There’s outrage among citizens of Phoenix after it was announced that members of a satanic group will give the opening ‘prayer’ at an upcoming city council meeting.
Attorney Brad Holm says the government cannot exclude a religion – even satanists – from hosting religious ceremonies ahead of meetings.
It appears Mayor Greg Stanton agrees. His office released a statement that says, though Stanton disagrees with the religious message, “the Constitution demands equal treatment under the law” for satanists.
Councilman Jim Waring doesn’t see it that way. He told the Arizona Republic the city should have given a firm “no” to the group, which submitted their request in December to give the prayer, and should have been prepared to stand up to them in court.
“Frankly, I don’t know that we should be capitulating so readily to this,” Waring said.
Despite the objections of Waring and other council members, the satanists are scheduled to perform the public invocation on Feb. 17.
Satanic temple leader Stu de Haan confirmed the group’s plan, and said his group worships the biblical Satan as a metaphor for rebellion against tyranny.
The Associated Press contributed to this article.
PHOENIX SUMMERS ARE GOING TO GET A LOT HOTTER
Satanists are a danger to the saftey of mankind, and therefore should be outlawed.
The members of the council do not have to have anyone give a prayer.. and they can certainly stand for Christ by leaving the building before these sick scumbags invite the devil in. Then they can admonish their silence there after unless they wish to be put on a list to adress topics on the agenda during public comment time. Should they not adhere to these rules they can be ordered out, and physically removed and arrested if they do not leave on their own. .
These people are WRONG!! There is nothing in the Constitution to give equal treatment to different religions…in fact….our Constitution is only for Judea Christian Beliefs….Period….Those that allow this to happen are not just enemies of the people but of only ONE TRUE GOD THROUGH JESUS CHRIST……People need to boycott this council meeting….
Amen Greg, I think they should have A Constitutional Lawyer check into this not that anyone else could not, but that the Constitutional Lawyer is an expert. Yes Greg, This Country was based on Judea Christian values. If Mr. Hann wants to meet with people let him meet with his people, these people are just trying to make a public statement, so they can say “I DID IT ” !
These SICKO people intend to DESTROY AMERICA and EVERYTHING GOOD about it-If they were in IRAN- they would be BEHEADED–
They need to stop giving in to all these demonic groups, all they are doing is helping to destroy this nation and bringing God’s wrath on this nation. What is wrong with you people? Devil worship is not a religion it is an Ocult, you will have to answer to God for your actions. For God sake people wake up before it is to late, you are falling into the devil’s plan.
We get people like this and people who are atheist, and we allow them to dictate when, who and where we can pray or honor our faith and they do as they please…pathetic!
You are giving them what they want, recognition. Pretend they are not there and fall over them.
The fallacy here is “what defines a religion”? We as a society in the 21st century do not have an acceptable authority for that definition. File the legal paper work with the federal government, the IRS, and now you are a religion with a 501C tax free status. When the constitution was written, the writers had to deal with the failures in England and the possibilities of the infusion of many other attitudes. In the sixteen hundreds and the early seventeen hundreds witches and warlocks, Satanists, were burned alive; today we protect them under nondiscrimination clauses, which is what is happening here. The writers of the Constitution’s problem was to not generate a religious state and at the same time prevent discrimination of other attitudes and opinions. Now corrupt judges and politicians are twisting the definition of the law to suit their agenda.
First, WHY do meetings have to begin with a prayer if government is
supposed to be “non-religious” by law?
Second, I wonder if ALL religions (including Judaism) have ever
started a meeting of this council?
The First Amendment protects everybody’s right to pray….even government councilmen. What the Founders did not want was another government sponsored religion like the Church of England in Great Britain.
what defines religion? lets make it simpler. What is the definition of Satan-the chief evil spirit; the great adversary of humanity. In my opinion they shouldn’t even be viewed as a religion but a threat to government and civilians.
satanist were executed as this country was established and should be today
Well if this group is allowed to offer their satanic prayer then directly right after theirs should be a Christian group to follow with their prayer as well it is their right also then to offer their invocation prior to this meeting!!
I myself would boycott the meeting as Dayan is not my belief and I would attend as a late comer so as not to be made to listen to their BS! We have that right as well!!
Yeah, that fixes everything…unless or course you’re a Rastafarian, Catholic, Jew, Hindi, Muslim, Pastafarian, Athiest, or member of any one of the other 300-odd religions of the world.
Catholics are Christian, in fact the original Christians
Well if this group is allowed to offer their satanic prayer then directly right after theirs should be a Christian group to follow with their prayer as well it is their right also then to offer their invocation prior to this meeting!!
I myself would boycott the meeting as Dayan is not my belief and I would attend as a late comer so as not to be made to listen to their BS! We have that right as well!!
Well if this group is allowed to offer their satanic prayer then directly right after theirs should be a Christian group to follow with their prayer as well it is their right also then to offer their invocation prior to this meeting!!
I myself would boycott the meeting as Dayan is not my belief and I would attend as a late comer so as not to be made to listen to their BS! We have that right as well!!
