and a disabled woman, but the oath that I took upon joining the U.S. Army never expires. I will give my all to do my duty in defense of my God, my country and her people. I still have skills that will have an impact on the outcome of this battle, should it come to that. I pray that it does not, but I am prepared for it. As a child of the one true God, I do not fear death.
I would ask that you pray to our Heavenly Father that there would be no need for this clash, but that His will be done. I will be praying for the same. I will continue praying for friend and foe, as was written in His word and as I’ve prayed for many months. We must always remember that GOD IS IN CHARGE!! Blessings to you, sir.
I like your comment James.
in the event rump loses some votes and doesn’t get 270, it goes to the house of reps and they will merely vote him in.
despite the FACT that the left has cheated, stupidly allowed their emails to be hacked by falling for ‘phishing’ schemes and trying to blamce the russians thru politically appointed cia hacks, and cheated like hell; at the voting booths for hillary.
THAT is why the left is so surprised. they thought they had cheated enough for hillary at the balloit box.
in one districts in MI, they showed 280 votes in a district that had only 50 registered voters.
According to Alex Jones and Larry Nichols – as well as several other commentators who’ve independently investigated – a splinter group or rogue element within the CIA is behind the latest “everyone important enough to be listened to on the internet is a Russian agent” or that “Russia hacked the DNC, Podesta, et al” nonsense being promulgated via CCMSM, who seem only too happy to – Quisling-like – go along with this “narrative,” this agenda. They’re sell-outs to the OWG, the NWO, the globalists who prefer to be above the law and rule the rest of us, extending their control-tendrils into every corner of every life – or as i heard it recently, “Progressives don’t care what people do, as long as it’s mandatory.”
What i heard Nichols say, specifically, is that these creeps intend to flip at least 37 delegates to The Liar, and do it quietly, behind the scenes, prior to the Dec. 19th count of the Electoral College. It’s a total psy-op, specifically timed so that the Liberty movement people will remain asleep or diverted into Christmas shopping, etc., until their counter-coup plot to get their lying puppet – The Liar – into office, which these PtB won’t “announce” until Jan 6th.
The globalists are losing. They don’t like it. Soros has literally doubled-down with his various orgs, doubling his contributions to his “change agents” in the US, which are nothing more than propagandists, agitators, & agents provocateur. They’re running scared, for they now know that Trump will not only fight them, but defeat them, to boot, along with the patriotic generals he has recommended appointments for w/in his administration.
The globalists are a lot of things – evil to the core – but not stupid. They KNOW that unless they get their agent in place, their doom is on the horizon. Now, it appears they wish to FORCE their vision upon us. Lemme guess: the “civil unrest” they’ve plotted for decades, and the FEMA camps…
I heard that Soros and his evil blood money have been banned from some countries. I wonder how WE THE PEOPLE along with President Trump can do this. Does any one know???
No, but I wish that SONOFABITCH could be captured and turned over to PUTIN who has a Co tract out on his ass !! Strip that bastard of all his ill begotten riches and be rid of his ass !!!!
As I have said before, considering how single minded the State of Israel has been in hunting down and prosecuting WWII War Criminals how Soros has escape is beyond belief, especially since he’s a turn coat Jew that worked with the Nazis to sent Jewish family to the camps
Although I’m not a huge fan of Putin, I would love to see him put that no good SOB Soros in a Russian gulag for life. You can bet it wouldn’t be like one of these country club prisons for corrupt politicians and multimillionaires like here in the U.S. too.
nene-
Does any one know???
i have a few ideas.
Convict him of something – anything – then order deportation. There are so many laws on the books today that EVERY American can be indicted RIGHT NOW for something…convicted, too! Indicting and convicting Soros will be a piece of cake, IF the political will is there to DO it.
Russia has already banned him and all his orgs from their country, and the US should follow suit. Soros is one of those evil NWO/OWG/globalist creeps, and HE – more than ANYONE ELSE – has engaged in attempting to manipulate, intimidate, and/or orchestrate how Americans vote via those orgs receiving his “donations,” like MoveOn, which funds BlackLivesMatter and similar thugs, as exposed by Project Veritas.
I am not sure the congress would vote him in the rinos in Washington are afraid Trump is going to mess up their cash cow
Amazing how often that happens to democrats! Hock e you don’t hear of republicans having “extra” votes! I. 2012, Obama had several democratic counties in Florida that he won by 140+%! Prokaryotes for the population!
The reason the democrats don’t want voter ID, Obama NEVER would. A state that had voter ID!
It makes me sick looking at the face of CROOKED Hillary Clinton! All the lies, fraud and corruptions using her power as Sec. of State to amass hundreds of millions of dollars, selling our country’s national security even to Russia, Saudi Arabia, and the other Arab countries for the sake of raising hundreds of millions of dollars with a quid-pro-quo interest to favor as soon as she becomes president. She has mountains of crimes and LIES against the American people. She seem to be so thick skinned to pursue more means to steal the election victory. She won’t stop with the help of President Obama who has also vested interest in making her win by hook or by crook!
She was so confident that with her than billions of dollar campaign funds from special interest groups, she will win the election. With various fraudulent means she and her campaign team and MSM did to make her win. But she lost. Now she could not handle the pain and shame of losing because they were about to launch victory fireworks hours before the final results came in. Then they cancelled it.
China is another major – and illegal – contributor to The Liar and the DNC, and are fully on-board with ANYTHING that will stop Trump. They stand to lose BILLIONS in trade deals alone, and don’t like it, much…not to mention Trump’s plan to rebuild the US military after nearly a decade of D’OweBama’s deliberate neglect, undermining, and underfunding. It wouldn’t surprise me in the LEAST if China declares war if Trump is inaugurated…and have probably already threatened this, likely attempting to use US debt to them as leverage, as well.
So at least temporarily, China is siding with the globalists in their Prison Planet attempts.
Pray for America because we might be heading for imperial president Trump if not stopped.
ipatko-
i will pray for AmeriCANS, but not America. “America” is a fictional construct, convenient shorthand, but technically inaccurate, as it is a fictional entity. Can you call America to be sworn? Seat it on the witness stand? Cross-examine it? No? Then it’s a fiction, an imaginary idea – so to pray for America could be compared to praying for Gondor(an imaginary land in JRR Tolkein’s “Lord of the Rings”).
But if you’re looking for an “Imperial president,” you need look no farther than the current Unconstitutional Occupant, who has used more Executive Orders to MAKE law – in violation of his position as chief EXECUTIVE of the EXECUTIVE Branch which is BARRED from making law – to implement more “law” illegally than ANY and EVERY previous president.
