Retired Maj. David Grusch testified to a House Oversight subcommittee Wednesday, as part of Congress’s latest foray into the world of unidentified flying objects and — as they’re sometimes called now — unidentified aerial phenomena (UAPs).
During his highly anticipated testimony, Major Grusch dropped a major bombshell.
The U.S. is concealing a longstanding program that retrieves and reverse engineers unidentified flying objects, according to Grusch.
“I was informed in the course of my official duties of a multi-decade UAP crash retrieval and reverse engineering program to which I was denied access,” Grusch said.
The Pentagon has denied his claims. In a statement, Defense Department spokeswoman Sue Gough said investigators have not discovered “any verifiable information to substantiate claims that any programs regarding the possession or reverse-engineering of extraterrestrial materials have existed in the past or exist currently.” The statement did not address UFOs that are not suspected of being extraterrestrial objects.
Grusch said he was asked in 2019 by the head of a government task force on UAPs to identify all highly classified programs relating to the task force’s mission. At the time, Grusch was detailed to the National Reconnaissance Office, the agency that operates U.S. spy satellites.
Both Democrats and Republicans have cited national security to push for more research into UAPs. Politicians on both sides have worried that the sightings reported by Air Force pilots may be tied to U.S. adversaries (although not necessarily tied to little green men).
Rep. Glenn Grothman, R-Wis., chaired the panel’s hearing and joked to a packed audience, “Welcome to the most exciting subcommittee in Congress this week.”
Take a look —
Rep. Glenn Grothman calls Wednesday’s congressional UFO hearing to order.
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Rep. Ocasio-Cortez wants the names and where to look for these CR programs. David Grusch will provide her that information.
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Grusch also reiterated his claim that the U.S. has likely been aware of “non-human” activity since the 1930s. Previously, Grusch had alleged a cover-up going all the way back to Mussolini’s Italy.
Pentagon officials have denied any knowledge of life beyond Earth.
“We have not seen anything, and we’re still very early on, that would lead us to believe that any of the objects that we have seen are of alien origin,” Ronald Moultrie, the undersecretary of defense for intelligence and security, said of the UFO sightings reported since December. “Any unauthorized system in our airspace we deem as a threat to safety.”
Some critics have voiced skepticism about the possibility of a multinational, 90-year cover-up including both allies and adversaries.
Still, even some of the skeptics have shown respect for Grusch’s credentials.
Grusch says he became a government whistleblower after his discovery and has faced retaliation for coming forward. He declined to be more specific about the retaliatory tactics, citing an ongoing investigation.
“It was very brutal and very unfortunate, some of the tactics they used to hurt me both professionally and personally,” he said.
Members of both parties asked Grusch about his study of UFOs and the consequences he faced.
“I take it that you’re arguing what we need is real transparency and reporting systems so we can get some clarity on what’s going on out there,” said Rep. Jamie Raskin, D-Md.
Some lawmakers, echoing Raskin, criticized the Pentagon for not providing more details in a classified briefing or releasing images that could be shown to the public. In previous hearings, Pentagon officials have shown videos.
Take a look at one image previously released —
Former US intelligence official David Grusch claims under oath that aliens exist and that the US government is in possession of UFOs and non-human bodies. pic.twitter.com/oZ6J66dy4F
— Pop Base (@PopBase) July 26, 2023
The Horn editorial team and the Associated Press contributed to this article.