Republicans rejoice!
After years a failing healthcare system, the Senate has finally passed a measure to take the first step forward on dismantling President Barack Obama’s health care law.
The nearly party-line 51-48 vote early Thursday came on a nonbinding Republican-backed budget measure that eases the way for action on subsequent repeal legislation as soon as next month.
“We must act quickly to bring relief to the American people,” said Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky.
The House is slated to vote on the measure on Friday, though some Republicans there have misgivings about setting the repeal effort in motion without a better idea of the replacement plan.
Trump oozed confidence at a news conference on Wednesday, promising his incoming administration would soon reveal a plan to both repeal so-called Obamacare and replace it with legislation to “get health care taken care of in this country.”
“We’re going to do repeal and replace, very complicated stuff,” Trump told reporters, adding that both elements would pass virtually at the same time.
Passage of Thursday’s measure would permit follow-up legislation to escape the threat of a filibuster by Senate Democrats. Republicans are not close to agreement among themselves on what any “Obamacare” replacement would look like, however.
Republicans plan to get legislation voiding Obama’s law and replacing parts of it to Trump’s by the end of February, House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., said Wednesday on “The Hugh Hewitt Show,” a conservative radio program. Other Republicans have said they expect the process to take longer.
The 2010 law has been in a consistent death spiral since it’s passage.
All but six of the co-ops have failed, leaving hundreds of thousands of people at a loss for coverage. Insurers have suffered massive losses, resulting in many of them leaving the system all together. Those companies that still remain have repeatedly increased premiums in order to cover their losses, leaving the system affordable for many Americans.
It’s clear that Obamacare is in desperate need of reform in order for it to have any chance of success.
Thursday’s Senate procedural vote will set up special budget rules that will allow the repeal vote to take place with a simple majority in the 100-member Senate, instead of the 60 votes required to move most legislation.
That means Republicans, who control 52 seats, can push through repeal legislation without Democratic cooperation. They’re also discussing whether there are some elements of a replacement bill that could get through at the same time with a simple majority. But for many elements of a new health care law, Republicans are likely to need 60 votes and Democratic support, and at this point the two parties aren’t even talking.
Most Democrats broke with Senate traditions to offer brief explanations of their votes as they cast them. “My conscious compels me to vote ‘no,'” said Sen. Angus King, an Independent from Maine who sides with Democrats. Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky, unhappy that the measure endorsed huge budget deficits, was the sole Republican to vote against it.
House leaders planned a Friday vote on the budget.
Some GOP senators have discussed a phase-in of three years or longer to give lawmakers more time to replace Obama’s overhaul and make sure people now covered by that law can adjust to a new program.
While the future of the replacement is uncertain, the process is finally underway, proving Trump’s commitment to revamping the healthcare system in our nation and making America great again.
The Associated Press contributed to this article.
RIP Obummacare.
Sorry we HAD to know you
ADIOS HARRY ASS REID AND OBAMI CARE.
The government needs to do this –
Create plans that all ins companies must insure. Don’t allow the ins companies to create their own plans because they all differ and you can’t compare. The medicare supplemental ins is setup this way. Plan F is the same coverage for everyone if you select that plan. Then you simply shop price. They all have to deliver the exact same coverage under plan F, so if Blue cross costs $150/mo and Humana costs $160/ month you just sign up with Blue Cross because you get the exact same coverage at a lower cost. This is an absolute must to have honest competition among companies. Before, each company had a plan that was different since each plan was complex we could not figure what the best deal was. Please copy and paste everywhere because only those of us with medicare supplemental ins know there is a system that works perfectly already in place that is simple and just needs to be copied.
FINALLY OB CARE GO WAY FOR GOOD I HOPE
Obama and all the Democrat legislators that voted it in should be forced to live with Obamacare for the rest of their lives. As for the rest of us, we need something better.
Congress should be on Obama (unaffordable bill ) uncareful heath insurance.
LOL
Politicians never live with the laws they make. It’s like how socialism is not for the socialists, just for the masses. Obamacare is probably the greatest example of this. Why did Pelosi and Reid shove it down our throats and keep their own insurance ? Disgusting . Now the Ryan’s and Mcconnells better get off their RINO asses and repeal and replace the same day. Use the gift that Harry gave us.The nuclear option. Much of it can be changed by HHS and the rest can go by simple majority. Along with cancelling hundreds of executive orders perhaps we can at least get part of our country back from the clutches of OBAMA and his evil minions.
Gary-
It is my sincere hope that at some point, a provision is included to rescind and refund all fines levied against The People for not obeying what is a CLEARLY Unconstitutional statute…or should is say “was,” soon(hopefully).