He should have been arrested, tried, and convicted for this ALONE, and many years ago, too.
IPATKO, I concur!,JW
If these malcontents succeed in overturning this election , I fear that it will provoke an armed insurrection, that will tear the fabric of our Republic irrevocably!
Bob says I have a real concern that if they are able to stop Trump Obama will try to stop Hillary so he will remain in power. I put nothing pass him. Reply
For a “professor” this fool is high on something. IF and I say “if” this BS succeeds with the electoral college, The HOUSE of Representative has the “last” and determining vote. (with a REPUBLICAN MAJORITY) Suck it up snowflakes “YOUR” candidate LOST….. “OURS” WON GET OVER IT. This is just another example of a LIBERAL COMMUNIST’S “wet dream”.
Most “professors” are leftist fools. My pet cat has more sense that any of them! If the Marxist/Demorat Party pulls this off the resulting anger will be the death knoll for that party. Even if today’s Americans are in large part a bunch of hand wringing wimps.
Ok Putin ally
Ok let’s say Putin did leak true emails that would bring to light about Clinton corruption how could that be judged wrong if the emails were true and helped to keep other countries safe from the Clinton rampage that has destabilized many countries I would say thank you Mr Putin you have done a great thing. Since the American people no longer control there government how sad that something such as a leaked truth would have to take place by another country to help save a world from an unbalanced U.S. thought pattern.
Some people just don’t know when to quit – the American people have spoken *Trump*, is our next President so stop whining
an live with it liberal Crybabies.
This is typical Demorats who didn’t get their way on election day so now we resort to changing all the rules to favor what ever it is that they want to do! On November 8th the people of this country spoke and the Demorats didn’t like what they heard so now they are ignoring the people and trying to have it their way. Yes, pitch forks, a torch or what ever it takes to put them back in their place. Don’t they know this kind of crap is only hurting them and helping the Republicans???
Anyone who supports Hillary and her Party is too stupid to realize they are signing the Demorat Party’s death warrant.
Apparently after 8 years of executive rule, lying, stealing and cheating they thought they were going to get away with it forever!
In this day & age if instant news & communications anything can be portrayed by any organized group to be “close to happening”. I believe the electors should vote the way there state voted but sometimes these poll questions aren’t as cut & dried as we would like. Social media can apply pressures to the electors we didn’t see 15 years ago. Addresses, phone numbers get released. Family can be threatened and on and on. It may be time to protect the electors from this harassment but I can truthfully say I don’t have a single idea how to achieve that protection.
Just goes to show you how corrupt the Democratic party is and the Clinton’s too.
I believe we the people need our country back and back to American principles!. I have never seen anything like this is 50 years and I feel the news media does not belong to the people any more. They are more “big city centered” and rural America has suffered terrible under the left power control! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH that is why we the people want washing shook up!
Rosey-
i got news for ya; the media has NEVER belonged to “the people.” It has belonged to the RICH people. Check out the date of the following citation:
“There is no such thing, at this date of the world’s history, in America as an independent press. You know it and I know it.
There is not one of you who dares to write your honest opinions, and if you did, you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid weekly for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for similar things, and any of you who would be so foolish as to write honest opinions would be out on the streets looking for another job. If I allowed my honest opinions to appear in one issue of my paper, before twenty-four hours my occupation would be gone.
The business of the journalists is:
to destroy the truth;
to lie outright;
to pervert;
to vilify;
to fawn at the feet of mammon, and
to sell his country and his race for his daily bread.
You know it and I know it and what folly is this toasting an independent press? We are the tools and vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping jacks, they pull the strings and we dance. Our talents, our possibilities and our lives are all the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes.”
— John Swinton(1829-1901) Former Head of Editorial Staff for the New York Times, was one of America’s best loved newspapermen. Called by his peers “The Dean of his Profession”, in 1880, at a banquet in his honor.
Source: Labor’s Untold Story, by Richard O. Boyer and Herbert M. Morais, published by United Electrical, Radio & Machine Workers of America, NY, 1955/1979
Yes, i agree that rural america has suffered greatly under this admin. I seen on PBS hourly news this morning with the dept of ag man talking saying that rural america is doing better than it has been since 2009! That they have done us great deeds! I wanted to reach into my tv and drag his a%# into reality. I live in central west Okla. and the oil field has driven our economy here for the last 30+ years and obummer destroyed that. The oil field is gone now and there is nio work and no one is spending money. I’m having to sell equipment to just try and pay the bills. And that is even hard with a bad economy!! I live in the country and am fixing to have to start living off the land like our great grand parents did just to stay alive. I refuse to ask for help from the gov! They did this to me and many others here. I have always fended for myself! PBS is a stupid broadcasting station allowing lies like that to be put on the air!!!
What really needs to be done is.Killary to Prison of TREASON against America….Enough of the lier screwing up America and the American people..the Evil witch that she is…she think that she can buy her way out of everything..News Flash she can’t.
Obama should have been charged with treason years ago! Actually he should have never been allowed to even run for POTUS!
Do these Idiots know what they are doing to our Country…The election is over Trump Won…SUCK IT UP CUPCAKES YOU LOST…
Agree with above comment, the dems are the ones that cheated and even with their cheating they still did not win. Let’s see, so far they have blamed 1) electoral college 2) miscounting and had to do a recount in some states 3) FBI Director 4) Huma 5) the Russians, The Russian’s did it the Russians did it!! what’s number 6 excuse going to be?
I know, I know, I know. (Hand waving from the back of room). The liberal democrats thought they were to check the box they were voting against.
Well it could have happened.
To you my liberal friends “SUCK IT UP BUTTERCUP”
The Electors should vote for who their voters selected.
Their opinion should not matter and neither should thier party.
If they cannot do their simple job, then they should be fired with prejudice (aka, they can never run for another elected office) and they can never hold a security clearance. They are treasonous and should be treated as such.
Another Socialist unamerican Professor brain washing our young!
THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE IS BOUND TO CARRY OUT THE VOTES IN THE STATES THAT THEY REPRESENT…ANYTHING OTHER THAN THAT WOULD BE AMERICAN CHAOS…I CAN SEE 1 IDIOT VOTING DIFFERENTLY, BUT A WHOLE BLOCK OF VOTES WOULD BE CATASTROPHIC FOR OUR COUNTRY AND WOULD SIGNAL THE BEGINNING OF THE END OF OUR DEMOCRACY…..WAKE UP AMERICA!
