The small town of Collins, Mississippi has an annual tradition they’ve been celebrating for every holiday season for fifteen years – Christmas in the Park.
Now, a group of atheist lawyers from the Freedom From Religion Foundation (FFRF) are demanding the town tear down six displays that include a set of Latin Crosses and light displays of Christ walking across the water.
According to the atheist group, the small town shouldn’t be allowed to leave up these decorations year round, because it makes Collins City Park ‘un-welcoming’ to atheists and other religions.
They’re demanding this town of just over 2,500 residents spend money and effort tearing down the small decorations, despite having stood for years without local complaints.
Should the town refuse, it could face an expensive lawsuit from the FFRF on grounds they’ve violated the establishment clause by leaving Christmas displays up year-round.
On the heels of the groups vicious lawsuit to install a 8-foot statue of Satan at the Arkansas State House, their successful dismantling of the Ten Commandments in Oklahoma, and now this attack on a small town’s traditions in Mississippi, many are wondering where the atheist group’s next target will be.
Collins City Park features light displays and Christmas music. It normally opens at the end of November, and is open Thursday through Saturday nights during the holiday season.
According to their website, the display is “A community participation event to celebrate the Christmas season. Our goal is to light up our city park for everyone to enjoy.”
The city has yet to respond to the letter.
This can “NOT” be aloud, that this group be aloud to “STOP” this or any other public religious celebration America was built on.
We the People of Faith out number the non-believers and believers of non-christen values by three or four to one.
We out number you people, So if you don’t like it close your eyes and walk in front of a on coming train and see
if your way of thinking will help you decide what to do. hopefully you’ll be dumbfounded and stand still.
And if you do, May God help you.
What does “aloud” mean? And “christen”…? I guess in your school they teach you some fairy tale religion instead of the grammar…
So God is a fairy tale, roflmao, the odds are against you on that one. Enjoy this life because you won’t enjoy the next one. Don’t believe it, so what, proves nothing and shows how utterly stupid and ignorant you are. You see I don’t need to prove a damn thing when it comes to my faith. You on the other hand must totally beyond any reasonable doubt prove it to be false andyou can’t thus I roflmao at you!
I am an atheist. If there is a creator it is not in human form and these childish stories Eric. However, everyone has the right to believe what they desire and no one should dictate to change anything. Christmas has been around forever and it is a welcome break. No one should insist to take anything down or eliminate anything and I don’t care what religion, people are free to choose. I have not been in a Christmas Mass since I was 14, but one day I may go because I like the songs.
Let’s see these Atheists try pulling their crap in front of a Mosque…go ahead, try complaining about the bells at sunset and the singing at sunrise. I am sure a swift quick kick in the ass and a fast return to their corner would be in order.
Mosques are not property of the government. They may display whatever religious messages they like, just as churches. If someone attempted to government resources to promote Islam (or any other religion), the FFRF would oppose it.
Seems the objective of an Atheist’s life is to make as many people as miserable as they are.
I will defend and encourage your faith. However, you are mistaken. The burden of proof lies upon the person making the claim. You claim that there is a god. I do not accept this claim. If I were to claim Bigfoot lived in my back yard, I would expect you to not believe me without evidence. I would not expect you to prove he doesn’t. Enjoy your faith and whatever joy it brings you. I will make no attempts to disprove it, I just don’t agree with you.
Is god willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him god?
(Epicurus)
He gave us FREE WILL . Lifes tragedies are a test of FAITH . Enjoy your misery .
We have free will.
God is both willing and able– He has already defeated Satan when Jesus died on the cross, rose again and went back to Heaven to prepare a place for those that love Him! One day He will return to judge those who rejected His love in this life, and they will go along with Satan to Hell– a place of eternal regret and separation from God. Believe me, on that day you will not be saying God is a fairy tale– why not seek God today while there is still time!!??
To Coose: There is really no use in talking with people like God is a fairy tale. They have to have a brain in order to believe in God & Jesus Christ. Non believers do not have a brain, therefore cannot tell good from bad, or right from wrong.
How sad, that God has done so very much for us & people still refuse to believe. He’s willing & able to forgive our sin, He created us & loves each of us. We don’t have to completely understand everything about Him, but we do need to trust Him. He is our salvation, he died to pay the price for each & every sin, however, we must ask Him to forgive us & believe that He has..
To: God is a fairy tale. If you were not so closed mined, you would know that Gods favorite angle, decided that he was as powerful as god, but to give him a chance to repent, God gave him free reign on earth. This is Satan, & he thinks that as long as he can get most of the people to follow him, he has then won the battle. He & people like you are in for a big surprise.