(should have been “or should I say”)
They have proven how stupid Democrats are for passing a law that they have not read. They should own this healthcare themselves while everyone else gets rid of it. They own it as they voted for it. I wonder if they would buy a care without seeing it???????????????
Ahhh, remember, the republican rhinos and career politicians helped pass it also.
actually they were required to own it per the original sined bill. later they improved ACA by making themselves exempt. Why pay for healthcare when it is free??? Even though you are rich enough to pay for health events from your couch money.
LAst I heard Congress wasn’t going to actually repel and vote for a new one for three years. This action just keeps them from having to get a 60% vote when the time comes.
No not one rino voted for nobumacare as it was done on a one side vote of the democrats !!!
But the rinos continually inerfeared with the republicans getting rid of nobumacare !!
This why it’s so refreshing that Senator McConnell is actually growing a pair (of you know what). Well it’s about time, mighty Mitch. Maybe he can sense Donald’s boot getting ready to strike his backside.
Not one Republican voted for obamacare not one do you hear me??
The Republicans are certainly not blameless in a lot of problems that have been inflicted on Americans Obama & Co., but I have read and heard over and over that not one Republican signed the ACA. I just tried to find a list of who signed it, but instead I found long, windy descriptions obviously written by Obama addicts.
Of course, this would be a moot point if the Repubicans had done anything about Obama prior to the ACA.
Jeanette-
i just googled “ACA voting record” and swiftly turned up the following site:
healthreformvotes.org/congress/roll-call-votes/s396-111.2009
If you scroll down to the bottom of the page, you’ll find that 58 D’s and 2 I’s voted in favor; NO Republicans voted in favor AT ALL.
ALL of those voting in favor should be targeted for defeat – but preferably, arrest, trial and convictions for Oathbreaking, for not ONE of them can find ANY lawful(i.e. Constitutional) reason why Congress has the power to order ANYone to purchase ANYthing from ANYone at ANY TIME for ANY reason. That’s not IAW “preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution against ALL enemies, foreign AND DOMESTIC,” aka “lying under oath,” or perjury.
with obummercare gone and most of his executive orders gone Obama will have no “leg”acy to stand on .
He never had a legacy . Everything he did was for his left wing ideologues. He did nothing domestic or foreign to make us great. He made us a laughing stock from our enemies and an enemy of our allies. He was a huge ZERO as president . A disgrace to the office.
He has a legacy with me – corrupt – traitor
BigO has one legacy the , worst president in our history backed by Democrats they own it. LoL!
The worse ALLEGED president in our history.
He has somehow fixed things so that he can keep his records sealed – something that was apparently not possible before his reign of terror.
So now even Trump probably won’t be able to get a look at those documents so that we can finally know who and what “Obama” really is.
WAIT AND SEE IF THEY CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING BETTER
put a sock in it pedro
Anything would be better. Obamacare is a disaster for those who are paying for it. For those who live off the government including illegals it is great for them. I don’t think changing our whole healthcare system to accommodate 20 million(13 of which are on Medicare) at the expense of 90 million makes absolutely no sense. Anything run by the government is a financial failure and this is the granddaddy of all our federal programs. It has brought this country to its knees and the Dems will pay for it on 2 fronts. If they obstruct they will pay at the polls in 2018 as they will own all of it. Schumer and Pelosi will be responsible for its final implosion. Those senators running in red states(10) better think long and hard about jumping on board .
Agreed. Whatever those politicians running “Democrat” do,, they should definitely not grab that Obamacare balloon; the higher it soars the more detriment it causes to “Democrats”!!!
The only reason this law was ever passed was to provide another “Tax” wherewith Democrats could rob Americans blind!!!!
Obamacare was designed to force non-Muslims to pay for 100% of healthcare for all Muslims. The Muslims’ extremely high birthrate would have eventually resulted in each non-Muslim on Obamacare paying thousands every month for the healthcare of 3, 5, 10 (where would it end?) Muslims.
Thank goodness it looks like this Obama-Islama scheme to help the Islamic World Caliphate get control in America is being brought down.
his legacy will be 8 years of trying to destroy this country by running up massive debts, and bailing out wall street bankers, supporting defunct solyndra and costing taxpayers allmost 100 million dollars in his vacations and golf games. In short his legacy will be the first and last black president.
amen!
(Obama) may become the last black president, but he wasn’t the first (black president); Bill Clinton holds that distinction.