If you really want a total all out civil war just let the electoral college vote opposite from what the election came out.
The electorates were chosen because they were thought to be honest and straight forward, but if they prove their selves to be traitor’s to their fellow countrymen, that clearly voted for Trump, in enough numbers to over come the voter fraud of Hillary’s democrat’s…Then their legacy to the world will be of dishonesty & traitorous behavior…period.
I think the electors should be required to vote for the nominee that won the popular vote of their state if one of the nominees reaches the goal of 270 electoral votes after the general election. If due to a third party nominee winning several states, no nominee reaches 270, then the electors could change their vote to allow a nominee to reach 270.
ARE YOU NUTS JERRY-‘NO WAY DID HITLERY WIN THE POPULAR VOTE-HOW COULD THAT POSSIBLY BE-
COMMON SENSE-IF SHE WON THE POPULAR VOTE IN ALL THE STATES-SHE’D BE ELECTED-GET A GRIP
A HOLE
why is the intimidation and politicking of electoral college “electors” not considered voter intimidation actions
which should be consistent with voter protections offered on election day? How can DNC, liberals and others get away
with this?
I’m guessing that when the Democrats LOSE again, if this is even allowed to play out, that there will be arrest and charges filed against a lot of people. Laws and oaths must be taken seriously and prosecuted. Please pray!
POOR LOSERS ARE JUST “LOSERS”… “SNOWFLAKES”…”CHILDREN”… I BET THEY ALL GOT A TROPHY EVEN WHEN THEY FINISHED LAST!
They are not the Hamilton Electors. They are left-extremists similar to those (bolsheviks) who ruined Russia in 1917, killing miliions of people.
This only proves the lowest forms of life on the planet is slime ball Politicians, corrupted Bureaucrats and the lowest of all, the so called News Media People. Now these low life scum want to thwart the will of the People. Why? They are afraid that they will lose their playhouse of robbing and subjugating the People, plus stuffing their pockets of the spoils to become wealth rulers. Notice how the scum when speaking always speak and look down on us the peons, low life rabble for they always know what is best for us the People.
I see another American Revolution coming if that happens!
Yes. Please pray that a remedy to this comes about before that happens. And may ALL of the faithless electors and politicians be charged and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law for disregarding the oaths they took.
Perhaps with all this lying garbage by immature leftists and hillary, trying to destroy this Country in going against President elect Donald Trump, another election would satisfy the idiots proving that, We the People, voted for him to save our Country. Russians had NOTHING, to do with it.
It was an inside leak from someone in the demorat party. The only hack was of Killery’s unsecured server. Just another lie, smoke and mirror bullcra@@ to steal the election from the American people. Crankles and many other’s in office need to be tried for treason!
They want Mr. Trump out becoue it is hurting them and they can not bribe anymore to get what ever they want pased. Also the ones that are doing most of the pushing are the Mexicans be couse they do not want to get deported for breaking the Law. They break the law and want to get away with it. Also claim that thhey do not break any laws. They accuse the law for breaking up familys when they broke the familys them elves when they cam accrros the boarder against the law. I do agreee that those born in the U.. should stay in the U.S. They should be given an American pas port so they can come back to thhe state any time they want to. Thhey are the ones that started the hate problem by burning statues of Mr. Trump and calling him a White person that discriminates again panish peope. Thhey do not say Mexican people, they say all spanish people. I a spanish and i do not agree with them at all. They claim that they can help the economy, when they can’t even help Mexico with the economy. They lie to get what they want and the folish people ho listen to them do not see this.
Stupid, ignorant, arrogant, jerks, you are supposed to represent the will of the people!! DO YOUR JOB!! So very tired of this crap, we won you lost GROW UP!! When did our country become so foul that little minded minions get to tell the rest of us “we the people” who will be our President? We spoke, we want Mr. Trump. We do not want Hillary, Obama or anyone else you deem good enough!! This game crap needs to stop, recount, trying to flip electors, Russia hacking, enough!! Do the will of the people and get over the stupid, please!!
I hope and pray it’s over turned before trump makes us a communist country. Please can the real men standup and not be afraid.
Your comment makes no sense at all.
he wont make us a commie country on the contrary he will make this land free again 4 all I am a78 yr old senior who hubby fought 4 this land n died for it. n u have the bloody as’ crap to say that Donald trump will make it commie. u are a bloody drongo u don’t like Donald so get the bloody hell out the door over there. he will bring back this land to the land that my hubby and a score of others fought 4 n are still fighting so that u can say what u want its known as free speech, n the Donald will do the same. he is American patriot which I see u are not.
Maybe you need to sit down and take another bowl hit…It will all become clearer later!
These attempts by celebs and Hamilton Electors to deny Trump the Presidency are totally disgusting and these individuals
are acting like a bunch of spoiled brats and cry babies who don’t know how to deal with life when they don’t get their way.
The proper way to deal with this situation would be to accept the results of our democracy and see what they could do to benefit
our country and help Trump to be a truly great President (which I am sure he will be anyway). They should look at what he has done already to save and create jobs and nominate top-notch people for his Cabinet.
Should their effort to subvert the process succeed, the time for violent Revolution will be upon us and the blood shed will be on their heads. I only hope that much of it will be theirs. Semper Fi!!
This professors and all the other Anti-Dump Trump should be ashamed of themselves…I have never seen such poor losers in all my life…Trump will be a good President and should put our country back into shape…No more corrupt government and hope for the middle class and below…..Why can’t they just leave things alone and get out of our hair……The people have spoken and the electors should listen and vote as they are supposed to…Boy, I smell Hillary, Obama, and George Soros orchestrating this anti-Trump campaign…………
Any Elector who goes against the will of the people should be arrested for TREASON!
AGREED
I don’t understand how they can let this happen but I believe that the Electors who have turned Traitor will not know one day of peace after this is all over if they continue down this road I hope they all know that they took an outh and they swore that they would vote as their state had done.. so now because of a few bad people they are going to make it so that it goes to the house where Donald Trump may or may not be confirmed
Our chicken crap President if he had one ounce of guts he would put a stop to this..
I hope and pray that jerk is some how run out of town along with Hiillary Clinton on a dang rail…
I would love to hear Trump say at his inauguration speech that Obama, Hillary and Lynch are under arrest for TREASON.
if Vegas would take my bet,i would bet the farm and everything else that Trump will be sworn in as POTUS on Jan.20,2017.
