A major U.S. political party is being torn to shreds by an ideological rift so deep it may as well be a chasm… and many now say publicly they will REFUSE to support that party’s nominee in November.
And it’s good news for conservative voters.
The GOP looks practically harmonious compared to the Democrats. Even the so-called “Never Trump” movement has quickly shut up and fallen into line, with Mitt Romney abandoning his behind-the-scenes attempts to recruit a third-party candidate or even run himself.
On the Democratic side, however, Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders is waging a battle that he now knows he can’t win… but cripples former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton as she tries to pivot toward the general election.
“It’s very clear now that the longer they stay in this race the more damage they’re doing,” Ken Martin, chairman of Minnesota’s Democratic-Farmer Labor Party, told The Washington Post.
But he’s doing it anyway, and this “slash and Bern” approach to politics, which is far more divisive to Democrats than anything Trump has done with Republicans, is threatening to tear the party in half.
Forget “Never Trump.” Many Sanders supporters now say openly they could never vote for Hillary Clinton!
What’s the real goal here? Sanders has been consistently upfront about it all along – and it’s not winning a primary or even an election.
It’s a socialist revolution, and when you look at it in that context it’s easy to see why he won’t pull out of the primary, “suspend” his campaign and support Clinton.
Instead, he and his army of young supporters are trying to hijack the Democratic Party and turn it into something else entirely – a fanatical anti-bank, anti-corporate, anti-business party that accepts no compromise.
Even in defeat, he’s quietly gathering delegates. He could soon have nearly 2,000 of them – and he’ll use them to wage open war against the party and Clinton at the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia in July.
“We are going to fight as hard as we can on the floor of the Democratic convention to make sure that we have a progressive platform that the American people will support,” he told the Philadelphia Daily News.
His supporters aren’t standing down either – and they’re not shy about their real goal.
“We want to have progressive values and socialism on the convention’s agenda, rather than slip back into centrist Democratic thinking if she gets elected,” Tick Segerblom, a state senator in Nevada and a Sanders supporter, told The New York Times. “I think there could be some chaos at the convention – at least outside, with a lot of anarchists, socialists, young people.”
And that leads to a “damned if you do, damned if you don’t” situation that could cost the Democrats for years to come.
anders has received almost 10 million votes in the Democratic primaries so far. That’s nearly as many as GOP nominee Donald Trump.
If their platform is simply cast out at the convention as too radical, it could lead to a permanent schism within the party and even an independent challenge.
But if they cave and allow Sanders and his team to set a socialist agenda, they can kiss middle-of-the-road politically independent Americans goodbye – because they want nothing to do with this bankrupt left-wing political philosophy.
Either way, it could spell doom for Democrats in November — and that may be why party insiders are resigned to defeat: Longtime Democratic strategist Dave “Mudcat” Saunders went so far as to say that Trump would beat Clinton “like a baby seal.”
— The Horn editorial team
I’m a Democrat and I voted for Sanders in the Massachusetts Primary. I’m voting for Trump in November. Up until 1992 the Democratic Party still had a place for the working class. Once Clinton got in, it was the party of faux elitists and freeloaders. To be fair, the current GOP offers little to working people too with the RINOS.
Just One Big DC-NWO Cabal pretending at sElection time to be two parties. Trump 2016 may offer an “Andy Jackson” moment, but nothing in politics or any human endeavor, is perfect. Some are better than others of course.
If individual liberty could be restored short of a complete collapse of freedom it would be nice, but i’m not counting on it. CYA, the USSA isn’t what you may think it is, comrades.
Yes – and we can vote out the RINO’s too in the coming election cycles. We can turn this government around, pare it down to size, and make government work for Americans again. Keep voting, starting with TRUMP.
Trump 2016!!! What’s left to say!
Main Street, I agree with your comment, it speaks the truth. I was a Democrat till 1992. I was for California Governor Brown
when he ran in 1992. The primaries were fixed & rigged by the damned POS Clinton’s. Jerry Brown threw his support to Ross
Perot. I voted for Perot in 1992. I quit being a Democrat in 1992 because of the damned POS Clinton’s. The Clinton’s have
ruined and destroyed the Democratic Party by making it the damned Clintoncratic Party. That damned POS B@$CC Hitlery
Killery ROTTON Clinton ran in 2000 for the U.S.Senate in my NO GOOD ROTTON birth state of New York, that damned POS
B@$CH never lived a day of her life in New York State during that time. If that damned POSB@$CH is elected our next
Figurehead, I will be leaving the country after I have everything I own that I don’t wand and need all sold and won’t be back as
Long as the damned POS B@&CH is in the White House. The Clinton’s act like there is no such thing as the working class.
@ Mr. O’Rourke: In 1992 Clinton passed himself off as a moderate southern Democrat. Many Irish-American Democrats here in the Boston area supported him with fundraisers etc. Then we saw the elitism and greed of these folks. Many folks like myself never again worked for a Democrat candidate. The same with Joe Kennedy, RFK’s son. Trash with a big bank account.
