House Republicans have targeted ObamaCare for years. Now, one of their most ambitious plans yet looks to completely replace the U.S. healthcare system — and it could mean big changes for large parts of Medicare and Medicaid.
The GOP unveiled its large proposal Wednesday as a showcase on how they would repeal and replace President Barack Obama’s health care law.
The plan relies on individual tax credits to allow people to buy coverage from private insurers, and includes other largely familiar GOP ideas such as medical liability reform and expanding access to health savings accounts. It proposes putting $25 billion behind high-risk pools for people with pre-existing conditions and for others, and transforming the federal-state Medicaid program for the poor by turning it into state block grants or individual per-capita allotments to hold down spending.
Details also include various ideas aimed at shoring up the Medicare health insurance program for seniors, including gradually increasing the retirement age and ultimately giving beneficiaries a choice of private plans to choose from in competition with the existing fee-for-service model.
“If there’s a surprise in the plan, it’s that Republicans included elements of [Speaker Paul] Ryan’s controversial proposals to overhaul Medicare and Medicaid,” The Atlantic reported Wednesday. “Over the last few months, a consensus emerged among lawmakers that they could not propose to fix the health-care system without touching the main drivers of federal spending and debt—entitlement programs.”
Critics say the 37-page white paper leaves some key questions unanswered, including the size of the tax credits, the overall price tag of the plan, and how many people would be covered. Republican aides said it’s intended as an overall roadmap showing how the GOP would approach undoing and replacing Obama’s health law with a Republican in the White House, and specific legislative details would be answered as the actual bills are written next year.
As such it is an aspirational document like the rest of Ryan’s “Better Way” agenda, a six-topic blueprint that the speaker has been rolling out this month at carefully choreographed events. Ryan was to present his health care proposals alongside several House committee chairmen Wednesday afternoon at the American Enterprise Institute, and a tax plan was coming Friday.
“Obamacare set America on a path that leads to a larger government having a greater role in how health care decisions are made. Today we are proposing a new approach,” the report’s authors wrote. “This report is the beginning of the conversation, not the end.”
The House GOP health care plan comes six years after the Affordable Care Act became law, requiring nearly all Americans to carry health insurance and employers to offer it. The law’s mandates and tax increases have stoked endless controversy and opposition from the GOP.
The Associated Press contributed to this article.
It’s long overdue.
Amen to that lets at least try to put a little conman sense in to the health care bill.Medical insurance and some Medical institutions and drug companys are ripping the American people off.and it is not all research.
The Republican proposal is super stupid as usual. It should become an extension of Medicare with single pay by Medicare funded with payroll deductions like Social Security and no copay that would produce better heakthcare and cut the cost at least 50%. I have the proposal details in my book “How to Create Jobs” Chapter 37. on rojego dot com.
Fine if you can remove the cap on Social Security. That will never happen because the higher earners won’t pay their fair share. The trouble is, that Ryan and the rest of the Democrats have destroyed the middle class and there will fewer jobs to extract funds from.
High earners allready pay for allmost all of the bill and receive nothing in return.
Your comment about high earners not paying their fair share is correct if you mean they are being robbed and pay for way more than anything “fair”. A view typically expressed by communist and ignorant people.
FICA Taxes (which fund social security and Medicare-Title IV) are capped at $118,000. On any income a person earns over $118,000, they pay 0% in FICA taxes. Your are thinking of income tax, not FICA tax.
“the rest of the Democrats”? Last time I looked Paul Ryan was a Republican.
Nola-
“RINO” means R.epublican I.n N.ame O.nly. Ryan is a RINO. Ryan the RINO. RINO Ryan.
This means that both philosophically and politically, he’s a democrat, for all intents and purposes – and likely on-board with the OWG/NWO types that back the likes of Canadian Cruz, based on his expressed desires to keep Trump out of the WH.
You must be a younger fella to think anything said by Paul Ryan is going to benefit you. All I have ever heard Paul Ryan say is that he wants to cut Medicare and Social Security. I myself will never believe anything RINO Paul Ryan says.
As a Republican I feel Paul Ryan is to young to even understand how ridiculous some of the things he says. Social Security is very important to our country and to those very vulnerable elderly and those with disabilities. We are a great country able to have charity(love) for our people. I am not a socialist . I am talking about responsibility to watch out for people.
