Republican presidential candidate Sen. Ted Cruz had a big day yesterday, raking in primary wins in Texas, Oklahoma and Alaska.
But the best news he received may have come earlier in the day, when an Illinois judge dismissed a lawsuit claiming he was ineligible to become president.
The suit was filed in Cook County Circuit Court and argued that Cruz was ineligible to appear on the Illinois ballot. Whether Cruz, who was born in Canada to an American mother, is a “natural born citizen” as required by the Constitution has been the subject of much debate during the race for the GOP nomination.
If Cruz had lost in Illinois, it would have quickly sparked a ripple effect and similar lawsuits in other states.
But Cruz may not be out of the woods yet.
While Judge Maureen Ward Kirby tossed the case, she only did so on a technicality, which opens the possibility that the lawsuit could be refiled — likely at a politically convenient moment, some political analysts warn.
Kirby says the suburban Chicago attorney who filed the complaint, Lawrence Joyce, failed to give a copy of it to Cruz or state electoral board members, as required by Illinois law. Instead, Joyce served only lawyers representing Cruz and the board.
Joyce admitted that he’ll decide whether to appeal after seeing how Cruz fares in the primaries.
The Associated Press contributed to this article.
Cruz: Rafael Edward Cruz. Was not born in US and should not be able to run. Rubio the same thing born to two illegals.
Could not be spelled out any clearer in the Constitution – Must be Natural Born, (On the land and by two parents that are Citizens at the time )
Lol ! Obama’s dad was Kenyon who was thrown out of college and deported for suspicious of spying for Russia. Please !
Obama was born in Kenya, as attested to by his grandmother, who said she visited him at his birth in the Kenya hospital. That still didn’t keep him from being illegally elected. Corruption is so wide spread in this country that Honest people don’t have a chance.
Even if he were born in Hawaii as claimed he only had one parent who “may” have been a citizen at the time but not meeting other criteria so he was not eligible anyway.
That’s because the honest and lazy people of the masses could care less who is in the White House as long as they have beer, football, fat food and a naked woman in the bedroom. That’s pretty much the mentality of Americans…..young or old, pretty or ugly, genius or imbecile. Pretty little girls will not know anything about their country as well as the stupid little boys who will go die for the country. Old people are pretty much beaten with their life struggles brought about the tyranny they failed to beat. Genius’ will be the traitors who will always take the side that will keep them from being decapitated or thrown to the curb. Imbeciles — what can I say? They are the ones who work their fingers to the bones while watching their country be annihilated and overrun as they drink their beers, eat their fat foods, pound the old lady in the bedrooms while they belch from the guts as they have made it just one more day to live just one more uncaring freeloader lifestyle.
RE-FILE THE LAWSUIT…. IN ALL THE REMAINING STATES!
The 14th Amendment, Section 1 is clear, but many keep re-interpreting the Constitution to their advantage… THIS IS WHERE WE WILL MISS THE HONORABLE JUDGE ANTONIN SCALIA. An originalist jurist.
You’ve got that right!
Obama lied also in Ill. by saying he had never used another name. In college in Ca. he had a different name. He lied when he took the oath in Ill. His election was rigged. And he was NOT born in Hawaii!!!
I agree about Cruz and Rubio but why has it come so far. A true American citizen and a Christian do not have a chance in this corrupt country.
Concur 1000 percent……
While Republican candidates Cruz and Rubio are working to tear their Party apart, fighting against the will of the Republican Party voters, the Clinton’s don’t need to – but they do while laughing at Rubio and Cruz doing the dirty work against Trump. Why don’t Rubio and Cruz go join their own Party (Democratic) and run against the Clinton’s, since they are not able to as Republicans? In the Democratic Party they have Super Delegates that no one votes for – bullies that run the Party. Republicans want to – and have the right to – vote for their own candidate!
Because they forged his birth certificate which showed he was born in Hawaii. You know and I know that what you are saying is true but for some reason they could not prove it. He never should have been our President. Both his parents were not U.S. born also. but for some reason he should never even been allowed to run. Plus I might add he is and was the worse President we ever had.
Everyone in Washington knows but refuse to do anything. CRUZ and Rubio are banking that no one will do anything about it. Democrats and Republicians are joining and trying to control all the Americans by not doing anything but living off our money. That is the fight Trump is trying to do and trying to help this country to stop all the Rinos and Demos from stealing our money, land, life and making sure we all have no job.
They have to be taken out. IF WE DON’T GET TRUMP IN THE WHITEHOUSE WASHINGTON WILL RUIN OUR COUNTRY AND OUR CHILDREN’S LIVES.
Shirley, put down the Kool-aid. Trump is here for Trump. In the most recent poll, Trump is the only Republican candidate that looses to Clinton. He uses the same tactics as the jerk we have now. He has touched you emotionally like a good community organizer. Did you see the all Trump debate where video of Trump contradicts everything he says with his own words? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpKiP_gmDS8
Shirley: you said it all beautifully and are so correct. By the Democrats putting Obama on their ballot to run for the presidency in 2008 (they have had to have known he was not born in this country) but they continued to pass him off as a citizen………that was the only way they could hold on to the control of this country and it’s people.. It is not hard at all to do research on that subject………that was what I did and had better sense to not vote for someone like that. Also I realized pretty quick from his speeches in his campaign that he was the most arrogant person I had ever listened to. I was always taught to not take seriously all the promises they are making (from any politician because it more then likely will never happen) they are after your vote and are just running for an office and will not be able to keep those promises………even if they should win.
The fact that both parents must be citizens is inferred in the constitution.
In the Cruz case I learned that both his parents were registered to vote in Canada at the time of his birth!!
In the Rubio case I learned that both his parents were not citizens at the time of his birth in Florida!!
Read it yourself, it specifically says, must have “one parent” who was born on the land!
Where does it state there must be “one parent” who was born on the land? There are court cases and history that the president must be born in this country, which Cruz was not!!!
The Immigration and Nationality Act, which became law in December, 1952, and is still current U.S. law, defines “natural born citizen” as a person who is the child of a citizen father or a citizen mother, and who has resided in the United States for five continuous years between 14 and 28 years of age.
In addition, the Supreme Court has ruled several times on the statutes that have defined “natural born citizen” over the years and has never struck down the definition nor questioned Congress’ authority to define the term.
Trump, who knows better, brought up Cruz’ birthplace every chance he got until other people took up the rhetoric, all the while claiming he was not calling Ted on it. That’s disingenuous at best. But then Trump has always been for Trump, first for money with his casinos, then for fame with his TV show, and now for power.
In addition, the majority of polls (i.e., questions asked of people like you) clearly show that, if Trump is nominated, Hillary wins. But if Cruz is nominated, Cruz wins.
So the real question is: Who would be a better President, Hillary or Cruz?
And the next question is: Are you willing to put the country first? Or will you support your guy all the way to a defeat which will be the defeat of our nation?
Cruz wasn’t even eligible to run for the senate since he was still a Canadian citizen until 2014.
Nothing in the Constitution says that. The only issue is what actually clarifies what a “natural born citizen” means. It’s never been in the courts for a clarification.
See my post below.
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First, you’re right; the Constitution does not define the words “natural born.” Apparently, the writers assumed it was already settled by Vattel, who wrote in his Law of Nations that in ANY country, “natural born” status is conveyed by the parents BOTH being Citizens of the country of birth.
However, the First Congress, Second Session, realized a need to define the phrase, and did so, along with making law(that’s their job, you know) which says that – in agreement with Vattel – to have “natural born” status, BOTH parents must be Citizens, and it didn’t matter where the child was born, either. They also made exceptions for those born prior to the Revolution, too, but those obviously no longer apply.
In addition, there were at least 3 SCOTUS decisions which verified the aforementioned law Congress made and which also agreed with Vattel’s Law of Nations definition.
But what usually happens in cases like these is that the judge tosses them on the grounds that the individual has “no standing” in law to file suit for a Constitutional breach, e.g.:
“But, indeed, NO PRIVATE PERSON has a right to complain, by suit in court, on the ground of a breach of the Constitution. The Constitution it is true, is a compact, but he is not a party to it. The States are the parties to it. And they may complain. If they do, they are entitled to redress. Or they may waive the right to complain. ”
Padelford, Fay & Co., vs. Mayor and Aldermen of the City of Savannah 14 Ga. 438, 520
So if it becomes necessary, it appears that what will have to happen is that some State – any State, but i prefer the “Live Free or Die” State, New Hampshire(iirc) – is petitioned for redress by a LOT of Citizens, to the point where STATE legislators file suit for the Constitutional breach.
Had this been done during the run-up to either D’ohbama election, he’d be “hoping” for “change” on some sidewalk in Chicago by now.
Nope it doesn’t say that. Parents plural. Read it again.
You both need to read the supreme court case of minor v hammersett where it says in the text that for you to be natural born here both of your parents at the time of your birth must be citizens of this country.Look it up for your selves.
You are correct. CRUZ and Rubio are illegal and must be taken out of the race. They can not run for president of this country.
Where does the Constitution state that natural born means two citizen parents or born on American soil?
They knew what it meant then. You can also find it in the case of Minor v Happerset, 88 US 162, 167 (1874), which states: “At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.”
It doesn’t it says one parent mainly the father has to be born in the United States. Neither of Rubio were born here. CRUZ father is Cuban and Canadian. Mother give up her Citizenship.
“Natural Born” is not defined in the Constitution! Most Constitutional scholars interpret it to mean “citizen at birth”. Cruz clearly qualified under that standard.
Dick-
“Most Constitutional scholars” are wrong, then.
Just google “natural born,” and look for references to the First Congress, second session.
It’s easy enough to do, and there’s no need whatsoever for some alleged “expert” to do your thinking for you.
And thanks to the poster who supplied the “Minor v Happersett” SCOTUS reference, too; back then, SCOTUS ruled according to the Law as it was, not via their whims or “interpretations” of it.
IIRC, there are at least 2 more SCOTUS decisions which reference the “2 parents Citizens = natural born” issue, at least one of them AFTER the (alleged) ratification of the 14th Amendment, too.
And while you’re googling, look up “Vattel Law of Nations,” as well – then search the contents for “natural born.” This book was published roughly 20 years before the Constitution was ratified, and is likely the source of the First Congress’ Second Session law-making, since at least one of the aforementioned SCOTUS decisions actually MENTIONS Vattel in their ruling, iirc.