The transition can be made easier by removing the requirement to purchase insurance, removing the requirement for plans to comply with the Obamacare standards, and phasing out all subsidies. This will leave a very small group of people who are covered by Obamacare–mostly people who have health conditions which will prevent them from getting coverage elsewhere.
Maybe the government could set up a health plan for those who are uninsurable due to health conditions and let everyone else shop for plans like they shop for cars or TVs. When free enterprise is once again able to control health care competition will begin to take costs down.
Not to be negative on this but you do realize that is exactly what we had before Obama care and health care cost doubled every 5 years?. Do you really think that an insurance company is going to insure someone with $100,000 health cost per yaer for anything less than 100K? The reason they agreed to cover the preexisting was that those healthy youngsters whould have to buy insurance from them to offset their cost. If you are over 40 I bet that you have something that would make you be rated higher. Play softball, bicycle have high cholestral, even if the lab screwed up have a parent with a major health issue. Whoops you will pay more.
My you like to spread the lies thick don’t you !!? As I never bought health insurance but was reguarlly sent ads to intice me to buy one or another policy I saw the cost of I surance going down on a regular basis 5 years before the downfall of healthcare called aca the cost per month was 130$ 2 years before it was 90$ a month and you say it was doubling ???? The main problem that healthcare had was no tort reform !!!
“We must act quickly to bring relief to the American people.”
The best relief would be NO RELIEF AT ALL. Take ACA and all government care away and leave absolutely nothing except the freedom to live or die by your own judgement. It should be a swim or sink world and, if you have a problem, you shouldn’t shift your burden onto the backs of others. If you counted on ACA, you made a big mistake–and it’s you who should pay for your mistake.
Insurance shouldn’t be mandatory for anyone, and if you can’t afford it–and if you can’t cover your healthcare expenses out of pocket, or get friends/relatives to help you voluntarily–then you should just die.
The object of life is to live healthy, be careful, respect others and earn the respect of others that might be able to help if there’s a problem. But, above all, never think you have a “right” to someone else’s life or effort to get you along. The best answer to insurance is not to need it–and not to pay for those who do need it unless they are someone really special to you that you value as much as your own self.
And so Obamacare going up more than 100% from one year to the next in some states is better than going up that much over 5 years?
Strange math.
Thank you Lord. I cannot tell you how expensive it is for a 60 year old.I couldn’t afford to go to the Doctor because I was broke after my over 1000 a month payment for insurance & then I have a 5000 deduct.. it was to expensive to go. Obama talked of people not being able to afford insurance now had it. but people cant afford to go to the doctor because they couldn’t afford to because of him. retirement was never even considered anymore. we cant afford to.. he has taken my retirement away in 8 years.
I feel for you but do you see any compassion and admittance of guilt from the left. Schumer Pelosi and their sheeples are still walking in lock step to keep Obamacare even though it is destroying businesses and more importantly lives like yours. How anyone can support the Dems on anything only brings me to the conclusion we are losing the greatness of this country. If the Dems do not support the changes of Obamacare the. They still own it. They will only be on a path to self destruction as a party. I hope it happens . If the obstruct 2018 will not be a good year for them. It will be a great year for America. We will get the 60 plus in the senate and we will be the ones to get rid of all the pain and suffering these scumbags have brought to America and indeed make America great again.. Mc Cain and Graham and McConnel and Ryan are still Trump traitors and we the people need to remind them that they are not in office to secure their jobs but to do what we the people say. This idea about phasing in over 2or 3 years is garbage. Trump said repeal and replace simultaneously within the same day or hour . Just what dies Ryan and the RINOs not get. Rand Paul is probably the one for Trump to listen to. He has said you cannot repeal now and replace later. It doesn’t work. These people don’t understand who’s in charge . It’s not them it’s our newly elected POTUS.
He has ruined the financial lives of many Americans, and those people then don’t have money to spend at other people’s businesses.
In this way, Obama has severely damaged my husband’s dental practice. Several physicians we know retired – some much earlier than they would have done absent Obamacare, and several other small businesses where I used to shop have been driven out of business. And we are in TEXAS, where the Obama economic damage hasn’t been as bad as in some other states.
Obama set his IRS dogs on conservative groups (True the Vote, for instance), but what most people don’t know yet is that the IRS also attacked conservative individuals. They have been working on a problem caused by the dementia of my 90-year old WWII vet dad, a problem that should have taken a few months to resolve. We are on the seventh year now, with no solution in sight, and it has cost my dad a small fortune in attorney’s and accountant’s fees (money probably spent on five minutes of one of Obama’s vacations).