I can say if these electoral voters do not go with the party they represents then those traitor should be thrown in jail for treason. America is heading for a civil war and that will be the end of America falling into Russia hand what Putin is looking forward to happen. All I can say that America better wake up.
No! The electorates should have the right to scrutinize the candidate. Decide whether or not he/she is performing on behalf of the people legally and not against the constitution.
No they can’t. They are not voting, the citizens are. They are there to reflect the will of the people of that State.
Trump’s popularity grows daily. He continues to go straight to the people on tweets and in person. The people see when they said no to Romney he listened. Any Electorate that votes against him is going to be named, put in history books and will go down in infamy. They are getting over 50,000 emails a day threatening their lives and families. This is a Mob Mafia bunch of Deplorable people who better watch out for when Trump is in and the DOJ and a real AG comes into play because they are the ones breaking the law and if Justice prevails they will get it in the ass.
We the people run this country! Not these assholes. They’ll get that through their heads one way or another. If they want war, they’ll have it. We will not sit still for this. They’re pushing the limits and it will bite them in the ass in a huge way. Mark my words!
In the example of “faithless electors” cited in this article, that of the 1836 Richard Johnson Vice Presidency, it is not surprising that Democrats were the party of racism.
It still is, they just use it as a weapon now projecting it on anyone who doesn’t agree with them.
Just not going to happen. It gives these guys the limelight until Monday. The country would be in an uproar like you never saw before if this ever happened.
Defeat the LEFT, claim the education system back and never allow another liberal leftist to indoctrinate these kids anymore. Look back at history, all Communist countries brain wash their citizens through their schools !!
MORE Fake News! Enough is enough already.
It does’n matter if they go against Trump. Congress has the final say and can overturn any vote contrary to the outcome in each state. If the Republican party fails to do so. Then it would be the end of the Republican party!
Yes, permanently. Their individual votes would point out their treason. Treason is a direct and serious affront to the wishes of the people. It can’t get much worse than screwing with our vote. Treason is the apt word for that, and the punishment is death.
The first Hamilton AZZHOLE to hunt down would be this Christine PELOSI POS HOSER if this did happen. This is all a Cliton plot to over throw this election and punish the DEPLORABLES who voted for TRUMP. With all the DEPLORABLES out there I foresee a Cliton Extinction and a CIVIL WAR to clean up the rest of the DEPLORABLES ENEMIES.
Crankles needs to happen to her what she orchestrated against Muammar Gaddafi. The Butcher of Libya. She is wanted for war crimes there.
Liberals are very consistent in their inconsistency. A double standard? Well, “Of course,” they say. “We only play by the rules when it is to our advantage and we’re not going to wait until the next election to move the goal posts.”
I personally believe that a good cleansing of America is long past due. If you don’t love America and our constitution. Piss off.! I took a military oath to protect our constitution from all enemies domestic and foreign. I am ready to perform the duties I swore to. Think I’m just talking….step right up. Win lose or draw you Wil know you have shit on our country for the last time. Lol…just kidding snowflakes…!
The Leftlike to claim that Russia helped Trump win the election. That’sBULL!! SOS Clinton gave Russia uranium. Russia donated huge amounts of money to CLINTON’s campaign. Since the election,some Clinton supporters have made death threats to electors who don’t change their votes to Hillary. Most Americans probably don’t know what’s going on because the MSM is owned and ontroled bythe Left, so they can tell the people what the Left want us to believe.
You can only corner a Mad Dog for so long before he attacks. That would be us! Woof Woof
I’m sure the Trump team is shaking in their boots ( Bullsh*t ). The Democrats & liberals are just making themselves look like
” STUPID CRYBABIES & FOOLS ” with their continued excuses on why Hillary lost.
They were so dam sure she was going to win, they put zip-sh*t into her campaign, never put forth her ideas for what she was going to do for the country in the FUTURE, couldn’t run on her record ( because she didn’t have one worth running on ) & her only platform was “why NOT to elect Trump ” but really gave the voter NO REASON to vote for her.
The entire Democratic party is in denial, can’t take ANY responsibility for their loss, & continue to look at the same LOSERS like Pelosi & Obama to lead them.
Just see what happens if you break your oath of enlistment if you are in the military. An oath is a sworn statement and there should be concenquences if you break it. A mans word used to mean somthing, there was a day when a hand shake was a binding agreement between two people, but now , thanks to the lawyers, it doesn’t mean shit anymore. Hell, even a written contract isn’t binding any more, lawyers always find a way around them. That’s why Washington is full of lawyers, they don’t go to school to learn the laws to enforce them, they learn the laws so they can find ways around them.
This whole thing just goes to show how down right STUPID the demirats are when it comes to an election!! They throw a temportantrum, hopeing it will change things, childlike, like when a child does not get his or her way with their parents, when they want something at the store!!! Childlike is the key word here!!! We ALL are children of GOD, but we do NOT act like it, that is a shame!! Yes they need to do away with the “electoral college”, which makes NO sense what so ever!!! Donald Trump CLEARLY won the election, so you demirats need to just DEAL WITH IT!!!! Suck it up, & move on!!! No more left wing socialists, we the people have had ENOUGH of these JERKS!!!!!! It’s time for a GOOD change, & LETS MAKE AMERICA GREAT & SAFE AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I SIMPLY find this amazing ! I really do not know if all this is just a ploy to keep the liberal agenda alive. To show they have
SOME power left so the people who voted for Hillary will stay engaged or if they really think that they can get this done.
This election WILL GO DOWN IN THE HISTORY BOOKS as the election of this century. I knew this was going to be an unbelievable fight to the finish and I gained weight sitting in front of the “big” TV watching all I could. My family even got
concerned until they too started realizing that this one was going to make history. I am almost back to fighting weight and DAMN if this one was not worth it. I laughed and cried at CNN MSNBC and the like. Fox news was the better of them all. Even CSPAN got in of the action !! Fake News reared its ugly face and the people who cried at Hillary Clinton’s hall of shame with the glass ceiling thing made my sides hurt from all the fun I got out of it.
The Liperals are playing with MUCH MORE than they realize and my best advice to them is to be VERY CAREFUL what you ask for… you MIGHT GET IT!
What’s the matter Democrats , do you have something to hide? Do you have your hands in the cookie jar? Your all a bunch of dipshits. Your wasting your time, and making a damn fool of your selves. Pack your bags folks your on your way out. I hope the powers to be will catch you stealing and prosecute you bastards….. TRUMP 2016 TRUMP 2020
The electoral reps need to vote as their state’s vote was determined
If they thought there was a backlash after Trump won. Just wait until they try and take it away from him. It won’t be pretty!!!!!!
