As the investigation into former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s homebrew email server heats up, those around appear to be scrambling for whatever legal cover they can find.
Longtime Clinton aide Cheryl Mills’ lawyers clashed with watchdog group Judicial Watch during her deposition Saturday, refusing to answer several questions.
What Mills was willing to discuss, however, was Bryan Pagliano, the former State Department employee who helped set up and maintain Clinton’s private email server, The Associated Press reported Wednesday.
And it’s starting to look like the Clinton camp is trying to set up Pagliano as their fall guy.
That same day, Pagliano’s lawyers announced that he was pleading the Fifth, and will refuse to answer questions at his upcoming deposition. Pagliano is apparently concerned that by answering Judicial Watch’s questions about the email server set-up, he could incriminate himself in criminal activity.
It’s a curious position, given Clinton’s repeated assurances that there was nothing illegal about the server or how classified documents were handled on it.
Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton said Tuesday that the extended session with Mills and her attorneys provided more information “about her email system, about its impact on FOIA (public records searches) and the fact that Ms. Mills was talking with Mr. Pagliano about this system after she left the State Department.”
Much of the session, however, devolved into legal objections and sparring between lawyers for Mills and the legal group over how much she could relate without violating careful legal protections she enjoys as Clinton’s privately paid lawyer.
Mills did say she recalled speaking with Pagliano, who worked both as a private technical consultant to Clinton and as a special State Department aide during Clinton’s tenure, as far back as 2008 — a period when Pagliano was still working as an aide for Clinton’s unsuccessful 2008 presidential try. Mills did not characterize the discussions and said she could not recall in detail any discussions at the time about the set-up of Clinton’s email server.
Mills also said she had expected that all the emails that she received from and sent to Clinton’s private email addresses would have been preserved and archived by State officials because her messages originated from the State Department’s email system.
“It was my impression that when she emailed, because it was her practice to email people on their State accounts when she was doing State business, that any of those communications would be captured and maintained by the State Department system,” Mills said.
On Tuesday Clinton said she never instructed any of her aides to “hide the fact that I was using a personal email … it was obvious to many people,” she told MSNBC.
A report from the State Department inspector general last week said that on at least one occasion, a State Department supervisor warned two other agency officials not to raise questions about Clinton’s use of private emails.
“Mr. Pagliano will invoke his right under the Fifth Amendment… at the deposition noticed for June, 6, 2016,” according to a legal motion filed by Pagliano’s lawyers.
Pagliano has reportedly cooperated with the FBI in its separate probe of Clinton’s emails but last year refused to testify to a congressional committee about his work on the email server, which was installed in the basement of the Clinton’s home in Chappaqua, N.Y.
Clinton has said publicly that she is willing to talk with the FBI in its investigation, but said Tuesday in an interview with MSNBC that the agency has not yet scheduled a session with her.
The Associated Press contributed to this article.
Wasn’t Bryan Pagliano given immunity in exchange for his testimony?
I think the real deal is that he has been ‘warned’ by Clinton’s henchmen to keep his mouth shut or else … it appears that Pagliano is more worried about what Hillary will do to him than the FBI. I can’t say that I blame him, given the Clinton’s alleged track record for leaving dead bodies behind.
As I read the article, I was thinking the exact same thing as you, fearing for his life!!
I certainly hope he’s got 24/7 security. Hillary does, no wonder she doesn’t care about open borders, illegal immigration, and refugees that are not fully vetted. Just the votes, just the votes. Aside from all her lying, her disgusting treatment of her security team, and all of her criminal scandalous behavior, she really is a dufus when it comes to the Internet.
they probably threatened his family
I agree with you 57girl, I think that in order to open a seat up on the Supreme Court, they had that judge killed…. To much shady stuff went on there
I was thinking the same thing. Hillary and her rapist husband have left a long trail of corpses in their wake.