And what are you the edit police
Still all in all you weren’t so stupid you couldn’t read it lololol
To God is a fairy tale: You may believe God is a fairy tale, however anyone with a brain knows there is a God, but you instead make fun of someone’s spelling. While you are rotting in hell think about how you had a chance , but blew it.
Wow! you can even read. you are the ferry tail. Maybe just a ferry.
Sorry but what is ” instead of the grammar” or Maybe you meant “instead of grammar” !
I think you are the one who is listening to fairy tales. Some day we are all going to stand before God and be judged for all our sins. I pray God will turn you around before the judgement day!! If not may God have mercy on your soul.
You, of course, have the right to disbelieve, just as I have the right to believe, which I most certainly do. I am 80 years old, and have stood by and listened to Athiests decry Christian activities, which should make no difference, since you regard God as a fairy tale. Have you also taken steps to remove Aesop’s books, since they are also fairy tales. Incidentally, your athiesm will end when you stand before God. No matter that you don’t believe. It doesn’t change the fact that “every knee shall bow, and every tongue shall confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the Glory of God the Father.” Phillipians chapter two.
Learn proper English for starters.Xmas should be celebrated as a family holiday & NOT as a religious one.It was invented by some pope.Jesus,who was a man & not a ‘god’,was not born on Dec.25th.Archeology has PROVEN that there was NO census in December;it occurred in March or April.Religion is not based on fact.
The timeline is inconsequential. It is time for these minority groups to stop attempts to quash majority opinions and beliefs. And anyone wishing to argue the existence or lack thereof is being both ludicrous and foolish. There are many things in this universe that are unprovable. The existence of God is one of them. Time for people to get back to leaving well enough alone. Why do some think they need to mind everybody else’s business. Tend to your own garden
Well said
Nobody is trying to quash beliefs or opinions. Those are both guaranteed within your second amendment rights. What FFRF is trying to do, is see that the government and its resources remain neutral to better serve the people of all faiths or lack thereof. This is also guaranteed within the establishment clause of our second amendment rights.
Correction: First Amendment. I was typing fast and was engaged in a previous discussion, where I was firmly supporting our Second Amendment right to bear arms.
You learn proper English !! It’s spelled Christmas not xmas
AMEN AND AMEN
… and A-WOMEN!
Sue: I was just about to comment to comment on your request for “proper” English with the note that all the prior comments were talking about Christ and Christmas. Then I glanced down and saw that others had already drawn your attention to the proper spelling, etc. If you want to take Christ out of Christmas or shorten it you might try + (cross) rather than x (ex) because it will be continued to be celebrated. By the way I think most Christians celebrate it as a Family and Relationship Holiday (Family of God and Relationship to God) more than a “religious” Holiday. Do you distance yourself from anything “invented” by someone supposedly in a discipline like: say, a bicycle, a car, cell phone, literature. do you keep up with the latest research, problems with dating techniques? If there was a sight question of the exact date of your own birthday would you then doubt your own existence?
To: “God is a fairy tale”: I am of the impression that you do not want to believe in God but perhaps in fairies by your name choice. Do you believe you have a fairy God-mother? Do you believe there are any non-human beings capable of communicating with human beings?
I just noticed some slight typos after submitting: repeated “to comment”,… Do instead of do, slight instead of sight. Hope those are all.
What you are trying to say is ALLOWED not aloud. I believe this was taught in 6th or 7th grade. No, this should not be allowed. My gosh, has our education system fallen this far?
Kissing Hank’s Ass
This morning there was a knock at my door. When I answered the door I found a well groomed, nicely dressed couple. The man spoke first:
John: “Hi! I’m John, and this is Mary.”
Mary: “Hi! We’re here to invite you to come kiss Hank’s ass with us.”
Me: “Pardon me?! What are you talking about? Who’s Hank, and why would I want to kiss His ass?”
John: “If you kiss Hank’s ass, He’ll give you a million dollars; and if you don’t, He’ll kick the shit out of you.”
Me: “What? Is this some sort of bizarre mob shake-down?”
John: “Hank is a billionaire philanthropist. Hank built this town. Hank owns this town. He can do whatever He wants, and what He wants is to give you a million dollars, but He can’t until you kiss His ass.”
Me: “That doesn’t make any sense. Why…”
Mary: “Who are you to question Hank’s gift? Don’t you want a million dollars? Isn’t it worth a little kiss on the ass?”
Me: “Well maybe, if it’s legit, but…”
John: “Then come kiss Hank’s ass with us.”
Me: “Do you kiss Hank’s ass often?”
Mary: “Oh yes, all the time…”
Me: “And has He given you a million dollars?”