Social security gained wide acceptance because at one time it was fair.
It is loosing appeal as more double taxaction and benefit reductions to higher earners are imposed by the political class. The more socialistic social security becomes the less support it will have.
Socialism ALWAYS brings EVERYONE down.
Social Security was designed as a safety net for the elderly.
That was the story they sold to the populace. In truth, actuarial tables were used to determine the statistical probability of deaths/survivors, with the hope – realistic expectation, in truth – that most would die before ever seeing a penny.
Honestly, Social Security has been a scheme from the beginning, a scheme to turn Sovereign citizens into Federal personnel and subject them to a whole host of laws to which they would not ordinarily be subject:
TITLE 5 – GOVERNMENT ORGANIZATION AND EMPLOYEES
PART I – THE AGENCIES GENERALLY
CHAPTER 5 – ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURE
SUBCHAPTER II – ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURE
Sec. 552a. Records maintained on individuals
-STATUTE-
(a) Definitions. – For purposes of this section –
(13) the term ”Federal personnel” means officers and employees of the Government of the United States, members of the uniformed services (including members of the Reserve Components), individuals entitled to receive immediate or deferred retirement benefits under any retirement program of the Government of the United States (including survivor benefits).
There IS no Social Security fund, and never has been. The money paid in today is disbursed to the qualified recipients, and the rest spent on various gov’t programs. The break-even point is estimated to be around 2016; those born after the mid 70’s are unlikely to see anything more than reduced benefits, at best.
“Liberty has never come from the government. Liberty has always come from the subjects of government. The history of liberty is the history of resistance. The history of liberty is a history of the limitation of governmental power, not the increase of it.”
— Woodrow Wilson(1856-1924) 28th US President
Pay attention; the enslavers are sly dogs, always have been.
We will never get control of the budget debt/deficit unless there is a serious change to Social Security and the ‘Entitlements.’ But every time any one in our Congress is brave/foolish enough to mention this fact they are ripped to shreds. The truth is that our deficit cannot continue forever. We will have to pay soon. And we will either fix the damage with a controlled burn, or we’ll have to deal with a wild forest fire-destroying everything. So what will it be, folks?!!
Arthur,if the criminals in DC that you support thàt have stolen the money from Social security and Medicare( that Obama administration recently STOLE over $150 BILLION FROM) would just return what has been stolen from the ones of us that paid SS and Medicare TAXES ,we would never run out of money to support the ones thàt paid! A–holes like yourself must have never paid or your attitude would be a little different!!
A BIG AMEN TO THAT.
I HAVE BEEN DISABLED BY A FALL WITH UNRETRACTABLE, IRREVOCABLE PAIN IN THE BACK (LESSER DEGREE TO NECK) TO THE POINT IT TAKES AN IMMENSE EFFORT TO WALK 50 STEPS, ON THE DAYS THAT I ATTEMPT IT, AND I ATTEMPT IT EVERY DAY, BY THE TIME I DO, I AM DONE. I HAVE TO WAIT AN UNDETERMINED AMOUNT OF TIME TO ATTEMPT TO GET BACK TO MY CHAIR. MY LEGS LOSE FEELING AND GET NUMB AT TIMES, TINGLING ALSO OCCASIONALLY OCCURS. BEARING DOWN TO HAVE A BM IS TOTAL HELL TO ME.
I HAVE HAD MANY NECK AND BACK SURGERIES (4 OF EACH) AND ALSO OTHER SURGERIES SINCE I FELL IN FEBRUARY 2003.
I AM TERRIFIED THAT SOMETHING WILL HAPPEN AND MY MEDICATIONS WILL BE TAKEN FROM ME … IF THIS HAPPENS, I WILL TURN TO ALCOHOL FIRST TO RELIEVE MY PAIN, (MY FATHER WAS AN ALCOHOLIC, AFTER SEVERAL BACK SURGERIES HE GAVE UP). HE WAS MURDERED IN 1999, BUT I KNOW THAT HE WAS READY TO DIE.
IF THE ALCOHOL DOES NOT HELP MY PAIN MY NEXT CHOICE WOULD BE BLACK MARKET DRUGS (THAT I WOULD NOT ABUSE , AFTER THAT, MY NEXT AND LAST CHOICE WOULD BE SUICIDE.