TRY not to make DERANGED DEBBIE Wasserman-SCHULTS aware of this but She as Much as the CLINTONS are REsponsible for What Jeremiah said ” THEM CHIKINS HAV CUM HOME TO ROOST”..and may be the DAYS of the PROGRESSIVE PARTY OF HYPOCRITES , Once known as the Democrat Party, has come to and END!!!!.
I gag every time I see D W-S on TV. What a despicable person.
YOU GOT THAT RIGHT
AMEN
The Clinton also act like they are above the laws. They will sell what’s left of the country to the highest bidder. They all ready sold uranium to the Russians and our election to the middle east.. If she get elected even God will not be able to help us from devils hand maiden
Finally a news report that tells the truth about the Clintons. When will the people wake up and see what they really are?
If Hit-LIAR-y gets back in the WHITE HOUSE, we’re completely doomed. She’s already stated the SCOTUS “…is wrong about the ‘Second Amendment’!” She’ll try to take all our weapons! The only ones who will have them are the criminals and Muslims!
Lastly, she’s already got plans to put “Slick Willie the Rapist” in charge of the economy! WTF OVER! Wake up America!
Agreed,
I call it the RINO/Democrat establishment. – Nothing for the working man or self employed(me) at all. Not too good for small businesses, either. Just a bunch of greedy self serving bastards. — The all have to go.
Maybe Trump will get guys like you and guys like me together to put the country back on the right track. – No matter what he couldn’t be worse then what we got now and is a damn site better then that treasonous felon. Drop her off at the miner’s union hall. We will never hear of her again.
And frankly, this free healthcare (= more money for drug companies, while we would ALL pay for it,whether we want any of it or not), and free education for all is not tennable economically. Yes, if we rolled CEO’s pay back to what it was proportionately in the 80’s we could gather quite a good sum of money to offset some college tuitions.
But what can Bernie do about deans of colleges making obscene salary ?, CEOs making many times what they made in the 1980’s, while the regular employee pay may have perhaps doubled.
Australia has sort of what Bernie talks about ,but much smarter. A friend just wrote that anyone who wants to study can take a loan ,and start paying it back in reasonable amounts after that graduate makes a certain salary. It is doable, and people do it. It works. In our so called healthcare system, there is no focus on health, as it does no make any money. That is not likely to change if we were to declare a single payer system. Prevention care would not be included as yet again it makes no money for drug and expensive medical test equipment .
manufacturers. We know that Wall Street is pushing Hillary. Who is pushing for Bernie ?
I actually voted for Clinton both times he won. I did support Hillary until she opened her mouth and I listened. Bernie came on to the scene and opened my eyes further. If we had OPEN voting where we could speak with our vote Bernie would be ahead. Instead we Independents have been shut out of so many states. (Not American). If Bernie does not get the DEM nomination, I hope he goes in as an Independent. Both Clinton & Trump have more Dislikes than Likes. Bernie could win but it would take a lot of work from many of us. Anyone with me?
I had been a registered Democrat since 1962 and voted in every election I was eligible to vote in since then. I generally vote though for who I feel is best qualified for the position and only turn to party when both candidates are similarly qualified. In the vast majority of times I have though voted for a Democrat.
However, a couple of years back I changed my affiliation from the Democratic party to the Republican party. That does not mean or suggest I consider the Republicans better qualified to run our nation; not hardly. I do not believe it is the party of the President that makes or breaks the nation; that is – not until Obama became our president. More exactly; it is the ability of the leader (the President) to set a favorable national agenda designed to keep the country safe, strong, sound and always moving forward; that should be the agenda of ALL in politics regardless of their party affiliation. Supporting that MUST BE a president who is willing and capable of working with all elected representatives to ensure ALL AMERINCA voters are properly represented and recognized. There should never be a president considered to be Republican or Democrat (or other) through actions – they are and should by priority – put America (ALL of America) first and always!
A successful leader has the ability to surround himself with the right people who are ready to review the issues, listen to all sides of the issue, debate, compromise and move forward; the “NO” action attitude is absurd and as the past years has shown; leads only to failure in government.
My reason for changing party affiliation is for no better reason that the up front, in your face, argue and debate attitude of the Republican party. In contrast to the Democratic ideology that seems to have become a solid “Follow the Leader” approach to everything. It is seldom one will ever hear anyone form the Democratic party debate or argue or even criticize the Democratic party leadership.
The Democratic party has become one of followers rather than men and women capable of forward looking, sound thinking and flexible reasoning. It seems the Democrats desire to recruit as many people into their ranks as possible has been directed to grabbing anyone who will vote; the party has become saturated with people who without thought or question just do and say as the democratic leadership suggests; no questions, no debates, no concern regardless whether it is best for the nation or the American people.
Many in the Democratic party seem to have become brain washed and like dominos stacked in a row, they stand up when told to do so and fall down just as fast when told to, seldom (never for most of them) is reason or cause questioned. .
I make it a habit to study the issues that concern me and the politicians who are addressing and pushing actions that are pertinent to what I consider as most important to our country and the American people!
After a while It becomes easy to see who is doing their job as a representative of their constituents and who, by pattern, are showing they are being influenced by someone other than those the representative is, thru the election process and duty,
I certainly hope you are taking every opportunity to pass your comments on to every member of your family, your relatives, neighbors, friends and associates.