John: “Well no. You don’t actually get the money until you leave town.”
Me: “So why don’t you just leave town now?”
Mary: “You can’t leave until Hank tells you to, or you don’t get the money, and He kicks the shit out of you.”
Me: “Do you know anyone who kissed Hank’s ass, left town, and got the million dollars?”
John: “My mother kissed Hank’s ass for years. She left town last year, and I’m sure she got the money.”
Me: “Haven’t you talked to her since then?”
John: “Of course not, Hank doesn’t allow it.”
Me: “So what makes you think He’ll actually give you the money if you’ve never talked to anyone who got the money?”
Mary: “Well, He gives you a little bit before you leave. Maybe you’ll get a raise, maybe you’ll win a small lotto, maybe you’ll just find a twenty-dollar bill on the street.”
Me: “What’s that got to do with Hank?”
John: “Hank has certain ‘connections.'”
Me: “I’m sorry, but this sounds like some sort of bizarre con game.”
John: “But it’s a million dollars, can you really take the chance? And remember, if you don’t kiss Hank’s ass He’ll kick the shit out of you.”
Me: “Maybe if I could see Hank, talk to Him, get the details straight from Him…”
Mary: “No one sees Hank, no one talks to Hank.”
Me: “Then how do you kiss His ass?”
John: “Sometimes we just blow Him a kiss, and think of His ass. Other times we kiss Karl’s ass, and he passes it on.”
Me: “Who’s Karl?”
Mary: “A friend of ours. He’s the one who taught us all about kissing Hank’s ass. All we had to do was take him out to dinner a few times.”
Me: “And you just took his word for it when he said there was a Hank, that Hank wanted you to kiss His ass, and that Hank would reward you?”
John: “Oh no! Karl has a letter he got from Hank years ago explaining the whole thing. Here’s a copy; see for yourself.”
From the Desk of Karl
1. Kiss Hank’s ass and He’ll give you a million dollars when you leave town.
2. Use alcohol in moderation.
3. Kick the shit out of people who aren’t like you.
4. Eat right.
5. Hank dictated this list Himself.
6. The moon is made of green cheese.
7. Everything Hank says is right.
8. Wash your hands after going to the bathroom.
9. Don’t use alcohol.
10. Eat your wieners on buns, no condiments.
11. Kiss Hank’s ass or He’ll kick the shit out of you.
Me: “This appears to be written on Karl’s letterhead.”
Mary: “Hank didn’t have any paper.”
Me: “I have a hunch that if we checked we’d find this is Karl’s handwriting.”
John: “Of course, Hank dictated it.”
Me: “I thought you said no one gets to see Hank?”
Mary: “Not now, but years ago He would talk to some people.”
Me: “I thought you said He was a philanthropist. What sort of philanthropist kicks the shit out of people just because they’re different?”
Mary: “It’s what Hank wants, and Hank’s always right.”
Me: “How do you figure that?”
Mary: “Item 7 says ‘Everything Hank says is right.’ That’s good enough for me!”
Me: “Maybe your friend Karl just made the whole thing up.”
John: “No way! Item 5 says ‘Hank dictated this list himself.’ Besides, item 2 says ‘Use alcohol in moderation,’ Item 4 says ‘Eat right,’ and item 8 says ‘Wash your hands after going to the bathroom.’ Everyone knows those things are right, so the rest must be true, too.”
Me: “But 9 says ‘Don’t use alcohol.’ which doesn’t quite go with item 2, and 6 says ‘The moon is made of green cheese,’ which is just plain wrong.”
John: “There’s no contradiction between 9 and 2, 9 just clarifies 2. As far as 6 goes, you’ve never been to the moon, so you can’t say for sure.”
Me: “Scientists have pretty firmly established that the moon is made of rock…”
Mary: “But they don’t know if the rock came from the Earth, or from out of space, so it could just as easily be green cheese.”
Me: “I’m not really an expert, but I think the theory that the Moon was somehow ‘captured’ by the Earth has been discounted*. Besides, not knowing where the rock came from doesn’t make it cheese.”
John: “Ha! You just admitted that scientists make mistakes, but we know Hank is always right!”
Me: “We do?”
Mary: “Of course we do, Item 7 says so.”
Me: “You’re saying Hank’s always right because the list says so, the list is right because Hank dictated it, and we know that Hank dictated it because the list says so. That’s circular logic, no different than saying ‘Hank’s right because He says He’s right.'”
John: “Now you’re getting it! It’s so rewarding to see someone come around to Hank’s way of thinking.”
Me: “But…oh, never mind. What’s the deal with wieners?”
