A war of words is shaping up between Republican front runner Donald Trump and former Vice President Dick Cheney after Trump’s latest proposal to block all Muslims from entering the United States.
And it looks like Cheney may be the latest member of the GOP mainstream establishment interested in taking Trump down.
Trump defended his plan for a “total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States” by comparing it with President Franklin Roosevelt’s decision to inter Japanese Americans during World War II.
“This is a president who was highly respected by all,” Trump said today. “If you look at what he was doing, it was far worse.”
The idea announced by Trump Monday evening drew swift rebukes, including from Cheney who said it was un-American and an attack on religious liberty. Cheney is a conservative hawk who is believed to have been the driving force behind the decision to invade Iraq in 2003.
“I think this whole notion that we can just say no more Muslims, and just ban a whole religion goes against everything we stand for and believe in,” Cheney said. “Religious freedom has been a very important part of our history and where we came from. … It’s a mistaken notion.”
Legal experts in the United States said that the idea would be unconstitutional.
But Trump didn’t back down, saying that banning all Muslims “until our country’s representatives can figure out what the hell is going on” is warranted after attacks by Muslim extremists in Paris and last week’s shooting in San Bernardino, California, that killed 14.
“We are now at war,” Trump said, adding: “We have a president who doesn’t want to say that.”
Trump’s proposed ban would apply to immigrants and visitors alike, a sweeping prohibition affecting all adherents of a religion practiced by more than a billion people worldwide.
Trump announced his plan to cheers and applause at a Monday evening rally in South Carolina.
“Until we are able to determine and understand this problem an.d the dangerous threat it poses, our country cannot be the victims of horrendous attacks by people that believe only in jihad, and have no sense of reason or respect for human life,” Trump said in a written statement.
At the rally he warned that without drastic action, “it’s going to get worse and worse, you’re going to have more World Trade Centers.”
Rod Weader, a 68-year-old real estate agent from North Charleston who attended the rally and said he agreed with Trump’s plan “150 percent.”
“As he says, we have to find out who they are and why they are here,” he said.
Since the Nov. 13 attacks in Paris that killed 130 people and wounded hundreds more, a number of Republican presidential contenders have proposed restrictions on Syrian refugees — with several suggesting preference for Christians seeking asylum — and tighter surveillance in the U.S.
But Trump’s proposed ban goes much further, and beyond Cheney, other Republican rivals were quick to reject the latest provocation from a candidate who has delivered no shortage of them.
“Donald Trump is unhinged,” Jeb Bush said via Twitter. “His ‘policy’ proposals are not serious.”
John Kasich slammed Trump’s “outrageous divisiveness,” while a more measured Ted Cruz, who has always been cautious about upsetting Trump’s supporters, said, “Well, that is not my policy.”
Trump’s plan also drew criticism from the heads of the Republican Party in Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina, the first three states to vote in next year’s presidential primaries.
“It is un-Republican. It is unconstitutional. And it is un-American,” said Jennifer Horn, chairwoman of the Republican Party of New Hampshire.
Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski said Trump’s proposed ban would apply to “everybody,” including Muslims seeking immigration visas as well as tourists seeking to enter the country.
In an interview on Fox News, Trump said Muslim members of the U.S. armed forces would “come home” and that his plan would “not apply to people living in the country.”
In the late 1800s, Congress passed legislation broadly aimed at halting Chinese immigration. But, said Leti Volpp, a University of California expert on immigration law, “there is no precedent for a religious litmus test for admitting immigrants into the United States.”
The Associated Press contributed to this article
Ralph says
HEY OBAMA FORGOT ABOUT THIS LAW……Islam, by law, is prohibited from US immigration!
The Immigration and Nationality Act passed June 27, 1952 revised the laws relating to immigration, naturalization, and nationality for the United States. That act, which became Public Law 414, established both the law and the intent of Congress regarding the immigration of Aliens to the US and remains in effect today. Among the many issues it covers, one in particular, found in Chapter 2 Section 212, is the prohibition of entry to the US if the Alien belongs to an organization seeking to overthrow the government of the United States by “force, violence, or other unconstitutional means.” This, by its very definition, rules out Islamic immigration to the United States, but this law is being ignored by the White House. Islamic immigration to the US would be prohibited under this law because the Koran, Sharia Law and the Hadith all require complete submission to Islam, which is antithetical to the US government, the Constitution, and to the Republic. All Muslims who attest that the Koran is their life’s guiding principal subscribe to submission to Islam and its form of government. Now the political correct crowd would say that Islamists cannot be prohibited from entering the US because Islam is a religion. Whether it is a religion is immaterial because the law states that Aliens who are affiliated with any “organization” that advocates the overthrow of our government are prohibited.
Patty Patriot says
Great point, Ralph. I also believe this is grounds for not only stopping more Muslims from coming here but also getting rid of the ones that are already here. We nee dto get our states rights back and then if one state wants them thats fine but every state has a big fence to keep people from other states out. If Kennedyland wants Muslims fine, but if Texans don’t want something that should be there right. Tired of the fed sexually assaulting the states.
Barbara Holmes says
America has already done more than our share……
Sue says
Trump is far smarter than those who are coming against him.
He wants to protect our Country and you stupid people too.
Dee says
I believe Donald Trump has it right. He is crass, but he tells the truth on a lot of things.
Go Donald!
dr6 says
Well stated! Most people are probably unaware of this law. It is our responsibility as citizens to demand that our representatives enforce these laws for the security of our nation. It makes perfect sense and to hear Cheney and all the other RINOS say it is unAmerican to close entrance to this country on the basis of religion are not recognizing the brutal reality of what is happening today.
Gene says
You are correct keep the Muslims out, if we did 9/11 would never have happened and what did Dubya do nothing. And then Dubai Cheney sent his company Haliburton to Saudi Arabia.
Bonnie Boyles says
We should stop referring to this Islamic behavior as “religion”. Religion of Peace? I don’t think so!
Patrick Simoniello says
Why then didn’t Trump pick up on this or can it be he is waiting to spring the trap?
Chuck says
During the time of war and threats of war we not only housed Japanese but kept them under guard until things were sorted out. Much like Don thinking as now. I take sides with General Patton. I do not care what the enemy thinks, and their thoughts only it make me wish to clean off their presence from the world. America is our country and we have died to make her free so lets make a stand and rid the enemy from our shore by housing those threats and closing all gates. How many Christians do you know of have killed innocent people and declared war on the world by beheading people? Time to act and stop talking about what we should do.
Sido says
How many Christians do you know of have killed innocent people and declared war on the world by beheading people?
They are doing that all over America. Ask any woman who wants control over her own body and sexual choice. The concentration camps were started by those good Christians’ reply to their Jewish elder brothers ( and artists, free thinkers, and alot of other people). How about those nice people of the Inquisition who tortured to death anone who weren’t Christian as they defined it. how about the Christian wasy of telling people to torture their bodies, abuse themselves with nails, clothes that hurt your skin and much more as standard procedure, etc etc. How about those nice people in Salem who burned people to death because they didn’t follow Christian ways? The Christians, and their two brothers (Hebrew and Islam) are from the same family and have the general same outlook: domination is correct to do to each other, at least from 49% of the population towards 51% (female). Pain is taught as a sign of love and sacred in these brothers’ ideas (and believe me, they are brothers, abusive toxic family brothers, no sisters allowed as full members of the family for any of them…) and it is all unacceptable. From anyone. Christians included.
Granite says
Good grief, Sido. Do you have any concept of the subject matter here. We’re talking about jihad … JIHAD!!! Against every non-muslim. To narrow (and restrict) your views to that of one complication, the treatment of women, falls dangerously short and misses the scope of this crisis.
Dear God in Heaven, save us from jihad and save us from wacko-feministas. Salem was 400 years ago. Shall we go back to the Inquisition and plea only about the horrors on protestants? What is past is not prologue. Salem is ancient history. Face the threat, to all of us, Sido!!
Mamalukino says
As a follow up to your posting and further evidence of the facts presented, I would suggest taking a look at this:
Muslim Imam Explains One HUGE Difference Between Koran and the Bible That Westerners Don’t Understand
http://viral247news.com/muslim-imam-explains-one-huge-difference-between-koran-and-the-bible-that-westerners-dont-understand/
penny mercadante says
Thank you for that, Ralph….Now remind all the critics of Donald Trump of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952. Donald has the right idea…and tell Trump he’s legally in the right…keep out all who would seek to overthrow the government of the United States. Wish we could include barry o in that ban.
JIMMY SMITH says
lets enforce the laws of our country. Obama does not get to make the laws.
nanjo says
Jimmy Smith you are so correct…Obama has tried to change the constitution to his liking, along with many other changes that are ruining our wonderful country. We need to pray for whoever is elected to replace him – they have their work cut out for them.
Diana says
Agree have been telling this for years I live in Mi. Where there are so many a Christian can’t even go in Dearborn with out watching your back even the cops are muslim they partied when the tower went down, they even arrested. Christians because of handing out papers, and the women dress like something out of a horror movie, you come here to have freedom not these people come here to distroy ours, want our laws changed for them no NO and their religion is also a government which is not NOT Alowed here we don’t even recognize their marriages here they live in expensive homes and draw welfare food stamps while Americans live in cars go hungry it is time we stop this in all aspects and get our Constitution back and any judge, governor,senators, congressmen, that don’t is fired and No benefits paid, and while we at it no more excitive order or at least a 2 limit they should have to ask us not do it on their own, and this not able to fire gone you don’t do your job and do it right then your fired, and all need a pay cut, and no raises unless we approve them and if they will not fix obamacare, than that is the only medical they get they are not better than the workers who pay them, to do a job, and quit using our tax money to pay for abortions, welfare for illegals, and other stupid stuff like how a frog mates, the waist has to stop and they need to be held accountable for such waist and if the supreme court can’t go by our laws and Construction with out adding their perverted thoughts than disband it, abortion is murder, queers are immoral, and perverted, and obamacare is illegal, just to name a few. For over 200 yrs. it was good enough and it still is, that is what made us different and yes better than other countries God, Country, Home, and Apple Pie.
Granite says
Thank you, Diana!
Holice Pender says
I believe that Islam is a cult. If it were up to me, the islam ideology would not be granted religious freedom to spread their hatred & sharia law. They should never have been allowed to come into our country or Europe. We should be like Japan & refuse to allow them to become citizens there. They do not have the problems we are having by having to try to accommodate the demands of these nuts. Wait until they increase in numbers & start demanding shira laws. I believe we will have to fight them on our own soils one day, because of stupid politicians making stupid decisions I agree with Mr. Trump 110%.