Follow the money! Soros promised a rumored 200 million to Obama if he could socialize America. You cannot have one-world government if a super power exists! Soros and Obama have failed in their intentions to make America weak enough to succumb to a one-world central government. It is Hilary who would continue to weaken America, so socialism could reign…this is what the attempt to revert the election is all about. Only God will bless our Nation, so let’s pray for this!
He already has been elected our incoming President by all means.
I think the Democrats have become deplorable .
If they don’t vote for Trump, the swamp will be drained manually and irrevocably by the PEOPLE, and it will start with those Electoral College voters who were turncoats and cowards, mark my words.
“CLEAN THE SWAMP” Well, if the “swamp people” succeed in overturning this election I’m afraid there might be a general Revolution all over the country. We have had enough of the paid for, vote-selling, professional politicians currently in charge. They sell their votes, and our entire country out for money and power. We must get rid of the hold that lobbyists hold over our government. Term limits, now.
Pulling something like that off would probably result in a de facto Civil War. Like any other type of coup, if the perpetrators are unsuccessful in their attempt to seize control of the government retribution will be swift and severe. They will only have themselves to blame him for the hell that will be rained down upon them.
If theses commie hacks should get lucky enough to pull this scam off they will have only two options left: 1. Leave the country on a one way ticket. 2. Make your funeral arrangements because they will find out real quick what our second amendment is all about.
If my electoral votes do not go to Trump, there will be some as whipping going on! And every time they get out of the hospital, they will be needing to go back in!!
I don’t know about you, but I have a feeling that if any serious challenge to Trump’s victory raises it’s pointy little head above the usual Democrat party commie tactics, Trump should call out for the U.S. military to come to his aid as president elect, and round up the perps, gather them into one large enclosure, and oversee their interrogation, sentencing, and eventual executions.
EXCELLENT COMMENT DOCKY-YOU TOOK THE WORDS OUR OF MY MOUTH-THANKS-AND OF COURSE
I TOTALLY AGREE
Cheating, lying, thieving “Liberals” have to resort to the lowest of tactics knowing they can’t accomplish anything on their merits and abilities alone – they have no morals or accomplishments to employ in an honest pursuit.
Firstly, Why do we give so much credibility to these ivory tower people when so many of them are no smarter than the honey bucket truck driver when they get out of the narrow focus of their education. Which was probably paid for by some form of government aid. They, as you and I can become very good at something given the time and opportunity, I think the lefties have forgot how they got to where they and all the people that helped them. As for the electors, If they do not follow the rules just because of some outside force, it should be documented and prosecuted. Does the term traitor come to mind because I think a lot of anti-American functionaries are coming out of the woodwork.
This poor stupid Harvard idiot is completely detached from reality. Just like most of the overpaid common sense challenged idiots that we pay way to much for to so-called educate our youth. Fire him and let him make a living in the real world he has helped create.
Isn’t there a law about interfering with the national vote. There should not have been any contact with the electoral college voters. That should be a Federal Crime.
This just goes to show how clinton flips on every issue. The socialist pig has already conceded, which meant “gave up” when I went to school. Do all these crybabies really think they will get all the freebies clinton promised during her campaign, hell no they won’t, she will do a 180 on all those empty promises too. As far as the electoral college goes, ANY member that signed a pledge to vote for their party’s candidate and then denies him the vote should be fined and jailed or both. They are traitors as far as I’m concerned!
The fact is that when this election was completed, the electoral votes were tallied and the results were very clearly stating that the victor was Donald Trump. He is now our president, and we need to unify behind him. Both the Bible and Abraham Lincoln made it very clear that a “house divided against itself cannot stand”. So, it is logical to assume that all of this turmoil after this elaction is not propagated by any who are truly interested in the success of this nation, but rather the overthrow and destruction of what is/was the greatest nation in the world. Those detractors who are so conscientiously trying to bring this country to its knees by using intimidation, violence, mass hysteria, fake news, false allegations, the media, and other fear tactics are no better than Benedict Arnold was to the Revolutionists. It is time for the country to accept these election results and move on with the transition, just as we have always done in the past.
It ain’t going to happen, I just heard one of the Trump Elector’s he says Trump will receive over 300 votes, Most of these people were picked because they are true blue Trump supporters. Eat Crap Hillary Your Done for in American Politics and so is your Illegitimate Daughter
27-Year-Old DNC Staffer Seth Rich, the voter expansion data director for the DNC, was shot dead in the 2100 block of Flagler Place NW, three blocks east of Howard University Hospital in the Bloomingdale neighborhood with 2 shots. He was not robbed, he was assassinated by a Clinton hitman for leaking Clinton emails to Julian Assange.
The libtard press never covered this to any extent since it was damaging to their candidate.
YOU’RE RIGHT GREG-TWO OTHERS ‘DIED’ MYSTERIOUSLY IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS-THE POOR DEM GUY
WITH THE ‘BAR BELL’ FOUND ON HIS NECK-AND THE OTHER ONE-DON’T KNOW MUCH ABOUT THAT-ANYWAY
VINCE FOSTER-FOR STARTERS-APPARENTLY COMMITED SUICIDE BY SHOOTING HIMSELF IN THE ‘BACK ‘
OF THE HEAD ‘3’ TIMES-50 MYSTERIOUS DEATHS CONNECTED TO HITLERY-DOES ANYONE ASK-HOW IS IT
THAT SHE’S A BILLIONAIRE WHEN SHE HERSELF ‘ANNOUNCE THEY CAME OUT OF THE WH BROKE”-SURELY NOT ON A GOVERNMENT SALARY??? IF YOU GO AGAINST HER-‘YOUR LIFE IS IN DANGER’
The Democrats are squirming so much they remind me of a worm on a hook. They don’t live long on that hook and then they are thrown away forever.
that’s because they want to insure that every vote counts, and that the people’s will is recognised. right?
Trump is facing assault from everyone on the Left; even some in his own party and foreign governments. Think he is the man for the job? You bet he is; why else are the left doing everything to keep him from office; including terrorizing the electoral college voter and offering them legal services for voting against him!!!!!!! This should be a crime, but since it is more than likely financed by G. Soros and H. Clinton and influenced by Obama and friends, justice will never be served—how about it H. Clinton!!!!! Even after the election, By The People this time, the lies, deceit and corruption go on and on by the Left. Only D. Trump is acting positively and changing things for the positive after 8 negative, miserable and unsuccessful years. If it is not clear by now, the Left want nothing good for America’s people but just to continue their elite control and gravy train ride. Don’t think The People will stand for any tampering that changes the election results; and they should not, and should not even have to!!!!!