I HAVE PAID INTO SS ALL MY LIFE AND I WAS A HARD WORKING REGISTERED NURSE. THE HARDEST WORKING NURSE THAT I HAVE KNEW IS MYSELF AND I GAVE EXCELLENT CARE.
FAMILY MEMBERS WHO HAD NOT BEEN LEAVING THEIR LOVED ONE’S SIDE TO GO BATHE OR DO BUSINESS WERE DOING SO BY THE AFTERNOON OF MY FIRST SHIFT OR BY THE MORNING OF MY SECOND SHIFT.
I HAVE BLESSED MANY PATIENTS AND I HAVE NOT ONE SINGLE THING THAT I REGRET IN THE CARE THAT I GAVE MY PATIENTS.
I MISS NURSING SO VERY BADLY.
I MISS LIFE SO BADLY.
First, I don’t appreciate you calling me a–hole. And if you are stupid enough, and ignorant enough, to believe that Obama began the theft from Social Security/Medicare funds then you are really ten bricks short of a load. These problems date from the 1960s. Both Republican and Democrat Representatives, Senators, Presidents have contributed to the problem. So, are you going to yell “A-hole” at everybody, or are you going to try to fix the problem. Actually, I don’t have any faith in you. You’ve already identified yourself.
What it’ll be is to stop all of the welfare fraud and bringing in refugees to this country and supplying them with all kinds of entitlements. I have paid into this system for my entire working life and I will be darned if I will just sit back and shut up because some Rino like Ryan gets ONE MORE STUPID IDEA up his backside.
Arthur Hartsock, where do you get off calling my SS or Medicare benefits an entitlement?
My paperwork from the SS office calls it a BENEFIT! It is a benefit I have paid into for more than 45 years. Why don’t you take your energy and focus it on something more legitimate. Like where has all of the money gone that was paid into SS for the last 60 years? Why don’t you find out the REAL reason that there are not enough funds left in the program? If you bothered to look, you would find that a huge portion of the funds that were in SS went to OTHER programs that the Government deemed were more important than our security for our retirement years. So DON’T present answers without first researching what caused the shortage in the first place!
If you want to talk entitlements the also include the subsidies to farmers and the oil industry as well as others. Fair is fair.
You are right on. Paul Ryan has been saying since before Romney & Ryan lost the last election that he wants to cut Social Security & entitlements to the poor & low income. He’s just worded it differently to fool people into thinking that he is finally going to repeal Obama Care & replace it with something “Better” as he & other Republicans promised they would do. He said he was sorry he called people on food stamps “Takers”. No he was sorry that Romney & him got caught on tape, & lost the election.
Read the above statements. Ryan’s goals are the same as it was 8 yrs ago: increase the retirement ages so people will not qualify for Medicare at age 65, he wants limitations on medical liability giving doctors, nurses, hospitals, & drug companies being sued for malpractice by their victims putting Americans at higher risk of death & sickness.
Paul Ryan wants to appear presidential, but he is the best weapon against REPUBLICANS the Democrats have. Ryan will hand Hillary the election on a silver platter. However Paul Ryan wants unlimited Syrian Refugees & unlimited illegals pouring across our borders. He has already started his cuts to the poor & low income by reviving Bill Clinton’s Welfare Reform Act of 1995. Effective April 1, 2016 over 26 states began these new cuts/requirements to food stamps. Ryan will cut grandma & grandpa’s food stamps in half, rise the retirement age for Medicare ,just so he can fund the illegals & Syrian Refugees. He said church goes need to step up & help the poor more, not the federal govt. Same ole Paul Ryan who called people on food stamps “Takers”!
What IS long overdue, is “eliminating the Great Heathcare Plans of Politico’s in our Congress.” They, should have to live by WHATEVER Laws they enact…ALL
of them. Matter of fact, the Whole Congress, should ONLY serve the same term as a POTUS…8 Years, then THEY go BACK TO THEIR REGULAR JOBS.
THEY COULD ALSO GIVE UP THEIR CUSHY PENSION, PERKS, KICKBACKS FROM LOBBYISTS(THAT SHOULD BE OUTLAWED ENTIRELY) BIG BUSINESS, THAT “BUYS THEIR VOTES”
PAUL RYAN IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF “EXCESS” WHEN HE HAS LIVED OFF THE TAXPAYER’S FOR HIS ’17 YEAR CAREER, BUT only CAME UP WITH THREE BILLS HE PRESENTED TO CONGRESS.”