What an evil monster the Democrats inflicted on the rest of us.
yeh……………………………………………………….
Obama ruined the health care system. and now the seniors cannot even afford there medicines–thanks obama!!!!
i have many friends who have lost their coverage because of trashcare, oops obama lies.
Obama says, “That’s right; that was the intent all along. If you think it’s expensive now, wait until the Muslims who get free healthcare from Obamacare increase their numbers by several times, or ten times. Your health insurance will be $17,000 a month with a $20,000 deductible.”
Thanks goodness Trump is going to stop that Obama financial rape in its tracks!
Typo: You meant to write. “leaving the system unaffordable for many Americans.”
My, our, all of us!!!!! USA CITIZENS ARE SHOULD BE BACKING THE DONALD!!!!
NUFF SAID!!
Get rid of “Obama don’t care” once and for all!!!!!!!!!!!
Or maybe “Obamacare … for Muslims” (who get free care under Obamacare – care that YOU pay for!).
I have a concern about one-sided reviews of healthcare, and the unspecified promises of reforms. I worked for more than 10 years in healthcare before I retired, and worked for a company that offered coverage through a state-based ACA exchange,
— This topic is complicated, and it requires in-depth analysis and experts at various levels of industry, think tanks like the Kaiser Foundation, and yes, government, to develop reasonable, bipartisan solutions.
— Realize that more than 20 million Americans are now covered under health insurance under the Affordable Care Act [ACA or Obamacare].
— Rational minds agree that an affordable replacement MUST be found for those 20 million Americans BEFORE we repeal the current law.
[How long do we expect insurers to continue the current ACA policies after the law goes away? And how do we provide care for those 20 million Americans in the interim? Remember that the law also cut reimbursement for hospitals to provide emergency care for uninsured people!]
— See this site that tracks healthcare costs: http://www.ncsl.org/research/health/health-insurance-premiums.aspx
— First we need to understand what has been happening in the overall health insurance market. See the site’s graph showing employer-related healthcare costs across the U.S., from 2005 through 2015 [using state-reported data]; it shows STEADY INCREASE in the % of our income that U.S. residents are paying for employer-provided healthcare. Using that chart, I calculated that if an average single individual spent $2,000 for employer-provided healthcare in 2005, that average person spent $4,469 for healthcare in 2015. We’ve felt that, and yes, those annual increases added up!
— Unfortunately, the site does not provide a similar chart for people covered under the ACA. But we know that 2 of the years showed lower premium increases under the ACA, even though the 2017 premium increases averaged 23% [according to the Kaiser Foundation].
— So let’s be thoughtful, and not just show a knee-jerk reaction.
— If our Congress repeals the ACA [as announced] 20 million real Americans, including women, children and families, need a replacement for their ACA healthcare!
— We owe it everyone to develop solutions that will provide quality healthcare for nearly 50% of Americans who do not have health insurance through their employers — while holding down annual increases in healthcare costs.
The hard working middle and working class Americans that are paying for the 20 million on welfare to get free healthcare, can’t afford it. In many cases people’s premiums are more than their mortgage. There are stories of marriages ending because of financial difficulties that started with trying to pay for Obama’s “affordable” healthcare. And as potheads, junkies and lazy live-in-mom’s-basement-and-play-video games welfare case losers are getting healthcare coverage for the first time — for free! The hard working, struggling to raise a family, tax paying people are dropping their coverage and going without because the unconstitutional IRS penalty is much less than the monthly premiums for plans that don’t offer enough coverage to really financially protect you anyway. It needs to go! Period!
John,
The ACA is costing America; there is no doubt.
— I have heard of worse stories about people losing their homes and all of their savings because they had NO health insurance to cover catastrophic situations where they end up in the hospital for a week or more and can’t pay the bills, which quickly soar past $100,000.
— The healthcare policy costs, whether we like it or not, are established by the insurance companies, and NOT by the ACA. Each insurance company [in the private market and the ACA] runs its actuarial numbers to estimate what kind of healthcare benefits to offer in a particular geographic area [usually by state], and they set a premium designed to earn a profit when providing that coverage. When they hit higher-than-expected costs one year, they raise their rates or reduce their benefits.
— People still have health insurance options besides the ACA. You can buy short-term private insurance that has high deductibles and covers fewer services, in return for providing catastrophic coverage — and those cost much less than an ACA policy. It may be more affordable for someone to do that AND pay the penalty for a short-term policy that doesn’t meet the ACA standard.