Its kinda like this- – – I suppose no democrat can recall the “Bay of Pigs” as well as all the other cases where our government attempted to either assassinate the leader of some iddity bitty country, support some coup attempt some where in some god forsaken part of the world? Yes sports fans, this country’s politicians should remember! What goes around will come around!! Pay back can be a bitch for sure. So, in the mean time, lock land load! We may have to! God forbid!
Isn’t Obama the President at this point and for the past 8 years, if Russia has been hacking into the White House as well as millions of other government databases when why is it JUST NOW that everyone makes the election the center of attention. Wonder if it could possibly be because Trump Won? This just shows how low the liberal left will stoop to continue deny that they lost, first it was the FBI Director that was to blame, then Jill Stein started the recount (It is proven now that this recount was just a money grab and the majority of the funds went to Stein and her closest associates) now it is Russia, next it will be little green people from Mars. Which probably will make as much sense as the other reasons have made.
They were elected by US to vote the way the STATE chose!! BEWARE!!!!!!!!!
You are going to have a civil war like you ain’t never seen if you try and pull this garbage off. The PEOPLE have spoken. They’re fed up with the lot of you. Your sorry behinds, and that’s kind, will be voted out so fast you’ll wonder what the devil happened. Back off and let Trump be what we all know he can and will be. And by the way, Trump is GOD ordained. Who do you thinks gonna’ win this battle? You got it… the Almighty. Not you idiots.
They are certaintly not very good losers. MY parents taught me better sportsmanship.
Rest easy fellow patriots. GOD is the biggest reason Trump will be in the white house. Prayers move mountains. End of story.
John McCain & his daughter Megan are traitors to the folks born & raised in the U.S.
They both act like they are Republcans but really are liberals.
Sarah Palin definitely disagrees with both of them but they would not mention it publicly.
CIA has always been corrupt & compromised due to too many foreigners are involved in this so called U.S. Secrete organization .
I want to puke because of the McCains.
Bushes & Romney are probably secretly backing Hillary also to overturn electoral votes December 19 .
When are these leftist losers gonna quit with all this nonsense? Trump is putting in 16-18 hours a day working his a$$ off and these losers just sit around wasting time & taxpayers dollars. It’s time this liberal Harvard law professor follow Trump’s example and work hard & earn his overpaid salary. It’s time Obama earn his salary & do something good for the country in his last 30 days or so.
I would be more apt to believe that they were leaks by the DNC or the Democratic controlled CIA, than hacks by Russia or any one else.
trump will be our next president if not be prepare for Riots allover America. bullshit. lol
THE REPUBLICANS THAT ARE TURNING TAIL AND CHANGING THEIR VOTES NOW ARE TRAITORS AND SHOULD BE VOTED OUT AS WELL AND ARRESTED FOR FRAUD AGAINST THE PEOPLE…..
THEY ARE NOT DOING WHAT IS IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE PEOPLE, BUT CAUSING MORE DIVISION AND POSSIBLE CIVIL WAR. THEY SHOULD BE THE FIRST ONES TO BE PUT IN FRONT OF A FIRING SQUAD….
THEY ARE NOT DOING WHAT IS IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE PEOPLE, BUT CAUSING MORE DIVISION AND POSSIBLE CIVIL WAR. THEY SHOULD BE THE FIRST ONES TO BE PUT IN FRONT OF A FIRING SQUAD….
If this is true and the Electoral College goes astray that’s a whole new can of worms that will not go well.
” The people’ will remember who these delegates are…! There will be more elections with ” the people” voting once again !
This crap is not going to stop tell HILLARY is locket up . Trump must follow up to stop what is going Hillary Said herself you don’t do things like that to demerats.
These cry-baby losers need to get a life and realize the people don’t want clinton and her cartel in the WH again. We’ve had eight years of socialism perpetrated on our country and our citizens and we are plain sick of it. The corruption exists in every department; i.e, yesterdays story about the IRS employees traveling and spending hundreds of thousands of our dollar on themselves and their high-flying lifestyle. Nothing was done about this because there is a moron loser head of the IRS who looks out only for himself. We know the socialists are simply trying to get their “candidate” hillary in, although for some days now it’s been about Russia interfering in our election which is something I don’t believe….if it’s true, then prove it!! They can’t..that’s why they won’t brief Congress….just a scam by obama to demean Trump! They are trying hard!!!!
If these people really feel the only way to get their candidate in office is to SKEW the election by these means, they need to refer to a man named Goering and the NAZI party in 1929!!!!!
The fact that Julian Assange has stated that the Russians had nothing to do with Wikileaks is not really an issue. The more likely reason for the accusations by the DNC and the CIA is that an investigation will determine where the leaks came from, and then those perpetrators can be dealt with ASAP.
They do this then we will see a new civil war in America and America will not survive it. That’s what all those on the left along with all the RINO’s want.
it would be extremely dangerous for the country and it would set an extremely dangerous precedent for the country it would kill our democracy our constitution and our electoral process as we know it.
To those who are worrying about the electorals on December 19…Never Fret…. It won’t happen…Even If the electors were to rob Mr Trump of enough votes to take him below the 270 that it takes to secure the presidency, which won’t happen…Then the election would be decided by the House of Representatives where Republicans have a very solid majority… So…Don’t worry…Donald Trump is our next President. Despite all the Fake News Democrook intervention. It’s nothing more than just one futile attempt after another to disrupt our election process by the Democrooks. Next week it will be more of the same…even after Mr Trump is sworn in it will be more Fake News, corruption as usual, denial, whining, crying, hugging each other and hate from the lowly Libtards…It’s all over but the crying…They’re toast…and it makes my day to watch the Dimwits squirm…God Bless America and God Bless Donald Trump…Merry Christmas!!!!!!