We must stand and do what ever we can to see Hillary Clinton becomes a thing of the past by the end of this year.
Thank you for your voice and your opinion, and thank you for working to save America!
Cheating, lying scum sucking democrats will not be defeated by this bunch of idiotic conservatives we have right now.
I am a life long Dem. I will die and go to hell before I will vote for that lying Bitch.
If Mr. Sanders loses, then I will go with Trump, without question. The Clintons need to be in jail, along with Obamas.
Bless you for desiring to preserve our Democracy. The present occupant of the White House is working feverishly to destroy it and Ms Rotten Clinton wants to make history by confirming our demise as a democracy.
Happy real Americans are awakening to the truth behind ms clinton’s plan.
American Citizen-
America was founded and ran well for a long time as a Republic; it was when people got deceived into thinking that it was a democracy that things went straight to hell.
i hope you don’t believe me; if you don’t, i have a couple of easy homework assignments for you, then a hard one:
1. Recite the Pledge of Allegiance. Stop when you get to the word “democracy.”
2. Read the Constitution. Find the word “democracy” in it ANYwhere.
Now, the hard one:
Look up the differences between a democracy and a Republic, then tell me what those differences are.
Those who founded this country and framed it’s Constitution(or ratified it) quite despised democracy; can you tell me why?
Constitutionalist:
Thank God, Somebody is getting it Right!
THANK YOU A THOUSAND TIMES OVER.
Democracy is not far from a dictatorship and we have been teetering on the edge since the sixties. It never ceases to amaze me how voters can flock to the Democratic party. For example, back in the mid 1950’s, Dwight D. Eisenhower (Republican) tried to pass an equal rights bill and it was killed by a Democratic Congress. That is what triggered the riots of the ’60’s and it was that same bill that Kennedy pushed through for political reasons. Also, if you are wondering what happened to Social Security?? Lyndon Johnson (Democrat) took it out of the secured fund and put it in the general fund so that Congress could spend it. Then along came Jimmy Carter (Democrat) who decided to give it away to every deadbeat in America whether they had ever struck a lick of work or not. Since Social Security is paid by employee and employer, I would call this Socialism on steroids and that is why SS is broke today.
Socialism works fine until you run out of other peoples money……. (Margret Thatcher)
I’m not an expert, but I know our Founders preferred to limit the public’s voting rights. I guess they had little faith in the masses. We would only vote if we owned property. I guess this is because property tax was the largest source of funds for government-along with duties/tariffs. Also these eligible voters only voted for their Congressional Representative. Senators were elected by Representatives, and Senators/Representatives elected the President. I would be in favor of a modern version of this-only eligible to vote if you’re paying taxes. No deadbeats should vote!!
Arthur Hartsock:
No deadbeats should vote!!
AMEN Arthur, In order to have respect and honor for a Nation, one must all put some skin in the game. I also think that they ought to reinstate the draft, if for no other reason but to teach people what FREEDOM really means. Folks, When you have to crawl through the mud and blood, dodging bullets you get a whole new prospective on what America is all about and it has a way of keeping you humble, but proud to be a part of this great Nation. America is not just a parcel of land…… it is a way of life and it is every person who breathes her air. Just think people, every time a soldier makes a sacrifice, he/she is doing it as a very special gift to YOU personally…………. That gift is FREEDOM for you and your posterity.
Arthur your on the right track .but personally I think we need to eliminate electoral vote .watt we need is 1 vote 1 man or woman .and only working class and business owners allowed to vote .this will put the people of the USA in charge of our Owen destiny
I can agree with you on the draft; I believe every person before their 21st birthday, should have to spend at least one year in the military or in government service. Students completing high school in the top 5% of their class or who have achieved a special HIGH rating in public participation activities ( youth programs, special community/national improvement programs, etc.) would be able to spend their year in a state or federal agency as an intern type employee. Provisions would have to be made to see opportunities NEVER favored special families such as based on politics, wealth or influences other than the individuals whole person consideration (school from day one, participation, etc.).
That year in the military would develop an ability to quickly respond to national emergencies be it a disaster or military conflict. At the end of the one year service, students would have a clear path to quickly respond to fill essential national needs’ knowing where they would be directed in event of a major conflict (specialty they would be ready to perform), they would learn comradery, first aid, survival, military skills, how to lead and how to follow, emergency management, and renew our American core values. They would then be subject to immediate recall for military service at varying degrees from three years to 15 years. Personal influences for options as we saw so often in the draft of the past would be a felony and prosecution of those attempting to criminally violate.!
I do not suggest that every kid must grow up to be a solder but I do advocate that EVERY AMERICAN, and those who want to think they are an American, WILL BE READY TO DEFEND OUR COUNTRY – defend against enemies foreign and domestic, on our borders, on our streets and thru the doors of crooked, elected officials at ALL levels of government!
If people cannot be loyal to our country, obey our laws, stand up for it and ensure our constitution and laws are always properly and functionally carried out, maybe there is another place in the world for them!
I certainly hope you are taking every opportunity to pass your comments on to every member of your family, your relatives, neighbors, friends and associates. As individuals we can voice or opinions but when we are faced with a four year old fund raising activity and politicians who have been living off the special interest groups for years and years we can nor match the political advantages of money and media pressures.