The Immigration and Nationality Act, which became law in December, 1952, and is still current U.S. law, defines “natural born citizen” as a person who is the child of a citizen father or a citizen mother, and who has resided in the United States for five continuous years between 14 and 28 years of age.
The Minor v Happersett decision happened before 1952. The Supreme Court has ruled several times on the statutes that have defined “natural born citizen” and has never struck down the definition nor questioned Congress’ authority to define the term.
We can go by whim. Or we can go by foreign law (the Law of Nations). Or we can go by overridden law. Or we can go by current law.
Any way you look at it, the choice comes down to Hillary or Cruz. The polls show clearly that if Trump is nominated, Hillary wins. But if Cruz is nominated, Cruz wins.
What do you want for our country for the next 8 years or more?
Since the USC does not itself define a specific term (such as ‘income,’ or ‘natural born,’ or ‘person,’ or ‘state’ orany other word of controversial meaning) the definition must be taken from the common usage of that term at the time it was written. Congress is not empowered to define any term used in the USC. You should take special note of this fact because redefining words is one of the methods used by governments thru history to glean power to themselves. Ever wonder why the word ‘income’ is not defined in the Internal Revenue Code? Possibly because they want you to think something that benefits them?
Except he was a citzen of Canada. The dual citizenship may be a disqualified. Rubio’s parents were political refugees at the time of his birth, making him am anchor baby!
Then again neither Cruz was born in the USA and Rubio was not born in the USA.
You are not a “citizen at birth” unless you are born in the USA. There different requirements, depending both parents being citizens, Mother being a citizen, Father being a citizen. Than the parents or parent can give their offspring citizenship. Let the courts decide if citizenship was transferred to their offspring.
Time to put this issue to rest. “A technicality” ? Really? Well, re-file the damn thing !!
AND DO IT NOW !! Cruz is a slimy snake.
Bible says “what you call others, you are guilty of the same thing”
That is the most erroneous claim I have ever heard!!! Christians are required to call out other Christians for unchristian like behavior! That’s why preachers, ministers & priests call other Christians out for their bad deeds or behavior.
Well if this is the case then why did the liberals let Barack back on the ballot twice and no one and I mean No one has ever proved that Barack Obama was born in the U.S. and he secured three attorneys for a million dollars a year to keep all of his records hidden
The definition of : “Natural Born”, was beaten into me, as a child, by my parents and the ‘kind, gentle and loving’ nuns in a Catholic grade school. The term means that both the mother and father of the child, at the time of it’s birth, must be citizens of the USA .
OOPS, DON’T HIT ME!!! I ment to say, ‘United States of America’, not ‘USA’. Them nuns were Tough!
I repeat and stress, BOTH the Mother and Father MUST be citizens of the United States of America at the TIME of the child’s birth for it to be considered a Natural Born citizen.
This means mommy and daddy have to be United State citizens ON the day you were BORN. Not because they were the week before they moved and became Indonesian citizens and you were born. Even if the birth was on United States soil, neither parent was an American citizen at the time of the birth and the child an alien. Nor does it make one a Natural Born citizen if mommy and daddy become American citizens after you are born. The child would be an alien until all paperwork AND fees are paid.
Why did you not come out and express this when Obama was running? Where you and all these who are so fighting against Cruz when Obama was running? AGAIN I say, ALL these is NOT about citizen or not citizen, it’s about Christians verses none Christians.
Actually you are wrong — you can be born out of this country with at least one parent who is a US citizen who had lived in the US at least 2 years before the birth. Romney was born in Mexico — but his parents were US citizens and were Morman missionaries at the time. And that fact IS in the constitution.
The requirements for” acquisition of US citizenship by a child born abroad” have different requirements depending when the child was born. In Cruz case the mother had to be an adult ( 21 yrs ) of age and lived 5yrs in the USA before giving birth and returned to the USA by the 14th birthday and lived 5 yrs in the USA. This simply means that the parents have a right to give their child citizenship but after the age of 21 the child must decide which country he will be a citizen, he does not automatically become a US citizen
Kathy, Cruz COULD have been eligible, even being born in Canada, IF both of his parents were American citizens. They were not, so he is not eligible. However, the courts, some out of ignorance, some knowing but not caring, are unlikely to disqualify him.
Vote4an American, Yes, the Constitution says a person must be a Natural Born citizen (born to two parents who are BOTH citizens at that time., to run for President. But nowhere does it say he must be born here – in the US. If both parents were US citizens, it wouldn’t matter where he was born; he would still be a Natural Born citizen. If YOUR parents were both American citizens, and while on vacation in China, you were born, YOU would still be a Natural Born citizen. For example, Rubio: Neither of his parents were American citizens when he was born; they became naturalized citizens after. NOT qualified. But, as with Cruz,, the courts are not likely to disqualify him.
It saddens me deeply, that Obama’s refusal to prove he is a Natural Born citizen, or even just a citizen, was illegally protected by the courts, and Congress refused to institute a formal inquiry; the media also assisted. Both birth certificates submitted by Obama, to prove he was born here, were proven beyond any doubt to be fraudulent (supposed) “copies” of originals, but were created piece by piece on a computer. His Social Security card is not valid. It was issued in Connecticut, where Obama never lived or worked, to a man born in the 1800s.The reason it saddens me is because it opened the floodgates of fraud in our election process. Now, both political parties ignore the qualifications written in the Constitution, knowing that , if challenged, the courts will wiggle out of finding in the plaintiff’s favor, or just throw it out. This is only happening because Obama was allowed to get away with it.
Some people don’t know what they are talking about!
YOU ARE WRONG! Not necessary to be born ‘on the land’ as you stated — If I (born in the U.S.A.) and was pregnant and on a trip to Europe or Canada and had my baby there, he or she would be a U.S. citizen. Take a class in an accredited college on the Constitution before you make another stupid remark!
Yes, your baby WOULD be a citizen.. But NOT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN. Natural Born means that it’s “Natural” without need to file papers or naturalize papers. If you must file naturalization papers with a US Embassy or Territory then you are not Natural.
I have a Masters in Psyche that says here, you are the one without an education. toodles.
Wrong, the parent must file the paper work to change the birth certificate to USA otherwise he is not a citizen because the did parents not give him the USA citizenship.
The constitution does not state a candidate for President must be born on US soil or that both parents must be citizens. Court precedence shows that being born a citizen at birth whether by a US citizen on foreign soil or being born on US soil is the only qualification for being a natural born citizen. Natural born means born a citizen which is completely different from being naturalized which means you become a citizen after your birth.
It’s very simple. Even a Trump supporter can probably understand it.
WHAT IS obama’s EXCUSE? THIS IS LUDICROUS!!!
You are one of the few that believe what I believe. Yes he is a U.S. citizen because his mom was one but because he was born in Canada, he is not a natural born citizen. When I went to school in the 9th grade Civics class I had it drilled into our heads that both parents were to be born in the U.S. also. but for some reason it does not read that anymore but at least for sure he must be born in the U.S. not just because he lived her for more than a year. If his mom worked for the U.S. government or was on a U.S military base or U.S. territory such as the Panama Canal he would have been Natural Born but non of those apply to him so he is not Natural Born for sure. America needs to wake up. Why it got changed is beyond me. No one was suppose to change the original Declaration of Independence or Constitution but they do or did??
Under current law, defining who is an American citizen, half of South Vietnam’s people’s, born of the 11 year war from over zealous American soldiers and registered births with the then SVD government and three generations since then are Americans, and if you carry the word of law all the way from WWI WWIi Korea Vietnam Iraq Afghanistan and many more nations about 1/8th world is American.
Kathy Walker: Cruz’ mother is a U.S. citizen, so that makes him a citizen at birth.
Kathy what most people do not realize is that Canada did NOT recognize dual citizenship until after Cruz was born i DON’T REMEMBER THE YEAR. So according to that the child is recognized as a Canadian citizen. He HAD DUAL CITZENSHIP until I believe 4 years ago when he denounced the Canadian citizenship. What FOOL doesn’t know he has more than one citizenship all of his life THAT is the problem Cruz never seems to know what is going on.
If Cruz is a natural born citizen, then why did the supreme court approve a law that was passed in 1986 allowing military children born overseas natural born citizenship? Cruz was born in 1970 and that law does not include children born before 1986.
Observant question.
Cruz can be a citizen as long as one parent is an American Citizen, but qualification for President requires a higher standard, To qualify for President the person must be “natural born”, which born in the U.S..
Exceptions are made for military children born overseas.
At the time of Cruz’s birth, both of his parents were registered to vote as Canadians, so although his mother was born in the U.S. she must have done something, such as renounce her American citizenship, to be able to vote for Canadian candidates.
Cruz’s mother NEVER renounced U.S.citizenship, NEVER had dual citizenship, and was NEVER able to vote in Canada.
None of that ever happened. They were on a Census List just like the US does every so many years but this family was only in Canada on a temporary work release ony. They owned some of type of seismic company working with the Canadian government.
You may be correct if you can prove that Cruz’s mom was a registered voter/citizen of Canada. What I read, does not rise to that level and states that his mother was listed on voter rolls, much like our census, which is by address, not actual registration. The Cruz Campaign has stated that his mother was in Canada on a “Work Permit”, only! Personally, I do not believe Cruz, Rubio, or Jindal are eligible under The Constitution as written and intended, by our founders, but may be under current law, that has not been ruled upon by our Supreme Court and if another terrible precedence is set… they may never take it up. Trump’s mom was born in Scotland and I do not know if she was a citizen at his birth. It matters little, as we are screwed, now! Conservatives lose, again! We need a Constitutional Conservative Party!
The problem with Cruz citizenship is that no one really verified him or his family. That is why all the question about his citizenship continue. Also the requirements can be interpreted differently which leads to more question. Its time that this should be resolved by the Supreme Court, because they have the final say, unless congress decides to pass a new law clarifying the requirements
The law you are citing is for American citizen families on Military bases outside the USA who give birth while stationed on that base.
I have 2 children that were born in Japan, on a military base. We were told that we would have to get naturalization papers for them when got back to the states. We did this, but the gov’t said they would not be eligible for that office which we speak. This was in the 60’s.
So I guess it depends on your station in life. Or how much money you have, as to whether the law applies to you. In my own mind, I think and believe we are living with an usurper in our House.