“the Constitution demands equal treatment under the law” for Satanist”
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The Constitution demands no such thing. What it says is the govt cannot establish a state religion. Which surely means they cannot tax the citizens and give to the lead devil or ayatollah in charge or any bishop or rabbi and support a religion. The whole concept of separation clause is a fabrication and a twisting of the intent of the Constitution. By lawyers of course. It is the same thing with the requirement that the president be native born. Which is clearly the same thing as anchor babies who if born on our soil become citizens, In other words the president needs to be an anchor baby. There are ways to amend the Constitution so if enough people wanted to establish sharia law and pay taxes to support the local mosque and make rulings that favor muslims or allow non-anchor babies to be president then they should change the Constitution. And not use a bunch of legal weasel words to work around what is written in the Constitution. IMO the pardoning of Nixon by Ford was illegal because the Constitution says the prez does have the power to pardon. Except in cases of impeachment however. Pretty clever of our founders. This will prevent the president from doing impeachable things, such as expanding their terms or powers by writing EO upon EO giving themselves additional power. probably at the expense of Congress, getting impeached and then pardoning themselves or having their buddy, the Veep, pardoning them if the veep becomes the prez. Do any lawyers in DC know how to read? Or are they the product of public schools in America?
You have hit the nail on the head. Public schools do not educate, and the products of this travesty are now the sheeple of our nation. Just think If Jefferson or Adams were alive today!! what would they say about the federal reserve The Conststution congress shall make no money except silver or gold” or the seventeenth amendment that removes the power of the state legislatures to elect senators thus giving it to the billionaires, or the FCC giving a virtual monopoly power of the airwaves to six corporations, Or the FBI a federal police Controlled by one presidential political appointee that is not answerable to congress, and in fact can investigate them, and has in fact trumped up charges against individual maverick Congressmen
Congress today is controlled in a straight jacket with 2 supposedly competing political PARTIES THAT IN FACT ARE BOTH TIGHTLY CONTROLLED BY THE CENTRAL FINANCIAL INTERESTS. What would they think that there are no weekly community meetings to decide political questions, No committees of correspondence?? what would they think of the fact that the majority of the people in this nation have no idea that democracy MEANS their OWN direct continuous participation in government??
WE are all like sheep who have lost their way, looking for shepards and mistaking the political wolves for them
Dear People of Phoenix!
OK! Spiritual Warfare is on the move! There must be Christians in Phoenix who know how to quietly wage silent scriptural warfare at a time like this. First, get all of you who can go prior several hours before that meeting. March quietly around the building praying to Jesus and our Heavenly Father to send warring Angels and Michael to stand against the demonic forces that will be there mocking Christians. Ask our precious Lord to send confusion into those satanist present. If you have Annointing Oil, Have one of your pastors, if there is one, or one of the men to annoint parts of the building with the sign of the cross and escpecially the front door leading into the council room. I would advise to not have many go to raise up problems and you could have a large group at one of the churches praying. See is there someone in City Hall who would allow you to annoing the meeting room and pray. Annoint the podium and each seat of a councilman or woman with the sign of the cross. Now if two or three of you will, go to the meeting with a fairly decent size cross displayed on your neck. Now not a big gross cross to draw attention but one that can be seen. Sit quietly praying for God to intervene and confuse the satanist. Berean Study Bible
The weapons of our warfare are not the weapons of the world. Instead, they have divine power to demolish strongholds. 2nd Corinthians 10:4 . Do not make a mad big scene! you see what the scripture says. Our weapons of divine from God. So quietly march, annoint, pray and claim the promises of Almighty God. Watch the hand of the Lord move!@
God Bless and I pray for you.
Despite the objections of Waring and other council members, the satanists are scheduled to perform the public invocation on Feb. 17……Prior to the satanist praying, just get up and walk out in protest or just wait out in the hallway until the prayer is over and than enter the room…your so-called mayor should be recalled ASAP.
That is exactly your right to do. They have the right as a religious entity to offer their prayer, which should be abolished for all because it is a government proceding. Millions of American soldiers have given their lives so we can actually have this issue!! My dad used to go balistic when they would show the Vietnam Nam protesters burning the flag. I would have to remind him that he spent years in North Africa and then with Patton so they could burn the flag!!! He would then agree with me. So all you Christians that are in an uproar be thankful Thomas Jefferson wrote his statute of Religious Freedom.
If I was a city council member I would arrive after this opening “prayer” had concluded. No one can point to any thing Satan or his followers have made better. In fact, the group leader’s quote pretty much says this is about nothing more than creating chaos.
This is a horrible decision. It is beyond reasoning that the author of every sin and evil from the beginning of time is allowed a voice in the government. This direct attack against everything Good and Holy can only mean that the Bible Revelation is coming into view and the Judgement of God is about to come upon America. My question is where are the spiritual warriors? We must pray for our Lord Jesus Christ’s intervention to Stop This Nonsense.
The problem with today’s society is we have a Satanist for our President.
Proverbs 6: 16 – 19
There are six things which the Lord hates, seven which are an abomination to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devised wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil, a false witness who breathes out lies, and a man who sows discord among brothers.
This surely describes Obama…is our Phoenix City Council following the same path?