We must stand and do what little we can to see Hillary Clinton becomes a thing of the past by the end of this year.
Thank you for your voice and your opinion, and thank you for working to save America!
Dwayne:
I am no different than you or several others on the horn, Sir. I’m just a man who loves America and is willing to sacrifice for her, just like you and other Patriots
GOD BLESS WE THE PEOPLE…… AMERICA!
barry: eliminate electoral vote .watt we need is 1 vote 1 man or woman
I respectively wish to reply to barry above. I once felt the same as you sir; but someone corrected my thinking. If we did as you say, then the bigger states with the larger population would rule the election. What we need is a REDO on the electoral college to where we do away with the special interest delegates and make the delegates just a number indicating the districts instead of a human being who can be bought off. I’m not sure that I know what I am talking about, but like you I know that something needs to be done to put the election back into the hands of the people and make the electoral vote coincide more with the popular vote. There again, I am not saying that I am for the electoral college; like you, I think there should be a more fare way to do it.
God bless you for your post, I believe that We The People need to take some sort of action on this issue, for sure.
The Democrat party went down the drain when JFK died.
I agree, the dems went hay-wire after the great JFK, no more will I vote for a dem again, I once was a dem but NO MORE!!!
So will I
And saying that she would consider sanders as a vice president.
She really think she has the cat in the bag .
ONLY IN HER DREAMS.
I think the only way sanders would Do that is try to keep this country from going to hell.
But I think that sanders supporters would back trump If that would happen.
Its Bernie OR TRUMP and I feel this could happen if sanders would accept to be her vice president.
Un likely that will happen,
I do not think Bernie would want to stand beside her after all the crimes she has done to our country.
If it comes down to that Trump will be President.
I left the Democrat party a couple of years ago after being a registered Demo for well over 50 years. I could no longer see myself being a part of a failed system of “follow the leader regardless” that the Democratic party has become. Without argument or hesitation it seems the voice of America has been taken over by party leaders; in the democratic party it has become with question you do as the leaders says. In the Republican party we are seeing a similar effort; senior Republican members are mustering to sent the agendas and an expectation of what elected Republicans will or will not represent – but, members are ready to stand up and argue with them. voice their opinions and argue for the best for the nation and the people.
Taking “years” for DemocRats to recover is far too short, even decades isn’t long enough. Same for those Elitist neocon chamberpot nwo repubs too. A pox on both of them.
Why won’t the so-called Democrat party simply rename itself as the American Communist Party? A rose by any other name, still stinks if it is the liberal-progressive-Marxist-so-called-Democrat party, These people are vile creatures working to destroy the USA.
FIRST OF ALL, I WISH THE YOUNG PEOPLE WOULD OR COULD UNDERSTAND THAT EVEN WITH BERNIE, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS FREE—SOMEONE HAS TO PAY & MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE IN “FREE STUFF” !!! SURELY THEIR PARENTS TAUGHT THEM THIS !???? AND WITH HILLARY, WE’LL HAVE OBAMA FOR ANOTHER 4 OR 8 YEARS !!! I MISS OUR NATION WITH MORALS & MOST OF ALL OUR GOD!! GOD IS THE VERY FABRIC TO AN ACCOMPLISHED COUNTRY !!! PEOPLE REALLY NEED TO WAKE UP TO TRUTH & NOT FANTASIES OR MORE DIFFICULTY !!!
YOU ARE RIGHT ON THAT ONE.
Free is a very interesting word…like the “Cheap strawberries” Californians think are kept cheap by labor from Illegal Aliens. I had to explain to a friend from California that her “Cheap Strawberries” cost in fact about $ 20, not $ 2, when she factors in the state taxes lavished on illegal aliens, food stamps, welfare, births in hospitals, etc.
She just gasped when this settled in for her.
Keep up the good work of educating people. there is no such thing as free ride. Somebody has to ‘pay the piper”.And it is you , and me. – Having to watch how someone ruins their liver by drinking, and then lines up for a free transplant, which they readily ruin again (by drinking) has been very painful. (A neighbor.) Subsidizing abuse is not a democratic thing. It is plain stupid.
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Amen to that. God has his hand on us right now. But if we elect Hillary or Bernie for that matter…He will take his hand off us and let us go the way of the rest of the world. When I voted in our Presidential Primary, my husband wanted to vote for Rubio. I had been praying for God to lead me to make the right choice. Because of my husband, I started to vote for Rubio…..however, I just couldn’t do it….I voted for Trump. My husband later decided he liked Cruz, because of Rubio’ s silly shenanigans. After finding out that Cruz was less than honest he has decided that he likes Trump. I believe, I hope that Trump is God’s choice. At any rate he is our presumptive nominee. So let’s get behind him and get him elected to the Presidency of the United states of America.
What can we expect from our young men and women today?
Look at what they have come to age under!
A president who has turned his back on the America workers. A president who has taken it upon himself to decided what part of the constitution he will follow and what laws he will ignore or support – or twist to hos won preference and agenda.
A president who has made it clear the people of America are the “J.V.” team of the world as he turns much of our nation over to those who elect to come here in violation of our laws and take our jobs in violation of our laws while he sets back and fails to do anything to keep America strong, safe and proud.