It was my understanding that military bases on foreign soil are held to be the ground of the country of that military much like embassies. That is why generally speaking that crimes committed on those facilities are not prosecuted by the host countries. If any one knows for a fact differently, please cite me the example so that I may stand corrected.
Walt, you can clearly see from the posts here that there is a wealth of confusion about this issue that extends even to government officials. However, according to the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952, if you were a U.S. citizen when your children were born, and if they lived in the U.S. for five continuous years between 14 and 28 years of age, they are natural born citizens.
No it does not. He has to be born in the country, not Canada or any other place. You need to read court cases about this and history.
I STILL SAY THAT THEY ALLOWED obama to run and win 2 terms and he was born in Kenya, Africa. His grandmother swears that she watched him be born in Africa. They NEVER vetted obama and he paid millions of dollars to hide EVERYTHING about himself. This is just not right !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
True, a citizen at birth, but not a Natural BORN Citizen! That requires two parents, both U. S. Citizens at the time he was born! That means that his parents themselves could be Naturalized Americans at the time he was born and he would be a Natural Born Citizen.
Realize this important FACT, one may be a Naturalized Citizen or a Natural Citizen (1 parent) and still legally hold any government office, Senate, Congress, Judge! Just not President or VP. The Founding Fathers wrote that on purpose, as an attempt to assume all P and VP’s allegiances would be with America and not some other country.
BHO is THE perfect example of what happens when that requirement fails to be implemented. His allegiances obviously were not in America’s best interest, but rather in his muslim affiliations.
You people keep posting this crap like two parents being citizens, but none of you can show where it’s found in the Constitution.
They knew what it meant then. You can also find it in the case of Minor v Happerset, 88 US 162, 167 (1874), which states: “At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.”
The Constitution is not a dictionary. Ever try research? Obviously not. Try the Federalist Papers and you will be in the heads of the founding fathers and what their intensions were on total loyalty to a country. You need any education on the Supreme Law of the Land, dearie; our country is in jeopardy and you need to know these things!
Dear Weary: The intent of our founders is not crap! I have taken a course in The Constitution and a separate course on The Federalist Papers, free on-line from Hillsdale College and during the time our Constitution was being written, there were no “C Section” births, only Native Birth, which meant the place of actual birth and Foreign Birth, which meant born somewhere else, then Natural Birth, which meant born on terra firma of citizen parents. Please note that “parents” is plural. Those of unknown parentage need not apply. These definitions were in wide use at the time, which can be easily confirmed in the Federalist Papers (letters between the authors of our Constitution. Additionally six volumes of Vattel’s, The Laws of Nations was used extensively in the preparation of The Constitution and the condition of birth term are described in detail. Our Congress makes laws, The President signs them into Law and the Supreme Court decides if the laws, so passed, coincide with the intent of Constitution as it was written and/or amended, only as prescribed, therein.
How can Cruz met the qualifications when he was born in Canada? He had to be born in this country!!!
He doesn’t! And what’s worse, he knows it! Citizen PARENTS equal a NATURAL BORN Citizen.
Yes he knows it and his Law Professor told him he’s wrong. He has disqualified himself from this part of the Constitution and applies it to everyone else.
Obviously, he didn’t! I really like him as my Senator, much better than our career RINO Cornyn, but while he may be legal on current (uncontested) Federal Law, he most definitely is not Constitutionally qualified, neither is Rubio, nor was Obama, who is a great example of why our founders did not approve of dual citizenship and divided loyalties. I detest the narcissist Trump, that will not tolerate an opposing view to his own… we have had enough of that! I voted for Ben Carson, but it doesn’t look like he has a shot, anymore and will go the way of Huckabee, Fiorina, and Paul. What we are left with is “Establishment Crap” and Republicrat Bozo Trump!
It may make him a citizen, but it does not make him a NATURAL BORN Citizen.
BIG difference !!
Allen-
You’re right; Cruz is a citizen(small c) but only a 14th Amendment federal citizen, not a “natural born” one.
Cruz mother gave up her citiaenship. He is not legal. CRUZ was born in Canada and has one birth certificateb in Canada
yes a citizen but not a Natural Born one. She was not on a U.S. military base or U.S. territory and was not working for the U.S. government.
Oh yes, Kathy walker was born to two illegals, who were deported back to mexico, just cause she was born on american soil doesn’t make her a citizens under constitution.
It’s not that run was born in Canada that makes him ineligible it is that fact that he did not and does not have TWO AMERICAN CITIZEN PARENTS which is required to be a Natural Born Citizen! If this attorney does not refine it will leave the door open for future Constitution trampling morons to run for President! We have to nip this in the Butt now, for all times sake.
Obama broke those laws already ! His father wasn’t from America. Just his mom. Obviously you need to learn who believes in the constitution and who doesn’t. Cruz wants to bring back the constitution and make people obey it. That’s why the democratic socialist must go !!
Obama did not have two American citizen parents.
Assuming you’re NO PART of these nefarious miscreants hell-bent to total annihilation of these unted State of American, the Republic, be aware; there STILL IS an hierarchy law structure in this country, emanating with our Creator Elohyim (IN [the Triune] God We Trust) > His Mosaic Law (premises’ & principles’ of which, substantiate) > Vattel’s Law of Nations, upon which Jefferson drew for essence of supreme International sovereign authority of governance, as he so decreed within our Declaration of Independence, Preamble, which cites authority and synopsis of cause for whatever a subsequent document is created, to wit: “…to assume among the powers (other Nations) of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them,”!!!
Then, in the later 1787 “Convention to create amendments to the Articles of Confederation”, which furtively became the Constitution Convention; Madison, et. al. in constructing Congressional Powers, detailed within our U.S. Constitution, Article I, Section 8, wherein Clauses “[1] The Congress shall have the Power … [9] To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court; [10] To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations;” then; once more “the Law of Nations” is brought to bear, this time within Article II, Section 1, Clause [5] with its “natural born Citizen” (nbC) MANDATE in order to HOLD office of President of the United States – naturally, as well for V.P. … Now. Common scene would ask:
How does Vattel define “natural born Citizen” in his work? … Answer:
“The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens.”
SO: GIVEN; you can read and comprehend those 17-words of plain English language: You, as an American Polygarchy Sovereign of these 50-several united States of America are legal expert on nbC meaning!!!
DON’T BE SUCKED INTO THIS NEFARIOUS COLOR OF LAW VORTEX OF CONFUSION BEING CREATED TO a) OBFUSCATE the succinctly defined Supreme Law of this Land, in deference to INFERIOR Statutory words of art definitions, in order to; b) insert a FINAL bought & paid for concatenation of these past SEVEN-ADMINISTRATIONS – FROM G.H.W.B., 41ST TO PRESENT – EFFECTING TPTB COUP DE GRÁCE UPON THIS Republic, MANKIND’S MOST UNIQUE FORM OF GOVERNANCE IN HISTORY!!!! … In Short:
Despite the ruling or opinion of ANY SINGULAR OR GROUP of these LEGAL entities you’ve cited, EVEN not yet know; Constitutional Natural Law hierarchy STATUS DICTATES ANYTHING LESS THAN ARTICLE V AMENDMENT PROCESS, OR SCOTUS OPINION, IS INFERIOR RULING OR LAW IN THIS MATTER. ERGO:
ALL Presidential and Vice-Presidential candidates SHALL BE BORN ON the Land of United States territory, OF BOTH U.S. American Citizen PARENTS-PERIOD!!! i.e. NO CRUZ, NO RUBIO, NO JINDAL, NO HELEY!!!!
SO, HOW DID OBAMA BECOME PRESIDENT? THAT SHOULD SERVE AS A PRECEDENT.
Corrupt, bought & paid for Congress who allowed this. Can also fault those traitors who endorsed and vetted him, DNC Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Shutlz and Congresswoman Nancy PeLOUSIE, respectively, and the Soros controlled MSM (main stream media). The DC Sewer is very corrupt and not enough citizens will rise to the call of duty to rally behind their Sheriff’s (after educating them to their Constitutional duties and power) to throw off this rogue fascist government and reinstate the supreme law of the land, the Constitution for the united States of America! That’s what’s happening. Care to join in the crusade????? Get educated and join the patriots already fighting the battle in all 50 states, 3000+ counties.
By lying – A LOT!
CBellue-
i have read the Constitution many, many, MANY times; i have never yet seen any part of it which says “Oh, yeah, and if you can establish a precedent, then that trumps the Supreme Law of the Land.”
D’ohbama reached and maintained his “presidency” by Fraud, plain and simple.
Multiple lawsuits were filed over this issue, the vast majority of them tossed because NO Individual has “standing” to sue for a breach of the Constitution, because only the States and the Federal government are parties to the Constitution. What those filing suit SHOULD have done was publicize the information, get signed Petitions together, raised the issue before the State in which they live, and pressure THEM to file suit. See here:
“But, indeed, NO PRIVATE PERSON has a right to complain, by suit in court, on the ground of a breach of the Constitution. The Constitution it is true, is a compact, but he is not a party to it. The States are the parties to it. And they may complain. If they do, they are entitled to redress. Or they may waive the right to complain. ”
Padelford, Fay & Co., vs. Mayor and Aldermen of the City of Savannah 14 Ga. 438, 520
This “petitioning for redress of grievances” may still happen, if it looks like Cruz has any hope of winning the nomination – or the presidency, either.
Too many Americans were ignorant the last 2 times; far more Americans have woken up, nowadays.
The only hope that any have who claim that “one Citizen parent” suffices for authorizing the candidate to become president has is this:
Search federal law, specifically the CFR(Code of Federal Regulations) which contains implementation instructions and definitions. Find any place where the phrase “natural born” has been re-defined from what Congress originally defined it.
If you cannot, then you must concede that the phrase “natural born” means now what it meant then – and come to the next logical conclusion:
D’ohbama, alleged “Constitutional Scholar,” knew full well when he ran and took office the FIRST time that he was ineligible, ergo primae facie evidence exists to convict him of Fraud – and, no doubt, several other charges including but not limited to Felony Perjury for lying under oath.
Yes, and Obama serve NOT one term BUT TWO! How convenient that now all these patriots are coming out of the woodwork to remind the USA of our constitution, Where were they when Obama was running those two terms, were they behind him supporting him? HUUUMM!
See also Minor v Happerset, 88 US 162, 167 (1874), which states: “At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.”