Janice Kolacy says
Obama does not obey the laws…I do not understand how he can go against them and getaway with it…Fox News just punished 2 of their own for saying something against Obama..what happened to free speech?…they twist Trumps words around the F.B.I said the Muslims have no paper work to compare them with ..and they are being let in any way ..the women as well as the men are killers obviously…so what is with the women and children…boys are being trained to shoot..and kill lots of pictures Isis is posting to show those proud kids waiting to shoot us Christians….how about dropping leaflets 45 minutes before the thousands of bombs being dropped an the total of 116 trucks being hit…something is terribly wrong in our Government…can we survive?
Todd says
AWESOME!! YOU SHOULD SEND THAT TO THE WHITE HOUSE, AS WELL AS TO, INFO WARS, ON UTUBE, THAT GUY WILL BLAST THAT EVERYWHERE! OBAMA CLEARLY BEING A MUSLIM HIMSELF IS, CLEARLY DEFENDING THE VERY PEOPLE WHO WILL END US. VERY DANGEROUS FOR THE UNITED STATES.
Allan says
Very: Very well stated. Our nation appears to want to be lowered to the status of nations who cannot be in harmony amongst themselves. Anyone who truly adheres to the Koran wishes to Dominate other cultures and destroy their religious beliefs and heritage. Our American ancestors worked to damn hard to create a nation based on Christian and Jewish Religions; heritage and cultures to be welcoming those persons who kill to dominate other nations. Statements like the one from Cheney are totally lacking in Wisdom and Analytical breakdown of countries where Islam is dominant. They can’t live with themselves: That’s a Fact: Since they can’t live with themselves there’s no sense of creating any more discombobulation than already evident”
Dexter L. Wilson says
How do we get a complete copy of the law. That way we can send it to our friends and also remind our elected officials how our Muslim in Chief is breaking the law. I wonder if this is enough to impeach the alien.
Dexter L. Wilson says
I agree with you 100%. We do have the option to let in the Christian and Yazidi Syrian Refugees. It shouldn’t be too difficult to recognize them and that could be fairly easy to test. Have the Christians repeat the Apostle Creed. Don’t know any Yazidi faith statements but I doubt seriously the ISIS infiltrators could possibly know the Creed. I do realize that they are (ISIS) to lie like dogs according to Islam, but how many would actually be able to repeat the Creed.
Jay Bell says
Everyone–please send a copy of Ralph’s post to your Republican legislators in Washington and inform your statehouse legislators who are fighting the Muslim invasion in their states. Islam is a religion but as practiced by radicals, it is a political ideology and it is impossible to separate the two. The Constitution does NOT require us to welcome those who would overthrow our Constitution and our system of law. Isn’t it enough that Islamic radicals have already taken over Dearborn, Michigan and replaced our laws with Sharia law? Why we have not sent in the U.S. Army to quell this insurrection is due the NWO socialist/Marxist radicals in Washington. The only difference between Democratic Marxists and NeoCons like Cheney is that the former, like Obama, want it to have a more Islamic/socialist flavor and Cheney wants the NWO to be run by Americans. ALL NWO-globalists, (like many in both the Democratic and Republican parties) want to destabilize this country so that they can bring in their fascist dictatorship. Remember the “Ten Kings” from the Book of Revelation? One of them will, more than likely, be the N. American dictator. There will be others as well. The late (and not lamented) socialist environmental radical, Maurice Strong (he engineered the “global warming” scam) announced, a long time ago, that he and other like-minded wealthy and powerful men had an obligation to bring down the Western nations for their “crimes against the environment”. Strong was a part of the post-WWII, international socialist NWO crowd from practically day one. He became a very wealthy man by supporting it. So did George Soros–the man who did more to gain the Presidency of B.O. than just about any other single human. Soros is, without doubt, the most thoroughly corrupt human imaginable.
joseph muzzillo says
I agree the whitehouse will never stop the muslims because obama father and 1/2 brother are muslims
If it is stated in the immigration law that any one that is looking to over throw america will not be allowed in
this open door policy has to stop The only thing to do is Impeach Obama Get Out of the WHITE HOUSE
Sal says
The Constitution doesn’t mean anything to the Muslim/Traitor in the White House. He couldn’t give a good crap about the Immigration Act of 1952 and neither do the other Liberal Scumbag Democrats or the Liberal Media who will back him all the way. Cheney doesn’t realize that Trump is saying everything that we are thinking and want, so Cheney I use to like you but now you can go F$#K yourself.
dora says
Great work Ralph! And that’s what it is all about is being informed. Meanwhile we have a muslim pres who is sending billions of dollars to the very people that are here to TRY to wipe out Americans! And back at the ranch we have our rinos jumping on the dog pile because Trump makes sense! HALT all incoming until we know what is going on with??? OUR GOVERNMENT!!! Meanwhile obamas administration is having a free for all because we have a bunch of idiots that are more concerned about getting Trump out KNOWING that’s it;s all going to come down to WE THE PEOPLE!! Trump speaks what we live & feel.
GW SMITH says
Send this to D. Trump.
Peter Joffe says
What about the rights of the majority? CNN and its goons are horrified that Trump is fighting for the rights of the majority as are all the other blind American presidential hopefuls. Here are a few clauses from the Quran that show what Muslims are sworn to and this is more than enough to keep them, all of them, out of the USA.
The following sentence is directly to Donald Trump. Please get your best lawyers to look at all the hate and death that is contained in the Quran so that the American people can understand what they are gleefully importing into the USA. They will find that these people have no intention of assimilating as al lof them want Islam to displace progress and peace. The lawyers will find that the Quran is unconstitutional and has no place in the USA.
In Islam, all non-Muslims are called unbelievers or infidels. The treatment of the infidels in Islam is divided into two categories. The polytheists, pagans, idolaters and heathens have the choice of converting to Islam or suffer death. The Jews and Christians, whom the Koran calls people of the book, can retain their religion but on the sufferance of accepting humiliation and subjugation to Islam and payment of Jizyah (poll-tax) to the Islamic rulers [For more detail read this article: Unfettered Religious Freedom in Islam – A Fact or Fiction? – by Alamgir Hussain].
Now, let us have a closer look at what the Koran says about the infidels:-
Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them(2:191)
Make war on the infidels living in your neighbourhood (9:123)
When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them (9:5)
Kill the Jews and the Christians if they do not convert to Islam or refuse to pay Jizya tax (9:29)
Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable (3:85)
The Jews and the Christians are perverts; fight them (9:30)
Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticize Islam. (5:33)
The infidels are unclean; do not let them into a mosque (9:28)
Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water; melt their skin and bellies (22:19)
Do not hanker for peace with the infidels; behead them when you catch them (47:4)
The unbelievers are stupid; urge the Muslims to fight them (8:65)
Muslims must not take the infidels as friends (3:28)
Terrorize and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur’an (8:12)
Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorize the infidels (8:60)
The Qur’an certainly proclaims that when the time is appropriate, Muslims must use force to convert the unbelievers to Islam. For the non-Muslims, the alternative to this is to pay the humiliating protection money (Jizya tax) or be killed (by beheading, of course). A militarily dominant Islam, without doubt, precludes the peaceful co-existence with the unbelievers if the Muslims have to abide strictly by the unalterable stipulations of the Qur’an.
This is why we see very few “moderate” Muslims coming out and speaking against the violence. There is so much overwhelming evidence stacked against them not able to be “moderate” because of the fundamental belief’s of Islam.
Referenced from Islam-Watch. There is much much more. So in order to be ‘politically correct’ Obama is doing what is ‘politically incorrect’ to the people of USA. Please wake up, protect the majority and know that Obama too is bound by his ‘religion of peace’. Islam is not a religion of peace it is a religion of war and the Quran is Islam’s “Meim Kamph.
You tree huggers, you are fighting Trunp so that you can import a virus that will kill the country and the world.
Fierce Look says
FUK him! “US” against them is what it is about and the mentally disordered leftists are siding with the head loppers! God has turned over these ghouls to a reprobate mind as they welcome political suicide and they expect “US” discerning Christians to join them! Armr========================? !
Floyd Hardee says
Great post. I hope you will put it on FB so more folks can see it. It is pretty much what I believe. Any so called religion which orders, or teaches its followers to conquer those around them, or kill them, is not a religion. It is a violent cult, and too dangerous to have any place in our society. Thanks for posting about this issue!
Original Rebel says
Well, if that’s a law and it is still in effect, I am wondering why obama, georgey porgy soros (the hungarian hor who is obama’s puppet master) and all the rest of that cabal, haven’t all been removed from this country. Very curious why our political pimps DO NOTHING TO UPHOLD THE LAWS OF AMERICA!!!
Susan Emberton says
I absolutely remember the O’Bama contrast that started at the onset of his election to be president of the USA. I have yet to see an American birth certificate. It is not legal to be president of the United States, without having been born in America. I feel that O’Bama and all who helped him get elected, should be prosecuted and sentenced harshly, for perpetrating an act of fraud against the citizens of this country. It might even be called treason. How does DICK CHEYNEY , a once vice president of this country to G. W. Bush praise and protect a democrat of the opposing party, seeing all the controversy about his the birth certicat of O’Bama, who, reportedly in the news, was not born in America. Treason, that’s what it seems like to me. During the elections, the news media even had evidence that O’Bama was a member of a muslim church that chanted “Death to America” repeatedly over the 22 years he was a muslim member. To now have this man in office for not one, but two terms, is an outrage. The fact that O’Bama is, reported in the news, to be related to the Bush family, must have played a part in getting a republican party to help him get elected and stay in office for not one, but two terms. I am very angry that our country is now operating in a lawless fashion, and letting the criminals that mean to harm us into this country. I am not a prejudice person and have friends of many faiths, I am an American citizen that is deeply concerned for the legal and natural born citizens of this country. It seems to me that the constitution gives us rights, and the new government takes it away. I also think the Democratic party should have to account for helping O’Bama and his supporters to commit an act of fraud or even treason against our beloved America. It is quickly becomming the land of the weak and greedy, instead of a land of the free and the brave. I want to see the real birth certificate of Mr. O’bama, and see the original records of his birth. Not some make up copies of a nonsequential numbered certificate made up by the people helping O’Bama perpetrate this seemingly fraud and treason against the American public, which, if proven, is not legal.