Mary: She blushes.
John: “Wieners, in buns, no condiments. It’s Hank’s way. Anything else is wrong.”
Me: “What if I don’t have a bun?”
John: “No bun, no wiener. A wiener without a bun is wrong.”
Me: “No relish? No Mustard?”
Mary: She looks positively stricken.
John: He’s shouting. “There’s no need for such language! Condiments of any kind are wrong!”
Me: “So a big pile of sauerkraut with some wieners chopped up in it would be out of the question?”
Mary: Sticks her fingers in her ears.”I am not listening to this. La la la, la la, la la la.”
John: “That’s disgusting. Only some sort of evil deviant would eat that…”
Me: “It’s good! I eat it all the time.”
Mary: She faints.
John: He catches Mary. “Well, if I’d known you were one of those I wouldn’t have wasted my time. When Hank kicks the shit out of you I’ll be there, counting my money and laughing. I’ll kiss Hank’s ass for you, you bunless cut-wienered kraut-eater.”
With this, John dragged Mary to their waiting car, and sped off.
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All that wind coming out of your brain , bored me .. For that you get to lick Hanks ass !!!
Well fairy, if you have to believe in something and you choose hank’s ass, then you are welcome to it. I’ll stick to believing in someone greater than myself.
I couldn’t have said it better.
Let’s put a stop to this nonsense with a national
Santa Clause boycott. All hell will break loose
by the perpetrators.
the way I look at it is …just send them to hell a little quicker if they try to stop Christmas or anything thing else that you believe in… they can only stop what you let them bully you in to stopping…there going to hell anyway what do they care
aloud or allowed……..LOL !
Dear atheist: The last I heard, this country runs by majority rule!! Christians ARE the majority!! Proof of God is simple– Just look at the 60 plus complex proteins that make up DNA and RNA and most people realize that there is no way that all of these could come together in the right quantities and sequences to create these strands and form complex life!!
This country’s political and moral codes are based on Christian and Jewish values from both the Old and New Testaments that colonists brought to this country!! If you don’t like prayer in school or at events, wear ear plugs or plug your ears with your fingers!!! If you don’t like icons of religion, look the other way!!! I could care less about your self centered wining and moaning!!! Maybe you should move to a non-Christian country– i.e. Iran!!! I feel sure that their cult police will adjust and tuneup your pin-headed brain for you!!!!!
Throw the bums out of town……….let them start their own town. Minus Christians
and others they don’t like. 2000 years of history are behind the town and its
celebrations.
Community participation – all 2500 should stand behind their elected officials and
continue the celebration. Take a stand and halt the takeover of America and its foundations
Be a first to tell the infidels where to go……….OUT!
LH
I AGREE!! I WILL CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS!! THE BRITHDAY OF JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD AND SAVIOR!!!! MERRY CHRISTMAS
I WILL CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS!! THE BIRTH OF JESUS!!
amen
TELL THEM TO LOVE THIS COUNTRY OR LEAVE IT~!!!! THEY ARE FREE TO LEAVE ANYTIME THEY WANT TO.
I’ve had it with these scumbags. The town should stand pat and tell this scumbags if they don’t like it move. In fiction get out of the country. I’m not taking any more of their crap along with the American Civil Liberty Union!
I agree with you completely about the “enough is enough” but sounds like the atheists are lawyers, and most are afraid of losing their homes, etc. Like the Christian who wouldn’t bake the cake for the homosexual men wanting a wedding cake. And many other types of thing like this. Maybe if they would all stand together, but ………..
It’s too bad that the Christians don’t have any good Constitutional lawyers.
Chances are that the protesters are not from Collins, MS. Some people just keep looking for a “stump” to climb on in order to gain attention. Simply ignore the demands. If they don’t want to experience the Xmas spirit, let them go elsewhere.
I say ban all atheists from the park , that way there is no complaints . There are a lot more Christians than atheists . As a Christian , I am offended that the atheists are complaining , just don’t look or stay away . .Problem solved .
I AGREE!! GOD BLESS AMERICA AND MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL!!!!!!!!!!!
Amen
As you say, don’t like it don’t look at it but leave those of us alone to celebrate our most wonderful holiday, anyone notice it’s only Christians they target? Why don’t they go after Muslims, they demand pork products be removed from schools and other places because it offends them, the don’t like our religious holidays but yet we are forced to comform to theirs, I guess that small dick Mikie Weinstein is too much a coward to attack them and the FFRF, they don’t live close to a mosk where the call to prayers sounds out through out the day doesn’t bother them… We need to stand up for our rights not this petty little group
I think that these lawyers should have their law licenses removed from them. As attorneys they are responsible for knowing the law and the US Constitution. The First Amendment protects all who practice free speech and displays of their religion regardless of what any other person feels is derogatory to their beliefs. Thank God for the inspirations and writings of the Founding Fathers, the Framers of our Constitution. Wake up you “brain dead lawyers” you are wasting these folks time and money with your abuses. Go find a tree and climb it. Stay there until you ask for permission to get down (PS Pack a big lunch, you’ll need it).