Hillery makes the [ WICKED WITCH OF THE WEST] from the story, [ THE WIZARD OF OZ ] Look like a Sunday School Teacher??? Anyone who believes HER LIES would hand over their wallets to the first person who offered to sell them the Brooklyn Bridge, the Washington Monument, or Mount Rushmore??? G ot IT??? Something for Nothing??? Yeah, RIGHT??? LIKE THE MANSION SHE LIVES IN FOR FREE at the expense of New York taxpayers and gets paid rent on the guest house provided for the Secret Service assigned to protect her??? Or did you ALL, FORGET THAT ???
the Clinton Bitches Lies go on and on and on ,when will it end ???,hopefully when her crooked Ass is in Prison ,but the crooked Democrats will not allow that to happen ,
by refusing to talk that is proof that he has a lot of Dirt on the Clintons ,he is afraid because a lot of the Clintons Associates have Been found Dead ,that tells you something Fishy is going on behind Clintons Doors ,he is afraid to tell the Truth ,that is why he pleads the Fifth
To the FBI. This is for Judicial Watch.
The very first thing I thought was, he’s got immunity. But the article does not state that. Hmmm. 1. Maybe the immunity thing is not true. 2. Maybe it is and Clinton forgot and is trying to set up the IT weenee, 3. Maybe setting up an individual with immunity to be the fall guy is some legal technique. Discredit the guy enough and what he says means nothing. All of this is going to end up in a law text book for study. Look for the FBI report to be placed on the AJ’s desk on or about the dem convention. Say a week before. Bernie looses then does FOIA on the report. The report is either good or bad. My take is it’s not all good but not going to jail. It’s the stinky rabbit trails that be more interesting. Then we get Plugs (Biden) or some other acceptable candidate to swoop it and take the nomination. If the same thing happens at the Rep convention (Trump has already won but there will be a first ever delegate recount, a mini version of the hanging chads). We could possibly have a 4 person race for the WH. My guess is the most charismatic candidate will win. Look for a national crisis to hit on or about the last week of October. Real or not the case will be made to shut down all nuclear reactors for safety. With a sizable portion of the country in the dark there will be no election. Can’t run the voting machines. The King will attempt to suspend the Constitution thus allowing his term to not expire. Look for an aircraft carrier near the capital. Endless electricity and a place for congress to meet. After about a week there will be a real crisis with food and water supplies east of the Mississippi critically low especially in pro government leaning states. I want my electricity! Starting up a reactor is not an easy task and I would guess that 50% of them will not start or will not be at full power. Having this kind of a grid shutdown has only been simulated. Let the thing stew for awhile and the election will be the last thing anyone cares about. Maybe by the end of 3 months power will be back on. What a way to stimulate the economy. Brilliant plan…..
I think they made an unbelievable immunity deal in the US’S history given someone Immunity with out getting the hard copy proof of what he was saying! Who is stupid enough to not get hard copy proof when they were giving 100% Immunity! I cant believe their is that dumb of an agent that was either offered enough money to move to a non extradition country or testify against Hillary who those kind of people in her past have either Committed suicide one off them the guy shot himself in the back off the head twice and where they found him their wasn’t any blood evidence so many suicides and accidents look up the record maybe Bryan was told in a nice way but they explained to him what happens to any Clinton close person was going to testify against them I really would for you to look them up but How does a guy shoot himself in the back of his self twice what a trick! If that isn’t the why this went down somebody High up that had access to that evidence and destroyed it! Then the State department comes out and say the stupidest thing I have ever hear to go over the 4 people’s stuff would take them 75 yrs to go though them who ever convinced This guy to say that he has to understand how stupid that sounds stat at step 1 and when you find one crime on any person they go to jail federal Pen 10 yrs then if your still going to tell me it would take 75 yrs , Then offer 100,000,000 to any country who had copied Hillary Hard drive then just send it in an to who who can you trust when you know the only one with that kind of pull Obama himself you better distance your self from this as far as you can because if people don’t go to jail for the easiest thing ever Hillary Admitted it that her personal message’s were more important be cause those cove all the speaking fee’s you actually think Hillary wouldn’t have a hard copy before she signed or any pay to play that was what scared Hillary More she had already taught her staff how to take the headers off the top secret! This is the worst thing that could happen to us are national security, using government accounts to launder money , 3 foundations that are tasked for each thing one was for expenses , one for Laundering, and last all the major play for pay deals one being 150 million. And if the FBI can tie them to the Panama Papers where the Clinton’s have 2 shell companies to hide Bill Made 35 million in speeches each yr! So please check her out thoroughly so your not caught into their web and please don’t be so stupid that you brainwashed Bill Is a Sexual Predator and Hillary wear the pants in that family! Two Secret service man have come out with books about Hillary’s Iron Fist that doesn’t make her so strong Bill Doesn’t give a SHT as long as they have a pulse and if you open you mouth it is said Hillary will rip your heart out!