Obama’s agenda has taken millions and millions of Americans away from the job market and now feeds them, clothes them, medicates and cares for them. The kids who grew up knowing their lives would be a picture of their efforts to succeed have learned they can survive without working, they will get what they need as Democrats continue handing out more and more with no other commitment than a vote for the right person!
It is so important that American grand parents, parents and older family members get kids to recalling and living the America spirit. They are and will be what they make of themselves; not them nor this nation will be any better than what they allow. A nation built on handouts will be weak and ready to accept what FREE has to offer!
Listen to Hillary Clinton; she sells the idea that all is free, America will succeed because she will see everyone gets what they want even when they do not derive it; I think often that must be the way she was raised, a mentality built around the lies and cheating that got her where she is today. Considering that – why would any young person want to become known as a lire, a cheat, and a threat to the American way of life?
Look, all these pro-Clinton articles are making it look like it is Sanders who is destroying the democratic party …
and guess what … you are all wrong! It is the Clinton campaign and the DNC who are self destructing because
of their brazen rigged elections/debates/polls/smears/etc.etc. Clinton now has a more negative rating than Trump.
Why? Not because of Sanders. Sanders has always been way too nice to this crackpot and stays on the issues.
Everyday a new source brings to light a scandal connected to the Clintons, mainly dirty filthy money that they
have funneled over the years at the cost of lives, severe human rights abuses, etc.
So what do they expect? I would not vote for her if she was the last man standing~
Hillary, needs to be in jail, I don’t understand how anyone could vote for that Bitch. I would love to see her and those pantsuits
that she never pulls off behind bars. I think she might be transgender. she is so butch. I can see the reason that made slick willie
such a cheater. I can only Imagine what is under those pantsuits.lol…………..
she thinks she can run a country when she couldn’t even keep her home together. I will vote for trump or not vote.
I’m going to guess that if the Democrats lose in a landslide in November that they will revise their rules to prevent non-Democrats from joining the party to run for president. Part of the problem comes from the party settling on Hillary at the outset rather than opening the primary to all Democrats. Bernie seized the opportunity and has shown how weak of a candidate Hillary is.
If anyone has any remaining doubts about socialism, even after the collapse of Soviet Russia, take a look at Venezuela. In 17 years of socialism, it has gone from a relatively prosperous country to a starving hell hole. I do not want that to happen in the US.
And having a paranoid, vindictive, nut President like Hillary Clinton could have even quicker disastrous effects.
Ernie-
Just got a great quote about socialism(though i have MANY); this new one goes like this:
“Socialism is not in the least what it pretends to be. It is not the pioneer of a better and finer world, but the spoiler of what thousands of years of civilization have created. It does not build, it destroys. For destruction is the essence of it. It produces nothing, it only consumes what the social order based on private ownership in the means of production has created.”
— Ludwig von Mises(1881-1973) Economist and social philosopher
Source: “Socialism”, 1922
For sure! And what about Cuba?
Look at any Communist (read Socialist) country and see just how the people really fare there…and, by the way,
you wouldn’t be allowed to post comments such as your read here on The Horn!
SOCIALISTS….! Think about it! Everyone wants a FREE America! (Don’t you?)
I have voted Democrat most of my life, but not in this election! I do not want Hillary Clinton as president, as she will just continue with Barry’s agenda. I live in NYS and as Senator, she didn’t accomplish very much at all. We need a “breath of fresh air” in Washington, DC. Trump has his faults, but I am willing to take a chance with him.
The enthusiasm for both Trump and Sanders shows how many Americans are finally fed up with what our major political parties have become. At last we may see some productive changes in the system. Since it looks like Sanders will not win the nomination, the changes for the Democrats will come after the election. With Trump’s success, however, the Republicans are starting to change – or at least act like it – even now.
The problem is that as the old-guard Republican hacks are sucking up to the presumptive nominee, Trump, the old con man, is also changing by falling for these Republican cons. He is starting to look like those old hacks. He is backing away from his outspoken positions on immigration and tax policy. He has backed off his pretended self-funding of his campaign and is now forming Super PACs and accepting hundreds of millions of dollars from special interests. I am afraid that by the time the conventions are over Trump is going to start wearing pantsuits so we won’t be able to tell him from Hillary Clinton.
A few years ago the “Occupy” movement started to wake us up to the problems caused by the inordinate power given to the self-serving, self-interested 1%. We have lost that focus and are going back to sleep. The 1-percenters running the political parties are again giving us 1-percenters as candidates. Perhaps we are beginning to move toward productive change, but we are not there yet.
This biotch, has got some stones, Bernie should take that finger pointed at him and beak it off in her arse, she has screwed him trough the whole primary elections, voter fraud, paying off delegates, everything else that she could do, and the JEW, schitz of the DNC, ramrodding for her, it is totally disgusting, and yet if continues to go on, I hope Bernie stays in until the very end, it will show more of the same and then the people can show her in the general election, what they think of her and vote for independent Bernie or Trump, and leaving her by the gutter to rot
Bernie has to stay till the end, so it can all blow up in the open. Voter theft has been reported by hundreds of thousands. People arrived at poling places, after they SPECIFICALLY registered so they can vote for Sanders, and found out they were not listed as Democrats, and told that sorry, clerical error, too bad you traveled so far, but you ain’t got to vote.