Great pay back when you think about it…They were all set to rig and cheat again all for this Criminal, who on top of everything else is/was STUPID enough to set-up private e-mail servers and then there is/was STUPID Podesta hacking himself, STUPID Bill Clinton very publicly entering the DOJ’s plane on an airport tarmac for the world to see, STUPID Obama sitting by an still open mic telling the former Russian President to wait till after his re-election, months before the elections were held, a sure WARNING that the election would be rigged in his favor….Are they all that STUPID or are they all pretending to be just that…??? They have told us and shown us again and again what they were doing, just too bad that we gave Obama 4 more years, we could have prevented the huge payout to Iran had we been bright-eyed and bushy-tailed back in 2012, and now we are having a hard time to shake off this terrible party of Communists/radical Muslims….It’s a little late, but still, I am more than just glad that Trump was elected, because who would want a STUPID CRIMINAL in the Oval Office and I guess even if she really is all THAT stupid, we will NEVER see the justice we all deserve to see her rot in jail along with all of her STUPID cronies…
Angelika Griffin, Your comments are pertinent, and correct. The problem is there are great black leaders in America, yet the first black person to inhabit the oval office is a moron. There is no fix for educated stupid. Obomination is well qualified, and has been successful in his attempt to destroy this country. Thank God he has been Trumped. JW.
The Second American Civil War started on November 9th 2016 when the insane liberal left took to the streets and started rioting and destroying everything in their path that angered them or gave an opinion other than theirs. This is not an attack on Mr. Trump, it is an attack on America, her people and our Constitution, this is the liberal left telling the voters of this nation that their vote means nothing if it is not in agreement with the liberal left. The question is are we the people going to allow the liberal left haters of America and all it stands for get away with it?
I enlisted many moons ago, but the oath holds true. I will defend this nation and her people from enemies both foreign and domestic. The liberal left are nothing more than home grown anarchist who destroy everything they touch. Let Freedom Ring! We stand together on this one or we hang separately. When on an almost daily basis we read of another law enforcement officer being murdered by more times than not another mis-informed liberal, do we really think liberals will really have a problem putting down anyone and everyone who would stand in their way? I think their actions to date have made the answer to that question crystal clear.
At age 69, I will join this REVOLUTION!!!!!! POLITICIANS ARE CROOKED!!!!! AND THIS COUNTRY HAS STOLEN ENOUGH FROM “WE THE PEOPLE”……….SOMEONE, PLEASE LIST ON THIS SITE, THE NAMES OF THESE “CROOKED ELECTORS”.
THESE POLITICIANS, BECAUSE OF THEIR STUPID FAILURES, LIVE IN FEAR OF SUCCESS. THE MEDIA, HOLLYWOOD AND GEORGE SOROS, HAVE NOTHING IN COMMON WITH “WE THE PEOPLE”. SO GET LOST. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN.
This is impossible.There’s nothing they can do..They are just trying to keep people in an up-roar.
When is the communist in charge leaving office, after all he has done to America, and still @ it trying to destroy now President Elect- Trump. This Hitler in charge has left America DOWN TO (0) IN FINANCIAL RUINS, has taken too many vacations and playing GOLF on American taxpayer BACKS, also letting all this illegals in to our country just done on purpose to FINISH America OFF, has a condominium in DUBAI as we speak is also spreading GOLF courses around the world. This illegals get all free of charge. Here @ the border we arte having a hard time with all of this illegals they spread around the cities, also they hide behind buildings I have seen them wash clothes outside the public library by the water fountains. This is outrageous I can’t wait for TRUMP to come in & fix all this
When is the communist in charge leaving office, after all he has done to America, and still @ it trying to destroy now President Elect- Trump. This Hitler in charge has left America DOWN TO (0) IN FINANCIAL RUINS, has taken too many vacations and playing GOLF on American taxpayer BACKS, also letting all this illegals in to our country just done on purpose to FINISH America OFF, has a condominium in DUBAI as we speak is also spreading GOLF courses around the world. This illegals get all free of charge. Here @ the border we arte having a hard time with all of this illegals they spread around the cities, also they hide behind buildings I have seen them wash clothes outside the public library by the water fountains. This is outrageous I can’t wait for TRUMP to come in & fix all this
America does not need another loser (clinton) like obama !!!
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For a Harvard law prof I think he’s out of his depth and has been hitting the bottle……
At least a half of the people who voted for the UK leaving EU is already regreting this. They are going to be hit hard as the sterling plumets and the economy crumbles. It was a vote against a status quo. The same has happened in the USA. People did not vote for Trump, people voted for change and against the corupted establishment. If the democrats offered a new face, instead of sticking to unpopular old face, Trump would have never won. People, who believe that he will act in the interest of ordinary people are completely deluded. He will destroy America and possibly a world.
YOU’RE ANOTHER LYING IGNORANT SCUM LIBERAL
Anna, the downfall of this nation has been the two party system, they are nothing more than two sides of the same corrupt coin. Yes there are good people within both parties, but we the people need to end these two parties and vote for representatives, to put an end to the loyalty of this two sided coin of corruption within these two parties who have took turns destroying this nation.
Isn’t the idiot that wrote this article a Harvard Professor, a liberal, so it’s all BS.
Most Americans are sick and tired of the media trying to manipulate our opinions,
by lying all the time.
Kevin it matters not what you think, it is what the liberal left thinks and what they have shown they will do when they don’t get their way. No one has gone after any other person within either party with the degree of hatred that we are witnessing today. I would not be surprised if the liberal left fomented even more violence, be it through the talking heads on the fake news media, or by way of the talking heads that they interview. This is far from over, these children and their temper tantrum throwing has just begun.
Despicable Hillary will attempt anything to steal the Presidency! But close doesn’t count. Her attempts to undermine the electoral college is setting a dangerous precedent.
HARVARD. A NEST OF LIBERAL ASSHOLES. DON’T LISTEN TO A WORD THEY SAY … ALL DESPERATE LIES. DON’T BE FOOLED BY THE ‘NAME’.
There are GARBAGE leftist liberal professors all over the country who work for the corrupt national and international machine. People will not be taken hostages by these political criminals and low life and mind contaminated gutter professors who poison the minds of the young people. The country needs to get rid of the professorial cancer.
I disagree Scott, look at the majority of these liberals who have taken to the streets and are committing violence. They are college aged for the most part, they have already been indoctrinated from grade school all the way through college, with their safe spaces, hot cocoa, therapy dogs, coloring books, and cyr-ins, and when none of that works they become violent, they are easily confused when presented with logic and tend to lash out with attacks when they can’t put up a sound argument. So it really doesn’t matter if they are able to overturn the election by way of electoral college, it won’t stop them.
Where’s the PROOF that the Russians hacked the election in favor of Trump?????