I agree THE SOOOOOO CALLED attorneys should loss their license to practice anywhere!! the is the USA!! the land of the BRAVE!!!
1) The US was not founded on “Christian values.” READ THE HISTORY——ever hear of the separation of church and state?
2) What can not be “aloud”. English, please or is some thing too loud for you?
You have no idea what the separation of church and means
Which history? Your revisionist history, or actual history? Where in the Constitution is the separation of church and state? Please tell me because I would like to know. And before you accuse me of being a Christian, know that I am not, but I am sick and tired of progressive idiots like you trying to force your communist ideals on the rest of us. If you don’t like our country, then leave.
The church is a hospital for sinners, not a shrine for the believers. Jesus talked to sinners every day. He welcomed them to follow him. I don’t think he would approve of you asking them to leave the country.
The Constitution does NOT call for “separation of church and state”. You can read it for yourself, and if you read it with an unbiased mind you will be able to comprehend that the Constitution says that the state shall not dictate what kind of religion (church) there shall be. In other words, people are free to practice whatever kind of religion they want and that right shall not be infringed upon by the state. The American people have been hoodwinked, brain-washed, whatever you want to call it and the repressive government under the current administration goes along with it. In fact, they seem to encourage the evil. So very sad.–
We need to stand up to bullies who want their way or else. They are not in charge and have no right to try to change what is the policy in our communities. They have the right to go to any other country they can get into and do what they want.. They do not have the right to stop what has existed for hundreds of years. Others have rights also. No one is requiring them to live there. Move to another place, create the town you want, don’t try to change a good town and its people. We need to fight back in any way we need to.
I AGREE 100%
It is time to fight back by first: ignoring these radicals. We all got along just fine before and should be good now. Second: stand behind your locals and do all you can to show the radicals that you won’t back down. If you do, it will lead to the whole country losing to the few radicals. This, we cannot let happen. Third: the town government needs to make sure that their rules allow what they are doing or make rules now that allow their celebration. God will stand by those who stand by and believe in Jesus. God Bless America and Christmas exists because of Christ, not for any other reason.
What would happen if an entire town counsel, including the mayor just refused to even acknowledge the suit, stating it was beneath their dignity to do so? Just a non violent protest and a refusal to back down. I know these groups deliberately pick on small towns because they can’t afford to fight the lawsuits and so they give in. If these places started just refusing to fight other than sending someone into the court to tell the judge that the town was refusing to go along or to pay any fines levied, what could the judge do? Jail the entire town counsel including the mayor?
Look up the movie “Last Ounce Of Courage” to see what can happen when a mayor decides to oppose a God hater. Christmas is about God’s love of all mankind, not about hating those who hate Him. If you are truly Christian, you love those who hate and despise you.
If you are an atheist, why would you even care what others choose to believe? You would simply laugh at others stupidity. But real God haters subconsciously realize that God is a real power and childishly rebel against anything that threatens their chosen lifestyle.
We must pray for the God haters that they would not continue to reject God’s love but would come to know Love through Christ Jesus.
If they don,t like America/UNITED STATES of AMERICA, and the foundation OUR GREAT COUNTRY was founded on, UNDER GOD! Then find them a CHEAP little island where it freezes over EVERY year, and put them on a slow boat, and send them there. They can live there, and start there very own little country with there very own little government, and do what ever they wish to do, no matter how immoral, it may be. And they don,t need to bother to ask us for any assistance. IF THEY DON,T LIKE OUR GOD and COUNTRY! THEY NEED TO GET OUT. and . and . and . and ………
What will the atheist’s do when Sharia comes to town? What will they do when there are no God-fearing Christians to protect them and their beliefs? Hiding behind bs that passes as law so the Christian Americans can be silenced will be their death knell.
Sharia Law will not allow atheism…so if they get rid of Christianity in America, it will provide a void. Get rid of Christianity and fill the void with…..Atheism…or Sharia? Who ya gonna vote for?
Someone need to tell these people that the constitution guarantees freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion.