YEP, TIME TO MAKE LOTS OF CHANGES FOLKS..,.START WITH THE “POLITICOS THAT HAVE FED OFF THE TAXPAYER’S PUBLIC TROUGH FOR A LIFETIME…TIME TO SHUT DOWN “THE GRAVY TRAIN.”
Yes they have lost sight of serving and made this about careers. They need to go back to being what they are trained for. No benefits at all. Salary and that is it. the have their education. Go back to a job like the rest of us.
There is no doubt the golden egg the politicians get
Is ridiculous. They need to get no more than the common citizen gets from Medicare and social
Security. The Republicans want to put all seniors in
The poor house – just like they were before these outstanding programs came along! Yes there are many
Areas that can stand a lot of tirming, but these two are not one of them. Citizens pay into these programs all
Their lives and deserve these protections. Ryan would
Make you believe that some layered program of vouchers and grants will solve all. Sounds an awful
Lot like the current voucher and grant programs that
Get bogged down in corruption, miss approiation, stolen money and crime.! We already have a mess in
Food stamps, foolish education grants for needless testing, etc. How would Ryan’s programs be any different and end up giving a windfall to big pharma,
And wealthy individuals that do not need a life preserver. Economist and a panel to study this a few years back say the solutions are not that dire and can
Be easily fixed. However, politicians are choosing to
Get the can down the road. It does not require Ryan’s
Faulty intervention.! As far as ACA – I agree it needs
Tweaking, but it has promise. Think about the lost
Productivity and dollars lost to bankruptcy due to so many not able to get health care. That does not include
The cost to government paying for the indigents care in
The end. So one once said pervention is worth an ounce of cure. Citizens need to tell politicians like
Ryan the answer on the budget lies in a lot of area, not
On the seniors. If he can’t see that, him and his cronies
Need to go.
Anything Ryan proposes is scary, does nothing for the common man, its raise the age limit of seniors, and increase salary for Congressman and increase funding for immigration illegals and undocumented workers, with Ryan is WATCH OUT TIME!
Paul Ryan is completely wrong again. Can’t believe he is at it again. First, social security should not be termed an entitlement, People and their employers pay into the program their entire working life. It is a forced insurance policy.
The real entitlements are the vast number of dollars that are spent to support our senators and congressmen which include annual salaries for the rest of their lives, expensive health care coverage and protection for them when not in office as well as others that I have probably forgotten. These should all be abolished and they should go on the same programs as the rest of us. I am sure we would see a great change in emphasis.
I could not have worded your truth statement any bettet. Thank you.
A lowered deficit, too.
Thank you Frank! You are the voice of sanity and you are well informed. Yes, yes, yes.
Nothing will change for regular, working people.Even worse! They want to rise age for Medicare to 67 years .Illegals and lazy will get free health care.What a improvement !!!
Are they going to cut benefits like they have done to military and federal workers pensions? Are they going to cut benefits to able bodied freeloaders foreign and domestic who get EBT, WIC, Sec. 8 housing etc.? Of course Senators and Congressmen receive no cuts in their health care. No cuts in foreign aid either to wealthy hater nations like Saudi Arabia.
you are right on that cut the free loaders so many able body people that have run out jumped on the disability crap to get free everything you see it in about every neighbor hood lazy folks waiting for us working ones to supply their every need way to easy to get it when I was young I had a friend her sister got two forms of polio was in iron lung and wheel chair now the rest of her life I remember her family had to fight tooth and nail for her to get a little disability social security check now they just run to doctors office and wella free check monthly not right
Maybe not right, but with NAFTA and the new TPP laws, they cannot find work. Top that with unlimited illegal immigrants pouring into our country willing to cut everybody’s wages says the former policies of Obama and Ryan just don’t allow for the funds they want.
Love it when they always include Medicare as an “entitlement” like Medicaid. I am 75, still working and still paying SS and medicare on my taxes. But these refugees can come into this country and are immediately put on medicaid/medicare, SS benefits, as well as all of the other freebies, Section 8, food stamps, and of course, good old cash. You can be sure they will cut medicare every way they can, after all who cares about us old folks who won’t be around long to vote, but we have to protect and encourage these “future” voters, as all of them will become. Sounds like another Obama/Ryan scam. Maybe if the democrats take control of the House Ryan can just switch parties, he is more democrat right now than they are. What a disgrace.