Where does it say TWO parents?
How do you explain President Obama? His father was never an American citizen. John McCain was not born on American soil and neither was Mitt Romney. And I guess that means that children born out of the US to American citizens are not natural born citizens the way you are explaining it. In the Constitution it states one parent must be a US citizen. Look it up, it”s easy to find.
Please site the Article and section where this is stated. I have read the US Constitution and I don’t see it written there. Prove your statement.
I’ve never seen it either, nor have I ever seen ANY other definition of the term natural born.
Read the Federalist Papers, Weary! You and Sal, want someone else to educate you, but you cannot wait to refute their source material. The Federalist papers (letters between the authors of The Constitution) and Vattel’s Laws Of Nations. The Supreme Court’s job is to determine what the founders intended by what they put in the Constitution, as written and/or amended, as prescribed, therein. Will you next ask for a definition of “IS”?
Well, actually the founders requirement of “Natural Birth” does by their understanding of the term requires birth of US citizen parents, on U.S. terra firma, or territory under the protection/control of the US Govt.
Note: Parents is plural. * (Those of questionable birth need not apply.)
* My unauthorized addition.
AGAIN I SAY…WHAT ABOUT obama??? HIS MOTHER WAS BORN IN KANSAS. WHERE WAS HIS FATHER BORN? CERTAINLY NOT IN THE USA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just do not understand why people did not fight harder to get Obama thrown out. I’ll take a Canadian over a muslim terrorist anyday. Why can’t we have a constitution amendment that really spells out who can run for president or be president. I also believe they need to have military experience. Ok, I know just throwing my 2 cents in.
I could not agree more but for some reason when you try and look it up that part is nowhere to be found. What you are saying is what I learned many years ago in the 9th grade of school. Plus they had a certain number of years that either they or the child must have been here for a certain number of years. I think it was 14 but not 100% sure of that.
Cruz mom is a natural born citizen. We went over this with Obama for 8 years. We couldn’t get a socialist, that has a secret college record, and a social security # out of CT; thrown out of office, what makes you think you can throw out a true American that believes in our laws. I question who you are ?
They keep saying that Cruz mother is a american citizen but never say how long was she living in Canada and if she has become a Canadian Citizen either and He still is not Illegibal to run and looks like they could let him still run and maybe come president too and You Know something could happen to Trump before the real election Period and Ted and Rubio is not illegibal to run and Clinton should be in Jail now Period
Let’s ask King Obama how he did it.
LET’S NOT ASK THE ILLEGAL MUSLIM, MURDERER AND LIAR IN CHIEF!!!!!!!!!!!!! HE ONLY KNOWS HOW TO LIE WITH EVERY WORD COMING OUT OF HIS LYING STINKING MOUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
She was not a Canddian citizen. And she met the qualifications in the constitution that allowed him to be a natural born citizen.
In addition, John McCain was born in Panama. The Senate made a resolution that stated he was a natural born US citizen So, how can they say Cruz is not?
CB, you are so out of your element. McCain’s father was stationed in Panama and lived on the US military base with his wife when McCain was born. That’s why he qualified. There are publications that claim Cruz’s mother became a Canadian citizen, as his dad when Cruz was born. Canada claims him as theirs and his mother never notified the USA of his birth. If in fact she never became a Canadian, Cruz is still ineligible as his dad, a Cuban refugee became a Canadian citizen, and never became an American until 2005 (I think 05)! Big difference.
McCain was born to military PARENTS in Panama.
CBellue-
Here’s how: both of McCain’s parents were Citizens at the time of his birth. In addition, foreign military bases are considered to be American soil. This complies with the First Congress’ second session ruling, as well as at least 3 subsequent SCOTUS decisions, as well as Vattel’s Law of Nations.
There is a distinction between a 14th-amendment (small c) citizen and a Natural Born Citizen. There are other types of Citizenship, as well, like “naturalized,” which comes after citizenship is granted to a foreigner who has come here and passed the tests, as well as taken an oath. NO “naturalized citizens,” like Schwartzenegger, are eligible to run – because they’re not “natural born.” Like Rubio.
Now, if Rubio or Cruz’s WIFE are citizens at the time of their CHILDREN’s births, then their CHILDREN are indeed “natural born.” Why? Both parents were citizens at the time. BOTH, that is. That’s the Law.
If you disagree, find anywhere that the words “natural born” have been re-defined to mean “only one parent need be a citizen at the time of birth.” i won’t hold my breath…and i’d recommend you do likewise.
Cbellue, The Senate and House of Representatives pass laws, The Pres. signs them into Law and it is the duty of The Supreme Court and only The Supreme Court to interpret what the founders meant in the Constitution, as it was written and/or amended and ratified. Cruz and Rubio may be eligible under current law, but not withstand Constitutional scrutiny by the only entity authorized to make the final decision, short of a Constitutional Amendment and a most difficult ratification process.
Look it up. She was ALWAYS an American citizen; NEVER a Canadian citizen, and NEVER held dual citizenship.
So we are saying that Rubio and Cruz should not be eligible but Obama has yet to show he was born in the USA and in fact has a social security number belonging to a dead man, is President. Something is wrong with this picture. And now he and his party is trying to pass a bill to allow illegals to vote?
For that matter, we have no reason to believe obama is a citizen even today.
See what happens when We The People, who are suppose to be in control, do nothing to a FRAUD that is in our Oval Office…the crapola just gets deeper. Both political parties are traitors and are helping to perpetrate these treasonous actions against We The People and America’s sovereignty. If the American citizenry does not stand up in this election and DEMAND accountability (Obama prosecuted for fraud and all his crimes against the country and people, and Hillary for all her criminal activities, stand down orders getting 4 Americans killed, and subjecting our national security to be hacked by foreign governments on her unsecured email server, then it will get worse because The People are giving the criminals a free pass!
Allow me to quote a line from the letter I received from U.S. Senator Rand Paul….
“I believe that the federal government should recognize and respect one authority, and one authority alone: the United States Constitution.”
More and more public officials in this country have ignored the Constitution of the United States, and this includes those who sit on the judicial bench whose bad habit has evolved to misinterpret the nation’s sacred document we call; the United States Constitution.
Although U.S. Senator Ted Cruz is a good person, he still remains as ineligible to run for President of the United States. Unlike the tyrant occupying the White House, the foreign-born illegal alien Muslim communist agent Saboteur Barack Hussein Obama II should never have occupied the White House as he is in fact a foreign-born agent, and was never a legal citizen of the United States, for which, our courts and members of both U.S. House have completely ignored while the foreign-born tyrant continues to desecrate our Constitution, and allow him to rule over our sovereign Republic of the United States of America as a dictator. Anyone who fails to see this is a complete idiot just like those who support America’s notorious criminal number one, Mrs. Hillary Rodham Clinton.
Where has our nation’s honor and moral values gone to ?
MSGT JOHN CORREA
USAF (RET)
Bravo!!!
MSgt. John Correa, Thank you for this post! I have been trying to talk to family, friends and people in my town about this very situation and it seems there is such apathy that one can become discouraged very quickly. I whole heartedly believe Rubio, Cruz, Jindal, and others are definitely not natural born citizens as is stated in our Consitution. However, I still have hope that God will prevail and take steps to prevent the two ineligible candidates from participating in this election, as well as Hillary Clinton. I can’t imagine why the FBI has not already indicted her; they tarred and feathered General Patraeus rather quickly.
When one sees the many people who voted and will possibly vote for Hillary Clinton it says volumes about their integrity. Those people condone lying, stealing votes or voter fraud, and cheating. When you condone that kind of life style, you are one of them.
“Birds of a feather flock together!” One can only imagine where she will take our country (a third world society) if she is elected president. Corruption begets corruption.
I am with MSGT….. stupid is as stupid does!!! We need to take our country back before there is not turning back from any of this!!!! Obamavomit has already taken our SS benefits that we’ve paid in all our lives and given it to Iran …. where does that leave us and our HARD EARNED MONEY WHEN WE RETIRE!!!! Wake up people!
Thank you, Master Sargent! The only discrepancy, that I could find, in what you wrote, was you ended with the preposition “to”, which in fact is redundant, but I salute you… you do, indeed, cut through all of the crap!
God bless and carry on!
Despite all the adamant comments to the contrary, our country cannot be ruled by personal opinions, foreign law, or superseded law. Constitutional rule of law is what this election is all about!
The Immigration and Nationality Act, which became law in December, 1952, and is still current U.S. law, defines “natural born citizen” as a person who is the child of a citizen father or a citizen mother, and who has resided in the United States for five continuous years between 14 and 28 years of age.
In addition, the Supreme Court has ruled several times on the statutes that have defined “natural born citizen” over the years and has never struck down the definition nor questioned Congress’ authority to define the term.
The polls clearly show that if Trump is nominated, Hillary wins. And if Cruz is nominated, Cruz wins. This election boils down to Cruz or Hillary. So the question is: Are you willing to give up your personal opinions for the good of your country?
“Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country.”
– President John F. Kennedy
Both Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio are ineligible to be the President, or even in the running, because neither are Natural Born American Citizens. Ted Cruz born a Citizen of Canada and Marco Rubio born the son of two resident immigrants not yet American Citizens. The fact that they are both of their lineages are of Cuban origin is totally irrelevant.
It is truly sad that so many choose to not only ignore but object to the most basic fundamental element that was required by our Forefathers to be the President of the United States of America. That one basic, most important, cannot be replaced with another, principle is being a Natural Born American Citizen. That which Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz, and Bobby Jindal ARE NOT!
If Sen. Cruz or Sen. Rubio win the nomination, both Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump will sue; and both of them will be in the right. If Cruz or Rubio are anywhere in the Republican ticket, Hillary Clinton will sue and possibly win by default. For neither Rubio or Cruz are Natural Born Americans. Nor is Bobby Jindal and Nikki Haley (a supposed Rubio VP).
Obama knows this, also. He is just going to ride it out and push us closer and closer to communism through him imposing Martial Law, because of the faulty election. Hell, he wanted a 3rd Term anyway, and if Rubio and/or Cruz win the nomination, he just might get it.
The first and most important thing about Rubio and Cruz is their ineligibility to even be in the running for the Presidency. Neither of these men are Natural Born Americans.