Allow the Satanist to enter the chamber, when they start their prayer, all stand and face away from them and and state, “get thee behind me Satin”.
LOL I love that suggestion!
Glory and honor be to you oh Lord. Please slap these idiots with a dose of common sense! I realize that door knobs have more common sense than these morons!!! Jesus is LORD,,,, PERIOD!!
That wouldn’t happen in Boston, NYC or Chicago.
Was Satanism what the folks who wrote the Constitution included? I doubt it. It was meant for all Christian sects, Jewish, and Catholic. I doubt it included Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, animalistics or any of hundreds of other religions.
America has been very tolerant of other “faiths” that were not physically hostile to those three religions. But now you will have an hostile “faith” that can claim constitutional protection by the new definition.
the problem with your explanation is that it would lead to lawsuits where courts woulds examine which sects are “true Christians” and which are not. You can well imagine the chaos that would result. What the constitution simply says is that congress shall neither establish any religion nor prohibit the free exercise off any religion. Thus they cannot have ” official prayers” and If people wish to pray to whomever they wish, they cannot interfere with this as long as this does not disrupt official business.
If I were a public official on the council i would distribute. this prayer with this preamble.
Good evening people of Phoenix, as your councilmen I realize that many of you are troubled by many things in our modern society including the antics of these people who say they worship Satan. Under our constitution our forefathers in their wisdom did not seek to define who God was, or how we should worship him but merely decreed that people be free to worship as they please and that official government recognize no “official” religion.
But as a private person and a believer in our lord Christ I am as worried as you by the direction that our society has taken and so I am taking this opportunity to distribute this prayer for you to contemplate and if you agree with me to pray with me outside on the threshold of our center of government, I do this because I believe that to lead a public prayer the people who are joining in it should know in advance what it says so they can decide whether to agree and join or decide otherwise.
Our Father we are come here very troubled and with heavy hearts about what is going on in our city today. We know that all things are in your hands yet we also know that If we gather to repent our misdeeds and truly realize that without your will nothing happens, that you will not forsake us. We thus ask your help and guidance in these troubling times we ask to help all people to seek your light in this darkness. We ask that you direct us in ways to help those who are angry understand your will and let go of their bitterness. and come into your light. We ask that you help us with our own shortcomings and feelings of anger and help us to love and care for our neighbors as our family. We ask you to do all this for thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever Amen
I like the Get thee behind my satan…from the Bible. But it was stated by the founders that this Constitution was made for a moral and Godly people. It will NOT work under any other. Find that statement and read it into the minutes of the meeting and you are done..No satan people, no muslims ( they can obey our laws or believe in our Constitution and will NEVER assimilate like all the others have ),…End of story. They can;t love America like the others as they have no belief in GOD, who made satan as a matter of fact. But they do not believe in the one true GOD of Christians and Jews. This country was made for us. Others can live here, but in America they should abide by our beliefs or stand in silence. We would be expected to do the same. I know those other faiths like the ones that worship Buddha that have no problem with that.
And after every church in this town backs their groups. Then begin the campaign to oust out of office the Mayor and his fellow attorney should be run out of town. By all their friends, and neighbors. You go Dorris and let the people of Phoenix be with you.
In America anything is possible.One day they will tell us to stop worshipping God and some group will be asked to enforce it. Frankly American empire is seriously on the decline.
God’s own Country is systematically being reduced to Satan’s throne. The signs are loudly shouting for all to see. From the supreme court to the polical sphere(Trumpmania for example) you will agree that America is being degraded.
Since they are “ANTI-religious”, they should not qualify as a “religion”.
They are a CULT……..therefore, have no place in making logical decisions of any kind, in government
or any public entity. They can stay in their own confines away from Godly people, if they can’t abide
by the laws of the land, as the bible says.
I pray God strikes lightening “very close to them” to them to SHOW HIS POWER and “scares the devil out of them”!!!!
“GOD FORGIVE THEM FOR THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO”…..Most, probably have no idea what they’re dealing with. Satan is not something to mess around with. Many get involved because they’re outcasts in society. They go looking for “anyone” who will give them attention and the Satanists prey on the weak. They’re easily sucked in by these evil satanic magnets to fill the void in their lives. We all need to pray for them….that somehow, someone will come into their lives and tell
them of JESUS LOVE…….and SHOW THEM THAT WE CARE FOR THEM ALSO. It would take a lot of patience because they have been brainwashed into believing that no one cares for them except the Satanists. PRAY FOR THEM!!
I assume the Satanist will be using an Islamic prayer? After all islam seems to be diametrically opposed to the biblical religions The biblical religions is based on love your neighbor. Not to call other infidels, be able to kill your daughter to defned you honor, and to have the duty to engage all others in a holy war, jihad If that isn’t a clear description of Satanism please advise what is?
what’s wrong with the az. council,have they loss their mind.never invite satin in to your presence.HAVE A BACK BONE,AND JUST SAY NO.INVITE JESUS TO COME IN TO YOUR PRESENCE,AND YOU WILL HAVE NO PROBLEMS.PRAY ON THIS.
Satanist = DemonRat. DemonRat =Satanist