@ Southern: Good comments.
Very well said!
You are right on. My mother is 90 and gets less than the illegals. Charity begins at home. The elite of both parties are taking advantage.
I for one would like to see a plan to improve Obamacare rather than terminate it.
In some places in this country Ovoitcare rates are going up some 48% next year. It seems to me that the best wy to improve it is to kill it entirely and start over with some better ideas. Competition across the entire nation would be a good start. Competition maybe from companies from other countries might also be a good idea. I think we should try several things and choose the best ideas from among all of them. The Ovomitcare bill was written behind closed doors in secret and then rammed down our throats against our will by a bunch of NAZIs in the Congress, all of which should have been thrown out of office years ago. It is a total failure and should be totally scrapped.
Have you read that abomination? The only “improvement” possible is to completely eliminate it.
What is their plan to lower the price of prescription drugs? The pharmaceutical companies need to be regulated by the states or the government to ensure the companies have reasonable prices that people can afford.
You can’t mean that! The CEO’s must get their multimillion dollar bonuses. Oh, by the way, they probably get their pills free.
What does this mean for the POOR and disabled elderly persons making only 1,500.00 a month only with no other income who can’t even afford the cheapest rent?
I don’t believe a word Paul Ryan says, he’s nothing but a RINO who will be voted out next November.
After over 45 years as a registered voter, I learned one thing that has always come true. If a Republican says that they will help you, (The American People), hold on to your wallet. Their hand will soon be in it. President Obama pleaded with Republicans for over 2 years to help craft the Affordable Care Act. What puny offerings that the republicans shot out after the ACA was enacted, would have spelled catastrophe to most American People, but would have fattened the pocket books of the top 1% while putting the working class on the street. Now, like a Jonny come lately they have a “New” plan. You can bet if the Republicans come up with another “Voucher” type plan, the American People will lose more than they are now in the Tea Party/Republican States that have refused to work with the ACA plan.
John, although I am Republican, I have to agree with you. t is terrible the way my Prescription Plan rates went up, but that is fine compared to the way Repubs would send people to the early grave or prison for doing something illegal just to survive on disability.
Did you have your head buried during the development of oslimecare? Every suggestion the Republicans made was rejected without consideration and the final closed-door development barred any Republicans.
Your “blame” is directed at the wrong party.
Well, sir, you are as big a liar as Obama himself. Obama crafted his horrid plan behind closed doors and everybody knew it.
I think the New republican Party will do better. Both sides are deficient in the way they do things. The are just playing games with us. The whole thing was doomed from the beginning because both parties have been taken over by extreme ideologies. Healthcare is a mess. As a poor person on the ACA I now owe one thousand dollars because of their mistake. I won’t pay. but they call. We can’t afford things because there are no jobs. Insurance is a racquet. Doctors are puppets. There is a way and I believe Trump will find it. ACA was shoved down everyone throat because these parties just fight to win, not for the Americans but for themselves, Both are guilty. I am finished with this game. I’m tired of being abused by lawyers and Harvard dudes with no common sense. Obama is just the same thing. Prestigious elite schools and some college idea of socialism and bam he is going to fix everything. There just a bunch of lawyers in a club playing. Lawyers don’t build anything.
Obam a care was a poorly written, excessively compromised 11000 page pile of crap. So many pointed out the flaws but we’re typically ignored or refuted. Now, as Hillary so often says “unforeseen consequences”. In the southwest, illegal immigration has bankrupted so many of the “county” hospitals. They have gone over to medical groups which actually charge patients.
Either a single payer system or self insure system needs to be in place. As Trump says, without restrictions or protected areas for insurers
They are going to have to do something. We need to support the elderly that worked all their lives and the truly disabled. By disabled I mean they cant even drive and be out running the roads all day. Everyone needs to be put to work. Work or starve. The limited working people cannot continue to support the lazy. We are trying to provide for our families not joe blow who sat by the pool all day and got out of bed at 10am. Democrats have got to get these people to work and quit expecting the working people to keep them up. We all have sad stories but enough is enough.