The deposition in question is part of civil (and not criminal) proceeding. Therefore although Pagliano can refuse to answer the question, his refusal can allow an “adverse inference”
to be drawn against him and his “employer”, HRC.
gnb: Never the less, if the evidence is there and he pleads the fifth, he can still be indicted and sent to jail with all the other criminals involved in this. I believe the FBI already has the evidence to prove they set up an nonsecure server to hide their correspondence and knew classified was being sent over that server.
HEY HILLARY ROME IS BURNING AND YOU ARE NEXT. I WILL PISS ON YOUR GRAVE & LAUGH OUT LOUD YOU SCUM BAG
I’ll gladly donate a sample!
count me in ,
I would say that this guy came into a windfall of money left in the trunk of a new Porsche parked outside his home. Or he was awakened at 3am by three very large gentlemen holding chain saws with a recommendation that “Silence is Golden” (wink,wink).
If investigators aren’t able to get the big fish (Clinton) they are likely to settle for several smaller ones (her aides) as a way of justifying the time spent investigating this matter. At this point it is likely a good idea for any Clinton associate who is asked to testify about the Clinton email fiasco to have legal counsel. By pleading the fifth, this guy is going to look guilty and it is likely to make Hillary look guilty by extension.
Let’s remember Lois Lerner. Any conviction there? Just a nice retirement package.
In her case! “It’s what you know and who you blow”????
There is nothing about Clinton or her claims that rings true.
The “liar’s team” in action is fully supported by the demo-socialists.
It is about the personal desires of Hilary and not about the country!
Imagine what may happen if Hilary is President! It will be much worst than what Nixon did. That is super scary.
How can “public doc” be classified retro-actively or after the fact! That is taking Americans for more than STUPID!
LMAO!!!!!!….He was PAID OFF by the Clintons in some back room deal. Just plead the fifth and we will give you 3-8 million in an account of your choice. Now with the Clintons he may not live to collect
What Mills was willing to discuss, however, was Bryan Pagliano, the former State Department employee who helped set up and maintain Clinton’s private email server, The Associated Press reported Wednesday.
Note to: Bryan Pagliano…you have heard about the Clinton Body Bag count right. Maybe it’s best to come clean now.
AND
Thank you Judicial Watch for at least trying.
Even with all this going on foolish democratic followers are still considering her for the most powerful position in the United States of the world for that matter. How can anyone with her track record even be considered worthy of such a position or is it just a bought and paid for position that she is throwing money at today. She has no successful record of doing anything but lying her arce off about anything. Can you imagine how that will stand up on the world stage when she starts lying there? You think the world is laughing at us today over the Obama elections, wait and see how it reacts if Hillary is elected.
Speaking of foolish Democratic followers, Hilda~Beast is holding a ‘Rally’ in San Diego today, and is expecting, ahh, a turn out of around 300 idiots. I suspect the number of Bernie Sanders supporters/protesters will be about double that number.