— The ACA provides a subsidy for someone only when they reach a certain level of income [138% of the Federal Poverty Level for their area]. Because 10 southern states did not expand Medicaid, the low-income residents there who do NOT qualify for regular Medicaid, are particularly hard hit, as most can’t afford ANY ACA coverage because the ACA does not give them any subsidy.
— If you earn too much to qualify for an ACA subsidy, the full-featured private health insurance that you can buy costs about the same as what you can buy under the ACA — and all of those policies cost a lot per month.
That’s all left wing spin. The last thing we need is think tanks hashing for years how to get us out of healthcare .,it’s simple repeal and replace a garbage law which only one party voted for. We will never go through the same pains we have already experienced and 2017 will be worse . This is when the real pain and anguish kicks in. Rate hikes up as much as 100%. Guess what?? Those 20 million who got heath insurance ?? 13 million are on Medicare . In the meantime 96 million can’t even afford Obamacare .,what the Dems did once again as they always do is provide for a few at the expense of the many. So take your psycho babble and put it where the sun doesn’t shine. It is a simple act if the Dems cooperate . People have no insurance in reality . High premiums huge deductibles equals no health insurance . Don’t people like you understand the immediacy that must take place . Repeal and Replace should be the mantra. We the people should be the mantra . Dem policies have never helped the American people. Finally we have someone to govern for the people and not just the left.
Gary,
I think we can discuss things rationally.
– Can we agree that rate hikes are common for ALL health plans? In just the last 10 years, my rates were hiked every year, my employer passed more of the increase on to me each year, and my deductibles went up dramatically.
– I looked up the national information because it’s better to compare than just my experience.
– Each of us needs basic healthcare assistance, sometimes just one or more doctor visits or maybe urgent care, an occasional prescription, and sometimes follow-up care.
– But many of us have worse situations that need extensive and regular healthcare, to help with high blood pressure, diabetes, thyroid problems, or even cancer. And those needs increase as we age.
– The biggest risk everyone faces is the cost of a catastrophic situation — like a sudden heart attack, cancer, or a severe accident not covered with other insurance. Those can bankrupt us, and that’s the biggest reason to carry even a high-deductible healthcare plan like the one I buy.
– If someone in your immediate family spends a week in the hospital without insurance, the hospital nd doctors bill you at their undiscounted rates, which are roughly double what insurance company would pay — that the bills can cause us to lose our savings, our home, and even force us into bankruptcy.
– All of the above is with the current healthcare system, where costs keep going up in relation to wages.
– The ACA insured more people, but the government simply subsidized private insurers [my former employer is one of hundreds across the country] to cover more people.
– In our free-market healthcare system, hospitals and doctors can charge whatever they want. For example, if you need an MRI in case of emergency, you won’t know the expected cost until you are billed, and if you have no insurance, you’re on the hook to pay the full price they bill to you, and they can range from under $500 to over $2,000 for the same test at different facilities.
– The insurance companies negotiate a lower standard price for an MRI for members of their plan, but you would lucky if you could negotiate any rate reduction if you don’t have insurance.
– Assuming that some people will not be able to afford the insurance that you and I can afford to buy, how do we — and a country — provide that care? Medicaid is in place, largely to pay for healthcare for children of low-income families. Beyond that, the ACA was built to give over 20 million Americans their only healthcare insurance.
– If you are in the ‘working poor’ and childless, and live in a state that did not expand Medicaid, you often cannot afford $600 per month for healthcare insurance. Many then get their only medical care through an emergency room, destroy their credit when they cannot pay the bills, and instead try to scrape together several hundred dollars at a time to pay for medicines to treat their catastrophic conditions.
Gary,
– Can we agree that rate hikes are common for ALL health plans? In just the last 10 years, my rates jumped up every year, my employer passed more of the increase on to me each year, and my deductibles went up dramatically. But at least my employer absorbed some of the costs each year, as a part of their benefit package.
– I looked up the national information because it’s better to compare than just my experience.
– Each of us needs basic healthcare assistance, sometimes just one or more doctor visits or maybe urgent care, an occasional prescription, and sometimes follow-up care.
– But many of us have worse situations that need extensive and regular healthcare, to help with high blood pressure, diabetes, thyroid problems, or even cancer. And those needs increase as we age.
– The biggest risk everyone faces is the cost of a catastrophic situation — like a sudden heart attack, cancer, or a severe accident not covered with other insurance. Those can bankrupt us, and that’s the biggest reason to carry a high-deductible healthcare plan.
– If someone in your immediate family spends a week in the hospital WITHOUT INSURANCE, the hospital and doctors bill you at their undiscounted rates, which are MUCH HIGHER than what an insurance company would pay them — those bills can cost all of our savings, force us to sell our home, and even force us into bankruptcy.