I would love to return to work part time, but I know that nobody wants to hire anyone over 60. I was forcibly retired at 58 going on 59, along with many others my age. Age discrimination is the one form still acceptable and even encouraged.
So true!! I lost my job at 60 when I got kidney disease and had to have a transplant. Now I am 63 with an accounting degree and still haven’t found a job that I am physically able to do. And medicare is not free! I pay $109 for medicare insurance, $25 for prescription insurance and $142 for a supplement.And I till need extra help for prescriptions because I an in the “donut hole” ,whatever that means, and my insulin is $1000.00 a month. So that is my “sad story” . So all you who think everyone should be working, do you have a magical solution? If so, please let me know.
Oh, I volunteer 2o hours a week while I am looking for a job. So a lot of people aren’t “sitting by the pool”. So many of these comments infuriate me!
Eliminate Obamacare and don’t replace it.
Modertor, I typed a comment in reply to the first one but it is NOT here….WHY?
The system that will work is Medicare for everyone! The Medicare tax should be increased to cover the cost. Believe me, the cost would be a lot less than the premiums, copays and huge deductibles that we have now. AND. there would be no penalty tax for the people who do not participate in it 100% of the time. Most Physicians agree, Medicare is a lot easier to deal with than the insurance companies.
The overhaul of Medicare only benefits the Insurance companies, the Pharmasudical companies. Health insurance is outrageous. There’s money for
illegal aliens, foreign aid to countries that don’t need it, money for our enemies, but for senior citizen in our own country, veterans in our own country, life
Long working class & working poor who lived here in our country all of their lives, paid taxes can just go to hell is the attitude in Washington, DC. Trump
2016.
Make obummer, Harry reid, Nancy Pelosi pay, and all the
impotent who allowed this Trojan horse
to be shoved down the throat of the American people
pay restitution and be fully charged for conspiracy and
forceful extortion, exploiting the sick and the uninformed.
Remember this sham behind closed doors was pure and
unadulterated treason to the Constitutional principles of
transparency.
Simply stated, this is a void contract for undue influence.
Another name for that is forceful extortion with the aim
to destroy Liberty.
Anything Ryan proposes is scary, does nothing for the common man, its raise the age limit of seniors, and increase salary for Congressman and increase funding for immigration illegals and undocumented workers, with Ryan is WATCH OUT TIME!
They’re calling for an “overhaul” for one reason. It will cost millions of dollars, take years to draw up, take years to get passed into law, and will create a new cadre of hangers on to suck at the federal teat. As well , the overhaul will generate untold numbers
of lawsuits (remember that all senators and many other legislators are lawyers, themselves), so there will be even more money to be made. The overhaul is unstoppable, so just keep going to work (if the job hasn’t been outsourced overseas), paying your taxes, and believing everything is going to be OK while you have your head buried in the sand.
The change to “entitlements” usually start with an unpopular program such as Obama Care. Nobody except those to whom the money goes to and those who get it free like the program.So Ryan and cronies quietly insert one tiny part saying entitlements must be revised. Here is how one (entitlement????) got to where it is now.
They need a little history lesson on what’s what and it doesn’t matter whether you are Democrat or Republican.
Facts are Facts.
Social Security Cards up until the 1980s expressly stated the number and card were not to be used for identification purposes.
Since nearly everyone in the United States now has a number, it became convenient to use it anyway and the message, NOT FOR IDENTIFICATION, was removed.
Franklin Roosevelt, a Democrat, introduced the Social Security (FICA) Program. He promised:
1.) That participation in the Program would be completely voluntary,
It went from Voluntary to Mandatory
2.) That the participants would only have to pay 1% of the first $1,400 of their annual Incomes into the Program,
It has gone up dramatically and then went on to become an entitlement.
3.) That the money the participants elected to put into the Program would be deductible from their income for tax purposes each year,
After the Congress incorporated it into their General fund it became a new tax
4.) That the money the participants put into the independent ‘Trust Fund’ rather than into the general operating fund, and therefore, would only be used to fund the Social Security Retirement Program, and no other Government program
Under Johnson the money was moved to The General Fund and Spent
5.) That the annuity payments to the retirees would never be taxed as income.