Last week Trump drew around 10,000 inside of the convention center, (packed solid toe to toe) and an unannouced number of supporters outside of the convention center, as well as something like 1000 protesters from Move-On.org,
Black Lives (don’t) Matter, Viva La Me hi co, and miscellaneous other George Sorass sponsored Hate groups. Of those, 35 were arrested for failure to disburse after their protest was declared an illegal assembly. (for violence) Vilolence was NOT tolerated and now the protesters are crying ‘police brutality’.
Ironically, the protesters gathered PRIOR to ‘THEIR’ rally at Chicano Park, in the Mexican neighborhood of Barrio Logan, and marched en mass the few miles to the convention center, site of the Trump rally. AFTER the protesters rally was declared an illegal assembly, law enforcement slowly walked the protesters back to the Barrio Logan neighborhood, the area that they had started their protest FROM.
Now, political activist (crybabies) from the Bario Logan community are accusing the police of creating a dangerous situation for ‘THEIR’ community by marching the protesters back into ‘THEIR’ community. (The same community where the protesting groups organized for the event, as well as their starting point for their march)
WTF, OVER. STUPID IS what STUPID DOES.
I still have my hopes that Hillary Clinton will be indicted before the election and it will end her candidacy. I fear though, that the fix is in and we’re all being treated to an extended smokescreen of legitimacy. In that case, we may be left with nothing but hope that enough of the low information voters will abandon her and her baggage.
I agree….THIS MAN HAS BEEN CONTACTED!!!! He has been paid off…..He was so much into telling all..THEN SHUT UP!!!! This is why I think TOO MUCH info is let out by media…..BEHIND THE SCENES is what is needed….then BOOM!!! Him pleading the fifth…..SHOWS he knows something= GUILTY!!! Just because he does not talk, does not mean someone else will……He better watch….they will get him whether he talks or not…..
We need to get the word out on crooked Hillary
It seems there are a lot of people who can’t stand a strong woman who isn’t afraid to disregard federal laws or regulations. It’s tempting, but I don’t think I will vote for her anyway.
The only thing strong about her is her under arm odor
What were you doing under her arm?
Her actions only reflect a weak woman! She will take the low road and that is to lie instead of faceing the truth!????
Plead the Fifth, or plead with the hitman the Clintons will send! An offer he couldn’t refuse!
Hard to believe how many idiots still will vote for her crooked ass
Were in big deep shit if that scum bitch wins!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You have that right!
I believe he woke up one morning with a horse’s head in his bed!
They’re all CROOKED as HELL!!!
law5960
this guy needs to be removed.. what is up with the usa citzens???? this sick ass wipe pleads the 5th and holds back info on hillary clinton the murdering, sick, satanic, psychotic, lying treasonous, clinton foundation poisonous , vial, disgusting, money laundering , evil. pedophile piece of shit.. that was being nice
why are we the people such pussies????
Pagliano was probably reminded of what happened to Judy Gibbs and her family and probably also of Vince Foster… I fully expect to hear of Pagliano’s suicide shortly.. I’ve been expecting it since the FBI subpoenaed him…
I’m not certain how the immunity thing works; pretty sure that the FBI said something along the lines of “Look, you tell us the whole truth, and we guarantee we won’t prosecute you; let us catch you LYING, though, and the whole deal’s off.”
That kind of amnesty is probably not been guaranteed to cover ALL questioners, however, so Pagliano is smart to take the 5th. If Judicial Watch is smart, they’ll ALSO offer him a similar deal, like: “Ok, you tell us all you know about Hillary and her orders to you to set up that illegal server in her closet; tell us what she knew and when she knew it, and we won’t seek any indictments against you, either…but lie to us just once, and the deal’s off.” If Pagliano himself were to make that kind of overture, he’d be setting himself up for a hit. Based on the fact that he very likely spilled his guts to the FBI already, he’d probably be open to that kind of suggestion from Judicial Watch.