– All of the above is with the current private healthcare system, where costs keep going up in relation to wages.
– The ACA insured more people, but the government simply subsidized private insurers [my former employer is one of hundreds across the country] to cover more people.
– In our free-market healthcare system, hospitals and doctors can charge whatever they want. For example, if you need an MRI in case of emergency, you won’t know the expected cost until you are billed, and if you have no insurance, you’re on the hook to pay the full price they bill to you, and they can range from under $500 to over $2,000 for the same test at different facilities.
– The insurance companies negotiate a lower standard price for an MRI for members of their plan, but you would lucky if you could negotiate any rate reduction if you don’t have insurance.
– Assuming that some people will not be able to afford the insurance that you and I can afford to buy, how do we — and a country — provide that care? Medicaid is in place, largely to pay for healthcare for children of low-income families. Beyond that, the ACA was built to give over 20 million Americans their only healthcare insurance.
– If you are in the ‘working poor’ and childless, and live in a state that did not expand Medicaid, you often cannot afford $600 per month for healthcare insurance. Many then get their only medical care through an emergency room, destroy their credit when they cannot pay the bills, and instead try to scrape together several hundred dollars at a time to pay for medicines to treat their catastrophic conditions.
I like our new slogan; however, I am with RAND PAUL in that we CANNOT add to the current budget of 20 trillion !
How is “affordable health care” going to be financed? We encourage getting out of debt on credit cards, so let’s not
get in debt as a nation that we cannot afford.
Take the cost out of obuma and the democrats very deep pockets after all it was their brainchild that made healthcare UNAFORDABLE !!!
But the people who USED to have reasonable insurance, but now can’t use their Obamacare because it is so expensive and has such high deductibles – why do we not hear how many of them there are?
And when the Obamacare premiums jump as much as 100% + soon, how many more people will fall into that category?
It’s very possible that more people have lost the ability to use insurance (even though they are forced to pay for it) than those who now have insurance but didn’t used to have it.
So what Obama did is make sure that a group that he preferred got insurance, and millions of other Americans lost theirs.
And doesn’t anyone remember the architect of Obamacare (Gruber) bragging on how successfully Americans had been SCREWED with Obamacare? What do you think he meant by that?
Before Obamacare I was paying for my own insurance (self employed). I was covering a family of five and paying $285 a month for a high-deductable plan ($5,000 individual, $10,000 family) with a $20 copy for office visits, $40 copay for specialist office visits, and 100% coverage after deductible was met. After the “Affordable” Healthcare Act forced me into the new socialist system. I had to buy the cheapest bronze plan offered. The copays went down to $15 and $30 but my deductible when up to $7,000 individual $14,000 family. And the insurance coverage, after the deductible was met, was now a horrible 60/40. So if something really big/expensive did happen, I was now guaranteed to lose everything or, best case scenario, file for bankruptcy. Oh, and my premium for that crappy plan was now $526 a month even after a small subsidy. Nearly double what I was paying for much better coverage. The next year my premiums rose to $652. In 2016 my premium would have went up to over $800 a month for the same very-low coverage, very-high deductible plan — but I divorced in 2016 — so I no longer had to cover my wife and my oldest got a better job with coverage of her own, so now it was just me and my other two kids who stayed with me. So, I had to reapply for coverage. Now they were telling me with just two dependents I made too much income to qualify for a tax subsidy. But, then they denied my kids coverage and said they would now apply for the CHIP (Medicaid) program. Try and make sense of that! I made too much income to get a subsidy, but they were actually denying coverage for my kids and forcing them into the welfare state. So now I was only covering myself under that same crappy bronze plan for $256 a month. Nearly what I was paying to covering a family of five with much better care before Obamacare. Now for 2017, the healthcare carrier I was using left the system (at least in my state). Another carrier took over and I enrolled in the plan closest to the plan I had. It’s still the same crappy 60/40 bronze plan coverage, my deductible went up to $7,600 individual, and the copay for seeing a specialist was taken away, among other changes that lead to basically less coverage. And my monthly premium went up to $280 per month for just me. So, I’m basically paying the same per month premium to cover just myself with a very, very poor plan, as I was paying to cover five people with much, much better coverage before the Ayatollah Obama rolled in and “fixed it all” with socialism. But hey, all the potheads and junkies that never worked a day in their life and are already living off of my tax dollars get free healthcare, including surgeries, abortions, and anything else they want. And that murderer with life in prison is going to get a free gender-reassignment elective surgery. So it’s all “fair” according to the mentally ill left.