Susan Emberton says
I don’t think that is the only law O’bama forgot about. What about the law that says a person must be born in America to become president. I still have not seen a legal and official birth certificate, with numbers that match, in sequential order, to the day and year he claims to have been born in Hawaii. I have seen only a Hawaiian Live Certificate of Birth, which can be obtained by almost anyone, even those not born in Hawaii. I cannot understand how a muslim man, that went to a muslim place of worship, that chanted “Death to America” for 22 years, as reported in the news, can possibly be elected President of the United States of America. It is not legal in this country. How can Dick Cheney stand up for this possibly fraudulent act of treason, and betrayal of the people he swore an oath to protect? I hope all of the people involved with this act of seeming fraud or treason, including giving large sums of our American taxpayer’s dollars to other muslim countries, can get out of the law breaking, and possibly treasonous act, and never have to pay, for these acts. I also do not see why Dick Cheney is glad all of this happened to America. Especially after the 911 attacks by muslim jihadists. Maybe it is because O’Bama is related to George H W Bush, as reported in the news. Oh, please let Donald trump be elected in 2016, so we will have a real American for president. A real brave and true man that will do his best. I don’t care if he is bold or brash or even inexperienced in running a country. I KNOW he can run a business very well. I KNOW he loves America, or else he would not even trouble himself, to try to fix all of the wrong doing the past and present presidents have done to this country. I KNOW he has the intelligence to solve problems and the courage and power to fix them, as president. My vote is for a great American that can help make America great again. Please do not lose patience, Mr. Trump, because I feel that this country really needs you, and if there is a fair election, then I KNOW you will win, because we all see the trouble this country is now in. My hopes and prayers, are going out for you, our last hope of recovery of greatness, Mr. Trump. I pray GOD grant you the patience, the courage and the strength to continue your battle to victory at the white house. Our nation will become a fair and great nation again, under your terms in the white house. You, MR. TRUMP, seem to be our last and only hope. MAY GOD BLESS YOU IN ALL OF YOUR ENDEAVORS.
Hoffhack says
Hey Dick! You are a has been now! Un-American? So is gunning down 50 Americans at a Christmas party! When your house is full of cockroaches, you do not invite more in!
Original Rebel says
Exactly! I’m shocked by Cheney’s stance on this. I would have thought his fire and brimstone style of conservatism would have stood him better in his “remarks” regarding Trump’s absolutely common sense statement!!!
Samuel Ulsaker says
All I need to know about Islam I learned on 911. It is time to deIslamize the U.S.A. Islam is a theocracy masquerading as a religion. No Sharia law! Obama is a muslim.
THINK about it.
The Shoe Bomber was a Muslim
The Beltway Snipers were Muslims
The Fort Hood Shooter was a Muslim
The underwear Bomber was a Muslim
The U-S.S. Cole Bombers were Muslims
The Madrid Train Bombers were Muslims
The Bafi Nightclub Bombers were Muslims
The London Subway Bombers were Muslims
The Moscow Theatre Attackers were Muslims
The Boston Marathon Bombers were Muslims
The Pan-Am flight #93 Bombers were Muslims
The Air France Entebbe Hijackers were Muslims
The Iranian Embassy Takeover, was by Muslims
The Beirut U.S. Embassy bombers were Muslims
The Libyan U.S. Embassy Attack was by Musiims
The Buenos Aires Suicide Bombers were Muslims
The Israeli Olympic Team Attackers were Muslims
The Kenyan U.S, Embassy Bombers were Muslims
The Saudi, Khobar Towers Bombers were Muslims
The Beirut Marine Barracks bombers were Muslims
The Besian Russian School Attackers were Muslims
The first World Trade Center Bombers were Muslims
The Bombay & Mumbai India Attackers were Muslims
The Achille Lauro Cruise Ship Hijackers were Muslims
The September 11th 2001 Airline Hijackers were Muslims
The Russian Airliner bombed by ISIS are Muslims
The Paris Massacres ISIS Attackers are Muslims
The San Bernardino Shooters were Muslims
Think of it:
Buddhists living with Hindus = No Problem
Hindus living with Christians = No Problem
Hindus living with Jews = No Problem
Christians living with Shintos = No Problem
Shintos living with Confucians = No Problem
Confusians living with Baha’is = No Problem
Baha’is living with Jews = No Problem
Jews living with Atheists = No Problem
Atheists living with Buddhists = No Problem
Buddhists living with Sikhs = No Problem
Sikhs living with Hindus = No ProblemHindus living with Baha’is = No Problem
Baha’is living with Christians = No Problem
Christians living with Jews = No Problem
Jews living with Buddhists = No Problem
Buddhists living with Shintos = No Problem
Shintos living with Atheists = No Problem
Atheists living with Confucians = No Problem
Confucians living with Hindus = No Problem
Muslims living with Hindus = Problem
Muslims living with Buddhists = Problem
Muslims living with Christians = Problem
Muslims living with Jews = Problem
Muslims living with Sikhs = Problem
Muslims living with Baha’is = Problem
Muslims living with Shintos = Problem
Muslims living with Atheists = Problem
MUSLIMS LIVING WITH MUSLIMS = BIG PROBLEM
**********SO THIS LEAD TO *****************
They are not happy in Gaza
They’re not happy in Egypt
They’re not happy in Libya
They’re not happy in Morocco
They’re not happy in Iran
They’re not happy in Iraq
They’re not happy in Yemen
They’re not happy in Afghanistan
They’re not happy in Pakistan
They’re not happy in Syria
They’re not happy in Lebanon
They’re not happy in Nigeria
They’re not happy in Kenya
They’re not happy in Sudan
******** So, where are they happy? **********
They’re happy in Australia
They’re happy in England
They’re happy in Belgium
They’re happy in France
They’re happy in Italy
They’re happy in Germany
They’re happy in Sweden
They’re happy in the USA & Canada
They’re happy in India
They’re happy in almost every country that is not Islamic! And who do they blame? Not Islam… Not their leadership… Not themselves…
THEY BLAME THE COUNTRIES THEY ARE HAPPY IN!!
And they want to change the countries they’re happy in, to be like the countries they came from where they were unhappy and finally they will be get hammered!!!!
Islamic Jihad: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
ISIS: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Al-Qaeda: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Taliban: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Hamas: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Hezbollah: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Boko Haram: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Al-Nusra: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Abu Sayyaf: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Al-Badr: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Muslim Brotherhood: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Lashkar-e-Taiba: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Palestine Liberation Front: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Ansaru: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Jemaah Islamiyah: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Abdullah Azzam Brigades: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
AND A LOT MORE!!!!!!!
Think about it…….. frown emoticon 20 signs that psychopath Muslims do:
1] Kill any one who insults Islam or Moham-mad. (Quran.33;57-61).
2) Kill all Muslims who leave Islam. (Quran.2;217/4;89/Bukhari.9;84-57).
3) Koran can not be doubted. (Quran.2;1).
4) Islam is the only acceptable religion. (Koran.3;85).
5) Muslims must fight (jihad) to non-Muslims, even if they don’t want to. (Quran.2;216).
6) We the non-Muslims are pigs and apes. (Quran. 2;62-65/Koran.5;59-60/Koran.7;166).
7) We the non-Muslims cannot be friends with Muslims. (Quran.5;51).
We the non-Muslims sworn enemies of Muslims and Islam. (Quran.4;101).
9) We the non-Muslims can be raped as sex slave. (Quran.4;3 & 24/5;89/23;5/33;50/58;3/70;30).
10) We the non-Muslims the vilest of creatures deserving no mercy. (Quran.98;6).
11) Muslim must terrorized us (non-Muslims). (Quran.8;12 &59-60/ Bukhar).
Superdynamite says
Great POST!!!!!!!
Great post!!!!!
Japan has deemed Islam “incompatible with society”. Japan does not have a Muslim problem.
Original Rebel says
I’m just wondering what it’s going to take for Americans to wise up. How many more will be sacrificed by obanana before the sleeping citizens will wake up.
Jeff says
Great Post.
Buzz says
Very well done, Why cant the Dems see any of this instead of inviting more Terrorists in with open arms?
Jay Bell says
The Dems in power CAN see it and it is serving their purposes of bringing in the socialist NWO that they crave (with themselves at the top, of course). They believe in the old adage, “If you want to make an omelet, you must break some eggs.” Only problem for us is that the eggs they want to steal and break are ours.
dora says
Buzz not only the dems but what is supposed to be our support system too!! The ONLY man that had enough class to not jump on that dog pile was Ted Cruz!! Paul Ryan? This is not who we are? I know for a fact he is NOT wearing my shoes!! and guy with the Great Post…well “GREAT POST!!!”
Martin says
Trump says these outrageous things and the rest of the politicals say SHAME! SHAME! Be we…the silent majority who have outwardly caved to all that political correctness bullshit are thinking: RIGHT ON TRUMP! RIGHT ON! The more outrageous he becomes…the more we want him to be our next president! Hillary, Sanders, Jeb, are all bad, bad news!
Robert Hagedorn says
Samuel, PLEASE send your post to Trump!
dean says
all excellent points!
Allan says
We have Vallerie Jarrett from Iran coupled with George Soros as puppet masters of Barry Soetoro from Kenya running an America government down to the ground. Even former persons we respected for their Intelligence; Patriotism; and analytical minds appear to have been brainwashed into accepting the takeover of America by Foreign Infiltration. These infiltrators have no intention whatever of assimilating into our American Culture but rather to Force us into theirs. Whomever the Sargent at Arms is must be one of the aforementioned trio’s buddies since it does appear just cause has been already established to have them arrested. What a can of sardines we got ourselves into not following Our Constitutional Eligibility requirements of Political Appointments.
Steve Dolyniuk says
Obama, the Democrats in Washington, Half of the Republicans in Washington, & all of the Democrat voters & half of the republican voters are too dumb to even care.
Floyd Hardee says
In other words Donald Trump is right. He said he thought the mother knew about the impending massacre. He ahs been way out in front on virtually everything related to our safety. The only one who has supported him in this is Tom Delay who said he is not a fan of Trump, but that he thought Trump made a good point. Of course many of us agree with him also. It seems only the so called old line politicians are against everything he has said or done. They attack him for not having gained a greater lead, but fight hard to keep him from doing so. Then when he surges they start foaming at the mouth.
James says
I wiLloyd vote for trump. And the reason so many try to attack him. Is because they are afraid he will stop the corruption.
Jeff says
I do believe that Trump has America in his heart and would be a great bull dog leader. This is what we need right now.