How can the clerical errors be punished , who is in charge ? With the yoyo Wassermann openly admitting Killary is her horse, how can she still be in charge of the Presidential run process ?
The longer Bernie stays in the more we learn about Killary’s deception during an election.
how about that that goofy azz pelosy. fine bunch of women. washerwoman Schultz. big mouth boxer. pelosy… people are getting really angry.
Clearly you are getting angry. But come on, lady, do or say something constructive instead of wasting your time and the time of anyone who is reading here by calling people meaningless names.
Louis:
There are MANY American Patriots who truly love their Country that are very angry right now; reason being, there is no way to fix stupid! as far as saying something constructive, sir: you can’t make chicken salad out of chicken $hi#. Even Solomon told of our predicament in Ecc.10:5-7 when he said: “There is an evil which I have seen under the sun, as an error which proceedeth from the ruler: Folly is set in great dignity, and the rich sit in low place. I have seen servants upon horses, and princes walking as servants upon the earth”. It should be clear by now that YES we are angry and the days of white washing evil are over!
Well, we could get them both out of the country. Shultz could be appointed Ambassador to Austria and Pelosi to Poland. Joe Biden would be good choice for Liechtenstein. And send Barbara Boxer to China.
I watched his rally last night, 19 May 2016, in New Jersey. I didn’t see anthing different in his platform from when he started last year.
Where’s the proof of what your saying?
In an interview on Fox Radio News last week Trump said that his proposal for either a temporary or indefinite ban on Muslim immigrants was “just a suggestion.” He has had his toady – excuse me, I meant “man on the Hill” – Rep. Chris Collins (R-NY) explain that the wall called for along the Mexican border would be a “virtual wall,” not a real wall; and that the deportation of illegal immigrants promise really meant “they go out that door, they go in that room, they get their work papers, Social Security number, then they come in that door, and they’ve got legal work status but are not citizens of the United States.” He has brought in Republican establishment economists Stephen Moore and Larry Kudlow to change what he has pretended was his tax reform proposal. I hope they do make radical changes because Trump’s own “plan” would result in an average tax cut of $128 for those who need it, a cut of of $175,000 per person per year for the top 1%, and a cut of $1.3 million per year for the top 10% of that 1% (this is all according to the conservative Tax Policy Center (http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/publications/analysis-donald-trumps-tax-plan/full). Stories about the money coming in from PACs and the $100 million commitment from GOP super-donor Sheldon Adelson (about whom Trump previously called a person “looking to give big dollars to Rubio because he feels he can mold him into his perfect little puppet”) are everywhere, so I won’t bother with further explanation of those.
Louis, you may be well-meaning, but truly, repeating misquotes, half-truths and political nonsense as told by the anti-Trump brigade doesn’t really do much for your integrity. OK, everyone knows you are against Trump – but to repeat some of the nonsense that is being brought out against The Donald is really a little rediculous. The anti-Trump Brigade has really only imagined or proposed much of the so-called facts, especially with their interpretations, for example, of Trump’s tax policies:-“The Trump campaign has not specified how it would limititemized deductions, but we have assumed the limitations would take the following form…” They have ASSUMED…and by the way, is there such a word as “LIMITITEMIZED” ???
I don’t think so!
Such nonsense doesn’t do much for the authors’ credibility. By the way, please note the disclaimer in that article which says that what they have written is their own ‘assumptions’ (my term) and not an official Tax Policy.
The so-called economists Moore and Kudlow are typical – they can twist figures and facts whichever way they please to suit their agenda – or more realistically, that of Rep/ Chris Collins who is trying desperately to smear D.Trump’s reputation/ policies. (Which, by the way, if you want to get the CORRECT details, one should listen to them direct from the “horse’s mouth.” Not from those who have an ‘axe to grind,’ and twist the real facts!)
PLEASE NOTE that the authors’ repeat continually, that they “assume” the Tax Policy theories which they “assume” will occur under D.Trump!
Finally, surely The Donald would be a far better choice for POTUS than Ms. Clinton?!
I’ve had the same concerns with Trump. However, he is shrewd. He won’t be bought. He won’t be used. He will use the money to his advantage to win. His goal is still to make America Great Again which requires breaking the corrupt mold. I really think that is still his goal.
My 89 yr old mother a life long Democrate, voted for BS because she could NOT vote for Killary for all of the same reasons on the above post. But She will Vote for Trump. She is Active and keeps up on Politics . She says all the time It’s about time someone whats to put America First.
LOL Bernie Sanders labeled as BS
Expected outcome with Debbie Wasserman Schultz heading up the DNC and with the nominees of Sanders & Clinton – what a trio of “losers”.
She is already planning on her husband doing the president’s work. Two paychecks for one job!!
Gitmo should be the next residence of the Clintons along with the Obama clan. imagine a homecoming including the department of injustice clowns. they should also take chumlee with them.