It’s demise is long overdue – thanks to the Republicans we’ll have an affordable alternative with much better coverage as well something the “Liberal Democrats” wouldn’t know anything about.
We will have choice once again. Dems always push laws which are one size fits all. They have done it in federally controlled education, federally controlled interstate trade, federally controlled healthcare. This is why I want Trump to block grant Medicare to the states . It is time the states had the control back in their states. The American tax payer is paying for the incompetence of most all blue states in this country, each state should be supportive of their people within that state. California. Illinois, New York are like welfare dependents. They rely on the citizens from other states to pay for their lack of good governance. All should go back to the States. This whole idea of the federal government being the pimp for the states is ridiculous . State rights need to be restored
I LOVE the thought of the changes to make it affordable for everyone, and I hope you are right. ? I can’t hardly stand to even look at OBAMA (s). But talk has always been cheap… the proof, WILL BE IN THE PUDDING !!! N THAT’S A fact… I pray that the newly elected officials are able to get R done… GOD BLESS AMERICA, & GOD BLESS THE TRUMP/PENCE LEADERSHIP, TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, IN DIVISABLE , WITH LIBERTY And JUSTICE FOR ALL.
PASS A LAW THAT CONGRESS IS FORCED TO HAVE THE SAME HEALTHCARE PLAN, WE WOULDNT HAVE GOT STUCK WITH OBUMBACARE, AND THE DUMMIES THAT DREAMED THIS CRAP UP, SHOULD BE PROSECUTED FOR THE CRIME OF TREASON, NOBODY SHOULD EVER BE FORCED TO BUY HEALTHCARE, HEALTHCARE IS A LUXURY NOT A GOD GIVEN RITE! WANT FREE HEALTHCARE MOVE TO A COMMIE COUNTRY, COSTA RICA CHARGES 60 BUCKS A MONTH FOR HEALTHCARE, 2 BUCKS A DAY, EVEN A WELFARE BUM CAN AFFORD THAT.
I used to pay $49 monthly premium to be included in my husband’s company insurance. When the UNaffordable Care Act became law, my premium (ME alone) increased to $389! That is MONTHLY!!! Whose medical insurance is “tucked in” with mine?
Muslims get free healthcare under Obamacare – permanently. Meaning, they do not have to pay any insurance premiums.
So some Muslims are “tucked in” with your insurance, and since their birthrate is probably five times what ours is, there is only one way this will eventually end for non-Muslims, if O’care isn’t ditched. Confiscation and transfer of all assets of non-Muslims to Muslims.
The Democrats can’t seem to figure this out, even with a calculator. Of course, they have no decency or loyalty, so would probably happily convert to Islam and add even more people to be covered free.
Thank God for Trump – now maybe before long I will be able to sleep again at night.
Oh no …… a replacement plan?????? Come on get real any plan devised by those we elected to represent us will be expensive to us, limit the responsibility of insurance suppliers, and of course those that devise it will exempt themselves from being bound by it. No I prefer we just get the same plan the 535 have and be done with it, after all if it is good enough for them it will be good enough for us RIGHT?
The only real solution is a few simple rules for all insurance providers !!!
1 TORT REFORM
2no preexisting condition clauses and only a moderate increase allowed for those are dianiosed conditions !! If it was not being treated or watched by a doctor it is not medically preexisting in the first place just undiscovered !!
3 no more bounce backs !!! Once a hospital and insurance co. Agree to a payment there’s no passing the unagreed part on to the next patient as hospital cost !!!
There could be more but I am not the only person envoled in the mater !!! And 1400+ pages of rules was beyond reasonable !!!
Good idea!
And, fat chance!
As an additional comment, our military budgets increase yearly by huge amounts and are truly staggering in size why is that our healthcare needs cannot be financed? Hmmm…. could it be there is too much government involvement?
Maybe Soros could chip in?
Soros should be investigated, and deported on grounds of moral turpitude.
And whoever signed onto his U.S. citizenship should also be investigated, if they are still alive.
Right on JEANETTE deport soros to Russia . Putin will take care of him!
The Clinton Foundation should subsidize Obamacare. Oh wait… That corrupt, self serving, illegal, immoral, money laundering, influence peddling cash cow dried up on November 9.
Use a dictionary!! Voting a conscious is impossible, The fact of being aware is not a reason to vote for anything. Voting a conscience is however, very doable, as that is a person’s belief of right and wrong. Please, do not continue in the dumbing down of America. Spell checking is not the end all and be all of the editing tools available. Knowing words and what they mean IS the basis for communication, especially in the field of journalism.