Nobody has come forward. We keep hearing from the MSM and Obama Administration that it was UNNAMED SOURCES that allege there was hacking to throw the election in favor of Trump. Where are these UNNAMED SOURCES and where’s the Proof????????? It’s been 2 weeks and nothing. It’s all FAKE NEWS from the Democrat-Socialist left. If FACEBOOK wants to ban FAKE NEWS then the Democrats will be out of business on social media.
Much ado about NOTHING . . . The Electoral College will do its duty. Mr. Trump will win, and be our nest president.
“Sparks”
liberals = SHIT HOLE OF AMERICA
I believe that Trump should win; but, I believe that the voters should vote there mind. I do think this is the ‘True First Time’ in history that there have been enough people and money in place to actually buy the Electroal College votes. Which is saying,
I don’t believe in the Electroal College having “New” information with which to change the ‘future of America’s’ vote.
“Lessig is involved with the group, and is offering any “faithless electors” who will refuse to vote for Trump free legal counsel and support”????? Are they providing personal protection, too?
The Citizens of the Republic voted to have Trump for the next President. Now these low life Totally Corrupt Politicians, Bureaucrats and the worse of all The scum so called News Media People will go against the will PEOPLE. It has to stop, but how can we recover when the scum bag Politicians have put in place over 400 NOW RULING FEDERAL AGENCIES WITH THE POWERS TO ROB YOU OF YOU OF PROPERTY, STEAL YOUR MONEY AND THE POWER OF 007 KILL IF YOU STAND UP AGAINST THEM. Why do these scum want you to not have guns? For when you have no self protection they will have total control, just like the low life people in the past. Why they do not want Trump is that he will mess with there play house cartel that they have created. The FDA (Pharmaceutical controlled) approves high profit poison drugs that kill and not cure anything at over 100,000 dead each year and all for the money for the pockets of the Politicians. Here a Quote from one of their own, “THE THING THAT BUGS ME IS THAT PEOPLE THINK THAT THE FDA PROTECTING THEM, IT ISN’T. THE FDA IS PROTECTING THE PROFITS OF THE CORPORATIONS THAT PAY US AND THE POLITICIANS! Herbert Ley, M.D., former FDA Commissioner.” Just why did the Pharmaceuticals give 26 million dollars yo the FDA Commission? This is just one, so think about it People.
This is but a ploy to get those with lemming like allegiance to follow the false narrative.
It’s not a surprise that the Democrats would be Sore Losers and complain about Voter Fraud and so much more, when after they have done it themselves in recent Elections….
The last election with Obama and Romney as per example, what do you think Michelle Obama did just before the election,but made the excuse of vacationing….. That was a set-up, as she went specif I call to Spain to see Soros and arrange a false vote count…..which is why the count was done in Spain…..
How many other times, has Hillary used her influence to sway votes for her or her husband……?? The same goes for all of what Soros has done with Obama….. It only show’s the Democrats are Sore Losers…..and Hillary is at the Top of the list……
GOD BLESS AMERICA and it’s PEOPLE !
Harvard professors have little respect for or knowledge of the Constitution. They are more prone to support the Communist Manifesto as their document of authority. If one considers that the Legislatures of each State decides the manner in which Electors are chosen, corruption could occur in Progressive States such as New York and California. They could simply decide that the governor selects the Electors.
Personally, I believe that each Congressional District in a State, should be allowed to decide who their Elector will be and there should be NO winner take all. Now that would be true Representation at the lowest level.
I fear that if the electors don’t live up to their responsibility to support their state’s decision, we could see more rioting and possibly a civil war break out. There are reasons we didn’t elect Hillary. To start:
We don’t want Hillary because:
1. We don’t want her corruption to do more damage to America,
2. We don’t want her brand of socialism here in America,
3. We don’t want her lies to effect other nations,
4. We don’t want her creating another Benghazi somewhere else in the world,
5. We don’t want her routine of personal character assassination of her opponent or anyone who disagrees with her to cause a war, and
6. We don’t want the Clinton Klan to be used to influence people of other nations to go along with her way of thinking or suffer the consequences.
You can add more to this but that sums up a lot of the reasons we didn’t vote for her.
The liberal Dumbocraps are afraid that the PC nonsense will stop and they will lose their power to dictate to the majority of Americans what their immoral standards are. We don’t want their liberal immoral standards. Enough is enough. The LGBTQ community has to accept that we don’t want their immoral actions. The “Q” is there for a reason. As in former days, it stands for Queer.
If Killery were to be the next president, I predict that within one year we will no longer be a democratic republic. She and Obama learned their brand of socialism from the same sources. Obama has started the process of changing the nation to a socialist state. Hillary has stated that she will finish the job. Look up “How to Create a Social State” by Saul Alinsky. You will find the eight steps listed there. How many do you think Obama has completed? Hillary will finish the job. Then, we will be another country under the socialist fantasy just like Venezuela, Cuba and Russia. But the Liberals haven’t even thought about that. They are too self-centered to think.
Perhaps the young liberals will begin to see the light and the truth it exposes.
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The Harvard Elite tool that writes such crap, should be shot. Thats 1, and why anyone in their right mind does not see what these Hillary Lovers from Hollywood and the 2 big fat dem states are trying to do – is rob the American people of being a Democracy. How they seriously do not see how they are willing to throw out our democracy , the values of that , as well as insult all the States that voted Red and want a change- by mocking them and telling them “you are too stupid to vote” – for the hate they harbor for Trump is absolutely insane. I use to think that Hollywood and actors did have some brains and thought process. After watching these old hasbeen , botox dependent douche bags go on air and think they sound intelligent without saying “yes, we are willing to throw away American Democracy and your right to ever vote down the Democratic party” and not flat out say it is a “cry to start a civil war” amazes me. Even the fact that the Democrats and Liberals are willing to throw such a heavy weight into an election result speaks volumes about how misguided the democratic Party is- what happened to ” all of us matter” – they forgot that 40 plus States live on this land too?
Statistically 2-3 million more people voted this election then in 2012 and they voted Republican. What is also strange is that Hillary got almost the same amount of votes as Obama did in 2012. They must have used the same voting machines except the fraud didn’t work this time because of the millions more that voted for Trump that didn’t vote for McCain or Romney. Neither Clinton or Trump got over 50% of the vote so there is no reason for the electors to change their vote to Hillary. Fox News said that Hillary got the popular vote from California and California is #1 in illegals. You do the math.
I suspect it is time to start thinking of assassinating those who would overthrow the Constitution in such a blatant manner.
Recommend reading paragraph 2 of section 1 in article II of the Constitution.