Allan says
I can’t wait to see how many corrupt individuals will actually have justice doled out to them. Trump we need you and your janitorial franchises to clean out the most rampant corruption every inflicted upon the American Public.
Floyd Hardee says
That is true . Jeff you and Allen are right, as are so many others who have seen through the smoke screen put up by the Liberals who want us to be their docile slaves..
Walt says
Trump is a vicious right wing fascist who doesn’t have a clue how to navigate the waters of international politics and terrorism. He is a simple minded reactionary puppet of terrorism and will do nothing more than repeat the horrific blunders of the last Republican liar and war criminal, George Bush. He will spark a civil war in this country, and that is exactly what the terrorists want. Why should they work to blow us up when we will absolutely do it to ourselves? That ocean of high tech gun loonie weapons WILL be used in the next American civil war…
Sonny says
Trump will not ban all muslims……….. he will just ban all people from dangerous countries. Does that make you feel better. That is perfectly legal!
Buzz says
Walt is A Moron!
Granite says
Repeat: Walt is a moron!
Jeff says
In that war we know what side you will be on.
Allan says
Walt: Donald Trump is on the same Wave and Frequency as Harry S. Truman who engineered America back in to manufacturing products; exporting products and Prosperity right after WW11. With the type of comments you make I do not believe you were around in those times. Lacking T.V. Harry Truman took to the radio waves and Truthfully and Bluntly directed all into the Spirit of Accelerating our Recovery. Recover we did and became the most prosperous; happy, and industrious nation in the world. I’m man enough to accept the Blunt Truth are you?
Steve Dolyniuk says
Walt, you are full of crap. I suppose you think Obama is doing a good job. One thing sure, you can`t fix stupid!
Floyd Hardee says
Bull dookie Walt! You sound like a ringer for the Democrats or old line Rhino’s.
Superdynamite says
Cheney, the lying thief that profited from the Iraqi war, which has now resulted in death and destruction around the globe AND the birth of the Islamic state.
Let’s all listen to Cheney. LOL.
Bye bye dick.
Granite says
God, damn Dick Cheney; now.
Floyd Hardee says
Why didn’t you know? By GEORGE his chain has been pulled and like a puppet he is responding. Why that dastardly Trump is threatening our money making machine and challenging our power! How dare he do that! Read this carefully and you will know who pulled his chain!
Belle says
Islam is not just another religion. It is a fascist political system that wears a facade of religion. It is just as intent on world domination by political/military means as communism. Naive Americans who are used to Christianity have no concept of what Islam is really like. It is not a religion of peace. It is a religion of submission to Islam. Murderous Muslims are not radical. They are simply following the Koran and Mohammed.
Allan says
Belle: Islam has been portraying itself with enough violence recently that anyone who isn’t aware of just how horrible their bloodline is has to be head thick; brain and senses numb to want them infiltrating into America. We had had enough from foreign manipulation by an Iranian; a Kenyan and Soros from heaven knows where to last a lifetime. Islam at any level is Most Dangerous within America. All teachings are for domination over Non Islamics:
Floyd Hardee says
In other words it is really not a peaceful religion, but a dangerous murderous cult, and should not be allowed to be practiced here in our country. So denying them the right to practice it is really not violating the Constitution.
Main street says
Cheney did a lousy job. Thousands of Americans died on Sept 11, 2001. Trump wants to prevent this. Cheney had many deferments to keep him out of the military 45 to 50 years back.. Trump tells the harsh truth. Wealthy status quo folks don’t want to hear it. They fear that their corrupt hold on our government will end if Trump wins.
Main street says
America is supposed to be a melting pot. Yet, in the past few decades most of the immigrants coming here speak Spanish or are Muslim. Irish, Italian, Polish, French, Japanese and Chinese wait years for the hopes of a visa while others can come here easily. Look at the percentages on welfare.
B Moreau says
My neighbors are from England. They are retired and owned a lovely $200,000 vacation home here in the United States where they stayed during the winter months. Every time they tried to come into the United States to enjoy their vacation home they were treated as though they are criminals even though they pay real estate taxes, registered a car here, spent money in the city and patronized local businesses and stayed only as long as their English laws allowed.L They hired an immigration attorney and still could not iron out the problem. This has gone on for seven years. They have now given up and have sold their home, and are only coming for a couple weeks on vacation. Selling their home required a lawyer who understood the law of foreigners owning property here, they had to file for US Social Security numbers and pay money to the IRS. Yet we let undocumented immigrants stay here and actually give them welfare and free medical treatment. What is wrong with this picture.
Main street says
Hardworking and educated Irish, Italians and Taiwanese have the doors shut on them. Then we constantly read about the high crime and welfare rates of those coming here from Central America or Middle East. Ted Kennedy’s 1965 immigration law and Reagan signing the 1986 immigration law caused these issues.
Granite says
Invading Iraq was unequivocally wrong. No matter his approach to governing, Saddam kept a stable nation, free of radical islam. Dick Cheney gave us what we now have in Iraq: A crucible for making terrorism. Thanks, Dick! Get the hell out of here!! You hurt America every time you instigate something.
Floyd Hardee says
You are absolutely right in my mind….and I suspect in the minds of most everybody on here.
bii reeves says
Is it not time to bring the guilty to trail…war crimes if nothing else
…violation of the constitution…using there position for personal gain..
Thomas Luparello says
As Trump points out in response to these latest attacks, his idea is similar to FDR’s in time of war so not something so foreign it flies against precedent. I guess Cheney is no longer “Darth Vader” huh…must be he got a Democrat’s heart with his transplant…He needs to slink off into the shadows of history and remember he is thought of by many as the architect of war crimes and should be prosecuted…Lost his moral and American compass too in these liberal, progressive, socialist times huh…Just saying!
Diane R. Stallone says
President Bush and Congress need to take a proactive approach in dealing with ISIS. They need to send about 30,000 troops over to Syria, surround any members of ISIS and kill them all in one fell swoop. Sending drones has proved to be unsuccessful. We need strong action and it needs to be done now. Otherwise, the USA will be subject to more violent terrorist attacks and possibly another 911 situation. We cannot sit back on our hands with a “wait and see attitude”.
Diana says
No boots on the ground and it is Obama not bush and bush did it wrong to bomb the hell out of them level them and then tell them mess with again we will level the rest of your don’t kill off our young for these terrorist women and kids as well have killed our people, no mercy for terrorists. Sorry but they don’t deserve mercy for those who cut heads off, hang kids on crosses, and want to force there ways on those who don’t want anything to do with it.
Floyd Hardee says
You said President Bush. Didn’t know he was. You probably meant Obama?
sooz22 says
President Bush? Are you asleep?
Doug says
There is no hate speech in this response. There is also no personal attacks. There is no profanity. Simply stating the facts.
What the nuts running the corporate US fail to realize is that Islam is the issue, NOT being Muslim. Islam is NOT a religion. It is NOT protected by freedom of religion. It is absolutely one of the most oppressive, evil and disgusting bunch of sex fiends calling themselves a “religion” so they can use our good and charitable paradigm against us. They SAID that is what they are doing! Valerie Jarrett said it HERSELF that that is what they are doing! Not necessarily about the sex, but about taking over our country from within by using our laws against us. SHE SAID IT!
They are completely all about having sex. Period. Through any means necessary. Including killing the men and boys so they can rape and abuse the women and yes, even the girls. Actually, especially the girls. Females are absolutely nothing but property to be done with as they please.
So, treat them as they are not as they claim. Use the rest of American Law to remove them.
Murder? Oops, that is against the law here.
Rape? Yow! that is against the law here, too!
Child molestation? Holy COW, that is against the law too! Actually no one who is in their right mind would even think of doing this, even if it weren’t illegal.
Beating women just because they are women? Now you’re starting to step on some toes! But that is . . .illegal, too.
Killing men and boys simply because they don’t agree with you? Murder is murder, no matter the reason.
Killing men and boys so you can rape, sell, abuse, beat and otherwise oppress women? Now that is just disgusting besides being illegal.
You have to wonder how many of those demented Islamic daddy’s look at their newborn baby girls and say that they can’t wait until they can . . .. Or they can’t wait until they get old enough for their brother (the man’s brother, not the baby’s brother) to rape them and create another inbred, handicapped child. That don’t happen, does it? Sadly, it DOES!
So, it doesn’t matter who is claiming they have “religious freedom” in America, whether they be Democrat, Republican or whatever. If they have an ounce of sanity, they will see Islam for what it is and do everything in their power to make sure they don’t let those sick sex fiends anywhere near their wives, daughters, nieces, female grandchildren and the list goes on.
You just wait until one of those politicians loses a daughter or wife or some other close family member to Islam and watch them get raped, then sold, then raped again, then beaten because they resisted, then raped again. . .
I’ll stop now. . .Not because it don’t need to be said, but because i am getting sick just thinking about it.
JMHO – YMMV
DS
Floyd Hardee says
Great post Doug!
Sonny says
You don’t ban muslims………… you ban dangerous people from dangerous countries….. Perfectly legal! If they are all muslims, well…… that is just too damn bad, isn’t it? The majority of the people support Trump in this position……….. and the election will prove it. people are so desperate to hurt Trump, they have resorted to bs and lies.
Floyd Hardee says
Amen Sonny!
marlene says
Does anyone ever really listen to cheney anymore? We certainly don’t – and his comments prove we are right in disagreeing with him. Obama’s American is NOT American anymore. Trump’s vision IS!
Steve Dolyniuk says
Obama is a Traitor. Trump is not politically correct like Cheney, Thank God !
Granite says
Thank you, Steve1 GO!!! TRUMP!!!
Floyd Hardee says
The way Cheney was attacked while in office you would think he would stand up for Trump, but no he is still one of the Master’s of the Universe and thinks we should bow down to him and his brothers that rule us. Trump is a threat to their authority and their money making war machines!