The taking down of the ten commandments in Oklahoma was a sneaky terrible event that will haunt Oklahoma in future years ! Here is what I cannot not understand, these 10 Commandments offer a moral and principled way for us to live and I believe if everyone really reads them, they would agree regardless of whether they would follow them or not. They do not impart Religion per se as much as a way to live ! These commandments should be given to every school child in every school and just maybe we would have a better society developing in the future because this one sure isn`t working !!! We all know what Satan is about …it has always been good vrs evil ..if Atheists want evil, it has always led to disorder, chaos, death and terrible consequences. Young people are not shown the goodness in these commandments and many of them are slipping into an “anything goes mode” for their “Me” generation ! It has to change or good luck thinking your life will be comfortable and meaningful in the future !!!
The taking down of the ten commandments in Oklahoma was a sneaky terrible event that will haunt Oklahoma in future years ! Here is what I cannot not understand, these 10 Commandments offer a moral and principled way for us to live and I believe if everyone really reads them, they would agree regardless of whether they would follow them or not. They do not impart Religion per se as much as a way to live ! These commandments should be given to every school child in every school and just maybe we would have a better society developing in the future because this one sure isn`t working !!! We all know what Satan is about …it has always been good vrs evil ..if Atheists want evil, it has always led to disorder, chaos, death and terrible consequences. Young people are not shown the goodness in these commandments and many of them are slipping into an “anything goes mode” for their “Me” generation ! It has to change or good luck thinking your life will be comfortable and meaningful in the future !!!
Tell the atheist lawyers to go shut down mosques and leave CHRISTMAS alone. Christmas is not nothing without CHRIST.
You all are talking about these folks pushing their beliefs off on everyone. What the heck are you all doing and this town besides trying to push your beliefs off on them. You can’t have it both ways. You cannot spout your Christian belief without allowing others to do the same. It is and has always been a double edged sword.This country was not founded on Christian ideals or beliefs, that is why the forefathers were smart enough to make the separation between church and state so people could not shove down the throats of others their beliefs. You all are so entitled to what ever you choose to think, just keep it within your own circle. There are so many different religions and beliefs out there that it is best for folks not to try to shove anything in any one else’s face because then you will end up with people like ISIS trying to control you with their religious beliefs.
By any chance, are YOU a member of isis ??? You sure don’t sound like an American.
If they don’t believe in God, what are they so afraid of that we should remove anything hat has to do with God?
Satan is alive and trying to deceive everyone. Don’t let that happen. He personifies evil, hatred, wickedness, sadness.
Anyone who believes he does not exist is mistaken.
America WAS FOUNDED ON CHRISTIANITY…… it is just that the revisionists have rewritten our history to remove almost all traces of it from the History books! Separation of Church and State comes from Carl Marxx’s. ‘Communist Manifesto’. It is not found anywhere in The Original Constitution. The Constitution states that government should Not inhibit or infringe upon the ‘free exercise of religion’. Those who do not know their history are doomed to repeat it. “Wherefore, this land (America) is consecrated unto Him (Jeses Christ) whom He shall bring. And if it so be that they shall serve Him (Jesus Christ) according to the commandments which He hath given it shall be a land of Liberty unto them; wherefore they shall never be brought down into captivity ; if so, it shall be because of iniquity; for if iniquity shall abound cursed shall be the land for their sakes, but unto the righteous it shall be blessed forever. (Book of Mormon 3Nephi 1:7). “If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then I will hear from Heaven, and will forgive their sins, and will heal their land.” (Bible Old Testament, 2 Chronicles 7:14) this country is not a Democracy. It is a Republic! Benjamin Franklin said a Rebublic only works for a moral and righteous people. A Democracy easily turns into a Mobocracy. A ‘Republic’ founded under The original Constitution protects the right of the ‘individual’. Alexis De Tocqueville, a French political leader and historian (1805 – 1848) visited America to see for himself why America was succeeding and found religion was alive in the land and the churches were packed on the Sabboth. He made this statement about America, “America is great because she is good, should she cease to be good, she will cease to be great.”
Is god willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him god?
(Epicurus)
God honors each of us enough to allow us to make the choice between Good or evil. Chose today whom you will serve. God is not a dictator but a loving and caring being!
Satan, evil, is a liar and deceiver that promises freedom and pleasure, but ultimately enslaves and destroys.
Hate satan not the deceived of satan. The God haters are deceived and are enslaved to evil, Love them and have compassion on them in their ignorance.
People better start standing up against these Atheists!!!!!!! Very sad situation. I agree with one of the comments, and that is, ship them all out, and let them start their own little communities!!!!!!!
To Cheryl Thomas:
The town has been choosing to to this display for 15 years and no one in the town has complained. just a bunch of out side lawyers. It appears to me that outside organizations that have nothing to do with the town,or, it’s people are trying force their faith on the town. Not the other way around.