If this issue is to be determined by the SCOTUS, then they would most definitely want to be experts at the language and terms used at the time by the Founders when they wrote the Constitution to determine their original intent. Wouldn’t you think? And for those that want to use the Naturalization Act of 1790, (that Ted Cruz likes to use to legitimize his candidacy), to validate a candidate, that was Repealed by the Naturalization Act of 1795.
The country would be better served, if this issue with Natural Born American Citizen were made law by the Amendment process. But that would take time, a 2/3rd majority of both Houses of Congress and a 3/4 majority ratification from the States.
For those that cannot see it. We are being set up for a President that is not even an American, by the New World Order. Step One was Obama and the democrats and Step Two would be the Republicans via Cruz, Rubio, or Jindal.
TRUMP/WEST 2016/2020
Natural Born Citizen Explained
https://youtu.be/h9PxdDvgQks
Biggest Lie! You are not well informed. Before to speak search in Google. Rubio was born in USA mainland. His fathers came from Cuba legally. More than 90% of Cubans that came here, as all my family. We came by Probation law and made residents after two years and American Citizens. Too many open their mouth too soon. We came here and decided to be American by own will, others were born here but do not deserve to be American,
Mario-
There are at least 3(some say 4) kinds of Citizens (or citizens) in this country.
First, the “natural born.” These have 2 parents who were Citizens or citizens at the time of birth. These can also be American Nationals as opposed to Federal citizens.
Second, the 14th Amendment citizens. All that’s required for these is that they be born in America. Nationality of the parent or parents is irrelevant.
Third, “naturalized” citizens. These are the foreigners who come here LEGALLY, go through the process, take the test, pass it, swear an oath, and are granted citizenship(again, Federal)
Fourth, State Citizens. These are “Natural born” who also recognize that State Citizenship is different from Federal citizenship, and choose to exercise their Sovereign rights, as in:
“The people are Sovereign. …at the Revolution, the sovereignty devolved on the people; and they are truly the sovereigns of the country, but they are sovereigns without subjects…with none to govern but themselves; the citizens of America are equal as fellow citizens, and as joint tenants in the sovereignty.”
— Chisholm v. Georgia
Source: (US) 2 Dall 419, 454, 1 L Ed 440, 455 @Dall 1793 pp471-472
It can get confusing, i know. That’s why frauds like D’ohbama can get away with obfuscating, obstructing, and generally lying to Americans for so long.
Constitutionalist, is The American National also referred to as a member of indigenous people or tribes? If so are they required to renounce that designation in order to accept Federal Citizenship and qualify for whatever benefits and/or entitlements, that might apply?
Thank you!
If this is the case, then Obama is illegal to be President. His father was not an American citizen and he was really born in Kenya in accordance with his Aunt who witnessed his birth. It was stated, his mother flew to Hawaii and had him registered as live birth in Hawaii. His grandmother worked in the Vital Statistics Department in Hawaii.
His whole life has been nothing but lies and deceit.
I believe it !! A video shows obama addressing a crowd when he was running for the Illinois senate. He declared that he was not born in this country but was born in Kenya ! The video was not dubbed !
Sharon-
You pegged it! Congrats!
He doesn’t have to be, his mother was a citizen, and the constitution says specifically, that to be a natural born citizen, that one parent must be a citizen.
I can find no where in the Constitution that defines a natural born citizen. What article or amendment are you reading/
She’s reading NOTHING Russ, she’s just running her uneducated mouth!
Don’t know why Karacek and others feel the need to throw insults, but the real answer is this:
The Immigration and Nationality Act, which became law in December, 1952, and is still current U.S. law, defines “natural born citizen” as a person who is the child of a citizen father or a citizen mother, and who has resided in the United States for five continuous years between 14 and 28 years of age.
In addition, the Supreme Court has ruled several times on the statutes that have defined “natural born citizen” over the years and has never struck down the definition nor questioned Congress’ authority to define the term.
Couple that with the current polls, which clearly show that if Trump wins the nomination, Hillary wins the election. But if Cruz wins the nomination, Cruz wins the election. Now add to that the fact that my vote is tiny but prayers avail much. Therefore, I’m praying, for the good of our country, that Cruz wins.
In fact, my wife and I are praying with Ted Cruz’ Sunday school teacher on Tuesday mornings that God blesses our country exceeding abundantly above all we can ask or think. You can sign up for the conference call at https://www.tedcruz.org/pray/
You see, we can try to fix everything ourselves or we can work with God and let Him do the heavy lifting. After all, He is the only one who can change hearts. He is the only one who can give each of us Ephesians 3:20 days and years!
Cubans coming into the us are not considered illegal they are political refugees and he was born here
You are not well informed. Before to speak search in Google. He was born in USA mainland. His fathers came from Cuba legally. More than 90% of Cubans that came here, as all my family. We came by Probation law and made residents after two years and American Citizens
Trumps mother was born in Ireland.
Correct, and she became a naturalized citizen before The Donald was born!
This is true, Patriot. She was also a citizen at the time of Donald’s birth, ergo Trump is a Natural Born Citizen and also meets the remaining 2 Constitutional qualifications.
Get a clue and read the constitution. If a child of an American Citizen is here, they can run….
Both set of parents are Legal Citizens.
Also: If you really want to go “Natural Citizen”, Trump could not run either, since his mother was not born here..
As a matter of fact the current Marxist in the Oval Office should not have run either if that is the case……
Juan-
You are mistaken, Sir. The Constitution does not define the phrase “natural born.” The First Congress, Second Session, did. Google can be your friend.
As to Trump’s mom, she was a naturalized citizen at the time of Donald’s birth, unlike Rubio, NEITHER of which were citizens of any kind as of the day Marco was born.
A similar situation applies to Cruz, whose father was not a citizen at the time he was born – and may not be an American citizen today!
WHAT ABOUT THE DAMNED IDIOT WHO HAS BEEN IN OUR WHITE HOUSE FOR 2 TERMS…HE IS AN AFRICAN MUSLIM…ARE YOU NUTS???
Yeah Gingerkake, we are nuts…We the People are allowing this. Where are the marches to the sewer of DC in protest demanding the fraud’s arrest?????? Remember when Obummer barricaded the WWII memorial…remember the pictures of the WWII Vets that took down the barriers? Nothing was done to them. That’s what is needed now…these criminals need to be held accountable and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Only then will our elected “servants” get the message that it is about We The People, not the politicians.
I’m with Karacek, exactly what “we the people” need to do…… where is the anger and outrage about getting him impeached!!! I don’t get it.
Exactly correct….not sure why the Establishment who doesn’t favor Cruz anyway doesn’t use this argument. Perhaps because they could have to use it against their darling, Rubio, as well.
i agree with you .. the only one that should run is trump
You are wrong, I will not vote for Rubio, but his parents were here legally, and he was born here.
Check your facts.
If that’s the case, Obama is not eligible to be president. His father wasn’t a citizen.
exactly and Obama is in Office ILLEGALLY neither meets the Consitutional requirements
US Consitution
Article 2 section 1
I am not voting for the great senator Cruz, Ted is a great junior senator and American citizen. We literally need Cruz!! Any and all law suits of Teds citizenship will be thrown out of the courts. The issue with his citizenship was dead from day One.Long live Cruz. Trump 2016
TOTAL AGREE
Agreed. We can not allow this contradiction to the Constitution.
We cannot set this precedent.
Barack Obama is the real fake one here
Barack Obama is not only born in America but on top he HATE America that is worse
It doesn’t really matter so as to where he was born but that his Father was not a US citizen at the time of his birth.Both parents need to be US citizens at the time of a candidate’s birth to prevent the possibility of mixed allegiances. References would be discussions in letters between the Founding Fathers and Vattel’s “Laws of Nations” which is the main source by which the Founders followed.
And you believe that the Obama fool is an American. Get a clue.
Yes, he had an American mother which gives him American Citizenship but DOES NOT MAKE HIM A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN, that requires TWO American Citizen Parents
So then why is Obama president and Cruz should not be allowed run?
Good question. Maybe we need to impeach Obama and he receives no government pension.
All his appointments and bills passed should be null and void.
THAT IS NOT IMPEACHMENT. IF HE IS IMPEACHED, ALL OF HIS ILLEGAL ACTIONS STAY. HE NEEDS TO BE THROWN OUT ON HIS A** AND INTO THE NEAREST JAIL AND THROW AWAY THE KEY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sharon-
i totally agree with you.
Obama reached the highest office of the executive branch of the federal government by means of fraud, deception, obfuscation, obstruction, and flat-out lying. As an alleged “Constitutional Scholar,” he knew FULL WELL what “natural born” meant, ergo committed Fraud upon the American People.
Because he was never qualified for the presidency in the first place, i think that all some Federal judge would need to do is issue eviction papers to US Federal Marshals, who then could dump his crap on the curb and toss him and his family out on the street; impeachment isn’t necessary at all. Elevate the second-in-command, the VP Biden, to the office. HE is actually qualified!
because the demarats are stupid and they would vote for satan if he was running on the dumarats ticket
… and exactly HOW is John 8:42 ~ 47 NOT APPLICABLE HERE?!?!
Because the foreign-born illegal alien Muslim communist agent Saboteur Barack Hussein Obama II had been groomed to occupy the White House by way of “voter registration fraud” and illegal monetary donations from foreign socialist countries, including the U.S. fools that voted for the unknown impostor. And let’s not forget the communist organized labor unions, and ACORN that traveled from one polling place to another to increase Obama II’s votes, for which, they were questioned; but never investigated.
I always make it my business to investigate individuals running for public office before I cast my vote. For example; when William Jefferson Clinton ran for the Office of the U.S. President, I discovered he was totally unfit for the Highest Office in the land. When I investigated Barack Hussein Obama II, I discovered that absolutely nothing was known about this individual, even when the idiot Joseph R. Biden, Jr. referred to Obama II as an articulate person. I NEVER vote for anyone who is not known in this country.
Furthermore, the foreign-born illegal alien Barack Hussein Obama II was supported by the communist controlled news medias in this country. Most people never realized that “Communism” had been outlawed in America but, you must realize that members of the “American Communist Party” simply went underground. For years they occupied seats in both U.S. House. Most are in control within the Democratic Party, while in the Republican Party, they are known as RINOs.
I’m sorry to say; the whole country is corrupt.