Joan says
I’m an American and I’m voting for Trump
Floyd Hardee says
So will I. But understand the Russians have sent him a warning. There is an assassination plot by the master’s of the Universe to kill him. They fear he will be elected P:resident and upset their money making machine and their authority over us. Some folks refer to them as the Illuminati. Call them what you will. Their goal is to select both candidates so they will have control no matter which one wins. There will be an attempt on Trump’s life. Already they have attacked him more than they have any other candidate. And it is getting even more vicious as each day goes by. He needs to quadruple his security and wear a vest. A black preacher said he liked him, but that THEY would never allow him to be president.
mama bear says
Chenny and bush loved the Saudi’s , they got first flight out on 9/11,, and two yrs ago rubio voted with obama to bring in Islam, along with others running..how some of these idiots ever thot they could win is beyond most of us..Rubio while braggins about his American dream from Cuba said, I want everyone to get the same dream here. he also is for open immigration like some others running. it is true we have the right to believe in any religion, but not to be forced or killed and have our country bring in those who will kill us.if we dont bow to theirs. our Army and others have said obama sends money, weapons and trucks , you name it to the enemies. Trump is right and if we want to be free..stand with him..He is a just man who loves this country and will suport our VETS and all our troops the way they should be..our money goes to the arab p 5 that McCain set up for obama. So many will have to fin dout the hard way when we have hundreds of terror attacks all over Amerida and maybe the left will find out they are not loved by Islam either but are used..once Islam gets thousand here they start demanding..just like every where…Obama said when the political winds turn, I will stand with Islam the one truth he spoke..also Islam believes their messiah will come 2016 and Choas brings dictatorship with fear and death.. I will vote for TRUMP like many others and those who vote for Hell hilary will get double what they hate today…Cruz is smart but so is Trump but the bible also says G-d will send jihad to sons of disobeidence…we have thrown G-d out and it brings judgment
Floyd Hardee says
Good post mamma bear!
Dan says
Islam is a political sect that is trying to set up a global caliphate. It completely goes against the constitution, and the constitution goes against sharia law. We need to act now before it is too late, to rid our nation of this unconstitutional EVIL, that are only intent on destroying the fabric of our government and everyone in our country that will not convert. Trump is the only one that understands the nature of the beast, and is the only one that has offered anything reasonable to deal with it.
Floyd Hardee says
I am watching Fox and they are b ringing them out one by one and two by two to attack Trump. They say there is no depth to him. Tha the knows nothing about finances. Perhaps they should check his financial status…like he is worth over $$$$$ Ten Billion Dollars $$$$$. He did not steal it. He knows what to invest in. He knows how to make a deal. He is better qualified than any of them in all categories period!
Brenda Collins says
What’s un-American is the resident imposter potus; himself, his ideologies, his father, which should have, in and of itself, make the imposter ineligible to be President of the United States. How could he have even been vetted an approved, especially when he had his education records sealed. How and why did this happen. Anyone who voted for him, and those who vetted him, and those that approved him is what is un-American, and should have their right to vote revoked, and declared insane. After 9/11, I cannot fathom why/how in the world American citizens could have possibly bought into his lies and voted for him, not once, but two times. It is way past time to impeach him, charge him, try him, convict him, and find him guilty of treason against the United States, along with Hillary, Pelosi, and Reid. They are all guilty of trying to overthrow our constitutional government. Trump un-American, not hardly.
penny mercadante says
Well said, Brenda….I totally agree with all you said. ..
Steve Dolyniuk says
Very good, very true, Brenda.
Floyd Hardee says
We are long past impeaching him. They will not even stand up to him…. and defund his many boondoggle schemes!.
Catman Rocker says
Read the book ” The Trance-Formation of America ” by Cathy O’brien….. She will tell you the truth about the evil Cheney… a man like him needs to be locked up in a cold prison with no food or water…. an evil man… and yes it is time to go to real combat with islam… I am so glad I was trained as an army ranger… wish all my neighbors were… it is time to wipe them out…
Moe Verner says
She claims she was a victim of Illuminati mind control. No thanks. Sounds like a looney.
Floyd Hardee says
May God bless you and all of these who are posting here. Have a nice day guys. Got to go, wish I could stay a lot longer. Your post are so interesting and powerful. Enjoyed myself reading them. Bye for now.
david says
It seems the very leaders who Defy, deface, abuse, or just completely ignore the Constitution, Bill of Rights, are happy to JUMP on those same bandwagons if they see political gain. Obama has pissed all over the Constitution nearly every day he sits his ass behind his desk, but SUDDENLY this is a violation of religious freedoms, or, ” This is not who we are”, who we are Mr President is a Nation under attack BY A RELIGION.. Not by another country, not by some white supremacist group whom everyone keeps waiting to attack and yet never has, but a RELIGION..
And one of the first things I would do as President, is convene a genuine Religious “Council for America”, to examine just what is and is NOT going to be considered a Religion inside the U.S. and its territories. It will have to meet some very simple criteria.
“Does this Religion propagate, allow, encourage abuse of children, especially young girls?”
“Does this Religion tolerate rape of women, abuse of women, womens rights violations, all in the name
of Said Religion?”
“Does this Religion Specifically target, discriminate, call for hostile action against or outright Murder of any
or all who do not follow Said Religion ? ”
“Does this Religion call for the maiming and/or dismemberment of an individual for violating any of the Religious decrees found within its text ? ”
“Does this Religion openly show hostility to LGBT people of society, calling openly for their imprisonment or death simply for being a member of that group?”
If the answer to any of these is Yes, then this religion doesnt qualify AS a religion. And Islam, in its Quran, fails every single one of these and should be declared a Cult of Violence, simply banned outright, and not allowed to be practiced in the U.S. unless it again can meet that criteria. And to do that, you would have to edit out portions of the Quran that violate ANY part of these aforementioned qualifications.
After that, any individual who wishes to then worship Islam will do so with the written and PUBLIC statement of denying any and all you would follow Islam as it is WRITTEN in what will now be called “Obscene Quran” as opposed to “New Quran”.
We have had other “Cults” that have come and gone in the U.S., and have killed people sadly,. Anyone remember Jim Jones ??? his cult ?? and the mass suicide of ALL of his followers, even their children who were forced to take poison ???
Want to live in this country, GREAT, welcome to America., where ALL are free to be free, and do no neighbor harm by using ones Religion as an excuse for murder and violence towards ” non-believers”… Feel free to Preach, but hands off, no touching. And anyone who leaves ANY Religion is FREE to do so, at any time, anywhere they choose..
As I am so disgusted by our leaders constant worries about making sure 4-5 million Muslims have their asses Kissed, while pissing ALL over the 330 Million Americans who are sick and TIRED of being made a target simply because we ARE Americans.
Obama has shown more worry and outright consternation over people possibly saying ” bad words” about Muslims ( MY right, under the Constitution to voice my opinion, Freedom of Speech mr President ), than ANY worry or sadness he has shown towards ANY Victims of violence from Radical Islamic Terrorists… a phrase our President will NEVER UTTER…
I Ask you this, at Any time, has the President shown ONE damn bit of actual emotion and concern for the VICTIMS of Muslim violence, or are his first words always to say ” Islam is a religion of peace, and we cant blame all of them for the acts of a few”.. Yet he calls the 80 million Gun owners terrorists, because of the acts of psychopaths, Islamic terrorists, and anyone else he can think of in order to make a massive gun grab.,, ALL in the name of ” Security”.. WHOSE security Mr President… Yours ??? certainly isnt MY security you are worried about, hell now, you worry about every MUSLIM on the planet as if it is the DUTY of the U.S. to take every single one of them in. A people who as a whole, do NOT TOLERATE 95% of what Americans are free to do every single day of their life, and Muslim Sharia law, a religious law, is seen as SUPERIOR to ANY and ALL U.S. Govt laws…
but that never seems to matter… not for a second, to our alleged President… the biggest traitor and failure in the history of the free world..
Steve Steere says
I really wish Dick Cheney would just keep his mouth shut, what we are has nothing to do about keeping Americans safe. These Muslims want to kill us and this administration is allowing this to happen. This is all the fault of a President who has been an epic failure since day one, Donald Trump has the backbone to tell it like it is and will make America great one again
Joseph Ardito says
http://nation.foxnews.com/2015/01/14/video-muslim-training-guerilla-warfare-new-york
Career corrupted politicians that have shared in the looting of our country’s fortune care nothing about the safety and security of Americans.
Moe Verner says
Try not to generalize Muslims. http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-muslim-fundraise-20151208-story.html
Enforcer says
Is Islam a peaceful religion? Let’s not ask the news sources or the Islamic Studies college profs. Let’s just look at what the Quran itself says. You make the decision for yourself.
Everyone should Keep in Mind that in the 7th. Century the Learned Scholars came together for a conference to study the Koran and found at that time that Mohammad was a cult Leader and the Religion was a Cult in itself, with that being said, It is against the Law to be a cult leader, and it is against the law to be a follower in a Cult. Now the Beginning and end result is clear, this is what Muslims want from all Infidels. They found Mohammad was a self proclaimed Prophet there were no Miracles sent down through him from God, Showing he was nothing but an inventor of a Cult Religion, He choose to write what he wanted for himself for his followers to have through his will, he enslaved women and took all their rights from them. Read for yourself the truth is in the writing
Question:
Does the Quran really contain dozens of verses promoting violence?
Summary Answer:
The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called ‘hypocrites’ and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter.
Unlike nearly all of the Old Testament verses of violence, the verses of violence in the Quran are mostly open-ended, meaning that they are not restrained by the historical context of the surrounding text. They are part of the eternal, unchanging word of Allah, and just as relevant or subject to interpretation as anything else in the Quran.
The context of violent passages is more ambiguous than might be expected of a perfect book from a loving God; however this works both ways. Most of today’s Muslims exercise a personal choice to interpret their holy book’s call to arms according to their own moral preconceptions about justifiable violence. Apologists cater to their preferences with tenuous arguments that gloss over historical fact and generally do not stand up to scrutiny. Still, it is important to note that the problem is not bad people, but bad ideology.
Unfortunately, there are very few verses of tolerance and peace to abrogate or even balance out the many that call for nonbelievers to be fought and subdued until they either accept humiliation, convert to Islam, or are killed. Muhammad’s own martial legacy – and that of his companions – along with the remarkable stress on violence found in the Quran have produced a trail of blood and tears across world history.
The Quran:
Quran (2:191-193) – “And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing…
but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)” (Translation is from the Noble Quran) The verse prior to this (190) refers to “fighting for the cause of Allah those who fight you” leading some to believe that the entire passage refers to a defensive war in which Muslims are defending their homes and families. The historical context of this passage is not defensive warfare, however, since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries. In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did). Verse 190 thus means to fight those who offer resistance to Allah’s rule (ie. Muslim conquest). The use of the word “persecution” by some Muslim translators is disingenuous (the actual Arabic words for persecution – “idtihad” – and oppression – a variation of “z-l-m” – do not appear in the verse). The word used instead, “fitna”, can mean disbelief, or the disorder that results from unbelief or temptation. This is certainly what is meant in this context since the violence is explicitly commissioned “until religion is for Allah” – ie. unbelievers desist in their unbelief.