The Democratic Party of today is not the Democratic Party of the 1950’S. It has allowed itself to be hijacked by minorities, illegal immigrants and others who want something for nothing from the government. It has adopted policies that have weakened the US both domestically and internationally. Once upon a time, it was a pro American party of working class Americans who had a soft spot for those down on their luck. It has since been taken over by those who would rather demand government assistance than work for a living. The old 1950’s Democrats have in effect been throw out of the party.
On the other hand, the Republican Party has become Democrat Light, abandoning the principles that made America great and adopted many Democratic platforms in an attempt to “compromise” and attempt to attract middle of the roaders. to its cause. As a result, they have become “RINOS” and have failed to do what the American people elected them to do. Notwithstanding their majorities in both the House and the Senate, they have failed to stop many of the power grabs by our Community Organizer in Chief. In fact, they haven’t even tried.
Along comes Donald Trump. Nobody is sure whether he is Conservative or Liberal, Democrat or Republican, presidential or crude. All we know is that he makes things happen, he has the grommets to stand up to the obstructionists in Congress, and either way, he will be a definite change from the status quo. We really don’t know for sure which way he will turn, but if half of what he says comes to pass, we’ll all be a hell of a lot better off than we are now.
AMEN
David D. Would you venture to say that The “Democratic ‘ Party is Finished ? ( Thanx to Such as H.And B. Clinton…AND b. Obama who Put the Finishing Touch to THE Cake ??) Actually, There has Not been A Two-party ‘Set-up’ in this Country in At least twenty Plus Years ! We, The Citizens Of this Country..Cannot Tell Where The Red Turns Blue ( and Vice-versa ) These DAYS. This did not Just Come about in the Last two…TERMS Of Obama. HE Knew what his Protocol Was supposed to Accomplish when he ‘took his oath on the Koran. ‘ It was no ”miss- slip of his ..He knew what he was Doing. But how well does He think he is Going to DO.. Once he IS OUT ?? He has Done so much Damage to Our Country.. that it will Require TWO Terms for A ‘turn-a-round To be done. The only MAN..( That I see still Standing.. On the horizon.. who can accomplish this, and In a Successful Manner, IS TRUMP ) I would say, 90% of The Opposition HE will HAVE.. will be Coming from the 2 % echelon…. for the simple reason he is going to Do All In HIS Power..To Even Up the Playing Field , while seeking justice for all.
NICE TO KNOW THAT THE INTELLIGENT DEMOCRATS ARE FINALLY SEEING THE LIGHT OF DAY ABOUT THE CLINTONS!!!
The whole Progressive Communist push is Un American. Americans told them to stop last election, They threw democrats out in droves. But instead they just hammered down on this Political correct, and giving everything away at tax payers expense, Not stopping the illegal immigration flow, Letting go Criminal Illegal aliens from Prisons, Its non stop letting other criminals out of Prison, Not to mention letting Terrorists go. They can’t win
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The way I see it, there is a 50/50 chance that Clinton will drop out. If she does not, a lot of the people supporting Sanders will switch to Trump. Trump can ruin it all by becoming an establishment candidate, which he shows signs of doing. To the voters this will be a referendum on the establishments, more than anything.
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I agree with everything you ppl say, don,t dump trump. he is a doer.yay, yaya.
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Don’t be misled by the news media or Ms. Clinton as to who can be the Democratic candidate. Bernie Sanders is growing in popularity as the populace realizes that neither Clinton nor Trump are the best for the country, and that Bernie is the only candidate that will lead us out of the morass that big money has us in. Stay tuned for a great upswell for Bernie, a wise and honest President to be!!
Joel-
Unless The Liar is taken out before the D convention, Bernie doesn’t stand a chance. The Liar “fixed” things from BEFORE the start of the primary season(see the 500+ “superdelegates”), as evidenced by charges of “cheating” in EVERY CONTEST SHE ‘won.’ Americans know that, and if she ends up being the D candidate, there will be a landslide win for Trump. Nobody likes a cheater, especially those who cheat to win. They cheat themselves, and few will vote for the cheating, lying, murderous, treasonous war-hawk lesbo.
OTOH, if she’s indicted prior to the Convention, that would push Bernie to the forefront, and he’ll really give Trump a run for his money(so to speak). Right now, i think that the only D candidate who DOES have a chance against Trump is Sanders.
The sad thing about Sanders is that he apparently actually BELIEVES all the socialist nonsense he’s spouting, which makes him VERY dangerous to America and it’s long-standing principles.
Did you know that socialism was tried at the beginning of this country? Don’t remember which colony ‘t’was offhand, but their plan was that everyone(except the leadership, natcherly) would work together clearing the land, plowing, planting, harvesting, etc., and all would share and share alike(except for the leadership). The problem? The slackers, realizing that working harder wasn’t going to get them any more, slacked off. The diligent, seeing the laziness of the slackers, and knowing that they, too, would get no more for their extra efforts, also slacked off.
Result?
That winter, 90% of the people in that colony
starved
to
death,
not a particularly pleasant way to go, especially during winter.
Next year, new plan: Everyone got their own plot of land, and were free to make anything else they wanted in order to sell it. Colony prospered; “leadership” skimmed off the top, as usual.