MSGT JOHN CORREA
USAF (RET)
Good On Ya MSGT; Excellent synopsis, to which I would make only one addition here:
IN the 1972 Presidential campaign, I was working in Atlanta, Ga., and about halfway through the primaries, there was a national NEWS announcement:
Perennial CPUSA candidate Gus Hall had noticed the CPUSA “Platform” was SO SIMILAR TO the George McGovern DNC “Platform” that , DUE TO that similarity, Hall publicly announced he was throwing all of his campaign support behind McGovern and the Democrat party IN A COMBINED EFFORT TO VICTORY!!! … The fact McGovern carried ONLY ONE State, tells the story about that due diligence. … UNFORTUNATELY, these 44-years have since taken their TOLL in our Hallowed Halls of Academia Moron Factories!!!
That’s a good question, and I have a good answer for you. First, Obama is NOT a natural born citizen, as the constitution requires; he is, therefore, not eligible to be President of the United States. He is a usurper, plain and simple. The democrats know this, and have all along; that is why they put up such an effort to have the eligibility requirements eased, to get their man in. Here’s a link:
http://www.maggiesnotebook.com/2011/07/congress-tried-to-change-natural-born-citizen-clause-over-and-over/
They failed. This meant that they had to invent a plausible alternate history for Obama…Hawaii, etc. It turns out that his grandmother worked at some department in Hawaii that gave her access to various records; she built that history using stolen items, such as a Connecticut-issued social Security number, and his phony Birth Certificate.
The coverup requires that his actual records be hidden, which is why everything about this guy is shrouded in secrecy, all records sealed.
Agreed. But he was declared as such. Cruz is openly not natural born citizen.
This is what scares me the most about Cruz!
Let’s say he gets the nomination and goes on to win the general.
Suit. Is refilled and heard in one state and then other states get involved, we now have a constitutional crisis. Obama can stay president until all courts decide!
Cruz and Rubio by going on the ballot with out having this cleared up before entering the race were in my opinion very selfish and irresponsible and have put the good of the country in a precarious situation.
Why did they not get a ruling before running for president?
It appears as though Cruz does not qualify to even be senator!
Rob, your concerns are not based on facts. Ted Cruz was a U.S. citizen at birth because his mother is a U.S. citizen.
Yes he is an American Citizen but he is NOT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!
he was a Canadian citizen until 2 years ago
Not true. Both parents were citizens of Canada and subject to their laws. In this case, Ted Cruz does not inherit his mother’s U.S. Citizenship as there is no duel citizenship to begin with. Later, Ted Cruz had to denounced his Canadian citizenship in order to become a U.S. citizen, and thus, he is NOT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN. And I repeat, Ted Cruz does not inherit his mother’s American citizenship, and neither did Barack Hussein Obama II. Worst yet, Barack Hussein Obama II is not even a legal citizen of the United States. Why do suppose the “corrupted” sealed Barack Hussein Obama II’s records, particularly, his passport. He was born in Mombasa (Kenya) East Africa, and later, he became an Islamic Muslim citizen of Indonesia.
MSGT JOHN CORREA
USAF (RET)
Actually, Cruz mother still had her citizenship when he was born but renounced it later. He claimed dual citizenship until before this run. But Constitution is very clear about being born on U.S. soil to be natural born.
Constitution is explicit! Must be born on American soil which includes embassies or military bases. Cruz was NOT.
The only qualifications that Cruz does qualify for…as being a total nut case. He should be in a mental hospital for crazy people.
Rob, Trump fabricated the birther thing so you would be afraid to vote for Cruz. Fact is:
The Immigration and Nationality Act, which became law in December, 1952, and is still current U.S. law, defines “natural born citizen” as a person who is the child of a citizen father or a citizen mother, and who has resided in the United States for five continuous years between 14 and 28 years of age.
In addition, the polls show clearly that Trump cannot beat Hillary, but Cruz can. So the next President will be either Hillary or Cruz. Which do you want?
Yes both Cruz an Rubio are ineligible to be president an so was Obama we need to start following our laws there is too much of this going on in washington cheating on elections an the only one to put stop to this is Donald Trump so let’s put him in the white house
Amen. Cruz’s ability to run for president shouldn’t be based on the fact his mother is a U.S. citizen. He wasn’t even born in this country, for Pete’s Sake. (And according to the Constitution, it takes two citizen parents to be a Natural born citizen. Emphasis on the plural.) Rubio is totally ineligible. While his parents were here legally (they had their Green Cards), they simply weren’t citizens themselves until a few years AFTER Marco was born. Both of these men aren’t following the Constitution very closely, although they talk pretty. But, then again, another certain someone allegedly talks pretty, too. (Personally, I can’t bear to even listen to him, our Fraud In Chief.) We’re being told to come together and get behind our Candidate, but the primaries aren’t yet complete. I like Carson, but he’s so far down on the list he hasn’t a prayer, but by some miracle should he be the last man standing, I’ll gladly cast my vote for him. However. I cannot and WILL not cast a vote for Rubio. I will stand on my principles. Unless and until the Courts clear Cruz of any ineligibility roadblocks, I won’t be able to cast a vote for him either. That leaves Kasich and Trump. Go Trump!
IMHO … OTHER THAN Dr. Benjamin Carson, ANY V.P. to a Donald J. Trump Presidency, SELECTED FROM THIS ELITIST GAGGLE OF POLITICAL GEESE SHALL PORTEND ANOTHER Ronald W. Reagan – Style, “V.P. REPLACEMENT Election”!!!!!
God Speed, our Elohim anointed Trump Presidency and recovery of these united States of America, Our Republic, of constitutionally guaranteed republican Jural society states!!!
Wish more people liked Carson, he is a brilliant man, how about a Trump/Carson ticket???
Cindy-
i’d consider it ONLY if he was willing(Carson, that is) to utterly repudiate and forever reject the whole “mandatory inoculations” idea as the ultimate Tyranny it is.
The truth is Trump will probably not be a good President. Past Employees agree that he gets exicited about new “projects” but does not take time to learn the business and quickly loses interest. But I don’t think he is a murdering traitor. And as in his businesses one can only hope that others in key positions would still get the job done.
The reality is there are NO good options currently, not in either party.
I cannot believe that people still believe Obama was born in Hawaii boy the American people have really been fooled and they are still stupid enough to vote for Trump who is belongs in the circus as a ringmaster. I believe Trump will be worst than what we have now and I also think he will throw the election to Lady Liberty (Hillary Clinton).
You’re a FOOL!
I concur!
MSGT JOHN CORREA
USAF (RET)
… ME TOO!!!!
Well Dr Carson sounds better every day.
Joe, shows what you know…. he is not intimidated by the establishment or special interest groups, he is paying for his own campaign, does not want contributions from anyone, and doesn’t mind telling “we the people” the truth, good or bad!!!! This country needs an overhaul desperately!!!!
Despite the insults thrown at you by others, current polls clearly show that you are correct about the election. It will be either Hillary or Cruz.
Please join Ted Cruz’ Sunday school teacher on Tuesday mornings to pray that God blesses our country exceeding abundantly above all we can ask or think. Sign up for the conference call at https://www.tedcruz.org/pray/
We can try to fix everything ourselves or we can work with God and let Him do the heavy lifting. After all, He is the only one who can change hearts. He is the only one who can give each of us Ephesians 3:20 days and years!
The bought and sold US judiciary know full well that a Natural Born Citizen is far different from a US citizen or Naturalized citizen. The founders’ intent by the words Natural Born was to preclude and other foreign allegiance which meant the BOTH parents had to be US citizens. But because this was overlooked for Obama, nothing will happen. Can you imagine the riots?
And being born in Kenya is legal with the ss # of a dead man who lived in a state Obama never lived in?????
The precedent has already been set!
…. BOT EVEN!!!! … Things repugnant to the Constitution are NULL & VOID on their face, with NO STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS!!!!
There is no one on either side that deserves to be President. They’re all a–holes, & crooks.
I agree with Rod. Neither Cruz NOR Rubio are eligible (nor was Obama, of course), and Trump is the only one who will enforce the laws of the land!
I agree completely with your post.
MSGT JOHN CORREA
USAF (RET)
I heard that there were a lot of people who just don’t believe that president Obama was born in America. So that means that the powers that be are all part of a conspiracy to elect Obama to the highest office in the world. Most people just believe what they want and facts do not matter. What ever mis info that can be generated to discredit Pres. Obama is typical of the old jim crow south.
Our country has become full of corruption. The people have lost and the country will now become like Mexico or any other country in third world.
Before making the decision as to whether Cruz, is a natural born citizen we need to find out the following about his mother. Did his mother have to renounce her US citizen when she became a Canadian? Look at her tax filings during that time. If she did what date did she become a Canadian citizen? The laws in Canada changed after Cruz was born. If one looks at a passport cover it is my understanding that dual citizenship’s were not allowed in US and Canada, when Cruz was born, but this needs to be verified. Therefore it is very likely he is not a US citizen. If these questions are provided to me I am a US attorney also an ivy league graduate of Cuban descent and would enjoy taking him on.
So, those of you who have a problem with his citizenship, if you took a vacation to Europe and delivered a baby while “NOT on US soil” are you saying that baby would NOT be a US citizen? Citizenship is created by the lineage of the parents, not their location when the birth occurs. This is one of the sticky points regarding the immigration argument. If a citizen of Canada or Mexico is in the US, legally or not, and has a baby, that baby is not an American. So all the babies of illegals should not be deemed as US citizens.
Ken-
As best i can tell, you’re part right and part wrong.
You’re right that if a married couple of US Citizens or citizens, wife pregnant, were traveling outside the borders of the US and had the baby, it would be a “natural born” Citizen as described in the Law as made by the First Congress in their Second Session, duly signed by president Washington. You’re wrong in re: foreigners traveling here and giving birth to a child – that child IS a citizen, under the 14th Amendment – it’s just not a “natural born” one, and it’s disqualified from holding the office of the president. Ever hear the phrase “anchor babies”? Many citizens of foreign countries deliberately travel here in order to gain citizenship status for their baby…a lot of them Chinese, too!
It is NOT a requirement that a child be born on ‘American soil’ for it to be natural born, just that it’s born of TWO(yes, TWO) Americans – AND, those Americans could be 14th Amendment citizens OR naturalized OR natural born or any combination thereof – just as long as they’re citizens, it doesn’t matter where or how the child was born to make it have the “natural born” status…just TO WHOM.
When Rafael Edward “Ted” Cruz was born.