Under Clinton & Gore … Up to 85% of your Social Security can be Taxed
Since many of us have paid into FICA for years and are now receiving a Social Security check every month — and then finding that we are getting taxed on 85% of the money we paid to the Federal government to ‘put away’ –
You may be interested in the following:
Q: Which Political Party took Social Security from the independent ‘Trust Fund’ and put it into the general fund so that Congress could spend it?
A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the democratically controlled House and Senate.
Q: Which Political Party eliminated the income tax deduction for Social Security (FICA) withholding?
A: The Democratic Party.
Q: Which Political Party started taxing Social Security annuities?
A: The Democratic Party, with Al Gore casting the ‘tie-breaking’ deciding vote as President of the Senate, while he was Vice President of the US
Q: Which Political Party decided to start giving annuity payments to immigrants?
A: That’s right! It was Jimmy Carter and the Democratic Party. Immigrants moved into this country, and at age 65, began to receive Social Security payments!
The Democratic Party gave these payments to them, even though they never paid a dime into it!
Now Obama is giving it to illegal aliens (illegal is the correct word not undocumented and it is against existing law even if Obama will not enforce it)
Following up on my last post This information is what I found about aliens including illegal ones. The first paragraph says if the alien at any time becomes a charge (read dependent) on the government for help in living they cannot remain or get a visa etc.
Any alien who, in the opinion of the consular officer at the time of application for a visa, or in the opinion of the Attorney General at the time of application for admission or adjustment of status, is likely at any time to become a public charge is inadmissible.
THE PREVIOUS WORDS ARE NOT FOR EVERYONE. THE FOLLOWING ARE EXCEPTIONS TO THE RULE.
Benefits Not Subject to Public Charge Consideration
Under the agency guidance, non-cash benefits and special-purpose cash benefits that are not intended for income maintenance are not subject to public charge consideration. Such benefits include:
• Medicaid and other health insurance and health services (including public assistance for immunizations and for testing and treatment of symptoms of communicable diseases, use of health clinics, short-term rehabilitation services, prenatal care and emergency medical services) other than support for long-term institutional care
• Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP)
• Nutrition programs, including the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP)- commonly referred to as Food Stamps, the Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants and Children (WIC), the National School Lunch and School Breakfast Program, and other supplementary and emergency food assistance programs
• Housing benefits
• Child care services
• Energy assistance, such as the Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program (LIHEAP)
• Emergency disaster relief
• Foster care and adoption assistance
• Educational assistance (such as attending public school), including benefits under the Head Start Act and aid for elementary, secondary or higher education
• Job training programs
• In-kind, community-based programs, services or assistance (such as soup kitchens, crisis counseling and intervention, and short-term shelter)
• Non-cash benefits under TANF such as subsidized child care or transit subsidies
• Cash payments that have been earned, such as Title II Social Security benefits, government pensions, and veterans’ benefits, and other forms of earned benefits
• Unemployment compensation
Some of the above programs may provide cash benefits, such as energy assistance, transportation or child care benefits provided under TANF or the Child Care Development Block Grant (CCDBG), and one-time emergency payments under TANF. Since the purpose of such benefits is not for income maintenance, but rather to avoid the need for ongoing cash assistance for income maintenance, they are not subject to public charge consideration.
Note: In general, lawful permanent residents who currently possess a “green card” cannot be denied U.S. citizenship for lawfully receiving any public benefits for which they are eligible.
The fact that the GOP wants to get ride of Obama care is fine by me. But I am tired of them referring to Social Security and Medicare as entitlement programs I and every other legal citizen pay into those programs and that is why they are not entitlement programs. Welfare and Medicaid are entitlement programs no one pays into them our taxes support them. They are abused by people that think having kids and sitting on their rear entitles them to money because they don’t want to work. Welfare should be a temporary program that has a requirement of going to school to learn a skill and getting a job in a specific time frame just like unemployment. The only exception to that should be for people that are completely disabled and are unable to function without assistance.
Ryan was working on over haul of social security cut our benefits and extend the age to retire now what the hell does this terrorist have in this bill no one has read it they just sign and go the communist terrorist ryan needs to shove it
Id add:
CUT regulations impacting MDs accepting Medicare cases
CUT Medicare DC bureaucracy alone.
Merge like programs.
More online
Use phones for HC basics IE heart rate, etc.
Cut fees
Make competitive alone
Merge hospitals.
Rename Project MEDICUSA.
drop Medicare.
MEDICUSA.