LL bacio della morte Obamacare!! The snowflakes, cupcakes and fruitcakes are squealing like the little pigs that they are. The free ride is over. Subsidizing the left is done!! DRAIN the swamp!!!
I don’t understand how the democrat’s and the new media can defend Obamacare. Death can sometimes be merciful! When you consider healthcare premiums and deductibles have doubled over the past two years, I don’t understand how anyone could defend any plan that is so out of control? When the US economy is growing at less than 3%, how can the middle class continue placing their confidence in such an ill-conceived healthcare plan. The handwriting is on all the wall. The US is a democracy and the people of this nation have spoken. Thankfully the republicans have the majority and so Obamacare will hopefully go the way of the dinosaur. To my fellow bipartisan, 2017 is looking to be a good year!
You only made one mistake ! MInly due to the dumbing down of this REPUBLIC nation that uses demo ratic means to elect our over paid congress men /women in Washington DC !!!
GOOD COMMENT ABOUT EACH STATE BEING RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR HEALTHCARE.
I AM AN HONORABLE CALIFORNIAN AND WILL SUPPORT AN AFFORDABLE PLAN FOR OUR STATE.
THAT IS WHY I VOTED REPUBLICAN; NO MORE FEDERAL CONTROL, ONLY STATE DECISIONS/CONTROL.
BY THE WAY, ALL CALIF. IS NOT DEMOCRATIC, AND WE BELIEVE IN A DEMOCRACY UNDER D. TRUMP.
That’s why we should device into three states north , south and lala land !!!
Hello,
Everyone who reads things on this site, please go out and buy something from LL Bean.
I was watching the news yesterday and because the CEO of LL Bean made a donation to the Trump campaign the Liberals are trying to start a boycott of LL Bean.
Please forward this email to all of your Friends and ask them to support LL Bean and to also forward this email to their Friends.
Also if you know of any other companies that the Liberals are trying to boycott please support them also.
Trump supporters need to start of a boycott of the celebrity Hillary supporters of companies like Old Navy and others who hire people like Amy Shumer to do TV commercials for their companies.
Some Democrats are the lowest form of life. I do not remember hearing of any sort of boycott the last 8 years by Republicans when Obama was elected
THIS MUST BE DONE FOR ANY NEW PLAN TO WORK!
The government needs to do this –
Create plans that all ins companies must insure. Don’t allow the ins companies to create their own plans because they all differ and you can’t compare. The medicare supplemental ins is setup this way. Plan F is the same coverage for everyone if you select that plan. Then you simply shop price. They all have to deliver the exact same coverage under plan F, so if Blue cross costs $150/mo and Humana costs $160/ month you just sign up with Blue Cross because you get the exact same coverage at a lower cost. This is an absolute must to have honest competition among companies. Before, each company had a plan that was different since each plan was complex we could not figure what the best deal was. Please copy and paste everywhere because only those of us with medicare supplemental ins know there is a system that works perfectly already in place that is simple and just needs to be copied.
Your line of thinking leaves many things uncovered a total health care plan that paid 80%of the bill for both a doctors visit and a hospital stay is preferable to one that only covers a hospital stay and before obumacare that’s what was available to all but those with a “”preexisting”” condition that was not even known about until their drs found it while examining the new costumers !!! In my book if its not being treated by a doctor its not a preexisting condition !! Its an undiscovered condition !!!
YES, get rid of the Affordable Care Act! There are numerous things wrong with it but to start with; for most people it is NOT affordable.
GOP should have ACA replacement plan/s Up by Now & ready or basic concepts to share to the Public
Its doable.
CUT the bad side of ACA & Keep the good side of ACA.
Scrap the source causing rise in Premiums alone for Votes with the Public.
More can be done
I find it very ironic that it is called The Affordable Care Act. I wonder if all the Senators like Elizabeth Warren and Chuck Shumer actually are covered under Obama Care. I would bet money that they are not.
Good day to all. I have read the posts here and a common theme keeps coming up that Heath care costs have gone up. All that we consume has gone up in price as well.Cars, entertainment, food. To fix the problem with the current health care system is to make it Single Payer. The health care law in Canada is thirteen pages long. Polls taken from countries that have Single Payer system show that the people are much more happy and healthier at a lower cost than the people in the good old USofA! I heard Mr T. mumble something about single payer system. Hope he remembers. So before you jump all over me,I just want to say we all need good health care that everyone can afford and Single Payer is the only way to please every body.
Mitch McConnell is a very sad excuse for a man…………..