His parents were LIVING in CANADA.
As in WORKING in CANADA.
Does this mean Rafael Edward “Ted” Cruz is also a CUBAN CITIZEN ?
His father is Cuban?
One thing for certain, Rafael Edward “Ted” Cruz is a DICKHEAD !!!
For someone to claim to be a so-called “CHRISTIAN”, he sure talks a lot of HATE and LIES all the time.
That’s what I call a HYPOCRITE and a BIGOT !
Have you study the Constitution?. Well, natural born means that the person was born of a BORN US CITIZEN.
Now Mr. Rubio was born in the US of parents that had been granted the us naturalization.
We are facing a very bleak future, if Hillary wins or if Trumps wins. It really does not make to much of a difference, they are very close and if you all think that Trump is not a TROJAN HORSE, you will find out after he or she take over. And to the younger
generations, read and learn about Socialism, and practice to live with a lot less, because you see that’s the way it works. And then you will understand how the communist countries operate. I know I have lived just that!
GOOD LUCK! arnie
How can Cruz met the qualifications when he was born in Canada? He had to be born in this country!!!
Trump is a “Trojan Horse”? You have evidence of that? Do you think any president since Andrew Jackson did what was Right for this country? You need to learn more about the history of this country.
Arnie-
The Constitution doesn’t say what “natural born” means. If you disagree, please read it for yourself and point out my error.
Neither of Rubio’s parents were any kind of citizens when he was born; only LATER did they become naturalized, so Rubio is ineligible. His parents would have had to have been citizens BEFORE he was born. There’s no retroactivity involved. Assuming that Rubio has children through a wife who is a Citizen, then his CHILDREN are certainly natural born, but HE IS NOT.
If you want the law on this, try googling “natural born first congress second session” and read up.
For all who believe Cruz and Rubio are eligible for the presidency, here is an article for you to read to learn what a “natural-born citizen” is:
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/NaturalBorn.php#axzz3z963CWqo
What good is the laws when the Judges even break the laws… http://www.dcclothesline.com/2016/02/28/ted-cruz-is-not-eligible-to-be-president-nor-is-rubio-confirmed/
Dusty-
The author of that article was ill-informed; while the DoI was signed in 1776, the Constitution wasn’t authorized ’til 1789, when the first Congress sat…and the DoI contains nothing about the phrase “natural born.” The website may be a disinfo plant, aka a “straw man argument,” e.g. you cite the article, then have informed people easily point out the multiple inaccuracies in it, thereby casting doubt and leading astray.
Try googling “natural born first congress second session” or just “natural born,” looking for SCOTUS decisions referencing the phrase for more accurate info(assuming it hasn’t been “scrubbed,” yet, that is).
All that said, i completely agree with the conclusions of the article; neither Cruz nor Rubio are natural born, ergo unqualified for the presidency. D’ohbama should just be evicted(him being unqualified from the git-go), then prosecuted for fraud and felony perjury, for starters.
In other words the suit was dismissed because of sloppy work by some legal clerk. The basic question of Cruz’s eligibility to serve as president was not addressed. I agree with Sen. Cruz’s stand on the issues but I don’t think he is eligible to serve. From what I’ve read a natural born citizen was born on U.S. soil to parents who are U.S. citizens.
This issue was the whole nature of the complaint against President Obama. It was alleged that he was born in Kenya rather than Hawaii. I’ve wondered how many people that said Obama was ineligible to serve has had no problem with Cruz. It seems like a double standard to me. Maybe the next Congress should define natural born citizen to end the ambiguity.
Justin-
That’s it, you see; Congress ALREADY DEFINED what the phrase “natural born” means, AND at least 3 subsequent SCOTUS decisions concur. Just google “natural born first congress second session” and inform yourself.
Justin, several commenters here want to go back to the first definition of “natural born citizen” and ignore legal changes to that definition. But eligibility is not about who said what or whose opinion might have changed. Eligibility, in fact, this whole election, is about following what current U.S. law actually says.
Current U.S. law can be found in the Immigration and Nationality Act, which became law in December, 1952 and defines “natural born citizen” as a person who is the child of a citizen father or a citizen mother, and who has resided in the United States for five continuous years between 14 and 28 years of age.
As for the suit, the Supreme Court has ruled several times on the statutes that have defined “natural born citizen” over the years and has never struck down the definition nor questioned Congress’ authority to define the term. So, if the suit were to be refiled, it would probably be a very quick case and would certainly be decided in Cruz’ favor.
You’ve said this before, but when challenged to provide the exact wording of the statute where the words “natural born” were defined, you either ignored it or never saw it.
So, you’ve made the claim, now back it up.
We need a good financial person to control our finances in government. Donald Trump is experienced and determined.. He sees real issues and wants to deal with them, not just talk about them. Trump does not hate minorities. He just wants people to come to America legally. He doesn’t want to build a wall because someone is other than white, but because of the problems we have with uncontrolled and illegal immigrants and migrants. Obama damaged America and so did B. Clinton and others. I see Cruz and Rubio, Clinton and Sanders and etc. the same way, as just talkers, who don’t have the guts or know how to take effective action and make things work. Hillary is not intelligent nor is she strong. I feel she wants to be the first women president because i have heard her excitement about it.
None of your opinions are worth a nickel including mine on the citizenship issue.Ted Cruz has shown himself to be more American then all of us in that he is a true constitutionist. He has fought the fight to stop the establishment . Regardless of who you support for president America can’t go wrong with Cruz. He is fighting for each and everyone of us.
Dan-
That’s nonsense. If Cruz were a “true Constitutionalist,” he’d immediately take himself out of the race, for he’d KNOW he wasn’t qualified on the natural-born issue. How can you “fight for the Constitution” while simultaneously violating it? In addition, how could he honestly, forthrightly, and with a clear conscience take the Oath of Office? Hence the “nonsense.”
Constitutionalist, that’s nonsense. You’re ignoring current U.S. law in favor of foreign law and superseded law.
The Immigration and Nationality Act, which became law in December, 1952, and is still current U.S. law, defines “natural born citizen” as a person who is the child of a citizen father or a citizen mother, and who has resided in the United States for five continuous years between 14 and 28 years of age.
Cruz has studied the Constitution all of his life, even memorizing it when he was still in high school. And he has successfully argued constitutional issues before the Supreme Court. He knows he’s eligible! And so does Trump!
Fact is, current polls clearly show that Trump has no chance to beat Hillary. Our next President will be either Cruz or Hillary. So the question is: Are you willing to give up your personal opinion for the good of the country?
“Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country.”
– JFK
You can repeat something a long time, but until you SHOW ME where the words “natural born” WERE re-defined, instead of just flapping your yap, that won’t change the FACT of how the First Congress defined the words, the FACT of George Washington signing this definition into law, the FACT that Vattel’s Law of Nations says that TWO citizen-parents are required to convey “natural born ” status in EVERY COUNTRY, nor the FACT that at least 3 SCOTUS decisions have AFFIRMED this meaning, at least one post-14th Amendment.
Cruz is a naturalized citizen at best.. A natural born citizen does not have to file immigration documents (CRBA) to claim citizenship.. Anyone born to US citizens abroad prior to 1986 has these immigration documents, these documents are the only records providing a “naturalized” US citizenship. Canada did not allow dual citizenship from 1947 to 1977 no acceptions…. Since Cruz still had Canadian citizenship until July 2014 this means he did not have US citizenship prior to 1977 ihis Canadian citizenship would have been given up at the time his mom filed the CRBA documents with the US consulate to confer her citizenship to him.. I suspect his mother brought him to this country on a Canadian passport, hers.. Since he has denied access to the documents this tells me he is a complete fraud.. Having citizenship elsewhere for 43 years is clearly against any natural laws claiming a natural birth status in state he was not born to.. Also the CRBA forms are “naturalization” records created by legislative order not the constitution.. No Natural Born citizen in this country has CRBA records.. Cruz is a fraud and he know this.. Haven’t we had enough trouble with professional politicians with sealed records..?
Just in case the points got lost during the mix, i wanted to reiterate them here, at the end(well, right now, anyway):
In order to be eligible to run for the presidency of the United States, one of the 3 requirements is that the candidate be “natural born.”
The Constitution does not define “natural born.”
The First Congress, in it’s Second Session, realized this omission, and PASSED LAW, duly signed by Washington, that natural born meant the exact same thing that Vattel wrote in his book, “The Law of Nations,” which went into print roughly 20 years before the first Congress was seated. The definition is that to be “natural born,” you must be born of 2 parents who were both Citizens at the time of the birth(with no-longer-applicable exceptions for those born prior to the Revolution).
In addition, there have been at least 3 SCOTUS decisions in re: the definition of the phrase ‘natural born.’ In at least one of them, Vattel was mentioned by name…thus confirming Vattel’s definition AND the First Congress’s concurrence with that definition. At least one of these SCOTUS decisions came AFTER the alleged passage of the 14th Amendment, too.
If any disagree, feel free to scour the CFR(or Code of Federal Regulations) which describe how laws are to be implemented, as well as the definitions of the words used in those law, then find and show me where the phrase “natural born” has been re-defined.
To those who think, “well, D’ohbama set a precedent,” feel free to point out that portion of the Supreme Law which says that “Oh, yeah, and if you can just establish some precedent,, well then precedent is the Supreme Law of the land.” (Don’t waste your time.)
Besides, the first president who wasn’t qualified to sit the office was the fella who took over after Garfield was assassinated…and he went to great lengths to hide the circumstances of HIS birth, too! But again, “precedent” never trumps the Supreme Law, otherwise it wouldn’t BE Supreme, would it? Then, too, there’s this:
“It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. We hold this prudent jealousy to be the first duty of citizens, and one of the noblest characteristics of the late Revolution. The freeman of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened
itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. They saw all the consequences in the principle, and they avoided the consequences by denying the principle.”
— James Madison(1751-1836), Father of the Constitution for the USA, 4th US President
Source: “A Memorial and Remonstrance”, 1785: Works 1:163
There are at least 3, possibly 4, different kinds of citizenship in America:
First, “natural born.” Requires 2(count ’em, TWO) parents who are citizens, doesn’t matter what kind.
Second, 14th Amendment. The only requirement for these is that they be born on American soil(hence the “anchor babies”).
Third, “naturalized” citizens; these come here from other lands, study and pass the citizenship test, and swear an oath of loyalty.