Quran (2:244) – “Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things.”
Quran (2:216) – “Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not.” Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time. From the Hadith, we know that this verse was narrated at a time that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding merchant caravans for loot.
Quran (3:56) – “As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help.”
Quran (3:151) – “Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority”. This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be ‘joining companions to Allah’).
Quran (4:74) – “Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward.” The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians, who were led meekly to the slaughter. These Muslims are killed in battle as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah. This is the theological basis for today’s suicide bombers.
Quran (4:76) – “Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…”
Part 2. Donald Trump is right as Islam is a Cult. Proven by Scholars
Quran (4:89) – “They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks.”
Quran (4:95) – “Not equal are those of the believers who sit (at home), except those who are disabled (by injury or are blind or lame, etc.), and those who strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with their wealth and their lives. Allah has preferred in grades those who strive hard and fight with their wealth and their lives above those who sit (at home). Unto each, Allah has promised good (Paradise), but Allah has preferred those who strive hard and fight, above those who sit (at home) by a huge reward ” This passage criticizes “peaceful” Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah’s eyes. It also demolishes the modern myth that “Jihad” doesn’t mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle. Not only is this Arabic word (mujahiduna) used in this passage, but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual, since the physically disabled are given exemption. (The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind man’s protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad, which would not make sense if it meant an internal struggle). According to the verse, Allah will allow the disabled into Paradise, but will provide a larger reward to those who are able to kill others in his cause.
Quran (4:104) – “And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain…” Is pursuing an injured and retreating enemy really an act of self-defense?
Quran (5:33) – “The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement”
Quran (8:12) – “I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them” No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle.
Quran (8:15) – “O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (16)Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey’s end.”
Quran (8:39) – “And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion should be only for Allah” Some translations interpret “fitna” as “persecution”, but the traditional understanding of this word is not supported by the historical context (See notes for 2:193). The Meccans were simply refusing Muhammad access to their city during Haj. Other Muslims were allowed to travel there – just not as an armed group, since Muhammad had declared war on Mecca prior to his eviction. The Meccans were also acting in defense of their religion, since it was Muhammad’s intention to destroy their idols and establish Islam by force (which he later did). Hence the critical part of this verse is to fight until “religion is only for Allah”, meaning that the true justification of violence was the unbelief of the opposition. According to the Sira (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 324) Muhammad further explains that “Allah must have no rivals.”
Quran (8:57) – “If thou comest on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember.”
Quran (8:67) – “It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he had made a great slaughter in the land…”
Quran (8:59-60) – “And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip (Allah’s Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape. Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed) force and of horses tethered, that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy.”
Quran (8:65) – “O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight…”
Quran (9:5) – “So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them
in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them.” According to this verse, the best way of staying safe from Muslim violence is to convert to Islam (prayer (salat) and the poor tax (zakat) are among the religion’s Five Pillars). This popular claim that the Quran only inspires violence within the context of self-defense is seriously challenged by this passage as well, since the Muslims to whom it was written were obviously not under attack. Had they been, then there would have been no waiting period (earlier verses make it a duty for Muslims to fight in self-defense, even during the sacred months). The historical context is Mecca after the idolaters were subjugated by Muhammad and posed no threat. Once the Muslims had power, they violently evicted those unbelievers who would not convert.
Quran (9:14) – “Fight against them so that Allah will punish them by your hands and disgrace them and give you victory over them and heal the breasts of a believing people.” Humiliating and hurting non-believers not only has the blessing of Allah, but it is ordered as a means of carrying out his punishment and even “healing” the hearts of Muslims.
Quran (9:20) – “Those who believe, and have left their homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in Allah’s way are of much greater worth in Allah’s sight. These are they who are triumphant.” The Arabic word interpreted as “striving” in this verse is the same root as “Jihad”. The context is obviously holy war.
Quran (9:29) – “Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.” “People of the Book” refers to Christians and Jews. According to this verse, they are to be violently subjugated, with the sole justification being their religious status. Verse 9:33 tells Muslims that Allah has charted them to make Islam “superior over all religions.” This chapter was one of the final “revelations” from Allah and it set in motion the tenacious military expansion, in which Muhammad’s companions managed to conquer two-thirds of the Christian world in the next 100 years. Islam is intended to dominate all other people and faiths.
Quran (9:30) – “And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!”
Quran (9:38-39) – “O ye who believe! what is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter. Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place.” This is a warning to those who refuse to fight, that they will be punished with Hell.
Quran (9:41) – “Go forth, light-armed and heavy-armed, and strive with your wealth and your lives in the way of Allah! That is best for you if ye but knew.” See also the verse that follows (9:42) – “If there had been immediate gain (in sight), and the journey easy, they would (all) without doubt have followed thee, but the distance was long, (and weighed) on them” This contradicts the myth that Muslims are to fight only in self-defense, since the wording implies that battle will be waged a long distance from home (in another country and on Christian soil, in this case, according to the historians).
Quran (9:73) – “O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination.” Dehumanizing those who reject Islam, by reminding Muslims that unbelievers are merely firewood for Hell, makes it easier to justify slaughter. It also explains why today’s devout Muslims have little regard for those outside the faith.
Quran (9:88) – “But the Messenger, and those who believe with him, strive and fight with their wealth and their persons: for them are (all) good things: and it is they who will prosper.”
Quran (9:111) – “Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Quran: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme.” How does the Quran define a true believer?
Quran (9:123) – “O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness.”
Quran (17:16) – “And when We wish to destroy a town, We send Our commandment to the people of it who lead easy lives, but they transgress therein; thus the word proves true against it, so We destroy it with utter destruction.” Note that the crime is moral transgression, and the punishment is “utter destruction.” (Before ordering the 9/11 attacks, Osama bin Laden first issued Americans an invitation to Islam).
Quran (18:65-81) – This parable lays the theological groundwork for honor killings, in which a family member is murdered because they brought shame to the family, either through apostasy or perceived moral indiscretion. The story (which is not found in any Jewish or Christian source) tells of Moses encountering a man with “special knowledge” who does things which don’t seem to make sense on the surface, but are then justified according to later explanation. One such action is to murder a youth for no apparent reason (74). However, the wise man later explains that it was feared that the boy would “grieve” his parents by “disobedience and ingratitude.” He was killed so that Allah could provide them a ‘better’ son. (Note: This is one reason why honor killing is sanctioned by Sharia. Reliance of the Traveler (Umdat al-Saliq) says that punishment for murder is not applicable when a parent or grandparent kills their offspring (o.1.1-2).)
Quran (21:44) – “We gave the good things of this life to these men and their fathers until the period grew long for them; See they not that We gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders? Is it then they who will win?”
Quran (25:52) – “Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers, but strive against them with the utmost strenuousness…” “Strive against” is Jihad – obviously not in the personal context. It’s also significant to point out that this is a Meccan verse.
Quran (33:60-62) – “If the hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and the alarmists in the city do not cease, We verily shall urge thee on against them, then they will be your neighbors in it but a little while. Accursed, they will be seized wherever found and slain with a (fierce) slaughter.” This passage sanctions the slaughter (rendered “merciless” and “horrible murder” in other translations) against three groups: Hypocrites (Muslims who refuse to “fight in the way of Allah” (3:167) and hence don’t act as Muslims should), those with “diseased hearts” (which include Jews and Christians 5:51-52), and “alarmists” or “agitators who include those who merely speak out against Islam, according to Muhammad’s biographers. It is worth noting that the victims are to be sought out by Muslims, which is what today’s terrorists do. If this passage is meant merely to apply to the city of Medina, then it is unclear why it is included in Allah’s eternal word to Muslim generations.
Quran (47:3-4) – “Those who disbelieve follow falsehood, while those who believe follow the truth from their Lord… So, when you meet (in fight Jihad in Allah’s Cause), those who disbelieve smite at their necks till when you have killed and wounded many of them, then bind a bond firmly (on them, i.e. take them as captives)… If it had been Allah’s Will, He Himself could certainly have punished them (without you). But (He lets you fight), in order to test you, some with others. But those who are killed in the Way of Allah, He will never let their deeds be lost.” Those who reject Allah are to be killed in Jihad. The wounded are to be held captive for ransom. The only reason Allah doesn’t do the dirty work himself is to to test the faithfulness of Muslims. Those who kill pass the test.
Quran (47:35) – “Be not weary and faint-hearted, crying for peace, when ye should be uppermost (Shakir: “have the upper hand”) for Allah is with you,”
Quran (48:17) – “There is no blame for the blind, nor is there blame for the lame, nor is there blame for the sick (that they go not forth to war). And whoso obeyeth Allah and His messenger, He will make him enter Gardens underneath which rivers flow; and whoso turneth back, him will He punish with a painful doom.” Contemporary apologists sometimes claim that Jihad means ‘spiritual struggle.’ Is so, then why are the blind, lame and sick exempted? This verse also says that those who do not fight will suffer torment in hell.
Quran (48:29) – “Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves” Islam is not about treating everyone equally. This verse tells Muslims that there are two very distinct standards that are applied based on religious status. Also the word used for ‘hard’ or ‘ruthless’ in this verse shares the same root as the word translated as ‘painful’ or severe’ to describe Hell in over 25 other verses including 65:10, 40:46 and 50:26..
Quran (61:4) – “Surely Allah loves those who fight in His way” Religion of Peace, indeed! The verse explicitly refers to “battle array” meaning that it is speaking of physical conflict. This is followed by (61:9): “He it is who has sent His Messenger (Mohammed)
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even though the infidels may resist.” (See next verse, below). Infidels who resist Islamic rule are to be fought.
Quran (61:10-12) – “O You who believe! Shall I guide you to a commerce that will save you from a painful torment. That you believe in Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad ), and that you strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with your wealth and your lives, that will be better for you, if you but know! (If you do so) He will forgive you your sins, and admit you into Gardens under which rivers flow, and pleasant dwelling in Gardens of ‘Adn – Eternity [‘Adn (Edn) Paradise], that is indeed the great success.” This verse refers to physical battle in order to make Islam victorious over other religions (see above). It uses the Arabic word, Jihad.
Quran (66:9) – “O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey’s end.” The root word of “Jihad” is used again here. The context is clearly holy war, and the scope of violence is broadened to include “hypocrites” – those who call themselves Muslims but do not act as such.