Socialism is a terrible governmental theory. This is what every Communist country is, in fact, for none have even come CLOSE to the dream of the “workers paradise.” There’s a “party elite” who get the best stuff, a military/police “middle class” that gets some of the best stuff, too(as long as they keep doctrinally-pure and arrest those they’re ordered to arrest), while the rest make do on virtually nothing, or labor to make stuff in various prison facilities. Cuba to China, USSR to Lithuania, socialism “works” the same in every country…despite Sander’s claims that he’s going for the examples of Denmark, Sweden, and Norway.
i have reams of citations about socialism; don’t tempt me to trot ’em out!
joel
u know your commies, have friends in Sweden 60 to 80% of your wage goes to government , gas cost more per liter than a gallon here. and they have sum of the largest reserves in the world on the north sea. when those kids backing the bern they know not what they want.
Right on, Constitutionalist! Obviously you know more about Socialism/Communism than many who write some of the posts. Socialism has and is failing everywhere…. Look at Hungary, Cuba and all the others!
You could never put these posts here like this in a commie-run country! Take N.Korea and China for instance! Criticise the Govt. and suddenly you disappear….!
You, Joel Daniels, are either a devoted Socialist (read Communist) or are bloody (and I use the term advisedly) totally ignorant about the real effects of this proven evil… I suggest you take a trip to North Korea, China, Cuba, or speak with those who have lived under Marxist rule, as in the former USSR especially when Stalin ruled – Hungary, when their despotic communist leader ( I can’t spell his name, so I won’t try) ruled!
Bernie Sanders wants to make America a Socialist country….Heaven forbid! And Hillary wuld be just as bad – if not worse!
Don’t forget Venezuela. They have no food…nothing to eat.
Well that comment was half right. Bernie can be seen as honest. But to say that he is wise would require a big stretch of the imagination. He is an avowed socialist and socialism has proved to be a failure all over the world. He and Hillary definitely have their differences but in the end one is as bad as the other for this nation.
This should have nothing to do with republicans or democrats. Hillary Clinton is and always has been a hypocritical, lying, scheming, bitch, (my apologies to female dogs). The only people who refuse to admit this are the PARTY supporters. If she is elected the United States of America is TOAST. And the democrats and republicans, ALL AMERICANS will suffer.
Why are people judged according to what they say instead of what they have accomplished? Why can’t people trust logical reasoning instead of emotional values?
A system of morality which is based on relative emotional values is a mere illusion, a thoroughly vulgar conception which has nothing sound in it and nothing true. (Socrates)
Obama was elected on emotional values; Well Dressed, Very Articulate, Handsome, Black, etc.
Do you truly want a Socialist regime?…….. Think about it Democrats! This is not a personal cut to you personally, just a logical observation.
The GOP can not be said to be a party of unity. They were very divided during the last Presidential election and are still squabbling. But the Democrat party has been infiltrated by and the leadership largely taken over by the socialists. And as more traditional Democrats come to realize what has happened to their party the more turbulent things become. Bothe parties are in difficulty but it could indeed mean the collapse of the Democrat Party.
The wisest solution of all…is that Enough People In this Country who Do have The Right to VOTE…Recognizes The Truth about What Hill we ARE all Sliding down NOW..Is Not a Red or a Blue One. It is A Screwed UP Purple…And It will Not Be able TO Wring itself OUT and Back into Shape…until WE Can Kick out Most of WHAT is Roosting in our Guvmt. And Replace Them with Good old American Valued – Principled People WE Can All Believe in…..And can co-exist with ..in a peaceful manner. Is this Still Possible ? I Do Think it is… With the Right Leader In our White House..[.A President Who Can and Will Put the Welfare of The Citizens Ahead of Special interest Groups >>And Stop Allowing This Guvmt. be operated BY ”Big Money that Buys Its` way to Big Money Interests.. Like It has Been Doing for At least the Past twenty Plus Years.] Perhaps Then, The Working Class Will Be Returned To their Rightful Place In this Country… When OUR Manufacturing Jobs Are Returned TO THIS Country. Trump WILL DO This. And THE People Of this Country Will Do THE REST !! Surely we can hold out At least until TRUMP IS OUR President …working for US !!
Just because you do not take an interest in politics doesn’t mean politics won’t take an interest in you!
Pericles (430 B.C.)
I don’t make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts.
Will Rogers
No man’s life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session.
Mark Twain (1866)
The government is like a baby’s alimentary canal, with a happy appetite at one end and no responsibility at the other.
Ronald Reagan
A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.
Thomas Jefferson
Just a few wise statements that confirm in my own mind why we need to elect Mr. Trump. I will close this post with one last quote from Socrates:
I was really too honest a man to be a politician and live. (Socrates)
The truth of Jefferson’s observation has been made clear by D’OweBama’s “Executive Orders,” in which he declared that he has the power(not Constitutionally, he doesn’t) to steal everything all Americans have – in the event of an “emergency” that he – and he alone – gets to define.
IMO, should he ATTEMPT anything akin to completely ignoring the Constitution, all military and all freedom lovers should immediately ignore all such Unconstitutional “orders,” and further, immediately place him under arrest.
My preference would be that he’s handcuffed and frog-marched to the nearest paddywagon, in full view of world-wide teevee.