Why Cheryl Thomas, are you trying to force your faith on the town, which has been doing this for 15 yrs. It’s not like it’s something new to the town. Why don’t you and your ilk stop trying to force everyone to comply with your version of reality?
A modest proposal. Divide the park in two. Half with the decorations and half with nothing. Everybody can be happy. Or not as the case may be.
Or give, I mean sell the others a piece of land and let them build their own park.
This isn’t a religious issue,it’s a political issue. If a conservative doesn’t believe in God,he just doesn’t go to church. But if a liberal doesn’t believe in God,he want anyone else to mention any thing about God or religion in public. If a conservative doesn’t celebrate Christmas,he just doesn’t buy a Christmas tree. If a liberal doesn’t celebrate Christmas,he doesn’t want see or hear anything about Christmas at all. By the way,there isn’t a war against Christmas,it’s a war against American culture. Merry Christmas to all.
HOW does one post comments too quickly ??????????? Or is it just that you don’t like the post & this is a way of blocking it??
Lord have mercy on all those agents of satan and his demonic hosts.
jdp…Atheist never have any joy, no not in America because we are a founded Christian nation, every thing they see must be
unseen that is why they wear hoodies to cover up. At what age did they become Atheist? not at 6 or 7 They received gifts from some one who loved them. Christmas time is for the love of Christ because he loved the world to sacrifice himself for all mankind.
get to know him sooner than later because he is returning and then if you have aught with him, you can address it directly to him.
what are those atheist goin to do when they die and thy are standing in front of god i really would not what to be them thy aint going to be able to denie jesus christ then i would play music on a p.a so the whole town could hear it
Is god willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him god?
(Epicurus)
I feel so sorry for you. You will never know true joy, unless you are willing to open your mind and earnestly seek to know the truth. The British educator (and atheist) C.S. Lewis sounded much like you sound. He was debating a friend (on this same subject) and was challenged to the point that he was determined to prove there is no God. In his extensive research, he discovered God. He was not so hard-headed that he would not admit The Truth. Please investigate the writings of C.S. Lewis. —
The atheist group should be the target of the good people of colins mississippi now. Of 2500 people in this truely good ole southern God fearing town there should be some that are willing to stand up for God and his son.maby collins should consider bankruptsey then what could the atheist do?
If you Atheists don’t like Christmas, no one is forcing you to stay here. This country has prospered by the Christian values that our founding fathers put in place in the Constitution of these United States. You have no authority to tell us that we are not able to practice our Constitutional religious beliefs as this was established long before you were born. We didn’t ask you to come here or to believe in our Christian ways, If you do not like it, the next plane or boat.can escort you out of this country at any time, we will not stop you. DON’T TELL US WE ARE NOT ABLE TO CELEBRATE OUR CHRISTMAS BELIEF!!!!
I read all the comments on my computer. It is embarrassing for the United States to have such a collection of stupid people who want to shove Christianity down everyone’s throat. Nobody wants to interfere with their Christian beliefs. They just cannot do it in a public park. Non-Christians are offended by other people trying to shove Christianity down their throat. Their are many people who just do not believe in unemployed Jewish carpenters being the son of god (small “g”) If you want to practice religion, do it in a place that will not offend others who do not believe in your lies, nonsense, fantasies, delusions, absurdities, and blind faith.
Be kind to Atheists. Most of them don’t know very much about science or religion. And so many of them are TALKERS NOT DO-ERS.
I am a retired scientist and an active Christian.
FFRF….They are really the FREEDOM FROM “CONSTITUTIONAL” RESPONSIBLITY FOUNDATION….It is their way or NO WAY…..
Two questions: Do you enjoy inalienable rights? Can you name the authority granting those rights?
…All men are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights…. You do not get the rights without recognizing the authority granting those rights.
God, the “Hound of Heaven” cannot be escaped. God is the answer to the question “Why is there something and not nothing?” God encompasses the whole universe(s)….there can be nothing that is not part of God. Everything we experience is God. God cannot be just a being among other beings….that would make God too small. God is closer to us than we are to ourselves. We can separate ourselves from God (free will) and from each other, but that doesn’t mean we are not all still part of God. God is the source of all that is personal, the source of all awareness including dreams. God is the source of all that is. That is just a definition of “God”. While man creates God in his own image, making him male and giving him whiskers, God encompasses all that man has discovered on earth and in the heavens, going back to the “big bang” if that theory describes our cosmic reality. Use a different name for God if you like, but don’t reduce God to a humanesque creature or a “fairy tale”.