Other verses calling Muslims to Jihad can be found here at AnsweringIslam.org
From the Hadith:
Bukhari (52:177) – Allah’s Apostle said, “The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. “O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.”
Bukhari (52:256) – The Prophet… was asked whether it was permissible to attack the pagan warriors at night with the probability of exposing their women and children to danger. The Prophet replied, “They (i.e. women and children) are from them (i.e. pagans).” In this command, Muhammad establishes that it is permissible to kill non-combatants in the process of killing a perceived enemy. This provides justification for the many Islamic terror bombings.
Bukhari (52:65) – The Prophet said, ‘He who fights that Allah’s Word, Islam, should be superior, fights in Allah’s Cause. Muhammad’s words are the basis for offensive Jihad – spreading Islam by force. This is how it was understood by his companions, and by the terrorists of today.
Bukhari (52:220) – Allah’s Apostle said… ‘I have been made victorious with terror’
Abu Dawud (14:2526) – The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Three things are the roots of faith: to refrain from (killing) a person who utters, “There is no god but Allah” and not to declare him unbeliever whatever sin he commits, and not to excommunicate him from Islam for his any action; and jihad will be performed continuously since the day Allah sent me as a prophet until the day the last member of my community will fight with the Dajjal (Antichrist)
Abu Dawud (14:2527) – The Prophet said: Striving in the path of Allah (jihad) is incumbent on you along with every ruler, whether he is pious or impious
Muslim (1:33) – the Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah
Bukhari (8:387) – Allah’s Apostle said, “I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah’. And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally.”
Muslim (1:30) – “The Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people so long as they do not declare that there is no god but Allah.”
Bukhari (52:73) – “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘Know that Paradise is under the shades of swords’.”
Bukhari (11:626) – [Muhammad said:] “I decided to order a man to lead the prayer and then take a flame to burn all those, who had not left their houses for the prayer, burning them alive inside their homes.”
Muslim (1:149) – “Abu Dharr reported: I said: Messenger of Allah, which of the deeds is the best? He (the Holy Prophet) replied: Belief in Allah and Jihad in His cause…”
Muslim (20:4645) – “…He (the Messenger of Allah) did that and said: There is another act which elevates the position of a man in Paradise to a grade one hundred (higher), and the elevation between one grade and the other is equal to the height of the heaven from the earth. He (Abu Sa’id) said: What is that act? He replied: Jihad in the way of Allah! Jihad in the way of Allah!”
Muslim (20:4696) – “the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: ‘One who died but did not fight in the way of Allah nor did he express any desire (or determination) for Jihad died the death of a hypocrite.'”
Muslim (19:4321-4323) – Three separate hadith in which Muhammad shrugs over the news that innocent children were killed in a raid by his men against unbelievers. His response: “They are of them (meaning the enemy).”
Muslim (19:4294) – “When the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) appointed anyone as leader of an army or detachment he would especially exhort him… He would say: Fight in the name of Allah and in the way of Allah. Fight against those who disbelieve in Allah. Make a holy war… When you meet your enemies who are polytheists, invite them to three courses of action. If they respond to any one of these, you also accept it and withhold yourself from doing them any harm. Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them… If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah’s help and fight them.”
Bukhari 1:35 “The person who participates in (Holy Battles) in Allah’s cause and nothing compels him do so except belief in Allah and His Apostle, will be recompensed by Allah either with a reward, or booty ( if he survives) or will be admitted to Paradise ( if he is killed).”
Tabari 7:97 The morning after the murder of Ashraf, the Prophet declared, “Kill any Jew who falls under your power.” Ashraf was a poet, killed by Muhammad’s men because he insulted Islam. Here, Muhammad widens the scope of his orders to kill. An innocent Jewish businessman was then slain by his Muslim partner, merely for being non-Muslim.
Tabari 9:69 “Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us” The words of Muhammad, prophet of Islam.
Tabari 17:187 “‘By God, our religion (din) from which we have departed is better and more correct than that which these people follow. Their religion does not stop them from shedding blood, terrifying the roads, and seizing properties.’ And they returned to their former religion.” The words of a group of Christians who had converted to Islam, but realized their error after being shocked by the violence and looting committed in the name of Allah. The price of their decision to return to a religion of peace was that the men were beheaded and the woman and children enslaved by the caliph Ali.
Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 484: – “Allah said, ‘A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.’”
Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 990: – Lest anyone think that cutting off someone’s head while screaming ‘Allah Akbar!’ is a modern creation, here is an account of that very practice under Muhammad, who seems to approve.
Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 992: – “Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah.” Muhammad’s instructions to his men prior to a military raid.
Saifur Rahman, The Sealed Nectar p.227-228 – “Embrace Islam… If you two accept Islam, you will remain in command of your country; but if your refuse my Call, you’ve got to remember that all of your possessions are perishable. My horsemen will appropriate your land, and my Prophethood will assume preponderance over your kingship.” One of several letters from Muhammad to rulers of other countries. The significance is that the recipients were not making war or threatening Muslims. Their subsequent defeat and subjugation by Muhammad’s armies was justified merely on the basis of their unbelief.
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Additional Notes:
Other than the fact that Muslims haven’t killed every non-Muslim under their domain, there is very little else that they can point to as proof that theirs is a peaceful, tolerant religion. Where Islam is dominant (as in the Middle East and Pakistan) religious minorities suffer brutal persecution with little resistance. Where Islam is in the minority (as in Thailand, the Philippines and Europe) there is the threat of violence if Muslim demands are not met. Either situation seems to provide a justification for religious terrorism, which is persistent and endemic to Islamic fundamentalism.
The reasons are obvious and begin with the Quran. Few verses of Islam’s most sacred text can be construed to fit the contemporary virtues of religious tolerance and universal brotherhood. Those that do are earlier “Meccan” verses which are obviously abrogated by later ones. The example of Muhammad is that Islam is a religion of peace when Muslims do not have the power and numbers on their side. Once they do, things change.
Many Muslims are peaceful and do not want to believe what the Quran really says. They prefer a more narrow interpretation that is closer to the Judeo-Christian ethic. Some just ignore harsher passages. Others reach for “textual context” across different suras to subjectively mitigate these verses with others so that the message fits their personal moral preferences. Although the Quran itself claims to be clear and complete, these apologists speak of the “risks” of trying to interpret verses without their “assistance.”
The violent verses of the Quran have played a key role in very real massacre and genocide. This includes the brutal slaughter of tens of millions of Hindus for five centuries beginning around 1000 AD with Mahmud of Ghazni’s bloody conquest. Both he and the later Tamerlane (Islam’s Genghis Khan) slaughtered an untold number merely for defending their temples from destruction. Buddhism was very nearly wiped off the Indian subcontinent. Judaism and Christianity met the same fate (albeit more slowly) in areas conquered by Muslim armies, including the Middle East, North Africa and parts of Europe, including today’s Turkey. Zoroastrianism, the ancient religion of a proud Persian people is despised by Muslims and barely survives in modern Iran.
Violence is so ingrained in Islam that it has never really stopped being at war, either with other religions or with itself.
Muhammad was a military leader, laying siege to towns, massacring the men, raping their women, enslaving their children, and taking the property of others as his own. On several occasions he rejected offers of surrender from the besieged inhabitants and even butchered captives. He inspired his followers to battle when they did not feel it was right to fight, promising them slaves and booty if they did and threatening them with Hell if they did not. Muhammad allowed his men to rape traumatized women captured in battle, usually on the very day their husbands and family members were slaughtered.
It is important to emphasize that, for the most part, Muslim armies waged aggressive campaigns, and the religion’s most dramatic military conquests were made by the actual companions of Muhammad in the decades following his death.
The early Islamic principle of warfare was that the civilian population of a town was to be destroyed (ie. men executed, women and children taken as slaves) if they defended themselves and resisted Islamic hegemony. Although modern apologists often claim that Muslims are only supposed to “attack in self-defense”, this oxymoron is flatly contradicted by the accounts of Islamic historians and others that go back to the time of Muhammad.
Some modern-day scholars are more candid than others. One of the most respected Sunni theologians is al-Qaradawi, who justifies terror attacks against Western targets by noting that there is no such thing as a civilian population in a time of war:
“It has been determined by Islamic law that the blood and property of people of Dar Al—Harb [ie. non-Muslim people who resist Islamic conquest] is not protected… In modern war, all of society, with all its classes and ethnic groups, is mobilized to participate in the war, to aid its continuation, and to provide it with the material and human fuel required for it to assure the victory of the state fighting its enemies. Every citizen in society must take upon himself a role in the effort to provide for the battle. The entire domestic front, including professionals, laborers, and industrialists, stands behind the fighting army, even if it does not bear arms.”
Consider the example of the Qurayza Jews, who were completely obliterated only five years after Muhammad arrived in Medina. Their leader opted to stay neutral when their town was besieged by a Meccan army that was sent to take revenge for Muhammad’s deadly caravan raids. The tribe killed no one from either side and even surrendered peacefully to Muhammad after the Meccans had been turned back. Yet the prophet of Islam had every male member of the Qurayza beheaded, and every woman and child enslaved, even raping one of the captives himself (what Muslim apologists might refer to as “same day marriage”).
One of Islam’s most revered modern scholars, Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi, openly sanctions offensive Jihad: “In the Jihad which you are seeking, you look for the enemy and invade him. This type of Jihad takes place only when the Islamic state is invading other [countries] in order to spread the word of Islam and to remove obstacles standing in its way.” Elsewhere, he notes: “Islam has the right to take the initiative…this is God’s religion and it is for the whole world. It has the right to destroy all obstacles in the form of institutions and traditions … it attacks institutions and traditions to release human beings from their poisonous influences, which distort human nature and curtail human freedom. Those who say that Islamic Jihad was merely for the defense of the ‘homeland of Islam’ diminish the greatness of the Islamic way of life.”
The widely respected Dictionary of Islam defines Jihad as “A religious war with those who are unbelievers in the mission of Muhammad. It is an incumbent religious duty, established in the Qur’an and in the Traditions as a divine institution, and enjoined specially for the purpose of advancing Islam and of repelling evil from Muslims…[Quoting from the Hanafi school, Hedaya, 2:140, 141.], “The destruction of the sword is incurred by infidels, although they be not the first aggressors, as appears from various passages in the traditions which are generally received to this effect.”