Fourth, Sovereign State Citizens, who recognize that there are disadvantages to “federal” citizenship(mainly, that Natural Rights are exchanged for “federal privileges and immunities:, read the 14th), and prefer to exercise their Sovereignty, as in:
“The people are Sovereign. …at the Revolution, the sovereignty devolved on the people; and they are truly the sovereigns of the country, but they are sovereigns without subjects…with none to govern but themselves; the citizens of America are equal as fellow citizens, and as joint tenants in the sovereignty.”
— Chisholm v. Georgia
Source: (US) 2 Dall 419, 454, 1 L Ed 440, 455 @Dall 1793 pp471-472
…these also must be “natural born” in order to exercise this status.
In addition, this caution applies to them(and really, all Citizens or citizens):
“Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their OWN governors, will arm themselves with the power that knowledge gives.” ~James Madison
“Reason and Ignorance, the opposites of each other, influence the great bulk of mankind. If either of these can be rendered sufficiently extensive in a country, the machinery of Government goes easily on. Reason obeys itself; and Ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.”
— Thomas Paine(1737-1809) US Founding father, pamphleteer, author
“To be governed is to be watched, inspected, spied upon, directed, law-driven, numbered, regulated, enrolled, indoctrinated, preached at, controlled, checked, estimated, valued, censured, and commanded by creatures who have neither the right nor the wisdom nor the virtue to do so. To be governed is to be at every operation, at every transaction: noted, registered, counted, taxed, stamped, measured, numbered, assessed, licensed, authorized, admonished, prevented, forbidden, reformed, corrected, punished. It is, under pretext of public utility, and in the name of the general interest, to be placed under contribution, drilled, fleeced, exploited, monopolized, extorted from, squeezed, hoaxed, robbed; then, at the slightest resistance, the first word of complaint, to be repressed, fined, vilified, harassed, hunted down, abused, clubbed, disarmed, bound, choked, imprisoned, judged, condemned, shot, deported, sacrificed, sold, betrayed; and to crown all, mocked, ridiculed, derided, outraged, dishonoured. That is government; that is it’s justice; that is it’s morality.”
— Pierre-Joseph Proudhon(1809-1865) French mutualist political philosopher
Source: The General Idea of the Revolution in the 19th Century, 1851
http://books.google.com/books?id=_apVMk2aEzQC
And, one more thing: during D’ohbama’s fraudulent stay as the Current Occupant, many have tried to sue on the “natural born” issue(as well as the fake birth certificate red-herring). The majority have been thrown out on grounds of “no standing” to sue, AND without explanation. Here’s the explanation:
“But, indeed, NO PRIVATE PERSON has a right to complain, by suit in court, on the ground of a breach of the Constitution. The Constitution it is true, is a compact, but he is not a party to it. The States are the parties to it. And they may complain. If they do, they are entitled to redress. Or they may waive the right to complain. ”
Padelford, Fay & Co., vs. Mayor and Aldermen of the City of Savannah 14 Ga. 438, 520
This means that in order to have a federal court hear it, you must petition your State to sue, because NO INDIVIDUAL can. However, it will take a LOT of people to get this done, because the Federal government agents can and do exert MONDO pressure on State governments to comply and submit, or they lose funding, don’t they?
Rebuttal:
Current U.S. law defines “natural born citizen” as a person who is the child of a citizen father or a citizen mother, and who has resided in the United States for five continuous years between 14 and 28 years of age.
Some have questioned Congress’ authority to define the term. But, in 1790, the very first Congress, at its Second Session, in accordance with its power, under the Constitution to “establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization,” because “natural born citizen” needed to be defined so as not to be confused with “naturalized,” and since the Constitution did not provide the definition, that first Congress took it upon themselves to define it, thus establishing that Congress has the authority to define the term. Furthermore, being much closer to the Framers of the Constitution, some of them perhaps being Framers themselves, that first Congress would have known, much better than we, who the Framers intended to define the term.
In addition, the Supreme Court has ruled several times on the statutes that define “natural born citizen” and has never struck down the definition nor questioned Congress’ authority to define the term.
That statute defined “natural born citizen” thusly:
“And the children of citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens: Provided, That the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States. . . .”
In May of 1934, a subsequent act of Congress eliminated the requirement that the father must have been, at some time, a resident of the United States and added a five-year continuous residence requirement and an oath to the foreign-born child of either a citizen father or a citizen mother. The Nationality Act of 1940, § 201, 54 Stat. 1138, contained a similar condition for a total of five years’ residence in the United States between the ages of 13 and 21. The Immigration and Nationality Act, which became law in December, 1952, changed the ages of the five years’ continuous residence requirement to between 14 and 28 years of age.
So current law defines “natural born citizen” as a person who is the child of a citizen father or a citizen mother, and who has resided in the United States for five continuous years between 14 and 28 years of age. In addition, the Supreme Court has ruled on these statutes several times and has never struck down that definition or questioned Congress’ authority to define the term.
Therefore, if the lawsuit is refiled and not thrown out on a technicality, the case will probably be handled very quickly and certainly be decided in Cruz’ favor.
The real issue is: Will it be Cruz or Hillary? According to current polls, Trump can’t beat Hillary, but Cruz can. Time to be practical! Time to decide who you really want running the country.
Please join Ted Cruz’ Sunday school teacher on Tuesday mornings to pray that God blesses our country exceeding abundantly above all we can ask or think. Sign up for the conference call at https://www.tedcruz.org/pray/
We can try to fix everything ourselves or we can work with God and let Him do the heavy lifting. After all, He is the only one who can change hearts. He is the only one who can give each of us Ephesians 3:20 days and years!
If Cruz is able to be President then whats to stop a couple from ISIS doing the same
Your vote.
In May of 1934, a subsequent act of Congress eliminated the requirement that the father must have been, at some time, a resident of the United States and added a five-year continuous residence requirement and an oath to the foreign-born child of either a citizen father or a citizen mother. The Nationality Act of 1940, § 201, 54 Stat. 1138, contained a similar condition for a total of five years’ residence in the United States between the ages of 13 and 21. The Immigration and Nationality Act, which became law in December, 1952, changed the ages of the five years’ continuous residence requirement to between 14 and 28 years of age.
Show me. Provide a link. The intent of the first Congress was to prevent “undue foreign influence” over the president.
If i can see for myself that the phrase “natural born” has been lawfully changed – and the intent of the original lawmakers not overturned – i will revise my opinion. The last time you posted similar information, i could not find where the phrase “natural born” had it’s meaning changed one iota, and asked you for clarification then; either you didn’t see it or you ignored it.
As to Cruz, he didn’t relinquish his Canadian citizenship until 2014. According to some sources, his mother was registered to vote in Canada, an act you can’t lawfully take without being a Canadian citizen, and i’m assuming your OK with confirming that Cruz’s father was never an American.
“your” = you’re. i wish there were a way to edit your posts after putting them up. Hate typos.
The foregoing posts are interesting relative to the definition of natural born citizen per our Constitution. I thought the Supreme Court 1875 decision in Minor v. Happersett was the last word, and that word was that an nbc is the child of two citizen parents at the time of birth, that birth occurring in the United States. That definition was clearly the intention of the framers of the Constitution, following the authority of the day, Vattel’s Law of Nations. I will now try to find this 1952 Immigration and Nationality Act to see what it says. However, in the instant case involving Cruz, the technicality on which the case was tossed out is suspiciously like the technical obstructions placed against similar lawsuits when Obama’s citizenship status was questioned.
I, too, was born in Canada and claimed citizenship through my American mother. It is clear on the Form N-600 Application for Citizenship what is required and what is received; “Naturalized Citizenship”. I (and CRUZ) are ineligible to become President of the United States according to the Constitution. We were not “natural born”; rather we were “naturalized”! The gall of CRUZ who swore to uphold the Constitution! He and the politicians blatantly insult the intelligence and integrity of those of us who have read the Constitution and dutifully follow the law every day. It’s insulting! Sary to think if he were allowed to be president what other liberties he will step on!
Why all of a sudden everybody is concerned about citizenship in this election and NO ONE said a word about any of it when Obama was running? None of these is about citizenship, it comes down to Christians verses none Christians. Two terms were served by a person who all through his life was primed to become president of UNITED STATES and NO ONE did a thing about it, Why now. It’s ALL about who the person represents, Kingdom of GOD or the kingdom of this world.
MaryLou-
There were many objections before the 2008 election, between the election and the swearing-in, and post election. i read of one fella who sued while he was running, only to be told by the court that his suit was “premature.” So he re-filed after the election, only to be told AGAIN that his suit was “premature.” Then he filed after D’ohbama was sworn in, and was told “You filed too late.”
The fix was in.
But at that time, most Americans were quite ignorant of the issue; many have awakened since, and said “Hey, WTF! You can’t do that!” But such as these were also ignorant that ONLY a State may seek redress for a Constitutional violation, and continued to have their individual suits dismissed for “lack of standing” w/o explanation.
i know i certainly was; i thought that the phrase “natural born” meant only that a candidate was born in one of the 50 States of the Union, but i was wrong. That’s why when the Senate issued it’s approval of the McCain candidacy and CITED the First Congress, Second Session decision, i looked it up to be certain – then i said to myself, “Hey, wait a minute! If this law applies to McCain, why doesn’t it also apply to D’ohbama?!?” Nothing but crickets chirping from CONgress. The fix was in, you see.
Americans – well, awake and aware ones, at any rate – said “After D’ohbama, NF way anyone one else pulls that trick on us again!” in effect, which is why you’re seeing quite a few people object to Cruz and Rubio on the natural born grounds – and not JUST on this blog, either.
In fact, one of the links in this thread leads to an interesting point raised by an “Edward Viera,” iirc, who said that any attempt to IMPEACH D’ohbama would first legitimize his presidency, so that’s the wrong tack to take, then he referenced MULTIPLE statutes D’ohbama is in violation of, and suggested that he simply be treated like any other fraud or criminal, and just flat-out arrested and prosecuted, then thrown out of office for lying like a rug. This is a point i often raised when i read of people calling for impeachment, saying that because he was not “natural born,” he had no right to be there ab initio, so a federal judge should simply issue an eviction order and have the US Marshals throw his crap out and evict him AND his spend-a-holic wife…but at the time, i didn’t have an idea that trying to impeach him would legally legitimize his illegitimate presidency.