The Freedom From Religion gang is looking to force their atheism on the rest of us.
It may be time for towns to reconsider how they operate. Rather than citizens and civic groups giving money to public parks maybe they should donate toward land which a civic board, not the government would control. For example, the churches in a town might come together and form a foundation which would operate a local park. This would achieve much of the same effect without involving the government. Reducing the amount of land owned by the government would also begin a trend of reducing the size of government.
Now that is a great idea.
I would rather believe in God and find that there is none than to not believe and find out that there is.
Hey, why can’t we all just respect each other’s ways of thinking and leave it at that ? This “forcing” of ones beliefs on other’s is not the American Way. We are supposed to have freedom of religion, this includes freedom from religion if one so chooses, but that does not give anyone the right to stop anyone from believing the way they want to believe. Respect, and don’t force, ok ?
Now that is a great idea.
Yes! You said it very eloquently. I agree!
who is the majority? Tell the minority, “you don’t have to have anything to do with Christmas ,this is OuR holiday, not yours, Leave if you don’t like it. But for now, shut the hell up and we won;t bother you.”
So atheists believe nothing created everything? Or do they believe that after the so called, ‘Big Bang’, that rocks created everything? The real fairy tale is, just given enough time, nothing will turn into a ‘prince’.
Why dont we demand they stop being athiest. This is a disgrace.
Because God gave us a free will and even God won’t make us love him, that is our chose.
Everyone has a right to their beliefs.
Non-believers, atheists and other pagans, are similar to believers. They have faith in no God while believers have faith in God. We will all find out who is correct after we reach the other side. Until then it is all opinion. Believers have the bible which in part is the history of God directly intervening in history. In addition there are miracles and creation itself that are mysteries. Plus the parables in the bible give accurate insights into human nature. On the side of the naysayers there are the following ideas to support their faith in no God. 1.Opinion. 2. More opinion. .
My brothers and sisters in Christ. Titus 3:9 says ” do not argue the law for it is unprofitable and vain.”
What has darkness in common with light? They cannot see for they are blind. We need to pray for our enemy’s and love them as Jesus Christ loved the church. Yes, I know that is hard when we see stuff written against our Lord. Jesus told us ” when they come against you they are really coming against me”
We can not see oxygen but does that mean it does not exist.
In Proverbs it is written ” a man that says there is no God is a fool”
You Sir that needs to correct everyone’s spelling, should take the time to find out who created you before you were in your mothers womb.
I pray for you that don’t believe, that Gods Love and Grace guide you through life. God Bless you all
There are a few things I would like to correct about the article.
1. Nobody is asking anyone to stop celebrating Christmas. They are asking that a government entity and its resources remain neutral to better serve all of the people, instead of just those of a certain faith.
2. The park being unwelcoming is not the issue at hand. The preferential treatment of one faith system over others (or lack thereof), is.
3. Alternatives to the destruction of the decorations would be re-purposing them with an all-encompassing display or donating them to a local church.
4. The Satanic statue shows the importance of the Separation of Church and State found within the context of the Establishment Clause of the Second Amendment. There are only two ways for the government to remain neutral towards religion. They can support all religions equally or none at all. If the park remains open to Christian displays, it invites the equal access of other religious groups. I am sure that many of you would rather not see that.
Correction: First Amendment. I was typing fast and was engaged in a previous discussion, where I was firmly supporting our Second Amendment right to bear arms.
Atheists have a right to their religion or no religion. Having said that, other people in the same town has a right to their religious beliefs as well. No, the Atheists cannot tell other people in the town that they cannot celebrate Christmas. That is so unconstitutional to even try to do this.
This bothers me. We should be more tolerant of each other. I have atheist friends who are best people I’ve met! I have Christian friends who aren’t so great! It’s in you or it’s not to be kind and understanding.. Not about what faith you follow I live about 3 minutes from Collins . Id hate to see the lights taken down. We do a “polar express ” trip every year. Kids get ready to go to bed and suddenly find a ticket under their pillow.they run to the door and dads in the truck with hot coco .. They go with blankets and pjs and go see the lights- sometime in December.. They never know when.
Now having sided with wanting these lights to stay I must express another concern. No atheist group would advocate for a statue of satan anywhere. Atheists are NOT following the devil they don’t believe in him either!! Atheists don’t believe in anything spiritual like that.. So that is either false ,.. It this isn’t an atheist group..
My family is catholic,. We have Jewish roots,.. We celebrate Christmas and Hanukkah. I’d love these lights not to stop,.. But grow! Add Hanukkah lights and something for Muslims too!! We don’t want someone taking our lights,.. So let’s include everyone!!
Love yall
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