Dr. Salah al-Sawy, the chief member of the Assembly of Muslim Jurists in America, stated in 2009 that “the Islamic community does not possess the strength to engage in offensive jihad at this time,” tacitly affirming the legitimacy of violence for the cause of Islamic rule – bound only by the capacity for success. (source)
Muhammad’s failure to leave a clear line of succession resulted in perpetual internal war following his death. Those who knew him best first fought afterwards to keep remote tribes from leaving Islam and reverting to their preferred religion (the Ridda or ‘Apostasy wars’). Then the violence turned within. Early Meccan converts battled later ones as hostility developed between those immigrants who had traveled with Muhammad to Mecca and the Ansar at Medina who had helped them settle in. Finally there was a violent struggle within Muhammad’s own family between his favorite wife and favorite daughter – a jagged schism that has left Shias and Sunnis at each others’ throats to this day.
The strangest and most untrue thing that can be said about Islam is that it is a Religion of Peace. If every standard by which the West is judged and condemned (slavery, imperialism, intolerance, misogyny, sexual repression, warfare…) were applied equally to Islam, the verdict would be devastating. Islam never gives up what it conquers, be it religion, culture, language or life. Neither does it make apologies or any real effort at moral progress. It is the least open to dialogue and the most self-absorbed. It is convinced of its own perfection, yet brutally shuns self-examination and represses criticism.
This is what makes the Quran’s verses of violence so dangerous. They are given the weight of divine command. While Muslim terrorists take them as literally as anything else in their holy book, and understand that Islam is incomplete without Jihad, moderates offer little to contradict them – outside of personal opinion. Indeed, what do they have? Speaking of peace and love may win over the ignorant, but when every twelfth verse of Islam’s holiest book either speaks to Allah’s hatred for non-Muslims or calls for their death, forced conversion, or subjugation, it’s little wonder that sympathy for terrorism runs as deeply as it does in the broader community – even if most Muslims personally prefer not to interpret their religion in this way.
Although scholars like Ibn Khaldun, one of Islam’s most respected philosophers, understood that “the holy war is a religious duty, because of the universalism of the Muslim mission and (the obligation to) convert everybody to Islam either by persuasion or by force”, many other Muslims are either unaware or willfully ignorant of the Quran’s near absence of verses that preach universal non-violence. Their understanding of Islam comes from what they are taught by others. In the West, it is typical for believers to think that their religion must be like Christianity – preaching the New Testament virtues of peace, love, and tolerance – because Muslims are taught that Islam is supposed to be superior in every way. They are somewhat surprised and embarrassed to find that this is contradicted by the Quran and the bloody history of Islam’s genesis.
Others simply accept the violence. In 1991, a Palestinian couple in America was convicted of stabbing their daughter to death for being too Westernized. A family friend came to their defense, excoriating the jury for not understanding the “culture”, claiming that the father was merely following “the religion” and saying that the couple had to “discipline their daughter or lose respect.” (source). In 2011, unrepentant Palestinian terrorists, responsible for the brutal murders of civilians, women and children explicitly in the name of Allah were treated to a luxurious “holy pilgrimage” to Mecca by the Saudi king – without a single Muslim voice raised in protest.
For their part, Western liberals would do well not to sacrifice critical thinking to the god of political correctness, or look for reasons to bring other religion down to the level of Islam merely to avoid the existential truth that this it is both different and dangerous.
There are just too many Muslims who take the Quran literally… and too many others who couldn’t care less about the violence done in the name of Islam.
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One More time everyone should Keep in Mind as a Cult in this Country it is against the Law and against the law to follow any Cult Demands and ways in Living as they will eventually cost you your Life or find yourself enslaved, How do we distinguish this is a Cult well this is not for you or I it was for those who are Scholars, who studied religion and their ways and Practices.
Everyone who knocks down Trump is UN-American, We do not allow any Cults in this country! Get them OUT
Justin W says
The world has a problem with Muslim terrorists. The religious leaders of Islam seem to have a problem condemning this behavior. In fact many Islamic schools and mosques are rumored to be training centers for terrorists. Most Muslims may be peace loving–they are welcome in this country. We’ve got to figure out how to detect those who are coming here to create trouble and keep them out. By the way, the woman made it through the government’s vetting process according to some news reports I’ve read.
Donald Trump is enjoying his popularity because he is able to tap into the sentiment of average Americans. Most of these politicians have a security detail hired to protect them. The average American doesn’t.
The reality is that everywhere that is ruled by Islam is a place of hate, misery, violence, poverty, ignorance and repression. Many people are forced to convert to Islam at knife point. Islam’s idea of utopia is a world without Jews, Christians, Israel or America. We may not be able to change their mindset of hate but we don’t have to welcome these uncivilized people into our country. They should stay in the Middle East and experience Islam for all the evil it is.
Hank Leonhard says
PUBLIC LAW 414-JUNE 27, 1952
Under the previously mentioned Public Law is the following which gives the President the right to bar any aliens as he so chooses.
(e) Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of
any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the
interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such
period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or
any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the
entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.
joe says
Mr. Cheney you are wrong
Ron says
I am a staunce believer in the Constitution of the United States of America. I belive strongly in freedom of religion. That being said however, when there is a religion that advocates the killing of anyone who refuses to convert to it there has to be a line drawn. What about the freedom of the other religions? The whole idea behind the Forefathers wanting to protect religion was to avoid having one religion that you had to worship, like what they had in England. Had they conceived of a religion that would advocate the killing of those who would not convert it they would have provided protection against such a religion.
JB says
So is Obama and he got elected. The only difference is TRUMP speaks the truth!
Barney Blankenbeckler says
TRUMP’S IDEA IS AMERICAN FOR ME. HE BELIEVES IN TAKING CARE OF OUR COUNTRY BY TAKING CARE OF HIS OWN.
Todd says
WHAT IS DICK HEAD CHENEY DOING TALKING PUBLICLY ANY HOW! SINCE WHEN DOE’S ANYONE WANT TO HEAR ANYTHING THAT CRIMINAL HAS TO SAY. WASN’T HE SUPPOSED TO DIE, LIKE 10 TIMES ALREADY? HOW DO WE KILL THIS CREEP OFF ALREADY? WHY DO EVIL PEOPLE SEEM TO GO ON FOR EVER.
DixieBelle says
The truth is Trump’s ideas ARE American. That’s what worries them. They don’t want him on the inside because he will learn more about them than he already knows. Vote for Trump in 2016 so that we can clean up our country and make it great again.
josebear5 says
Yea Chaney has a big right to come down on trump since he made million for Hallbeton in the Iraq war . to him anything that makes money
Jay Bell says
The more I thought about Cheney’s comments, the more it loomed as a sick joke. That the torturer, Darth Cheney, would dare to lecture Donald Trump on being “un-American” and to tell Trump that he should abide by the Constitution, boggles the mind. All Trump wants to do is keep them out (which is legal since radical Islam advocates the violent overthrow of our government)–Cheney wants to imprison them forever in Guantanamo and torture them. Now which of them do you think is more American and reflects more of the values of this nation? Cheney has got to be one of the more evil men alive. He is alive isn’t he? Has anyone checked? Last I heard he didn’t even have a heart–just some kind of hum from his mechanical heart when one would listen to his chest. Oh, yeah, I forgot–he managed to get to the head of the list for a heart transplant. That would be the first one for Cheney–unconvinced that he ever had one before.
Granite says
Support Trump with all of your will and resources. Do not let this opportunity to save America fail. Feeling as strongly as you all do, make Trump’s campaign grow and prevail.
Big Don says
As dangerous as the world is today, I think ALL immigration to this country should be suspended until further notice. That’s just common sense.
Little Bright Feather says
Cheney has no idea of what’s American, being himself a part of 9-11 !
The Founders stand with Trump because his stand is what their stand was !
Only Trump and the Founders know, and knew, how to protect this land !
The Founders FORBADE MUSLIMS FROM TOUCHING THIS AMERICAN SOIL !
THEY knew HOW to protect America !
The last many presidents have no idea – or care to !
Anyone who is pro-Muslim needs to leave this land and go to a Muslim land !
And don’t forget to take the big O with you !
Americans today who are for all this Communism hate the Founders ! And they are teaching your kids to hate them too ! Like that college who has all the mind controlled kids that want to do away with Thomas Jefferson’s monument ! They have no idea what it is to BE a TRUE American.
Just watch Trump for a lesson ! He is the first TRUE American to show up in over a century !!
And it’s put DC’s boxer shorts into a twist ! They cannot handle a TRUE American !
All these OWG Communists here now, (Elites) would crucify the Founders if they were here today !
Trump has put out more Founders Law then anyone knows because the masses today are totally dumb on the Founders Law or America’s TRUE history !
And boy have the RINO’s exposed themselves on this one !
ALL of those Republicans who are attacking Trump are RINO’s == they all part of the OWG agenda and now we know for sure who they are !
God Bless Trump !!
He really does speak for the TRUE Americans !
America was established FOR CHRISTIANS, NOT MUSLIMS !
WE want OUR America back and OUR culture !
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Jay Bell says
We need to support the brave men and women in the House of Representatives who voted to stop Syrian refugees from coming into the country. Tell them that you think they did the right thing. Also, write to your Senators and tell them that you want them to get busy on a Senate version of the same resolution, NOW! When B.O. threatens a veto, the Senate cowers. Most of the Republican Senators are RINOs but not all of them. Tell Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, and Marco Rubio (all supposed true conservative Republicans) that you want them to get going on this bill–and fast. All three of them have spoken against the wholesale importation of Muslims–a percentage of which, we know, will likely be extremists. They have also spoken against the essentially open border with Mexico that is threatening to destabilize the Southwest. It is up to us to save this nation from the big-money, corporate, globalist forces who want to tear it apart.
Terry salter says
Cheney thinks its a religion but if they had the opportunity they would stone his daughter or throw her off a building.
hector says
In additon to the very good points made by Samuel Ulsaker,
There is the story of the young man who was climbing a mountain and found a rattle snake freezing to death in the winter’s cold
The young man felt compassion for the moribund snake. The snake begged him to save it.
He then felt moved and set the snake down from the mountain to a warm, comfortable place.
At this point, the snake bites him.
In utter surprise he exclaimed: “why did you bite me ? I am saving you from freezing…”
The snake responds: ” yes, but you forgot that I am a snake…”
Sadly today Mr. Trump is called names for his views on ” this is not who we are”….
Aren’t we glad Mr. Trump is not stupid.?
We all know who he wants to help.
On the other side, we are un-Americans if not bending backwards when told.